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    Adding backup sensors

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    I did a quick search and nothing came up.

    Anyone add backup sensors to their car? I am not talking about the camera, just the sonar sensors. I saw (I can't remember where) that Bosch had a system available for under $300.

    If you did do it how hard was the install?

    thanks

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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    Quote Originally Posted by buckeye96 View Post
    I did a quick search and nothing came up.

    Anyone add backup sensors to their car? I am not talking about the camera, just the sonar sensors. I saw (I can't remember where) that Bosch had a system available for under $300.

    If you did do it how hard was the install?

    thanks
    I saw them as a retrofit kit.....I can't imagine installing them... Cutting holes in bumpers (they are not already there, right?) running wires, etc.

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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    I'd say you would definitely need to buy the bumper that has the holes already in it for the backup sensors or whatever. Your dealer should be able to order it. As for the wiring, I have no idea how difficult that'd be.
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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    Buying a bumper with the holes already cut would make it a lot easier. But the wiring would have to be a bitch. That's why I was curious if anyone had done this. I might have a winter project.

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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    kufatec.com has a retrofit i believe
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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    The reason you didn't find a lot of results is because the cost is too prohibitive to justify. The B8 isn't that big of a car, I say just get to know your vehicle well, and save your money.

    Get one of these, instead:




    If you need them on the road, just get out of the car, and place it before you park.
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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    I got my OEM (Audi original) retrofit sensors last week
    The package comes complete with instructions and all required parts
    I talked to my local Audi representative today and they will make the installation, including drilling the holes and everything



    Let me post a pic and OEM part number for you... BRB
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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    So they'll be drilling holes on your existing bumper? Scary. Let us know how it went and how much. I know I said the opposite earlier, but if it turned out nice and affordable...why not.
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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    Quote Originally Posted by buckeye96 View Post
    Buying a bumper with the holes already cut would make it a lot easier. But the wiring would have to be a bitch. That's why I was curious if anyone had done this. I might have a winter project.
    If they have kept the same premise through out the years I don't think it would be a big deal. I added the emergency cell phone antennas to my B5 which required removing the bumper which only took 4 bolts from inside the trunk. Getting the wiring in and done was easy. Audi left the body plugs in all the right places and harnesses were in the car where needed to just plug it all in. It took a bit of panel removing in the trunk to get to the in car harness but that was it. The panels were not hard to get out and in. May not be the same for this but until you get the kit it's hard to say.

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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    OK guys here's the pic I promissed

    BACK UP (REVERSE) PARKING AID SENSORS FORR AUDI A4 B8

    - Teilenummer (part number) was taken from ETKA
    - Ordered from ibexparts (dot com)
    - The whole kit (OEM Audi) was around 300 EUR plus S&H

    My Audi dealer has installed some of these kits before, this is not new for them, and I have seen them retrofitted on a Q7 and it looked OEM,
    that's why I decided to go for the original AUDI option instead of third-party



    You can see the OEM part number in the box

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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    How much did the whole thing run you? The hardware and the install?

    thanks

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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    Quote Originally Posted by buckeye96 View Post
    How much did the whole thing run you? The hardware and the install?

    thanks
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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    Quote Originally Posted by gtrab View Post
    around 500 washingtons
    That's it???
    That included the kit and the dealer installing it for you?

    Did they install the button inside the car that activates/deactivates it.

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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    dealer ran another 300 for installation:
    the installation was perfect and simple
    holes look exact, looks pre-installed

    but the system is not working at all:
    when I shift to reverse it starts beeping all the time, with or without obstacles, and the audi authorized dealer has no idea
    they have double checked all cabes/connections and everything looks OK, but the beep is annoying and not increasing as you approach an object

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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    Quote Originally Posted by gtrab View Post
    dealer ran another 300 for installation:
    the installation was perfect and simple
    holes look exact, looks pre-installed

    but the system is not working at all:
    when I shift to reverse it starts beeping all the time, with or without obstacles, and the audi authorized dealer has no idea
    they have double checked all cabes/connections and everything looks OK, but the beep is annoying and not increasing as you approach an object

    help appreciated
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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    of course I ain't paying a dime untill they solve it out

    somebody else has experience with this retrofit kit from Audi ???
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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    Anybody have any experience with this, particularly on a US spec A4?? It looks like it converts the LCD screen to accommodate any kind of video. Instead of sensors, I was looking to add a backup camera.

    I do not have MMI (dash and gear shift on the center console look exactly like what's in the photo, but on the left side). I've emailed the company that sells it to ask for installation details, etc., but haven't heard back yet.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    Quote Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
    Anybody have any experience with this, particularly on a US spec A4?? It looks like it converts the LCD screen to accommodate any kind of video. Instead of sensors, I was looking to add a backup camera.

    I do not have MMI (dash and gear shift on the center console look exactly like what's in the photo, but on the left side). I've emailed the company that sells it to ask for installation details, etc., but haven't heard back yet.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    Thanks.

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    Re: Adding backup sensors

    You may want to check this page:

    Notes on retrofitting parking sensors/Audi Parking System in Audi A4/A5/A6 etc.
    http://a6retrofit.tripod.com/article...ingsystem.html
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    gtrab: did you get your reverse sensors working in the end? Also do the retrofit audi oem reverse sensors (if installed by the dealer, i.e. drilling etc) stick out of the bumper or is it the same as factory fitted i.e. doesn't stick out?

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by k3nnis View Post
    gtrab: did you get your reverse sensors working in the end? Also do the retrofit audi oem reverse sensors (if installed by the dealer, i.e. drilling etc) stick out of the bumper or is it the same as factory fitted i.e. doesn't stick out?

    Thanks,
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    Yes I got it fixed, it was very simple in the end: the sensors were not installed in the proper order (murphy's law)
    They work a treat

    And yes they protrude slightly, not that noticeable, but they do
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    Do you have pics of your bumper? Would like to see how much they protude? Thanks :) So the dealers drilled the holes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by k3nnis View Post
    Do you have pics of your bumper? Would like to see how much they protude? Thanks :) So the dealers drilled the holes?
    Bumpers already come with marks for the holes, I could've done it, but I preferred to leave it to the dealer because of the wiring
    (In the end I finished working side by side with the workshop guy due to the sensors order stuff and because I couldn't resist :D - check my DIY thread I'm kind of DIY-crazy :p)

    No I don't have pics
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    Quote Originally Posted by k3nnis View Post
    gtrab: did you get your reverse sensors working in the end? Also do the retrofit audi oem reverse sensors (if installed by the dealer, i.e. drilling etc) stick out of the bumper or is it the same as factory fitted i.e. doesn't stick out?.
    Using the factory sensors with the VW mounting hardware mine came out flush. The kit that was installed in this thread are not the OEM sensors that come from factory.

    Quote Originally Posted by gtrab View Post
    Yes I got it fixed, it was very simple in the end: the sensors were not installed in the proper order (murphy's law)
    They work a treat

    And yes they protrude slightly, not that noticeable, but they do
    How do you install the sensors in the wrong order? That can't of been easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidB8 View Post
    Using the factory sensors with the VW mounting hardware mine came out flush. The kit that was installed in this thread are not the OEM sensors that come from factory.
    The ones I used were Audi OEM, check the pic @ post 10, the little box to the right side

    Quote Originally Posted by DavidB8 View Post
    How do you install the sensors in the wrong order? That can't of been easy.
    the guys from the dealer...
    LOL Murphy rulez :D
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    Ok will PM you tomorrow to get pics :)
    DavidB8: You mean Audi has another kit which comes from the factory? i.e. not the Audi OEM pic that was posted by gtrab?

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    We actually had an entire discussion on this before. The kit you bought, albeit an Audi product is not the same as the factory installed parts. The kits I've seen for sale in Europe are actually made by a company called Cobra. You can see a lot of them on eBay UK for some reason.

    Audi isn't known for it's discounts so work this one out:

    Controller :8K0 919 475 H - $134.64
    Parking sensors: 4H0 919 275 A GRU - $70.20 x 4 280.80
    Buzzer: $10.68
    Add the harnesses say..$100
    Mounting hardware.. About $40.

    I bought mine from Europe so they where cheaper than these but this is discount pricing from genuinevw. For someone wanting to do this retro though you could gets parts for half of that off of ebay though.

    This is a factory retro fitted sensor, does yours look like this?:
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    I'm thinking to take mine to the dealer to do it but not sure what they use? cobra or the audi or something else? I'm going to check with them.

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    can this rear sensors be added with the rear view camera on a symphony system?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavidB8 View Post
    We actually had an entire discussion on this before. The kit you bought, albeit an Audi product is not the same as the factory installed parts. The kits I've seen for sale in Europe are actually made by a company called Cobra. You can see a lot of them on eBay UK for some reason.

    Audi isn't known for it's discounts so work this one out:

    Controller :8K0 919 475 H - $134.64
    Parking sensors: 4H0 919 275 A GRU - $70.20 x 4 280.80
    Buzzer: $10.68
    Add the harnesses say..$100
    Mounting hardware.. About $40.

    I bought mine from Europe so they where cheaper than these but this is discount pricing from genuinevw. For someone wanting to do this retro though you could gets parts for half of that off of ebay though.

    This is a factory retro fitted sensor, does yours look like this?:
    By getting your listed parts, I can have rear backup sensor like yours in photo?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B_Boy View Post
    can this rear sensors be added with the rear view camera on a symphony system?
    I never say never, but realistically no. You need an MMI high system for the factory rear view camera.

    Quote Originally Posted by hazuremon View Post
    By getting your listed parts, I can have rear backup sensor like yours in photo?
    Well... Yes and no, there is more involved than just that. Your car colour makes a difference. If you have a black car you can get them already painted. If anything else you have to order primer and paint them yourself (which is pretty easy).

    You will need the proper part numbers for the retainers that hold the sensors, you will not get those from Audi as they are VW parts, you also need the sealing rings and tape for the holders. Why don't you wait until you get your car. I am close I hope to getting my fronts working. When that happens I will put a DIY up on my website with all the part numbers and instructions for mounting and painting. Not only that, it means I will have my rear module for sale.
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    Thanks David. Great information as always. I will probably wait a bit longer while I am waiting for my car and your rear module.. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsDubC View Post
    I'd say you would definitely need to buy the bumper that has the holes already in it for the backup sensors or whatever. Your dealer should be able to order it. As for the wiring, I have no idea how difficult that'd be.
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    I actually was talking to my Audi dealer about this. They said it takes 2 hours to do and it's about 450 euro total for part and install... Thinking about doing it, but then again I don't back into spaces.

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    Join Date
    Jul 12 2009
    AZ Member #
    44865
    Location
    San Francisco

    I have the same rear parking sensors installed recently in the car. I now hate the sound of the buzzer.. its too fucking annoying, too loud, and beeps constantly when i'm driving out of garage, due to side sensors.

    It's ok for when really parking on the street - it beeps ok - and its loud. It's part #, kit made by cobra. How do I make this thing less annoying? Less loud, and stop reacting to side obstacles, like getting out from narrow garage?

    Yes, I did drill 4 20mm holes in the bumper to fit rear sensors.
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  38. #38
    Veteran Member Three Rings
    Join Date
    Jul 16 2008
    AZ Member #
    30917
    Location
    Finland

    You can't adjust the volume on the Cobra kit. Find the buzzer and cover it with something to silence it a little.

    BTW, anyone have the part numbers for the VW sensor brackets? David? I want to add the OEM optical parking system but the Kufatec kit is a tad too expensive.



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