FAQ: VR6 -12V & 24V Info sharing

[NYCVR6]

Justin, do you have any vids of your dash while the car is running? I just want to get a sense of how functional the dash is.

I'm a few weeks away from starting mine up, and I jsut wanted to see if you did any custom splicing, de-pinning to the original harness to get the Dash to run without Christmas lights.

Thanks

I can take some. Epc check engine and abs lights on. Tach, speedo, water temp, etc all work. We'll get rid of as many warning lights as possible soon

[NYEuroTuner]

I can take some. Epc check engine and abs lights on. Tach, speedo, water temp, etc all work. We'll get rid of as many warning lights as possible soon

Thank you..

But any Custom wiring/modding to the original harness?

[terraflata]

Everyone chasing 500-600WHP, how is your transmission suriving all of this?? I refused doing a VR6 simply because I have no faith in the tranny for the VR6`s potential.

[APBS4]

What are you revving the car out to? And how is the stock tach handling those revs?

Looking good so far.

[O2VW1.8T]

Everyone chasing 500-600WHP, how is your transmission suriving all of this?? I refused doing a VR6 simply because I have no faith in the tranny for the VR6`s potential.

USP motorsport is at 826awhp on there stock S4 trans with a VR6 and it seems to be doing fine.

[onemoremile]

Im looking into my options for axles.. Do you have any more info on those axles and availability? Thanks

JHM has solid axles at a good price.

http://www.jhmotorsports.com/shop/ca...c6b8d891210ca4

[NYCVR6]

Thank you..

But any Custom wiring/modding to the original harness?

Yes a lot, we left the fatory ecu in only for a few wires for certain things.. Otherwise everything else is controlled by the standalone.

[NYCVR6]

What are you revving the car out to? And how is the stock tach handling those revs?

Looking good so far.

7500 so far, not much more needed for the vr6, the stock tach is too slow to keep up with the motor. I think in first gear if it reads 6800, im at 7500 according to my standalone.

The stock trans is plenty strong.

[NYCVR6]

JHM has solid axles at a good price.

http://www.jhmotorsports.com/shop/ca...c6b8d891210ca4

JHM axles look like the same ones i just broke.

[jibberjive]

JHM has solid axles at a good price.

http://www.jhmotorsports.com/shop/ca...c6b8d891210ca4

Has anyone shown those axles to be any better or worse than the stock ones??

Edit: You replied before I saw it:)

[NYCVR6]

Has anyone shown those axles to be any better or worse than the stock ones??

I bought very similar looking ones to those from purems, and you can see the picture of them above.

[AMC]

yea they are the same from what i heard. anyways justin u have pm

[SourDieselS4]

The cars a beast, great work

From what iv heard its pretty common for OEM axles to break like this, the JHM/PureMS axles are solid so that wont happen but i guess it just exposes the next weakest point.

[jibberjive]

The cars a beast, great work

From what iv heard its pretty common for OEM axles to break like this, the JHM/PureMS axles are solid so that wont happen but i guess it just exposes the next weakest point.

They're different axles with different geometry, and they could well be made of different metals. Just because they break at different places doesn't necessarily mean that they've cured any weak points, because for all we know the joint where the solid ones broke could simply be weaker than OEM. I'm not claiming that's the case or anything, just saying that that logic doesn't necessarily work with these.

[jibberjive]

Looks like it's time for JHM or 034 to fab or contract some more of their signature custom B5 S4 parts and get us some killer axles that can handle all of these high power builds

[O2VW1.8T]

I'd hit my marty at raxles.com he can make the axles for you and the warranty is life time, he's confident they wont break if you get the performance ones. I believe i paid 349 each for mine and it was worth it...

[NYCVR6]

Looks like it's time for JHM or 034 to fab or contract some more of their signature custom B5 S4 parts and get us some killer axles that can handle all of these high power builds

I think 034 has custom axles on their time attack car.

[NYCVR6]

I'd hit my marty at raxles.com he can make the axles for you and the warranty is life time, he's confident they wont break if you get the performance ones. I believe i paid 349 each for mine and it was worth it...

Ive heard mixed reviews with raxles.. I guess a complete set would be around $1400 give or take?

[Jake39454]

Your axles were not like the JHM's, yours were very skinny and had machine marks, not smooth like factory/JHM. Yours looked exactly like the Empi's that break easily

[wdbdy2000s4]

I refused doing a VR6 simply because I have no faith in the tranny for the VR6`s potential.

lol. where is this coming from? the stock trans is VERY strong. people only blow syncros on misshifts or years of not knowing how to drive standard. All the big players in the s4 game have been using stock trans for a long time(some change gear ratios). All the GT guys have been running 01Es with no problem, Chris green does, 034, eurocode, rstyles, etc. I really wouldn't worry about it.

[NYCVR6]

Your axles were not like the JHM's, yours were very skinny and had machine marks, not smooth like factory/JHM. Yours looked exactly like the Empi's that break easily

Im going to contact jhm to see who makes their axles. I spoke to Arek (OZZ) with the 9 sec rs4, he said he uses stock axles, or sometimes from the audi 80/100's.. Not sure if you have to modify those to make them work though. Probably hard to find oem ones still also.

[Jake39454]

If you need old school Audi axles, let me know

[Issam@INA]

Im going to contact jhm to see who makes their axles. I spoke to Arek (OZZ) with the 9 sec rs4, he said he uses stock axles, or sometimes from the audi 80/100's.. Not sure if you have to modify those to make them work though. Probably hard to find oem ones still also.

What about A1CVTech?
they did Aaron's axles

[flips4]

man, that swap is sick. definitely interesting. you do some amazing work there!!! subscribed


question on your ViPec V88 engine management.
How much did it run? also are you able to share the tune by putting it on a file and uploading it to another ViPec V88 engine management system? Or is it just one by one tune on this system. If you can share it, it would be a great starter map if you were to be able to put this together in your garage, then drive it to the tuner instead of getting it towed.

Couple of random questions

What FMIC are you running?

How much more are you planning on pushing this on the HP side?

Do you think the stock fuel system, (with a bigger fuel pump and injectors with modified fuel lines to mate up to the new fuel rail) be able to handle 600HP ish ?

Final question.

Are you running for president? Anyone who can tackle the complications and hiccups involved with this build can easily run a country.

again a big

[NYCVR6]

If you need old school Audi axles, let me know

I wish i knew which ones could work.

[NYCVR6]

What about A1CVTech?
they did Aaron's axles

Shot them an email.

[NYCVR6]

man, that swap is sick. definitely interesting. you do some amazing work there!!! subscribed


question on your ViPec V88 engine management.
How much did it run? Roughly $2800-3000 wired into the caralso are you able to share the tune by putting it on a file and uploading it to another ViPec V88 engine management system? My tuner wouldnt like thatOr is it just one by one tune on this system. If you can share it, it would be a great starter map if you were to be able to put this together in your garage, then drive it to the tuner instead of getting it towed. If my tuner is doing it and you buy the vipec from him, he will supply a startup map

Couple of random questions

What FMIC are you running? Precision 750

How much more are you planning on pushing this on the HP side? Probably looking to make another 100 give or take

Do you think the stock fuel system, (with a bigger fuel pump and injectors with modified fuel lines to mate up to the new fuel rail) be able to handle 600HP ish ? That wouldnt be a stock fuel system anymore haha but that should work for 600

Final question.

Are you running for president? Anyone who can tackle the complications and hiccups involved with this build can easily run a country.

again a big

[Spooled1.8]

Love the set up man, excited to see what you can pull off at the track. Maybe atleast 1 10sec pass before the end of the season?

[NYEuroTuner]

Justin did you ever re-install your sway bar? or did you modify your oil pan?

[wdbdy2000s4]

I know this thread talks about standalone but is that really the only option? My friend has a supercharged r32 motor in her A3 and she doesn't run standalone. The entire harness was revamped, but what is stopping s4 guys from wiring up a VR to use stock engine management?

[NYCVR6]

Justin did you ever re-install your sway bar? or did you modify your oil pan?

No sway bar, car drives fine.

[NYCVR6]

I know this thread talks about standalone but is that really the only option? My friend has a supercharged r32 motor in her A3 and she doesn't run standalone. The entire harness was revamped, but what is stopping s4 guys from wiring up a VR to use stock engine management?

For one, the 24v vr6 coil packs wont fit under the s4 hood... There would be other issues, i was discussing this with someone when people were mentioning they were going to try it.

[wdbdy2000s4]

edited because I'm retarded.

[Matador]

No such thing as 32v. Just 12v and 24v.

[wdbdy2000s4]

No such thing as 32v. Just 12v and 24v.

lol. I'm an idiot. I thought for some reason the r32 was a 32 valve. that isn't even possible on 6 cylinders.
I just know the r motor fits fine in the b5 chasis.

[NYCVR6]

lol. I'm an idiot. I thought for some reason the r32 was a 32 valve. that isn't even possible on 6 cylinders.
I just know the r motor fits fine in the b5 chasis.

R32 - 3.2 liter vr6 It's identical to the 28 24v vr6 besides bore and the head.. Those coil packs would hit the hood as well.

[wdbdy2000s4]

not an s4 but the 2 door 8L a3 has a platform very similar to the US TT:



I can't imagine this bay is bigger than the s4 bay. I'll see what they did for mounts though.

[NYCVR6]

not an s4 but the 2 door 8L a3 has a platform very similar to the US TT:



I can't imagine this bay is bigger than the s4 bay. I'll see what they did for mounts though.

The motor is sitting the opposite way in that car.. There is no way to get it to sit that low in the s4, the oil pan hits the subframe and you would have to lower the transmission angle too much.

[wdbdy2000s4]

thankyou. that is all.
AZgods won't let me +rep you anymore

[NYCVR6]

thankyou. that is all.
AZgods won't let me +rep you anymore

That's a cool swap there though... My guess is that car is running the R32 trans with a custom driveshaft.