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    Senior Member Three Rings SpeedWorksAuto's Avatar
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    I got that long stroke...now a 2.7 single turbo swap

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    Well, after stumbling across a HELLAFIED deal on parts, I threw all ideas of 1.8t with high rpms, and 92.8mm 2.0 out the door.

    You wont belive how much I got all this stuff for, and the guy was just plain awesome to deal with.




    scat rods, JE stroker pistons for 95.5mm crank, ALH 95.5mm stroke crank, oil pump, cam chaim tensioner, raceware headstuds, arp main studs, and more..... Package deal




    Oh and the AEG 92.8mm stroke crank from when I was considering 2.0
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    Senior Member Three Rings SpeedWorksAuto's Avatar
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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    I already have a ported and polished AEB head With Inconnel exhaust valves from when I did a "drop in rod install". I dunno who can actually just do that.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    This is something I've always fantasized about since I'm more a fan of the 'pedal = go' scenario instead of the 'pedal = ........ now go'.

    What rpm's are you planning on setting the redline, what other goodies are you planning on throwing onto that bad boy?

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    Senior Member Three Rings SpeedWorksAuto's Avatar
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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    I plan to turn it no further than 7500rpms. Hopefully I wont need to. I am only going with a upgraded 3071r.

    I will do cams,W/M inj, and thats about it.


    Block is going to the shop tomoro.....

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    that's Christmas come early right there! looks like you've got a fun project ahead
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    Thumbs up Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Ha, total score.

    I think that motor in the last couple three months has been through more pre-install setup & changes than Paris Hiltons been seen in poor quality sexy time vids.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    What will the compression ratio be with that setup? sounds like a good way to go.
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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    9.5:1 CR. I am all the lowend, and offboost driveability. I live in a hilly area, and downshifting to keep the car spinning at 4000 rpms just to go up a steep incline is for the birds.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    I guess ive never understood increasing stroke, it can become unstable in high rpms where BT's are actually of use.

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    Senior Member Three Rings SpeedWorksAuto's Avatar
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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    huh? I guess if you built the motor all wacky, and didnt match up your turbo to your build.....that would be true.

    I am going modest on the turbo. In the end it will be a HTA3076. Now if I was going to a 35R series, then yeah I would build the 2.0 and rev the piss out of it.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedWorksAuto View Post
    9.5:1 CR. I am all the lowend, and offboost driveability. I live in a hilly area, and downshifting to keep the car spinning at 4000 rpms just to go up a steep incline is for the birds.
    I like your style. A lot. I've been wanting to see somebody do a relatively high compression, high displacement build for a while. Are you planning on doing a race gas tune as well as pump or sticking with pump? What are you doing for tuning, maestro 7? Are those 83.5mm pistons?


    Sorry for all of the questions, I just love the sounds of this build
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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    I am not sure on the tune yet. If I go Maestro, I will probably make a couple tunes. I think they are just 83mm pistons.

    Hopefully this thing will be back together by the end of the month, and I can figure out the tune then. I will still have time since I will run it at low psi until the motor is broken in.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Yay! Another stroker build!
    Looks great man!

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    Senior Member Three Rings SpeedWorksAuto's Avatar
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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    I can blame this on you and your HTA3076 talk Lou... I was like.....I want that, then you went 2.0, I was like....I want that. This envy crap has to stop.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Block is now at the shop. He gave me a week and a half turnaround time for deck bore, and blanace. YAY!




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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    How bout HTA3076 instead?

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Yeah, thats what my 3071R will end up being when I send it in to FP.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Keep us updated on your progress! This is a dream of mine that I hope to never wake up from!

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Looks like Militant Grunt is about to have his HTA3076 for sale too if its not already!

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky1.8t View Post
    I guess ive never understood increasing stroke, it can become unstable in high rpms where BT's are actually of use.
    only if you build it wrong. with all tolerances being good and the RA being balanced well enough he could rev this thing past 8k. not that he'll need to as it sounds like he's building it for a more mid-range powerband. and there isn't anything wrong with that.

    good luck with the build OP

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedWorksAuto View Post
    I can blame this on you and your HTA3076 talk Lou... I was like.....I want that, then you went 2.0, I was like....I want that. This envy crap has to stop.
    So addicting isn't it? lol

    looks like you are not cutting corners. This is going to be sick!

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Good luck!

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Quick Question, what happens if I use a VVT cam chain tensioner in my VVT car?

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    So, the machinist called today and said all my work is done. He had to fuse the trigger wheel from my stock crank to the new one since he said they wouldnt just swap over. He had the new keyway notch milled into the end of the crank for my timing pulley. The block was bored and honed with a deck plate, and the rotating assembly from pulley to pressure plate was balanced. He also cleaned and polished my crank.

    Hopefully I wont have to deal with the flywheel coming loose and breaking bolts anymore. For a little piece of mind I am still going to run the ARP flywheel bolts, and evertything is getting a healthy shot of loctite.

    The damage? In the end I am out $435.oo....."cash or check only". Kinda weird that he doesnt take cards, so I will have to squeeze the cash out my butt and go get my parts.

    Anybody in the Pacific Northwest/Greater Seattle area need some Audi/VW work done hit up NW Connecting Rod. They specialize in Audi/VW motors, and will surprise the crap out of you as far as what they just might have sitting on their shelves......stroker cranks already polished ready to install for 150.00 plus core....amongst a ton of other things.
    The guys there also seem to have a lot of experience building race/stroker air and watercooled VW motors.
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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    I scrounged up the money and picked up my parts.

    Flywheel and Pressure plate w/balance work done:



    Rods and Pistons labeled as balanced:



    Crank and pulleys balanced:


    Keyway milled for stock 1.8t crank pulley:


    Work done to "fuse" the two trigger wheels:


    Block Decked and Bored:


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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Piston and rods assembled:

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Awesome project, so that's why you sold me the rods. Because you're going from a 2.0 to a 2.1. Awesome!! I can't wait to stroke my engine.
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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    looking good!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcaanda View Post
    ha, total score.

    i think that motor in the last couple three months has been through more pre-install setup & changes than paris hiltons been seen in poor quality sexy time vids.
    lmfaoooo x2

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    un1ko I dropped your rods off at the shop last night to have the big end bores checked. I didnt want to send you garbage. I am on my way to pick them up along with my thrust washers.

    My 2.1 setup uses the same 144x20mm rod, thanks to the custom JE piston.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Cool! Thanks a lot! Just email me the tracking # Thanks!

    I might also go with JE pistons, I hear a lot of good things about them. My only concern is, if I need look for special pistons that won't touch any of the oil squirts, mind you that I have a AEB block. I hear that people put spacers under the oil squirts, but I'd prefer not to touch them.
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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    From what I have read/heard JE pistons are stronger, but they need more clearance since they expand more once heated up.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Looks great man can't wait to see this thing running and maybe get a ride if I'm lucky. I think its awsome you went with the bigger stroke for a little more displacement and I'm really happy to see you went with a healthy compression ratio, I hate when people drop it way down there. Its funny I was going to do the drop in rod install as well but decided I love torque too much so I ditched the A4 and picked up an S4 for cheap that needs a new cylinder head. I just pulled the head off last night and was going to start calling some machine shops when I saw your post and decided to give NW a call. Talked to Jerry for awhile and got some things figured out. He's a great guy and really knows his ish, I'll probably be dropping the head off down there early next week so he can get to work on it. Good luck man she should be a beast.
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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Yeah, Jerry is awesome to deal with, and they seem to know their Audi/VW stuff.
    I also been looking at S4's lately. They been popping up on CL for cheap in the area alot lately.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    All coated bearings:


    Crank in the block:


    Setting the ring gap:


    I have a few of the rods and pistons installed. I had to take a break since the ragedy ass piston install/ring compressor broke. On a side not I have zero clearance issues with the rods and the block thanks to my 06A block.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Finally got the rods and pistons installed:




    Oil pump on:


    Last one for the Night:
    Last edited by SpeedWorksAuto; 12-31-2009 at 06:50 PM.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    So far the build is goign semi-smoothly. If it keeps up like this The car should be together and running late Saturday.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    So far the build is going semi-smoothly. If it keeps up like this The car should be together and running late Saturday.

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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedWorksAuto View Post
    So far the build is going semi-smoothly. If it keeps up like this The car should be together and running late Saturday.
    Sounds good man, keep us posted and a video is a must, don't go driving around all week and leave us hanging, ha good luck.
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    Re: I got that long stroke...(2.1 95.5mm build)

    Guess everything will have to be on hold....I seem to have lost 1 freaking flywheel bolt. Summit has them, but they aint shipping until the 4th.

    Anybody know any other sources for the ARPs that fit?
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