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  1. #1
    Established Member Two Rings MacTiki's Avatar
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    Bent subframe help...

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    I took my S4 to the local Audi dealership (Niello) because it was making a fairly loud clunking noise from the front right of the car during heavy braking or tight turns. I figured another control arm bushing had gone out which would be covered by warranty.

    I get a call from my service rep he tells me the sub frame is bent which caused the lower control arm bushings to go out (upper went out on both sides previously); not under warranty obviously. He ask me what I hit? I told him nothing; then it dawns on me I started to notice this noise right after I got my new wheels on. So I'm thinking the guys who put my wheels on jacked up the car by the subframe and I'm screwed cuz I had the wheels put on about 2 months ago so recourse is unlikely.

    Service rep says they tried to bend it back and they can't hes calling his body shop to see if they have something they can bend it back with.

    I'm into the problem for less than $100 so far but I have this bad feeling it could spiral out of control real quick like.

    It drives straight with no alignment issues, should I have them replace the lower bushings and just drive it?

    If it comes down to it figure I can find a used subframe at a junkyard, does anyone know if it the same as the A4?

    I replacing it as simple as unbolting the suspension/transmission dropping it and putting the used one in its place?

    I know this is a lot of questions but I am just at the beginning of this issue so I have no idea where its going, I will keep everyone updated.

    I appreciate any responses!

    Thank you in advance,

    Tiki

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    Account Terminated Four Rings
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    2007 S4 MT6; B8 A4 2.0T Avant
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    Toronto, Ontario, Canada

    Re: Bent subframe help...

    jesus...good luck.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings drew's Avatar
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    Re: Bent subframe help...

    i dont think jacking the car up would do that. did you buy the car used?

    either way good luck

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    Veteran Member Four Rings
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    2014 S4 06 explorer beater honda
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    pasadena md
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    Re: Bent subframe help...

    ok im confused how this couldnt be under warrenty. The subfame is steel and doesnt bend easily. Try another dealership. If the subfame was bent you would have alignmet issues and tire wear problems. I work at a dealership and its hard to see that the subfame is bent when its that beffy. it holds the motor and trans. i would want pics

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    Veteran Member Four Rings RAudi Driver's Avatar
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    Re: Bent subframe help...

    Yea, I would get a 2nd opinion.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Fade2Black's Avatar
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    Black B6 S4
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    Springfield NJ

    Re: Bent subframe help...

    Quote Originally Posted by sakimano View Post
    jesus...good luck.
    what he said
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    Veteran Member Three Rings szinkuti's Avatar
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    Grand Prairie, Texas

    Re: Bent subframe help...

    Quote Originally Posted by MacTiki View Post
    I took my S4 to the local Audi dealership (Niello) because it was making a fairly loud clunking noise from the front right of the car during heavy braking or tight turns. I figured another control arm bushing had gone out which would be covered by warranty.

    I get a call from my service rep he tells me the sub frame is bent which caused the lower control arm bushings to go out (upper went out on both sides previously); not under warranty obviously. He ask me what I hit? I told him nothing; then it dawns on me I started to notice this noise right after I got my new wheels on. So I'm thinking the guys who put my wheels on jacked up the car by the subframe and I'm screwed cuz I had the wheels put on about 2 months ago so recourse is unlikely.

    Service rep says they tried to bend it back and they can't hes calling his body shop to see if they have something they can bend it back with.

    I'm into the problem for less than $100 so far but I have this bad feeling it could spiral out of control real quick like.

    It drives straight with no alignment issues, should I have them replace the lower bushings and just drive it?

    If it comes down to it figure I can find a used subframe at a junkyard, does anyone know if it the same as the A4?

    I replacing it as simple as unbolting the suspension/transmission dropping it and putting the used one in its place?

    I know this is a lot of questions but I am just at the beginning of this issue so I have no idea where its going, I will keep everyone updated.

    I appreciate any responses!

    Thank you in advance,

    Tiki
    jacking up car would not bend the subframe.....did they try to perform an alignment?..cause that it is one of the few ways to even tell if it is bent...or there is a HUGE bend on it where you hit something in the road/or went over a curb....tell them to put it on a lift and snap some pics of the so-called bent subframe

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    Veteran Member Three Rings cam's Avatar
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    Re: Bent subframe help...

    i call bs. no way the subframe is bent, as stated previously, your alignment would be off and you would have tire wear issues

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    Senior Member Three Rings RudeBwoi's Avatar
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    Re: Bent subframe help...

    Quote Originally Posted by chaos2984 View Post
    ok im confused how this couldnt be under warrenty. The subfame is steel and doesnt bend easily. Try another dealership. If the subfame was bent you would have alignmet issues and tire wear problems. I work at a dealership and its hard to see that the subfame is bent when its that beffy. it holds the motor and trans. i would want pics
    A bent subframe isnt a normal issue. If that was to happen its would be bc of either some sort of negligence or an accident, so I doubt a warranty would cover that. Maybe insurance, but not warranty.
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    Veteran Member Three Rings
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    2004 Audi S4, 1997 Audi A4 1.8
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    Northern NJ

    Re: Bent subframe help...

    Is ti possible they jacked at the lower control arm? That would be an easy one to bend..

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    Senior Member Four Rings ...Mark...'s Avatar
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    Murdered out 04 S4..
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    Atlanta BITCHES!!!

    Re: Bent subframe help...

    Quote Originally Posted by RudeBwoi View Post
    A bent subframe isnt a normal issue. If that was to happen its would be bc of either some sort of negligence or an accident, so I doubt a warranty would cover that. Maybe insurance, but not warranty.
    Gotta agree.

    Is it possible it was hit prior to you buying it?

    Did you check the VIN?

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    Senior Member Three Rings deviant-customs's Avatar
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    04 S4 07 R1 87 K5
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    CO

    Re: Bent subframe help...

    If it does turn out to be bent I have an extra one I don't need. The thing is beefy. I could not believe how heavy the front suspension / brakes weigh as one unit
    Don't Drink and Park. Accidents Cause People.

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    Active Member One Ring
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    Woodland Hills

    Re: Bent subframe help...

    Any one know if there is a difference in subframe between the 6 speed and a automatic?? I bent my front subframe and found one but its from a automatic

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    Senior Member Three Rings deviant-customs's Avatar
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    Re: Bent subframe help...

    I have a 6spd subframe if you need one
    Don't Drink and Park. Accidents Cause People.



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