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    Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

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    According to Car and Driver magazine, the Audi Side Assist sets off radar detectors within 1/2 a mile.

    Anyone have this problem with their own car/radar detector?

    As tested, the $47,075 MSRP of this Audi towers over the Acura’s second-highest $43,995. Our advice: Avoid the $7350 Prestige level and skip all other packages that include “Audi side assist,” the lane-change warning system. To those of us who don’t leave home without our radar detectors (most of the staff), this annoying feature uses K-band radar in the fashion of an automated supermarket door as it looks for other vehicles in your blind spots. Trouble is, it sets off any decent detector within a half-mile behind, somewhat nearer in front. The maker of an enthusiast car should know better.

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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    Quote Originally Posted by sakimano View Post
    According to Car and Driver magazine, the Audi Side Assist sets off radar detectors within 1/2 a mile.

    Anyone have this problem with their own car/radar detector?
    I haven't personally, but it makes sense. A "radar" just detects different wavelengths, if ASA is using K band, it'll set it off

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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ngng View Post
    I haven't personally, but it makes sense. A "radar" just detects different wavelengths, if ASA is using K band, it'll set it off
    well, if you have something like a passport, you should disengage K-bandwidth anyway. police dont use it anymore. Personally, I have a V1 and I dont think you can turn off k bandwidth completely, even in logic mode.
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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    Quote Originally Posted by whartung View Post
    well, if you have something like a passport, you should disengage K-bandwidth anyway. police dont use it anymore. Personally, I have a V1 and I dont think you can turn off k bandwidth completely, even in logic mode.
    that's kinda up to you.

    imo, I run with all bands on. PD's that don't have a large budget often use older equipment. i can't tell you how many times i have been on a rural drive, and my buddies have gotten tickets when my X band has gone off.

    is it annoying? yes. is a little annoyance worth a 25 yr clean driving record? yes

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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ngng View Post
    that's kinda up to you.

    imo, I run with all bands on. PD's that don't have a large budget often use older equipment. i can't tell you how many times i have been on a rural drive, and my buddies have gotten tickets when my X band has gone off.

    is it annoying? yes. is a little annoyance worth a 25 yr clean driving record? yes
    damn, i misspoke anyway. i meant passports can turn off the x band. if they use k band for the side assist then thats annoying as hell.

    but i am in a very very poor rural area, and i'm unfortunately familiar with the police's equipment, and even they dont use x band.
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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    Quote Originally Posted by whartung View Post
    well, if you have something like a passport, you should disengage K-bandwidth anyway. police dont use it anymore. Personally, I have a V1 and I dont think you can turn off k bandwidth completely, even in logic mode.
    Police in my area still do K band, and KA, but K is rarer these days to see.
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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    Quote Originally Posted by WinterRunner View Post
    Police in my area still do K band, and KA, but K is rarer these days to see.
    I see K all the time up in Central Mass, definitely more Ka in Southern New England though
    You represent the idiocy of today.

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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    hahahaha...I was reading the responses thinking 'wow...lots of S4 guys browsing the B8 threads'

    then I realized I started the thread in the wrong forum

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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    If you have a V1, it will alert to this every time (really annoying and de-sensitises you to a real alert). On the Bel/Escorts they always do not alert to this system - its hit or miss due to the technology and filtering in the detector. I had this happen the other day with a new Audi next to me - Sti would alert for 5 secs then go silent - another minute it would do it again, and again.

    As for other detectors - well, most are not worth discussing especially the items most of the audi dealers sell as an add-on.

    V1's philosophy has always been alert to radar and let the user decide if it is a threat and they do it very well.

    Bel/Escorts model is different. They know the number one reason people return detectors is due to the falses from door openers and they filter K band quite extensively. As a result the tolerances for the Bel/Escorts to alert - Signal Strength and duration is more than the V1 needs to alert.

    Escort is working on the problem and they might have a solution, but this would hurt detection ability for real radar threats.

    For those of you who drive in Cali on the thruway and have a detector you must be familiar with the K band traffic monitoring. The signal is brief but annoying. Escort has a software update that fixes this for a few detectors (including the Bel Rx-65). Those with a V1 will have to put up with this issue (or increase their K band mute time). It is called a TSR update. All it generally does is raise the floor for the duration of the alert so that the detector will not alert to this brief K band, which of course could hurt an I/O K band encounter on the same frequency (it may not alet to a signal that is less than a few secs).

    If their fix is something along those lines than I would rather get the Kband alert from the new Audis.

    http://www.escortradar.com/tuneup/

    Audi has been taking a lot of heat on this and hopefully will do something, but several have already been sold. I do not believe K band is used in Germany (and detectors might be illegal there anyhow)

    With that said the radar detector makers have sent a letter to AOA and had a meeting with them to explain the problem. So far AOA has ignored the issue and several people with Detectors have disabled the radar system on their audis. AOA can put it on a frequency that the detectors will not sweep (above 24.200 and less than Ka band) and keep everyone happy but then the cost would be more as those transmitters are more expense, as less of them are made.

    Saki - Why do you ask? The OPP will take any non-stealth detector very quickly with their Spectre VI - Which includes the V1 - Mine got taken on the 401 on the way to Toronto and another by the QPP near Montreal. Unless you have an Sti, Sti-R, 9500ci or Redline (all made by Bel/Escort) they can find them quite easily in the banned provinces and my fines were about $500 each - and that was many moons ago.
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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    No problems here whatsoever..=D

    http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_1...1023x272xTier3

    This is what I have
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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    Great - Another Cobra causing falses on my Sti-R.

    Gald you are happy with it :D

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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    I read the title and was like "these models don't have that" lol then i see your post down aways, looks like you should report yourself

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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    I have X and K turned off. Frikkin I-70 runs through StripMallVille and the K band goes off fairly frequently, especially at the I-270 exit going north.

    Most of the cops use laser on the highways anyway. Very little you can do about that, as laser jammers are illegal. Although I have heard of "parking sensors" that do the same thing.
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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    you can actually program the v1 to not alert. have to turn off POP2
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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    Quote Originally Posted by oatzel View Post
    you can actually program the v1 to not alert. have to turn off POP2
    http://veilguy.blogspot.com/2007/05/...ence-with.html
    good to know
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    Re: Radar Detector Problems with Audi Side Assist?

    I believe the new Infinity FX may have the same deal?..Followed one down the highway the other day and couldnt find anything else that it could have been....
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