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    Tried getting the software going today. I kept getting error messages. I tried to update the firmaware of the loader, no luck. I did a force upgrade and the software says it has updated. However, when I try to test the cable it just gets hung up on the checking firmware screen.

    Also, the thing wouldnt read my ECU. It just kept giving me random error messages. I was really trying to have this thing running this weekend, but with this glitch I am yet agian at the mercy of someone far away and the not so right now emailing back and forth.

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    try pming Lou_b5 or a4-drvr.. i think they are both using Maestro as well...
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    You know my number... give me a call and I'll see if I can help. I've had to do some troubleshooting myself with the software, and may have your answer!
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    I emailed Chris and he gave me a few suggestions to try. Whne I gte off at 4:30ish (pst) I will go straight home grab the laptop, and get to work. If I cant get the thing to work, I will most definately hit you up. I really would like to send Chris my file by the morning so I can get my new file and start the break in this weekend.

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    Got the software to work. I guess it needed some time to marinate. I just went to the car plugged it up and voila, it worked like it shoulda yesterday.



    I am also getting the last parts in. Since I was unsure about reusing the stock oil cooler I ordered an adapter from 034 that will allow me to go external.
    http://www.034motorsport.com/product...ducts_id=19652



    I am going to just loop tthe lines on the cooler until I feel confortable plumbing in the cooler. I dont wanna get any trash in there from startup and the first few miles.

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    smart move going external. I don't like my oil temps with the stock cooler. I may convert in the future.

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    Couple days later and still no tune. I hope they get it to me tomorrow so I can get this car on the road this weekend.


    On a side note, I have been palying with my wiring harness. I tried to get some pictures of it, I ran the harness quite a bit differently. I also rerouted the fule lines so they didnt cross over through the engine bay. All of this because intially I wanted to relocate all the harness that was stretched to the passengers side of the engine bay since I am going to switch all that stuff off in Maestro anyhow.

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    This will be the before pic I guess.

    I ran the fuel lines straight up and into the grommet that the ac lines run into going to the rain tray/battery area.
    The leftover harness comes out through a grommet behind the intake manifold now. I think I will be able to reuse the stock one from the ECU area.
    The fuel lines pop out in a grommet in the same area.
    The lines that connect that cluster of colorful connecectors bolted to the firewall has bee moved to the battery.

    I still have a few things to clean up. I think I also want to use some sort of custom coolant tank, and I am considering relocating the power steering fluid resovoir to the battery tray, and relocate the battery to the trunk. Still need some sort of looming to clean up the wires, and still need to get the resistors onto the unused plugs. yay.......

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    I don't know why people keep saying they need resistors. I don't have any and I'm running fine. What's up wit dat?

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    you getting full adaptation, no cel's and have full readiness? Thats my main concern. I need to go through emissions like months ago, so I dont wanna be riding dirty for too long trying to get this thing figured out. You just have everything unplugged and switched off via Maestro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedWorksAuto View Post
    you getting full adaptation, no cel's and have full readiness? Thats my main concern. I need to go through emissions like months ago, so I dont wanna be riding dirty for too long trying to get this thing figured out. You just have everything unplugged and switched off via Maestro?
    No cel because the thing won't light up on my cluster mismatch with the engine harness. The only code I get is for not having n75 plugged in. Dave left to Maryland with it. All other ones are turned off in maestro. vvt, n75, sai, evap, blah blah blah

    emissions is a different story. Since I don't have that here I'm of no help. What is "readiness" and "adaptation"?
    All I know is that the car starts perfectly each and every time with a smooth idle.

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    Adaptation I think has to do with the computer compensating in the fuel trims. You can see your adaptaions via vagcom. I also think when you are logging in Maestro you are watching the adpataions. Its how much the ecm is adding or removing to bring the fueling in spec. I think.....

    Readiness is what the emissions guy is going to be looking for when he plugs into my obd port. It also can be seen in Vagcom, I dont know about Maestro though, but more than likely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedWorksAuto View Post
    you getting full adaptation, no cel's and have full readiness? Thats my main concern. I need to go through emissions like months ago, so I dont wanna be riding dirty for too long trying to get this thing figured out. You just have everything unplugged and switched off via Maestro?
    That sucks. We dont have to do emissions testing over on this side of the state.
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    "Paint the exhaust and intake with Ceramic paint (heat repellent), thus increasing the exhaust velocity, thus less striction = more Power"

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    Well, she runs. Couldnt not get vids or nothing since my phone took a crap on me. After a little while of fighting it it, I gave it a break went and did some other things came back, and she fired right on up. Took a while to get it to stay running after being in motion. It finally got to the point where it will stay running.

    I now need to deal with various oil leaks, get some new plugs, and get some tabs. It really started to bog down, But I think that has to do with the fact tha it was getting hot, and needs new plugs. I did the peg the boost gauge routine like all fresh new builds do.

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    Well done! Clean up time!

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    Apparently I had a valve stick.......Needeless to say the head is off and at Nortthwest again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedWorksAuto View Post
    Apparently I had a valve stick.......Needeless to say the head is off and at Nortthwest again.
    Did it contact a piston? OR was is just not seating fully? And if you don't mind me asking... how does a valve get "stuck"... Machine shop screw up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedWorksAuto View Post
    Apparently I had a valve stick.......Needeless to say the head is off and at Nortthwest again.
    I have some extra stock exhaust valves if you need any. Free.

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    1995 S6 Avant, RS2'd, RS2 6spd, 034 high output coils, 2Bennett Brembo brakes and coilover suspension, Stromung Exhaust, Euro bumpers/headlights, stubby mirror, etc, etc. Loves the snow.

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    The valvethat stuck was one of the intake vales in cylinder number 2. I think it got stuck open, smacked the piston a few times, got bent over ever so slightly and started to work on the exhaust valve. The timing was dead nutz. I was hoping tit was a blown head gasket, until I remembered hearing metalic tapping sounds as I tried to turn it over. It had just started to happen, I pulled the plugs did a compression check, and realized #2 was dead.

    There wasnt ANY visible signs of contact on the piston, but there is no other way to bend the valve that I can think of. Timing was money, and if it wasnt, I had enought timing issure to know it would ben the exhaust valves, and the outer intake valve.

    When I dropped off the head he said that it was overheated. I dont know how, but I guess anythings possible. I am hoping the exhaust valve, since it is inconnel, is ok. I dont wanna order a whole new set of them bitches just for one. Just a bent intake valve, R and R, return head and have it back together for the weekend. I hope

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    Quote Originally Posted by nunya View Post
    I have some extra stock exhaust valves if you need any. Free.

    --dillon
    You got a inconnel exhaust?

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    I got some supertech single keeper exhausts if you need them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clint@R.A.I. View Post
    I got some supertech single keeper exhausts if you need them.
    I am running the triple grove ones, but how much you want for them?

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    Single moe betta. Do it.

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    Damn man that sucks, I really wonder what happened. Did it somehow have some oil starvation causing the lifter to freeze up in there? Good luck man I can't wait to see this thing all finished up.
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    SO, the news is......my head is warped ~.020". Good news is I will have a freshly built head by the beginning of the week to break again by the weekend since apparently I got money to blow.

    I have a few changes that I want to try, including another turbo. Gonna be pretty hectic getting all of this together for the weekend. I really want to see what the fuss is about this turbo on other car forums I've wandered into.

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    [QUOTE=SpeedWorksAuto;5163733]Adaptation I think has to do with the computer compensating in the fuel trims. You can see your adaptaions via vagcom. I also think when you are logging in Maestro you are watching the adpataions. Its how much the ecm is adding or removing to bring the fueling in spec. I think.....[quote/]

    Yes you are correct. Adaption is the process of the computer actually learning what it is supposed to do for fueling for a given throttle position/load.

    It's a nice feature to have since it will help build maps vs doing it all by hand. Problem is it only does safe maps. In other words for full on power/trim you will still have to adjust the fuel/boost/timing map if you are looking for the max power.

    But again a good starting point. And if you drive like your hairs on fire all the time it will learn that as well. :)

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    precision 5857?

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    no sir....Its a Holset.

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    Please say its an HX40 7 blade

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    nope....HE351ve

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    I got a few more pieces of my puzzle in today:

    About 20ft. of 2 gauge read, and black battery cable. Relocating to the trunk.



    A cooler for the oil:


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    And........my turbo

    Holset HE351VGT



    7 blade compressor


    Vbanded center section


    Extro huge turbone housing for the VGT


    Vbanded outlet

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    Wheel measurements
    Turbine
    EX 2.357
    IND 2.755

    Compressor
    EX 3.38
    IND 2.37
    Compressor is as close as I can measure since its a 7 bladed wheel. Measurements similar to the large 6bladed HX40.

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    and a vid of a DSM on the dyno......listen to the VGT open up.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgGe1BOZl0I

    and a VGT mechanisim.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9bi3...eature=related

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    That thing sounds nuts lol
    B7 A4.... 394awhp

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    you are going to use a Trans oil cooler for engine oil cooler??

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    whats the difference? a cooler is a cooler.

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    cool. I've been doing research on this thing forever. There is a company that makes an adapter from T3 to whatever the Holset flange is.

    You going to weld on an actuator to control the VGT?

    That thing is still pretty big, I would expect boost to come in the mid to late 4s, but should make some awesome power

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    If boost comes in in the mid to late 4k range, imma drive this bitch of a cliff. The whole reason for this build is to make a decent horsepower car with a realy broad power band.

    This is a bit of information I have found off one of the other forums I have been reading on........

    "Yes it is a 2.4l. 8-8.3:1 compression.

    Here were my initial spool results with the VGT rack fully closed and fixed there. This is just the first log I opened.
    Here are the the most important things affecting spool

    I can't remember what gear for sure but I think its 4th.

    8" of 3" pipe for an exhaust
    No intercooler
    E85
    8-8.3:1 compression
    stock head, cams, intake manifold
    Fairly low timing
    1800 1psi
    2000rpm 3psi
    2500 8psi
    2600 10 psi


    Its a little slower now, the actuator starts to open the thing up a little sooner than I'd like.

    Keep in mind this thing has a compressor in the GT35R size class."

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