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    Talking Cbock's Stage III C5 A6

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    Got my car back today with the full stage 3 treatment. I'm really happy! Only running on 5lbs of boost right now(Jan 10). I'm going to start linking to this thread as my sig. I'll update with descriptions, pics and vids as I go. I went crazy and did 14" Alcons in the front, S4s in the rear, and a 30psi boost gauge from IMP concepts too. Big thanks to the guys at Exalt for getting her done! It was...fun.

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    At the track, here's a sound clip as I go by at 120mph.


    Her evolution - added 1/28/10

    I got her with just under 60K on the clock. Only one previous owner. I added the tint. Otherwise, this is how she looked when I got her:


    A few weeks later....it started. GIAC 91 file, DVs, OEM RS6 spoiler, KW Variant 2 COs, H-Sways and RS4 Reps:



    That's the way she stayed for about 6 months. But, Stage I wasn't enough. Did a full exhaust and Stoptech Stage 2 brakes next:

    She sounded like this from inside the cabin.
    She sounded like this from outside.

    Other than replacing the RS4 reps with BBS REs a few months later, she stayed like this for the next 10 months.






    I had a BLAST taking her on track with NASA.

    Willow Springs


    Buttonwillow


    Cal Speedway




    Then, on my way to Buttonwillow for another round of fun in October, my clutch went out. Decided to go full stage III at that point.

    Need to work on the pics and vids of the latest setup.

    Here's some pics of the brakes. [Added 2/16/10]

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    FULL SIDE SHOT


    Pic and video of the IMP Boost Gauge [Added 2/21/10]

    In the pic, you can see the LEDs are split into three groups. Green shows boost from 0 - 10. Yellow from 12 - 20. Red 22 to 30.


    In the video, I am just demonstrating the peak hold feature. I'm at 15lbs of boost right now. When I crank it up, I'll try to make a new video that shows the gauge going up thru the range....not all the way to 30lbs tho.
    Click for vid.

    Video from NASA SoCal event at AAA Speedway [Added 10/26/10 - taken way back on 3/14/2010]
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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    shiet baby i wanna drive with you , no homo :)))))))
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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Sounds like a fun car, I love stage 3 power in an A6, kinda the definition of a sleeper
    I don't think I care anymore

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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by Kievskiy View Post
    shiet baby i wanna drive with you , no homo :)))))))
    Some day I'm going to make it up there for Laguna Seca, Thunderhill & Infineon. Of course, you could cruise down to Buttonwillow or Willow Springs. Tracking the A6 is a blast!

    And, uhh...yeah....NO homo!

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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by nothing77 View Post
    Sounds like a fun car, I love stage 3 power in an A6, kinda the definition of a sleeper
    It will be when the boost is cranked up a bit. And, yeah, sleeper status is nice.

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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by cbock View Post
    Some day I'm going to make it up there for Laguna Seca, Thunderhill & Infineon. Of course, you could cruise down to Buttonwillow or Willow Springs. Tracking the A6 is a blast!

    And, uhh...yeah....NO homo!
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    One more stage III A6.. Sweet.. 14" Alcons FTW.. Pics??

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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    If you don't mind me asking what was the cost of the parts alone? I'm sure it was pretty damn high.
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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by cbock View Post
    Got my car back today with the full stage 3 treatment. I'm really happy! Only running on 5lbs of boost right now(Jan 10). I'm going to start linking to this thread as my sig. I'll update with descriptions, pics and vids as I go. I went crazy and did 14" Alcons in the front, S4s in the rear, and a 30psi boost gauge from IMP concepts too. Big thanks to the guys at Exalt for getting her done! It was...fun.

    2002 A6 2.7T 6MT Stage III

    AWE K04 Kit w/fueling
    Exalt 3" DPs
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    034 Engine & Tranny Mounts
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    RS4 Clutch & AWE LWFW
    Stasis Alcon 14" in the front
    S4s in the back
    18x8 BBS RE
    30 psi boost gauge with peak hold by IMP Concepts
    Very Nice! Congrats.

    Take it VERY VERY easy on the RS4 clutch for a good 1200 miles. I mean it.

    I broke mine in, drove it very carefully for a good 900 miles. Once, I got 1,600 miles I started to do some launches (3 tops, over a couple weeks time) and after that it started to slip big time. Not install error. Driver error! O well. I had fun!

    Now, I have about 2,300 or so on the clutch. All seems fine now. No slips. It must have re-seated. I have been taking it real easy and driving like an old lady coming home from church. I don't plan on doing any launches any time soon.

    Enjoy the new power! A6 is the ultimate sleeper.
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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankA6 View Post
    Awesome man! now get out to Waterfest this year
    Thanks Frank. Just a little too far of drive for me.

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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by VJ's A6 View Post
    One more stage III A6.. Sweet.. 14" Alcons FTW.. Pics??
    Pics will come soon.

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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by Stone825 View Post
    If you don't mind me asking what was the cost of the parts alone? I'm sure it was pretty damn high.
    I was already Stage II+. So, for the latest round, I bought the following:
    AWE K04 Kit w/fueling
    RS4 clutch & AWE LWFW
    Alcon 14" & S4 Rears
    3" DP
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    A few of those were full price, a few were good deals and the rest were great deals. Not going to go into details. But, you can look up the prices and subtract a little. In the end, it was "pretty damn high". BUT, you gotta pay to play.

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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by Coors View Post
    Very Nice! Congrats.

    Take it VERY VERY easy on the RS4 clutch for a good 1200 miles. I mean it.

    I broke mine in, drove it very carefully for a good 900 miles. Once, I got 1,600 miles I started to do some launches (3 tops, over a couple weeks time) and after that it started to slip big time. Not install error. Driver error! O well. I had fun!

    Now, I have about 2,300 or so on the clutch. All seems fine now. No slips. It must have re-seated. I have been taking it real easy and driving like an old lady coming home from church. I don't plan on doing any launches any time soon.

    Enjoy the new power! A6 is the ultimate sleeper.
    The install was going on during your "clutch" thread. Had me a little concerned. However, I haven't had any problems at all yet. I've put about 300 miles on it so far. At 5lbs of boost, it's easy to keep it smooth. But, when bedding my brakes, I got on her a little. It's been just fine. Crossing fingers that nothing happens like the stuff you had to go thru. Also, I'm not too big into launching. It will get it's abuse on the track (road courses).

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    congrats cbock.. damn another stage 3 in socal... wonder when im getting mine... lol....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffp477 View Post
    congrats cbock.. damn another stage 3 in socal... wonder when im getting mine... lol....
    Thanks Jeff. Not a ton of Stage III A6s in SoCal. LOTS of B5 S4s that are Stage III. You'll get your's sooner rather than later!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbock View Post
    Thanks Jeff. Not a ton of Stage III A6s in SoCal. LOTS of B5 S4s that are Stage III. You'll get your's sooner rather than later!
    i know.. i swing by to the euro meet in in oc, there's a bunch of s4's..lol...
    in my area im the only one who got a 2.7t c5 bunch of them is a4, now i got 2 neighbors that has a c5 1 2000 c52.7t but i dont know if his an enthusiast havent talk to him, and a newly moved 2 houses from my house an a6 avant 2.8 so im not sure owner is probably a real family man... but will see

    yeah i wish i can go stage 3... not at this time... baby is on the way...thats my excuse...lol... all my plans on a slow crawl right now... but after that.. all out.. lol..

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    what part of socal are you in?

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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    How do you like your KW's? thats what i run too
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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffp477 View Post
    what part of socal are you in?
    I'm in La Mesa.

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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by chrisbostonusmc View Post
    How do you like your KW's? thats what i run too
    I like them a lot. I like the stance. I have adjusted the ride height a few times. And, the best part for me, since I take it to the track, I like being able to adjust the stiffness. Being able to tweak the settings at the track with an hex key is awesome.

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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    post some pics dammit! lol. sounds like a really fun ride!

    all these threads are making me power-hungry and wanting to go stage 3 and/or meth injection...but im WAY to broke at the moment to do any of that at the moment.
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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by cbock View Post
    I'm in La Mesa.
    hehe thats not that far...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4Ring_Jelly View Post
    post some pics dammit! lol. sounds like a really fun ride!

    all these threads are making me power-hungry and wanting to go stage 3 and/or meth injection...but im WAY to broke at the moment to do any of that at the moment.
    I'll take some pics this weekend. I doubt I'll have a chance during the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffp477 View Post
    hehe thats not that far...
    Nope. You could be down here in less than an hour.

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    hahaha... maybe sometimes... i wanna see your monster ride in action.. any events or gtg you go to...? we should start gathering the c5 here in sd.. lol

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    I haven't made it out to many GTGs. I am a single Dad with 2 young boys. So, it's hard to get the free time.

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    I'm going stage 3- next week I'm thinking. Have a pile of parts, just need to find the time.

    Once I get that broken in, time for fueling. I can't wait, but I'm a little concerned about not buying a stage 3 clutch....
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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by 8520 View Post
    I'm going stage 3- next week I'm thinking. Have a pile of parts, just need to find the time.

    Once I get that broken in, time for fueling. I can't wait, but I'm a little concerned about not buying a stage 3 clutch....
    Just don't go crazy and the clutch will last you a little while... but while you have the motor out it would be a good time to replace the clutch obviously
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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by 8520 View Post
    I'm going stage 3- next week I'm thinking. Have a pile of parts, just need to find the time.

    Once I get that broken in, time for fueling. I can't wait, but I'm a little concerned about not buying a stage 3 clutch....
    are you going with an actual stage 3- tune, or staying with your current tune until you get fueling? reason i ask is i'm going to be doing the same thing at around the end of February.
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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    You're already stage 2. So, what kind of clutch are you running right now? How many miles on it? If you're going to be putting K04s in, the motor will be out. It's the perfect time to replace the clutch.

    My stock clutch went out shortly after I chipped her. I had a Spec stage 2 clutch for about 30k. It went out. Which led to this build. I am very happy with the RS4 clutch so far. Of course, I've only put about 600 miles on it. I don't do a lot of 5K drops. Mine gets abused when I do track weekends with NASA at Buttonwillow, Willow Springs and Auto Club Speedway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbock View Post
    I haven't made it out to many GTGs. I am a single Dad with 2 young boys. So, it's hard to get the free time.
    im about to be a dad... so we'll probably just hang out or chill somewhere with the kids.. lol..

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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by Gumby View Post
    are you going with an actual stage 3- tune, or staying with your current tune until you get fueling? reason i ask is i'm going to be doing the same thing at around the end of February.
    My car is giac chipped already, and I will be putting ko4's and an rs4 clutch in probably next week.

    I will be keep the chip I have until I get fueling and an actual stage 3 chip. How long that will take..... I couldn't tell you.

    For the rest of you asking questions, I'm concerned about running an rs4 clutch with a stage 3 tune as everyone in the b5 s4/rs4 says go vast stage 3 or don't bother....
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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Quote Originally Posted by 8520 View Post

    For the rest of you asking questions, I'm concerned about running an rs4 clutch with a stage 3 tune as everyone in the b5 s4/rs4 says go vast stage 3 or don't bother....
    i may be wrong, but isn't the RS4 clutch just a stock disk with a different pressure plate?

    isn't that kind of defeating the purpose? all your doing is making it engage harder. it's still going to shred the disk, just not as quick.

    but then again i could be totally wrong.
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    Hmmm, not sure. Going to do a bit more research.

    My thought was - I never plan on launching so I wasn't planning on going crazy with the clutch.
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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    if there's one place to go overkill, it's the clutch. it's nice to know that you can beat on it all day and not hurt it. plus, you can mod to your hearts desire without worrying about your clutch disk exploding.

    just look at it as an investment. lets say you buy an RS4 clutch and it can't handle the power and randomly decides to grenade. now your out the cost of the disk, and need to resurface your flywheel. not to mention the cost of install if you get it done at a shop. in the long run it could end up costing you considerably more then to just buy a good clutch in the first place.
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    ^I agree completely w/ Matt! I heard of that happening way too many times. I personally went w/ a clutchmasters stage 4 clutch and lwfw
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    Re: Cbock: Latest Stage III

    Well, the problem with a clutch is, the more stout it is, the less driveable it becomes. I expect the RS4 clutch to hold up to my style of driving AND, still give me a civilized drive when others are in the car with me. There's always trade-offs. Always.

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    OK. Added the story of her evolution up to just before the Stage III build. I need to get out there and take pics and vids of the latest and greatest now!

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    car looks great bro!
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    car looks great bro!
    Thanks man.

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