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Byeeee Hattaaaa
stroked 4g63
AEM Standalone
6262 turbo
in a B5
...and that is all you guys get for now.
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
those artists in black and white photos --Kanye West, is a fucking douche
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that is a disgrace to audi lovers everywhere!!! what a damn shame!!
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
yes, 700whp is a disgrace.
I suppose all the vr6 cars are a disgrace as well. Afterall, they aren't really audi motors either.
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why not just leave it in an evo/talon/eclipse...must better platform than the b5 for that engine...
not hating, seriously curious what the plans are for this
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
prepare to be flamed.
That is all..
p.s.
gtfo!
why not just leave it in an evo/talon/eclipse...must better platform than the b5 for that engine...
not hating, seriously curious what the plans are for this
you're right, 4bangers don't belong in a B5, the 1.8t was a mistake completly, idk why it was used in both audi and VW vehicles for almost 10 years.
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700hp is nice, but atleast the vr6 motor is a german motor!! its from a VW which is pretty much the little bro of the audi..... a freakin 4g63 in an audi is a disgrace!! keep that shit in the dsm's!!
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by derek072887
700hp is nice, but atleast the vr6 motor is a german motor!! its from a VW which is pretty much the little bro of the audi..... a freakin 4g63 in an audi is a disgrace!! keep that shit in the dsm's!!
otherway around, Audi is a subsidiarie of VW.
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
i hope you're serious. it ought to make an interesting car in the end.
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LOL
I like it...
I almost did a ls6 swap in my B6 but I found last minute a cheap 4.2 to put in my avant.
REMEMBER tho, I'll be faster in 2010...
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why would you take that out of the light car it belongs in? you put it in a heavy car with notorious problems and you are trying to fit it to a new drive train? its already fast and awd. i would just build a dsm. way cheeper. lol
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by SummitS4
why would you take that out of the light car it belongs in? you put it in a heavy car with notorious problems and you are trying to fit it to a new drive train? its already fast and awd. i would just build a dsm. way cheeper. lol
You guys are just affraid to push these Audi's
A 9 sec EVO will cost as much as a 9 sec Audi to build, period
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by GURUMAN
LOL
I like it...
I almost did a ls6 swap in my B6 but I found last minute a cheap 4.2 to put in my avant.
REMEMBER tho, I'll be faster in 2010...
Do the LS Swap!!!!
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by deb38
yes, 700whp is a disgrace.
I suppose all the vr6 cars are a disgrace as well. Afterall, they aren't really audi motors either.
not like the 2.7 motor doesnt have VW all over it.
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by Dr.Duct
not like the 2.7 motor doesnt have VW all over it.
Your point?
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the VR6 is in fact an Audi engine as well. Ever heard of an A3 3.2?
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
I think its more fair to compare this with the USP car.. So yeah, Good luck.
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by deb38
Your point?
just that your an idiot in general.
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i get that they both cost money and i see that its just do be different but just because you can doesnt mean you should....a 9 sec evo guna be easier to build that a 9 sec audi. it seems like you are going the wrong way. if you want to go fast in the 1/4 an audi is a stupid choice imho. if you want car that will smoke almost everything all around and then take out a date, then an audi is perfect. i guess im just not understanding
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by Dr.Duct
not like the 2.7 motor doesnt have VW all over it.
it's got VW molded plastic engine covers with the audi logo, that's got to count for something.
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by brilliantA418tQ
the VR6 is in fact an Audi engine as well. Ever heard of an A3 3.2?

Good point, but it was never in a B5 chassis.
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by Dr.Duct
just that your an idiot in general.
You are funny. I am the one studying for the GMAT, while you are community college dropout.
The fact that you can't use the proper grammar when calling someone an idiot...well, the smart boys will realize the hypocrisy.
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by deb38
Good point, but it was never in a B5 chassis.
well... we could count the VR5 B5 passat if we wanted to get technical.
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by deb38
You are funny. I am the one studying for the GMAT, while you are community college dropout.
The fact that you can't use the proper grammar when calling someone an idiot...well, the smart boys will realize the hypocrisy.
lol, I lol'd. You don't know one thing about me Debra.
It's about the time where you begin to tell us your life piddy party story of how you grew up in a card board box as a child, and wore the same clothes for weeks, Only to rise to the top to concur the world.
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by blmlozz
well... we could count the VR5 B5 passat if we wanted to get technical.
Well that could be up for debate.
Back on topic.
4g63 in a B5.... should be good for 700whp when all said and done, which is fairly close. That picture is not recent, as the car is finishing up and getting wired for AEM.
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heyy Sally i'll drop this 4 cyl to swap another 4 cyl..YAYYY
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by GiacGRs4
heyy Sally i'll drop this 4 cyl to swap another 4 cyl..YAYYY
Except the EVO motor is arguably much better than the 1.8, for a variety of reasons:
1) Cost
2) Availability of parts
3) Availability of tuning
4) Displacement
You don't see a whole lot of A4's making the power we are trying to make.
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yep, i knew this would happen.
srsly guys, what effects does this really have on you? does it make your car slower? does it make you look stupid? no. so shut the fuck up and be enthusiests for once.
i don't know about you guys, but i've always wondered about all the different motor swaps available/possible for the B5/6 chassis. the VR was just he beginning and you guys are in denial if you don't think that the swap options are not going to get more broad.
in for results derek! any more pics of the finished product? and why only 700whp? 900-1000whp seems like the standard in the 4g63 these days
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eh i guess to each their own..
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by deb38
Except the EVO motor is arguably much better than the 1.8, for a variety of reasons:
1) Cost
2) Availability of parts
3) Availability of tuning
4) Displacement
You don't see a whole lot of A4's making the power we are trying to make.
#1 1.8T needs the following to be 600whp+ capable... Rods, exhaust valves, valve springs, AEB head, cams. That's it. Really not too expensive. Plus any cost from the swap including bellhousing adapter, custom clutch/flyhweel, ect makes the swap not effective from a cost standpoint to begin with...
#2 1.8T parts are readily available, not an issue there...
#3 You are running AEM, you can tune anything on AEM so the availability of tuning doesn't apply here
#4 You win, hands down. 1.8T's have a long stroke to begin with
Summary, 1.8T's are great little engines, very underrated and misunderstood...
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 Originally Posted by SummitS4
i get that they both cost money and i see that its just do be different but just because you can doesnt mean you should....a 9 sec evo guna be easier to build that a 9 sec audi. it seems like you are going the wrong way. if you want to go fast in the 1/4 an audi is a stupid choice imho. if you want car that will smoke almost everything all around and then take out a date, then an audi is perfect. i guess im just not understanding
i want mine to do both.
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by DW Garage
#1 1.8T needs the following to be 600whp+ capable... Rods, exhaust valves, valve springs, AEB head, cams. That's it. Really not too expensive. Plus any cost from the swap including bellhousing adapter, custom clutch/flyhweel, ect makes the swap not effective from a cost standpoint to begin with...
#2 1.8T parts are readily available, not an issue there...
#3 You are running AEM, you can tune anything on AEM so the availability of tuning doesn't apply here
#4 You win, hands down. 1.8T's have a long stroke to begin with
Summary, 1.8T's are great little engines, very underrated and misunderstood...
For 600, but what about going beyond that... with regards to parts, I was speaking more on the range of parts. The 4g63 seems to have more options.
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Even though I do think DEB can be an ass sometimes on the interwebs, well most of the time  , however I think this swap looks cool, always good to see something different.
Subcribed to see how it gets done and what results it yields.
So good luck kiddo.
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 Originally Posted by deb38
For 600, but what about going beyond that...
Brian (Haenszel20v) made over 650whp on the setup I just said. Notice the 600whp+
It takes a bit more boost but they make the numbers. I have contemplated using a bare bones basic setup like I described, on my 700whp 1.8T project. Just to prove that they are great motors, because they really are!
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by DW Garage
Brian (Haenszel20v) made over 650whp on the setup I just said. Notice the 600whp+
It takes a bit more boost b  t they make the numbers. I have contemplated using a bare bones basic setup like I described, on my 700whp 1.8T project. Just to prove that they are great motors, because they really are!
You just don't see that many high HP 1.8's. High HP 4g63s are a dime a dozen.
 Originally Posted by NYEuroTuner
Even though I do think DEB can be an ass sometimes on the interwebs, well most of the time  , however I think this swap looks cool, always good to see something different.
Subcribed to see how it gets done and what results it yields.
So good luck kiddo. 
Thank you for the kind words, sir.
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by deb38
except the evo motor is arguably much better than the 1.8, for a variety of reasons:
1) cost
2) availability of parts
3) availability of tuning
4) displacement
you don't see a whole lot of a4's making the power we are trying to make.
except vr6 would have been much better
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Re: Guruman, we are coming for you...
 Originally Posted by deb38
You just don't see that many high HP 1.8's. High HP 4g63's are a dime a dozen.
Well that doesn't make them better though...
4g63 have been in tuner friendly/high volume cars for over 20 years. 1.8T's have been in complicated ecu/higher priced/lower volume cars for half of that. Regardless, the quote above doesn't mean much, you don't see dime a dozen 700whp 2JZ's either but it's a great motor still.
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