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    Established Member Two Rings torquewrench's Avatar
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    Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

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    2007 A4 2.0L, with 65K miles. Symptoms started very suddenly - no power. Drove it home after work and daily driving and found the cam follower worn all the way thru, the fuel pump plunger worn down significantly, and the camshaft destroyed. I have no mods, and use the car to commute to work at a grandpa speed limit of 70mph. I do all meticulous main't on my car. Audi of America was no help at all since I am out of warranty.

    Since the camshaft, fuel pump, etc. would cost over $600 in parts, I found a phenomenal deal on an A3 engine with just over 30K miles. ($800 delivered) Plus, I was not happy about having all the metal shavings throughout my engine. There were huge chunks in my oil pan.

    This is my second A4, and my wife has an A3, and I am seriously considering selling them. It took me 8 hours to get the engine out, 12 hours to get it back in...alone, and in the winter cold. All the while cursing Audi every nut and bolt.

    Audi has to start taking better care of their customers and take ownership of their engineering flaws.


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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thank Audi

    thats not nice to hear

    all the more reason for people checking the cam followers, my car has only done 35k but i've only had it for 3k so when i get chance i'll be checking mine
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    I've just replaced the follower in my wife's A3. I'm going to replace the cam followers in both our Audi's it at scheduled intervals as a preventative main't. It's ridiculous.

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thank Audi

    is this a b7 problem only or other years too

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thank Audi

    Given the magnitude of this issue and the widespread engine failures that it has caused or will cause, I think there should be a national recall. I wonder if the transverse (VW) engines are having similar problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gyroscope View Post
    Given the magnitude of this issue and the widespread engine failures that it has caused or will cause, I think there should be a national recall. I wonder if the transverse (VW) engines are having similar problems.
    Audi B7's are not the only ones with this issue. Any 2.0L (transverse or long) is suspect to have this issue depending on the year. Because there are so many 2.0L engines on the road is precisely the reason Audi is so reluctant to do a recall. It would be extremely costly. Since the issue doesn't involve safetly, and since it doesn't happen to all vehicles, they are just hoping the engines make it past 50K miles before failure. I am very familiar with the Automotive manufacturer's shenanigans from first hand experience.

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    We know they are aware of it since they changed the design of the new 2.0 but I agree it's ridiculous that we have to deal with this.
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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    I don't think a recall is going to happen because there is no "fix". It will always happen, even if they replace everyone's cam follower. The real key is to replace the part regularly (every 20k miles maybe?). It really should be added to the regular maintenance schedule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nramsey View Post
    I don't think a recall is going to happen because there is no "fix". It will always happen, even if they replace everyone's cam follower. The real key is to replace the part regularly (every 20k miles maybe?). It really should be added to the regular maintenance schedule.
    They do have an updated camshaft. It is a 2 piece design.

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    Wow, that sucks about the engine, but bravo on the engine find and R/R. Impressive skillz. Not having a helping hand around while R/R an engine is a pain.

    What is happening to some of these that are getting eaten up so early? I just bought a wagon from MI, and he pulled the follower at 73k. There were little swirl marks, but no other signs of wear. That car didn't live a pampered life. Nothing special other than 5k oil changes with M1 0-40 for the past 15k(he's the 2nd owner). Is syntec not good enough for these?

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    Quote Originally Posted by torquewrench View Post
    They do have an updated camshaft. It is a 2 piece design.
    I believe some model years got that new part from the factory, but still have the same problems. I don't think the cam design has anything to do with the cam followers wearing through.
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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    That freaking blows. My follower wasn't as worn so I'm changing out my cam soon. Had a new follower in it and it's running fine now but this situation just blows. I hope H2sport comes out with their fix soon as many are anticipating the release of the roller setup.

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    I had planned on doing this every other oil change, but I may pull mine tomorrow to check on it again. I changed the oil two days ago and it's still on stands waiting for headlight bulbs. (Don't want to have to pull the bumper twice if I can avoid it)
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    This is why my car and my girlfriends are both Warranty/CPO cars. I will never buy a used car without the CPO.
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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    I just had the dealer inspect and replace my cam follower at my last warranty appointment at 98k miles and the follower was mint. It barely looked worn.

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thank Audi

    Quote Originally Posted by torquewrench View Post
    Audi B7's are not the only ones with this issue. Any 2.0L (transverse or long) is suspect to have this issue depending on the year. Because there are so many 2.0L engines on the road is precisely the reason Audi is so reluctant to do a recall. It would be extremely costly. Since the issue doesn't involve safetly, and since it doesn't happen to all vehicles, they are just hoping the engines make it past 50K miles before failure. I am very familiar with the Automotive manufacturer's shenanigans from first hand experience.
    the chain driven 2.0T's have a different cam follower design from the B7 (and transverse BPY engine).
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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    torquewrench,
    did your car have any cold start issues or fuel pump ticking (the tdi drone)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by torquewrench View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by gyroscope View Post
    torquewrench,
    did your car have any cold start issues or fuel pump ticking (the tdi drone)?
    This car always seems to crank a second or two longer than it should. Sometimes up to 4 seconds max. It has always started, but not instantly. I had hoped that it was related to the high pressure fuel pump, but after replacing the engine and HP fuel pump, it starts the exact same way. I'll look into it when the weather gets warmer. My hands should have thawed by then.

    As far as fuel pump ticking, I didn't notice anything excessive. Honestly, it's difficult to hear over the engine's "normal" noises, so who knows. I can say that the new engines sounds the same as the old engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UGwagen View Post
    the chain driven 2.0T's have a different cam follower design from the B7 (and transverse BPY engine).
    Yes, this is true. The newer 2.0T are chain driven and have a different HPFP cam follower design.

    However, just to be clear - whether or not the engine is transverse or longitudinal has nothing to do with if it's the redesigned 2.0T or not. It's the year that will tell you this. The 2.0T engine that is now longitudinal in my A4 was transverse mounted in its previous life. It's the exact same engine for the most part.

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    Quote Originally Posted by chrislane31 View Post
    I just had the dealer inspect and replace my cam follower at my last warranty appointment at 98k miles and the follower was mint. It barely looked worn.
    Either you're really lucky, or I'm unlucky. Either way, good to hear!

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    I went out and pulled the pump this morning. Damn i'm getting good at this; pulled it, checked the follower, coated it and the tip of the plunger in assembly lube, and put it all back + ran the car for a few minutes, all in about an hour and 15 minutes.

    This thread is good at inducing paranoia to say the least. But mine is fine. :) Sorry about your luck torquewrench. For your prowess of working on your car, I am surprised to hear that your A4 was stock. I doubt I could swap the engine in this car just yet.
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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    Man, I can't believe these cam follower issues... I have another thread on this I started a while back here: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=332578

    It's completely shameful that Audi won't own up to what is CLEARLY flawed design/materials, and issue a recall for this. I had the same sort of failure 30 days out of warranty, and they won't even offer any sort of goodwill. I'm without my car for 3 weeks now, and almost $4k out of pocket on the repair...

    +1 rep for the R/R, btw...
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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    Lucky for me the "stealer" replaced my Cam, follower and pump at 49K! Wheeew. But I have 70K now and def gonna check for any new wear. I dont understand why someone (audi or aftermarket) hasn't designed a better follower. Like a "roller follower." That thing would never wear. Maybe I should start work on that and make millions!!!!

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    Quote Originally Posted by flyguy327 View Post
    Lucky for me the "stealer" replaced my Cam, follower and pump at 49K! Wheeew. But I have 70K now and def gonna check for any new wear. I dont understand why someone (audi or aftermarket) hasn't designed a better follower. Like a "roller follower." That thing would never wear. Maybe I should start work on that and make millions!!!!
    I'm pretty sure that that's in the works actually, I'm following a thread on VWvortex (combatting the same issue we've faced): H2sport roller follower possibility

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebman View Post
    This thread is good at inducing paranoia to say the least. But mine is fine. :) Sorry about your luck torquewrench. For your prowess of working on your car, I am surprised to hear that your A4 was stock. I doubt I could swap the engine in this car just yet.

    I am fairly handy with a wrench, but don't tell anyone. Once someone finds out, I get everyone and their brother asking to fix their vehicle. Oh, and I've had a few cars that were very heavily modified (to put it mildly) in the past until I went and got all domesticated with a family.

    Quote Originally Posted by thanatos;
    It's completely shameful that Audi won't own up to what is CLEARLY flawed design/materials, and issue a recall for this. I had the same sort of failure 30 days out of warranty, and they won't even offer any sort of goodwill. I'm without my car for 3 weeks now, and almost $4k out of pocket on the repair...
    I was quoted similar numbers, sorry to hear you had to pay that much.

    Quote Originally Posted by thanatos;
    Lucky for me the "stealer" replaced my Cam, follower and pump at 49K! Wheeew. But I have 70K now and def gonna check for any new wear. I dont understand why someone (audi or aftermarket) hasn't designed a better follower. Like a "roller follower." That thing would never wear. Maybe I should start work on that and make millions!!!!
    I had read somewhere that someone was working on a roller.
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    So much for my millions....

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    It's going to be very difficult to make work. The TFSI has rails built into the hole in the head where the follower goes that the follower slides in. To make a similar system on the older FSI engines, there will have to be headwork done, namely to create slots in the hole for the redesigned follower to be seated in. If that's not done, the follower will just spin.

    And how are they going to compensate for the added thickness to the follower? The plunger length is a very touchy part.

    I'd love for something like this to come out, but I am skeptical to say the least, especially for it to be price-effective. $50 every other oil change is change to me.
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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    yikes!!!!! that is horrible to see!

    i need to check mine soon!

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thank Audi

    Quote Originally Posted by torquewrench View Post

    However, just to be clear - whether or not the engine is transverse or longitudinal has nothing to do with if it's the redesigned 2.0T or not. It's the year that will tell you this. The 2.0T engine that is now longitudinal in my A4 was transverse mounted in its previous life. It's the exact same engine for the most part.
    For the A4's, all B7's 2.0t are the problematic ones.

    B8's have the chain driven 2.0T with VTEC.
    and of course, B6 have the 1.8T.

    For the most part, with the A3, TT, GTI, Jetta & Passat you can go by year, with the exception of 2008. the chain-driven 2.0T's got introduced in mid-late 2008, so you have to go by engine code.

    my 2008 Passat is a early 2008, and I have the BPY motor
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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    Dude, mad props to you for being able to pull the freaking engine in the first place, much less by your self. If only I would ever have that kind of mechanical prowess. Sorry for your troubles indeed, but better you than me! LOL. I won't even change my own oil. I enjoy the peace of mind that comes with the free inspections at my shop. Good luck to you! for your mechanical abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimrobbington View Post
    Dude, mad props to you for being able to pull the freaking engine in the first place, much less by your self. If only I would ever have that kind of mechanical prowess. Sorry for your troubles indeed, but better you than me! LOL. I won't even change my own oil. I enjoy the peace of mind that comes with the free inspections at my shop. Good luck to you! for your mechanical abilities.
    X2. Sorry to hear about your problems but that's a very impressive engine swap.

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thank Audi

    Quote Originally Posted by torquewrench View Post
    Audi B7's are not the only ones with this issue. Any 2.0L (transverse or long) is suspect to have this issue depending on the year. Because there are so many 2.0L engines on the road is precisely the reason Audi is so reluctant to do a recall. It would be extremely costly. Since the issue doesn't involve safetly, and since it doesn't happen to all vehicles, they are just hoping the engines make it past 50K miles before failure. I am very familiar with the Automotive manufacturer's shenanigans from first hand experience.
    i agree that would be audi's position...not a safety issue...but i would definitely disagree with them if i got a power cut while pulling out in front of traffic and got plowed. it's a shame, but i think something really tragic is going to have to happen for audi to step up and take ownership.

    it honestly needs to be a class-action lawsuit. game over.

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    Alright, we have got to have a lawyer on here. Let's get this going!
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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    I'm wondering, how much bad press did BMW have with their HPFP failing in their engines? BMW has basically offered a 10 year warranty on the HPFP now because of this snafu.

    Meanwhile at Audi......

    EDIT: BMW seen a very high rate of return with their new cars and initially believed it was a software problem. Customers kept on coming back with issues and then it was finally diagnosed to be an issue with the HPFP (which is an electric pump btw, not some cam/lobe setup like ours). Audi's is a bit different, short term reliability is maybe pretty good in a broad sense, but long term reliability, if the follower isn't checked at a certain interval which should be the case, then yeah, it'll mess up other things.....
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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanner View Post
    I'm wondering, how much bad press did BMW have with their HPFP failing in their engines? BMW has basically offered a 10 year warranty on the HPFP now because of this snafu.

    Meanwhile at Audi......

    EDIT: BMW seen a very high rate of return with their new cars and initially believed it was a software problem. Customers kept on coming back with issues and then it was finally diagnosed to be an issue with the HPFP (which is an electric pump btw, not some cam/lobe setup like ours). Audi's is a bit different, short term reliability is maybe pretty good in a broad sense, but long term reliability, if the follower isn't checked at a certain interval which should be the case, then yeah, it'll mess up other things.....
    another example of audi customer service
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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    Though if we had the numbers, I'm willing to bet that BMW had a lot of people coming back with HPFP issues on earlier in their ownership (which was the case actually), and isn't quite the same as Audi's since the problem appears to creep up near the end of the warranty or past warranty. So it's not quite the same scenario.

    The HPFP that BMW had were actual problems with the pump itself, right from the get-go. The pump itself is on it's third revision, plus it's a design that is at least a few years newer than Audi's HPFP which is mechanical base vs electrical.

    One thing for sure, BMW owned up to the issue at the beginning after a period of time and covering the HPFP with a 10 year warranty. Plus I don't know if the issues with the earlier pumps were related to fuel with ethanol in it or not.
    Mike

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    IMO Audi strapped it on and is going to town on our asses! I'm so angry over this problem b/c this just means my B7 and I will not have the long relationship I once thought we'd have.

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zebman View Post
    It's going to be very difficult to make work. The TFSI has rails built into the hole in the head where the follower goes that the follower slides in. To make a similar system on the older FSI engines, there will have to be headwork done, namely to create slots in the hole for the redesigned follower to be seated in. If that's not done, the follower will just spin.

    And how are they going to compensate for the added thickness to the follower? The plunger length is a very touchy part.

    I'd love for something like this to come out, but I am skeptical to say the least, especially for it to be price-effective. $50 every other oil change is change to me.
    Oddly enough I can report that H2Sport has completed testing on this.... and have some info which addresses some of these questions


    ^^Upgraded follower and HPFP mount



    ^^Revised cam profile and end cover

    I'm posting this second hand from the vwvortex thread I'd posted earlier but here's the gist:

    Kit contains roller cam follower, HPFP bracket, revised cam profile for HPFP lobe, and modified end cover. Seems like they've done their homework, they made the new follower larger in diameter (hence the new bracket requirement) and the cam profile is revised to 'achieve the right fuel pressure at the right time. Revising the cam profile is necessary because the lift of a roller follower versus a flat face follower isn't the same. Simply put you canít just swap a flat face follower for a roller follower and get the same lift. You have to revise the cam profile too. To the casual eye the new profile may look like the old, but when view side-by-side the difference is obvious.'

    The complete kit is supposed to come in around $400, though unfortunately because these particular parts are dealer source only, they decided the best /most cost effective way will be for customers to send in their intake cam and end cover to which they would will install the revised cam profile and modify the end cover Ė with same day turn around.

    There's a core exchange option as well, but again due to price of original parts and dealer only availability, the core charge is set at $1000.

    I'm following the thread pretty closely, will bring back any more I hear. Availability for sure isn't certain yet from the sounds of it, but they are through testing. For me it's too late (and too new, honestly) though I hope to get my car back from the dealer in 3-4 days after this infuriating issue is fixed. Pray I don't have any fragments floating around my head or block...

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    Re: Cam Follower Strikes Again...thanks Audi!

    Nice. $400 though... which is probably about six cam follower changes including the labour :)
    Mike

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