Audizine - An Automotive Enthusiast Community

Results 1 to 11 of 11
  1. #1
    Active Member Two Rings OE24's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 17 2015
    AZ Member #
    365997
    Location
    Melbourne/FL/United States

    APR Stage 2 tune issues B8.5 6MT

    Guest-only advertisement. Register or Log In now!
    Finally got the APR stage 1 and stage 2 tune with 91,93,100,e85 files for my 2014 Audi A4 B8.5 Quattro 6MT. I have a turbo back quad exhaust from apr, carbonio intake, sprint booster and billet diverter valve. Sprint booster is set to most sensitive setting. Stock clutch, car has about 28,000 miles.

    I decided to put 100 octane gas once I ran out today so I can test out the program. I switched it successfully and everything was running great for hours. I reach a stop light and car was idling fine, rpms were normal, ac was off. I took off in first shifted at about 3200 and then hit it in second to about 4000-5000 and all of a sudden the car just stopped, CEL and esc came on and the car just was unresponsive when the accelerator pedal was pressed. The engine was rumbling at an awkward tone so I immediately turned it off. I must mention that the stabilization control error came on and said see owners manual, tpms sensor also went off. It's like the car was in limp mode, very odd.
    I turned the car back on and it was fine, only light remained was tpms and I reset it in the mmi. The car took off just fine and I shifted through all gears successfully hitting about 100+, no issues. I haven't recreated the issue.

    Has anybody experienced something like this before? It has to be something with the tune cause this never happened prior to it. Any feedback is much appreciated. Thanks ahead.

    UPDATE: I checked codes via vagcom and no codes were present. Drove it again and tried to recreate the issue but it didn't occur.
    Last edited by OE24; 03-04-2016 at 10:15 PM.

  2. #2
    Established Member Two Rings Townending's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 29 2014
    AZ Member #
    278682
    Location
    Claremont, CA / Big Bear, CA

    This happens to me about once a month or two and only E85 which is similar to your 100 octane map. If you pull the codes while all this is happening, you will see a code for no communication to the ECU. Restarting the car always fixes the issue for me, but it never stores the code. I have never been able to purposely replicate the issue, seems to be a random event. I've had my car reflashed and it did not fix the issue. I just learned to live with it.

    Personally I wouldn't worry about it until it becomes a more common issue or is easily replicated.


    But hey, that sudden jerk forward as all power is lost after being full throttle is something else. haha

    NOTE: If you pull the codes while the car is running in the "limp" mode (I say limp mode even though you literally can't accelerate at all), you will probably have a code for P0606 : Loss of communication to ECU.

    2/16/15 - 1st Flash : Stage 1 - Never had any issues
    6/3/15 - 2nd Flash : Stage 1 - This is when the issue started for me
    2/14/16 - 3rd Flash : Stage 2 - Issue has continued
    Last edited by Townending; 03-07-2016 at 07:33 AM.
    2013 A4 Quattro - Moonlight Blue
    Mods : APR Stage 2 E85 - Solowerks S1 Coilovers - 3.0TDI Intercooler - RS4 Honeycomb Grille / Foglight Grilles - ECS Intake tubing - Hardwired Valentine 1
    034 Motor Mounts / Tranny Mount + Insert - ECS Rear Diff Mounts + Insert - Alzor Style 349 Wheels 19"x9.5" ET 40 - 265/35/19 Michelin Pilot Super Sports - VAGCOM Mods

  3. #3
    Veteran Member Three Rings goreckless's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 17 2009
    AZ Member #
    46530
    Location
    Stamford, CT

    First and foremost, 6MTs aren't compatible with E85. Do not put it in your car!

    As for the issue, this could be because the car saw too much slip and cut power. Would you describe it as feeling like the car is hitting a wall? I think @adamazing has experienced this. Try turning ESC off next time and you shouldn't experience it.
    2014 Audi A4 | 6MT | Brilliant Black | S-Line
    APR | AWE | Eurocode | CTS

  4. #4
    Active Member Two Rings OE24's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 17 2015
    AZ Member #
    365997
    Location
    Melbourne/FL/United States

    My apologies I actually do not have an e85 file it is stock, 91,93 and 100 octane files.

    I was able to recreate the issue one more time and yes it was like hitting a wall. I took your advice and turned ESC off, and now it works great. Thank you.

    Question. Why wouldn't my car be compatible with e85? Obviously, I do not have the file but I thought that the silver intake manifolds are the flex fuel models which can take any fuel as long as you have some specific tune.

  5. #5
    Established Member Two Rings Townending's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 29 2014
    AZ Member #
    278682
    Location
    Claremont, CA / Big Bear, CA

    When you recreated the issue, did the engine start running rough again accompanied by the CEL and stabilization/tpms faults?

    As for you're E85 compatibility, what engine code is your engine (CPMA, CPMB, CAEB?) and also does it have the silver/metal intake manifold with the 5th injector? The consensus is that only 2013+ A4's with the 8-Speed Auto have the capability for E85, where as the 6MT does not.
    2013 A4 Quattro - Moonlight Blue
    Mods : APR Stage 2 E85 - Solowerks S1 Coilovers - 3.0TDI Intercooler - RS4 Honeycomb Grille / Foglight Grilles - ECS Intake tubing - Hardwired Valentine 1
    034 Motor Mounts / Tranny Mount + Insert - ECS Rear Diff Mounts + Insert - Alzor Style 349 Wheels 19"x9.5" ET 40 - 265/35/19 Michelin Pilot Super Sports - VAGCOM Mods

  6. #6
    Senior Member Four Rings Project Quattro's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 24 2014
    AZ Member #
    163752
    My Garage
    2016 Audi Q3 Prem+ Quattro (the girl's ride)
    Location
    CT

    Quote Originally Posted by OE24 View Post
    My apologies I actually do not have an e85 file it is stock, 91,93 and 100 octane files.

    I was able to recreate the issue one more time and yes it was like hitting a wall. I took your advice and turned ESC off, and now it works great. Thank you.

    Question. Why wouldn't my car be compatible with e85? Obviously, I do not have the file but I thought that the silver intake manifolds are the flex fuel models which can take any fuel as long as you have some specific tune.
    Quote Originally Posted by Townending View Post
    When you recreated the issue, did the engine start running rough again accompanied by the CEL and stabilization/tpms faults?

    As for you're E85 compatibility, what engine code is your engine (CPMA, CPMB, CAEB?) and also does it have the silver/metal intake manifold with the 5th injector? The consensus is that only 2013+ A4's with the 8-Speed Auto have the capability for E85, where as the 6MT does not.
    ^ This, the older cars and B8.5s with a manual don't have the 5th injector which allows for E85.
    Chairman of the Board for The Pedal Responce Team
    Current: 2013 Audi A4 Prem+ 6MT Sport Package|APR|CR-15|18x8.5 ET35 Alzor 628|Eurocode|RS grille|aFe|LED interior|debadged|VCDS| tint 42% (sides) 20% (rear)
    Past: 2009 Audi A4 Premium 6AT|VCT Wheels|DWS|Pro Kit|e-codes|LED interior|debadged|RS grille|VCDS|yellow fogs|tint|
    |The mastermind formerly known as ProjectBlackout|Ross-Tech/VCDS 14.10 in Trumbull, CT - PM me|

  7. #7
    Veteran Member Three Rings goreckless's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 17 2009
    AZ Member #
    46530
    Location
    Stamford, CT

    You could probably check your gas cap too. It would say it in there if its capable.
    2014 Audi A4 | 6MT | Brilliant Black | S-Line
    APR | AWE | Eurocode | CTS

  8. #8
    Established Member Two Rings Townending's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 29 2014
    AZ Member #
    278682
    Location
    Claremont, CA / Big Bear, CA

    Quote Originally Posted by goreckless View Post
    You could probably check your gas cap too. It would say it in there if its capable.
    My car is E85 compatible but does not have this sticker.
    2013 A4 Quattro - Moonlight Blue
    Mods : APR Stage 2 E85 - Solowerks S1 Coilovers - 3.0TDI Intercooler - RS4 Honeycomb Grille / Foglight Grilles - ECS Intake tubing - Hardwired Valentine 1
    034 Motor Mounts / Tranny Mount + Insert - ECS Rear Diff Mounts + Insert - Alzor Style 349 Wheels 19"x9.5" ET 40 - 265/35/19 Michelin Pilot Super Sports - VAGCOM Mods

  9. #9
    Active Member Two Rings briansubsist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 20 2014
    AZ Member #
    276600
    My Garage
    2012 Volvo XC60 T6 AWD
    Location
    Grand Rapids, MI

    Glad I'm not alone. I had the stage 2 installed three days ago and this has happened to me twice. My traction control was turned off. Did anybody find a resolution for this? I have a 2014 A4 6mt.

  10. #10
    Established Member Two Rings Townending's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 29 2014
    AZ Member #
    278682
    Location
    Claremont, CA / Big Bear, CA

    Oddly enough, my car has not had this happen recently. It happened once about a week after stage 2 flash (2/14/16) and hasn't happened since. The only thing I have changed is coilpacks, but I don't think they are related.
    2013 A4 Quattro - Moonlight Blue
    Mods : APR Stage 2 E85 - Solowerks S1 Coilovers - 3.0TDI Intercooler - RS4 Honeycomb Grille / Foglight Grilles - ECS Intake tubing - Hardwired Valentine 1
    034 Motor Mounts / Tranny Mount + Insert - ECS Rear Diff Mounts + Insert - Alzor Style 349 Wheels 19"x9.5" ET 40 - 265/35/19 Michelin Pilot Super Sports - VAGCOM Mods

  11. #11
    Active Member Two Rings briansubsist's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 20 2014
    AZ Member #
    276600
    My Garage
    2012 Volvo XC60 T6 AWD
    Location
    Grand Rapids, MI

    Nah I don't think so either. Although I'm sure it's still a good idea and I'll probably do the same before too long. I did learn there are two modes on traction control. Partly off and totally off. I did a couple decent pulls with it 100% disengaged and didn't have any issues.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  


    © 2001-2016 Audizine, Audizine.com, and Driverzines.com
    Audizine is an independently owned and operated automotive enthusiast community and news website.
    Audi and the Audi logo(s) are copyright/trademark Audi AG. Audizine is not endorsed by or affiliated with Audi AG.