Rich's -Free- Noggy Build Thread - RS6 -> GT2560 -> GTX2863

**shorterthanrich** · 09-14-2010 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by gearhead1186

aside from SouthBend themselves, try Scotty @ AdvanceAutomotion or Mike Hood @ Ringer Racing.

Thanks. I'm guessing you sold yours?

**wdbdy2000s4** · 09-14-2010 12:31 PM

Look on vortex to see what vendors will be at H20. Usually you can get substantial discounts if you buy @ a show.

**gearhead1186** · 09-14-2010 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by shorterthanrich

Thanks. I'm guessing you sold yours?

I have somebody who put a deposit on it and paying in full next week. i dont normally do that but there arent many builds out there that need a clutch like this.

Originally Posted by wdbdy2000s4

Look on vortex to see what vendors will be at H20. Usually you can get substantial discounts if you buy @ a show.

good point. didnt think of that.

**nefkntym** · 09-23-2010 09:17 AM

Nice to see the progress on this buddy. I PMed you yesterday.

**shorterthanrich** · 09-23-2010 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by nefkntym

Nice to see the progress on this buddy. I PMed you yesterday.

Thanks, man. Getting the engine on Saturday, supposedly. Hopefully it's true this time.

I'll send you that excel sometime soon - prob this weekend. I'm up to my eyeballs in work between my consulting job, Pintley, moving into a new place, and trying to get this car together.

**nefkntym** · 09-23-2010 09:39 AM

That great new about the motor. I hope you get it on time. I hate missed deadlines with machine shops. You want good work, but damn it gets your hopes up.

Not a problem with the excel. I have some big decisions regarding the smurf.

**bps4** · 10-06-2010 09:25 AM

bump.. hows the build going rich?

**nefkntym** · 10-07-2010 09:56 AM

Hey buddy, what's the good word?

**shorterthanrich** · 10-08-2010 11:43 AM

Hey guys, so we ran into a small issue re-assembling the motor. The main bolts were for a different generation of 2.7T. No big deal, got the right ones shipped super fast from Scotty @ Advanced. I plan on heading down Monday or Tuesday night to put the block back together and take it home.

Talked to Prince yesterday and all of my stuff is finished and should ship out this week. Getting an updated spider hose from them, too.

I'm going to call scotty and southbend to see what they can do on price for the southbend clutch. SS DXD-B (Drag), that Mike (gearhead) suggested. It seems to be about as hardcore as it gets before getting a twin, which I just can't afford.

Hell, all of this is going together and I wont even be able to upgrade the SMICs for a while, hah. How sad. Same with meth... oh well

**nefkntym** · 10-08-2010 11:47 AM

Good to know. Glad everything is coming along buddy.

**wdbdy2000s4** · 10-08-2010 12:21 PM

The engine stand looks kind of lonely in my garage. I might have to move my block next to it in the meantime to keep it company.

**WMi_S4** · 10-08-2010 01:37 PM

Rich, I can sell you the SB clutch for $900 shipped, LMK know man. BN, old stg 5 new stg 3 drag like you want.

Originally Posted by shorterthanrich

Hey guys, so we ran into a small issue re-assembling the motor. The main bolts were for a different generation of 2.7T. No big deal, got the right ones shipped super fast from Scotty @ Advanced. I plan on heading down Monday or Tuesday night to put the block back together and take it home.

Talked to Prince yesterday and all of my stuff is finished and should ship out this week. Getting an updated spider hose from them, too.

I'm going to call scotty and southbend to see what they can do on price for the southbend clutch. SS DXD-B (Drag), that Mike (gearhead) suggested. It seems to be about as hardcore as it gets before getting a twin, which I just can't afford.

Hell, all of this is going together and I wont even be able to upgrade the SMICs for a while, hah. How sad. Same with meth... oh well

**Matt Danger** · 10-08-2010 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by shorterthanrich

Hey guys, so we ran into a small issue re-assembling the motor. The main bolts were for a different generation of 2.7T.

What/when was the changeover?

**shorterthanrich** · 10-11-2010 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by wdbdy2000s4

The engine stand looks kind of lonely in my garage. I might have to move my block next to it in the meantime to keep it company.

Haha I know, I know - its away from its only mate, the 2.7T. Soon they will be reunited! Feel free to nuzzle it up to your 2.7 in the meantime.

Also, since I get email updates for this thread, to respond to the comments you edited out, yes, I know, it's what I get for quitting my day job, and Pintley is going very well, thank you very much, haha. If Pintley goes according to plan, I'll make up for it and do a ridiculous single turbo or LSx situation eventually.

Originally Posted by WMi_S4

Rich, I can sell you the SB clutch for $900 shipped, LMK know man. BN, old stg 5 new stg 3 drag like you want.

Sending you a PM.

Originally Posted by Matt Danger

What/when was the changeover?

Not sure, actually. Apparently you need to see the engine code to know which main bolts you need. I called up Scotty, gave him my engine code, and he hooked me up.

**Sales@RAI** · 10-11-2010 10:34 AM

1.8Ts have this also. Some people use generics though and they seem to work. Nothing wrong with being too cautious while building a motor tho

**shorterthanrich** · 10-12-2010 12:55 PM

Crappy update: Seems the shop that has my motor was robbed a few nights ago, and some of my parts are among the missing.

It seems to not be serious items, but we'll be acquiring the missing parts. So much for going down there this week. Next week at best :-/

**nefkntym** · 10-12-2010 01:02 PM

Seriously...WTF!!! That's horse pucky!!! I hate thieves.

Sorry about the bad news buddy. That sucks.

**shorterthanrich** · 10-14-2010 11:04 AM

Ordered the new Friction Plate from AWE for the flywheel. DAMN THEM for charging so much all the damn time. $117 shipped! Come on, that's ridiculous.

The machine shop that got robbed has secured a shortblock at a good price thanks to DxC, which will have all of the parts missing from my build. Hopefully leaving work early and heading down on Tuesday to get the motor.

If anyone wants to donate about a thousand dollars for a clutch, that would be swell ;) If not, I'll have it ordered before everything goes into the car.

**shorterthanrich** · 10-22-2010 08:06 AM

Alright, some good updates! I went down to Jake @ DoWerk's shop last night and we assembled most of the motor. Since his shop was robbed, we found out we were missing a simple ratchet adapter, and so we couldn't finish. He's going to time up the motor and bring it up today.
Working at the shop with Jake was GREAT. I've never done any motor internals work before, and he was extremely patient explaining all of the processes to me. I'm feeling a whole lot more confident and excited about this whole process, now that the motor is nearly finished and getting to see the great work of his garage and machine shop.

The clutch has been ordered! Basically the same as Evil-Evo. Custom Southbend Clutch, extreme load pressure plate (I think its a 30 or 40% increased clamp pressure) with a 6 puck ceramic disc. Should hold pretty well.

Just a bit of shaving on the bottom for balancing

Weight:

Clean n' machined:

Crankshaft:

Some ridiculously clean oil pan shots:

New oil pump and clean pan on:

Built 2.8L Heads!

Supertech exhaust valves. Those stock 2.7 intake valves cleaned up nicely!

Almost there...hopefully finishing up today

**RolledMySTi** · 10-22-2010 10:51 AM

Looking good.

**nefkntym** · 10-22-2010 10:52 AM

Nice. I am glad that things are coming together for you.

**gearhead1186** · 10-22-2010 07:30 PM

great progress..

**wdbdy2000s4** · 10-24-2010 06:10 AM

I'm looking forward to seeing this bad boy today!!

**bigern45** · 10-24-2010 07:25 AM

awesome rich!! nice to see its coming along.. btw.. dont YOU owe me a test drive when its finished??? i can hook you up with a place to stay here in KY..

**shorterthanrich** · 10-24-2010 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by gearhead1186

great progress..

Thanks Mike. I'm going to give you a call shortly...

Originally Posted by wdbdy2000s4

I'm looking forward to seeing this bad boy today!!

Oh well...sometime this week. I'll explain later. I'll probably call you, too.

Originally Posted by bigern45

awesome rich!! nice to see its coming along.. btw.. dont YOU owe me a test drive when its finished??? i can hook you up with a place to stay here in KY..

Hahaha yeah man, that's definitely true. Any good breweries out in KY? Maybe I need to go on a "sales call" out to KY, haha.

**gearhead1186** · 10-24-2010 08:24 PM

It was nice finally meeting you today. I'll be following your thread extra closely now. Better make it for Thanksgiving. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

**shorterthanrich** · 10-25-2010 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by gearhead1186

It was nice finally meeting you today. I'll be following your thread extra closely now. Better make it for Thanksgiving. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

Thanks, Mike. Your car is SICK. Just the sound alone...it's a complete monster. It felt fast even at 5 PSI, haha.

I do hope to be driving it down to LI for Thanksgiving, so the crunch is on!

**shorterthanrich** · 10-25-2010 06:27 AM

Alright, so updates de interesante:

Some mixup happened with the 2.8 heads. If you've been following my build, then a while ago you saw that the 2.8 heads I had bought came without cam-caps, and so they were basically useless to me. I was able to sell the cams for the price I paid for the heads, so no big deal. The set that was picked up for me...has a slight issue. One head is perfectly fine. The other, seemingly matching head, which has the same part number on the casting, bolts up just fine, etc, is different. The oil feed line hits the 2.7 valve cover AND the line itself is significantly smaller. When this set of heads was picked up, there were 2 sets on the table, so we're thinking the set got mismatched, and the other "2.8" set were some crazy set of heads that LOOKS identical on first glance...but isn't.

So, long story short, Jake discovered this issue and decided that since this is a high RPM build, the best option is to go and retrieve the proper matching head to the set. He has it in possession and is swapping over all of my parts into it today. The motor will be brought up to me sometime this week, probably Wed or Thursday. It's a small setback, but Jake is taking care of it above and beyond my expectations, so I'm really happy about that.

**nefkntym** · 10-25-2010 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by shorterthanrich

Alright, so updates de interesante:

Some mixup happened with the 2.8 heads. If you've been following my build, then a while ago you saw that the 2.8 heads I had bought came without cam-caps, and so they were basically useless to me. I was able to sell the cams for the price I paid for the heads, so no big deal. The set that was picked up for me...has a slight issue. One head is perfectly fine. The other, seemingly matching head, which has the same part number on the casting, bolts up just fine, etc, is different. The oil feed line hits the 2.7 valve cover AND the line itself is significantly smaller. When this set of heads was picked up, there were 2 sets on the table, so we're thinking the set got mismatched, and the other "2.8" set were some crazy set of heads that LOOKS identical on first glance...but isn't.

So, long story short, Jake discovered this issue and decided that since this is a high RPM build, the best option is to go and retrieve the proper matching head to the set. He has it in possession and is swapping over all of my parts into it today. The motor will be brought up to me sometime this week, probably Wed or Thursday. It's a small setback, but Jake is taking care of it above and beyond my expectations, so I'm really happy about that.

Wow, that could have really ended badly. I am glad it is all going to work out for you in the long run. I am looking forward to you getting your Noggy back on the road, actually I am looking forward to seeing more of your's and Mike's cars in general. Congrats buddy, keep up the good work.

**shorterthanrich** · 10-29-2010 09:44 AM

This has been a good few days.
Tuesday, 10/26: clutch arrived
Wed, 10/27: Engine delivered
Thursday 10/28: 1/2 the turbo kit arrived

**shorterthanrich** · 10-29-2010 09:53 AM

Aaaaand the turbos just got here. HELL YES.

**nefkntym** · 10-29-2010 09:56 AM

^^^ Outstanding.

**shorterthanrich** · 10-29-2010 10:01 AM

unboxing right now and pics soon. VAST sent me a T-Shirt. Awwww, thanks guys haha

**shorterthanrich** · 10-29-2010 10:59 AM

Alright, what an awesome week.

Southbend Stage 4 Extreme Clutch (Southbend 6 Puck Cerametallic with high clamp pressure Sachs Pressure Plate)

**shorterthanrich** · 10-29-2010 11:05 AM

The first part of the kit from VAST. Downpipes, test pipes, inlets, wastegates, wastegate dump tubes, V-Bands, AEM Air filter, some cooling lines.

Also shown but NOT part of the VAST GT700 kit: Upgraded spider hose and Snub Mount.

I had VAST ceramic coat everything possible. Most importantly, to reduce bay temps as much as possible. Secondly, everything looks pretty cool coated in black like that..so clean.

mmmm welds:

Wastegate porn:

Normally, there's a last bend at the bottom to reduce the sound of the wastegate dumping. I asked VAST to skip that bit, because I won't mind the noise at all. They say it pretty quiet the way they normally do it.