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    EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

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    I know you guys probably want just a PJ stage 3 B5 but this is the best we could do.

    me and 1FastS4 went for a spirited driving sesh tonight and got a few good pulls in.

    the RS4 still has a bata tune and will be getting custom tuned next week and my avant was cutting in and out of boost (back and forth from 25lbs to 22lbs) in 3rd gear.

    the first run he started pulling in 4th because my MAF was unplugged.

    here is the vid
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Very cool video! Thanks for putting this together.

    Kinda off topic but, did you ever have K04's in your avant? Could you tell a big difference between those and the RS6's?
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    That RS4 is so nice! Great color on it as well. Thanks for posting this!

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Great video, really shows the VF S/C potential.

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    That Rs4 sounds insane. I know our b5's may be faster, but god dam that rs4 is sexy. (minus the hood)

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    inb4thisthreadisruindbydouchbags!

    good runs. the RS4 did better than i expected
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    I find it amazing how fast Stage 3 B5 S4s are.

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    That RS4 sounds so much like a 03 cobra mustang (terminator)

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by CARTEL View Post
    Very cool video! Thanks for putting this together.

    Kinda off topic but, did you ever have K04's in your avant? Could you tell a big difference between those and the RS6's?
    I didn't. but all i know is that the my RS6s spool very fast and very smooth. they also hit 25 lbs of boost and hold 25 to redline (when its running right). im going to log my car tomorrow and see if we can find out why my boost is cutting in and out.

    Quote Originally Posted by sean1.8t View Post
    inb4thisthreadisruindbydouchbags!

    good runs. the RS4 did better than i expected
    and it should be running even better next week after it goes to VF to get a custom tuned

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    i find it amazing how slow supercharged rs4s are..

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    That RS4 needs a louder exhaust.
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by dchan189 View Post
    I find it amazing how fast Stage 3 B5 S4s are.
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    nice vid. .. thumbs up as well.. sucky fuel and more weight and still winner winner chicken dinner...

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by CARTEL View Post
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    Kinda off topic but, did you ever have K04's in your avant? Could you tell a big difference between those and the RS6's?
    from personal experience.....not a big difference at all. Perhaps after 150+ MPH....the RS6s will pull past K04s, but then again.....it all depends on the tune and how optimal each car is running. Great Vid BTW......love to see these types of videos!
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Nice, thanks for the vid. It would be nice to see both cars running strong though
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    I can't justify spending that kind of money(both vehicle and blower) for those kind of results.You can spend the same amount of money and get a Z06 that'll put a hole in your chest from accel.(stock)

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    now all the b6/b7/s4/rs4 guys are going to get all butt hurt because a heavy ass avant with 2 people on pump gas is busting up a blown rs4 on race gas with less weight.
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by mpower1 View Post
    I can't justify spending that kind of money(both vehicle and blower) for those kind of results.You can spend the same amount of money and get a Z06 that'll put a hole in your chest from accel.(stock)
    If you have the money to do it i dont think it matters the cost. there are people that buy 14k pens why... because they can! i would do it just to say i did it haha

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE View Post
    from personal experience.....not a big difference at all. Perhaps after 150+ MPH....the RS6s will pull past K04s, but then again.....it all depends on the tune and how optimal each car is running. Great Vid BTW......love to see these types of videos!
    there is definitely a big difference to redline. The k04s hit that torque spike and then just kinda stay flat after that. rs6s come on a little later, but hit and then you can tell it keeps pullling hard all the way to redline. much stronger up top

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by mpower1 View Post
    I can't justify spending that kind of money(both vehicle and blower) for those kind of results.You can spend the same amount of money and get a Z06 that'll put a hole in your chest from accel.(stock)
    Seriously?

    And in the end, you'll still be driving the same Z06 that every other redneck nascar fan is driving. GTFO. This is the wrong thread for that crap.

    Sorry to take the thread off topic.

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by mpower1 View Post
    I can't justify spending that kind of money(both vehicle and blower) for those kind of results.You can spend the same amount of money and get a Z06 that'll put a hole in your chest from accel.(stock)
    So what? In the end you'll still be driving a completely impractical, high-hp, light weight rwd car. If anything, that would be a track car or a 2nd or even 3rd vehicle.

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    I love Audi's but im sorry a C6 Z06 will take a shit on anything less than a stage 3+ or better. Around the turns forget it. B7 RS4 isn't even in the same universe as a z06 performance wise. I do agree with the audi being more rare and practical thats a given 4 doors + quattro = win.

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    where was silence for these runs? could of given me a call for a pjk04 run..
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by AAAA View Post
    there is definitely a big difference to redline. The k04s hit that torque spike and then just kinda stay flat after that. rs6s come on a little later, but hit and then you can tell it keeps pullling hard all the way to redline. much stronger up top
    sure there may be technically speaking.....but like I said, not from what I have seen with my own eyes.
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by americanthunder View Post
    I love Audi's but im sorry a C6 Z06 will take a shit on anything less than a stage 3+ or better. Around the turns forget it. B7 RS4 isn't even in the same universe as a z06 performance wise. I do agree with the audi being more rare and practical thats a given 4 doors + quattro = win.
    correction.....there are plenty of plain Stage 3 K04 cars that will run toe to toe with a Z06 in a straight line. "Driver's Race" is what I am saying.....win some, lose some.
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    not impressed

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE View Post
    correction.....there are plenty of plain Stage 3 K04 cars that will run toe to toe with a Z06 in a straight line. "Driver's Race" is what I am saying.....win some, lose some.
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    I cant believe people are coming in here comparing a zo6 to an rs4 for no reason...

    How a bout this.. I can go to little mexico city and buy a hatch, put 10k in it and be running low 9's blowing the fucking doors off of the zo6...

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Duct View Post
    I cant believe people are coming in here comparing a zo6 to an rs4 for no reason...

    How a bout this.. I can go to little mexico city and buy a hatch, put 10k in it and be running low 9's blowing the fucking doors off of the zo6...

    but you'd be in a POS import! Wait.....thats another argument.....
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE View Post
    but you'd be in a POS import! Wait.....thats another argument.....
    look who's talking, You drive an s4 .wait.............ah........ How's the car running? lol

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    That RS4 is beautiful but damn that Stage 3 B5 is fast.
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    Veteran Member Four Rings EvilllEmpirE's Avatar
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Duct View Post
    look who's talking, You drive an s4 .wait.............ah........ How's the car running? lol
    lol......car is running ok. Same as always, nothing different. It just takes me to and from work.....nada else
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by EvilllEmpirE View Post
    lol......car is running ok. Same as always, nothing different. It just takes me to and from work.....nada else
    oh course, no one races a station wagon. lol

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    cool video!
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by dchan189 View Post
    I find it amazing how fast Stage 3 B5 S4s are.
    they arent when they are only pushing 15psi... well nevermind, theyre still fast.
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    I have been having thoughts of selling my S. when i see vids like this i feel like ordering turbos and holding on to it.
    great video

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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdStrike View Post
    where was silence for these runs? could of given me a call for a pjk04 run..
    I was recording...
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    LOL @ the poster-child car that the B6/B7 guys were banking on being their savior in beating stage 3 B5's going down, to a station wagon none-the-less. Great runs, and yes, I do love that supercharged RS4, it's tits for sure. I just think it's so funny all the shit the B6/B7 guys talked about "once we get our supercharged cars up and running we'll be smoking stage 3's". Yeah....about that.
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by ///M3 TO S4 View Post
    LOL @ the poster-child car that the B6/B7 guys were banking on being their savior in beating stage 3 B5's going down, to a station wagon none-the-less. Great runs, and yes, I do love that supercharged RS4, it's tits for sure. I just think it's so funny all the shit the B6/B7 guys talked about "once we get our supercharged cars up and running we'll be smoking stage 3's". Yeah....about that.
    bingo! i am in the other thread and they are all neg repping me because i am posting up facts and debunking their myths. not to mention i have to correct every single thing they say because they can't differentiate between fact and fiction...BUT because i correct them, instead of letting them go, I get called out as "insecure" and get negative repped.

    but hey, the guarantee their platform will be blowing by stage 3's in a year.
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    Re: EPL Stage 3+ B5 S4 Vs. VF Engineering B7 RS4

    Quote Originally Posted by APBS4 View Post
    bingo! i am in the other thread and they are all neg repping me because i am posting up facts and debunking their myths. not to mention i have to correct every single thing they say because they can't differentiate between fact and fiction...BUT because i correct them, instead of letting them go, I get called out as "insecure" and get negative repped.

    but hey, the guarantee their platform will be blowing by stage 3's in a year.
    dude you have to chill out. this isnt a "look my b5 is faster" thread. this was just a fun "lets see what the BETA tune will do". stop being a 15 year old ricer. i would take the RS4 over my avant any day. its all personal opinions.

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