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    Phil (fly300kts), is absolutely an amazing talent that no one should pass up on buying from. The pictures below do not begin to show the craftsmanship that goes into each pair of his LED strips. Everything from the aircraft-grade heat blanket, to the $300 per square foot plastic used to fabricate the strip, to the 100,000 hours rated LEDs themselves, are custom ordered from Germany and handmade by Phil. NO CHEAP EBAY SH*T HERE! These are an investment that will last, so don't waste your money anywhere else!

    I opted for the black housing with black strip so that the bulbs look as though they are "floating" in the housing when illuminated, and are barely noticeable when off. This was done by Phil free of charge along with clearing my corners and VAGing the turn signals. He was also generous enough to rewire my headlight switch so that my fogs run without the headlights on (the LEDs function as the city light from my halogen housing), again free of charge.

    Phil has some daytime shots he took earlier so you can see what the housing looks like up close that I think he will post, but here are some twilight/ almost nighttime pics.

    Again, the color in the pictures is WAY OFF. The LEDs are a VERY bright clean white light.... no yellow whatsoever.





    With Camera Flash On








    Already turned some heads on Ocean Dr on South Beach...



    And as a final note.... seriously consider buying Phil's LED TAILLIGHT kit. I saw them in person on his car today and they are soooooo bright and completely transform the look of the car.
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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    looks good to me. see if you can get a rolling video from far away. i can see s5's from way down the highway. im sure with yours it would be the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by b5s4tt View Post
    looks good to me. see if you can get a rolling video from far away. i can see s5's from way down the highway. im sure with yours it would be the same
    Will do... watching the LEBRONS dominate orlando right now. He is just a beast!
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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    car looks hott. are those the stock halogens with the LED strip or xenons?

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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    Looks almost OEM ; Fly's the man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nycxadge View Post
    car looks hott. are those the stock halogens with the LED strip or xenons?
    thanks .. stock halogen with hoen xenonmatch... fogs are also hoen. If i ever upgrade to xenon then Phil said he could transfer the strip for me no problem.
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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    the first pic is awesome.
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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    Thank you my Friend for the kind words. I am glad you love your new look...and take it easy on the South Beach girls
    You know now where I am so stop by anytime

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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    Quote Originally Posted by freeflow View Post
    Will do... watching the LEBRONS dominate orlando right now. He is just a beast!

    How did that game end?

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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    Quote Originally Posted by SLC_A4 View Post
    How did that game end?
    it ended with the LEBRONS down and hobbled and Orlando leaving with a WIN.

    ps. im waiting for my LED's too from Fly
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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    i would get them but there so expensive

    there led's first off . cheap as hell

    and if that stuff IS EVEN 300, one persons lights covers the cost of one square foot

    even if 1 car= 1/5 sq ft

    1500 dollars - 300 cost

    1200 for labor .

    for only 5 ppl's headlights

    and im sure it doesnt him take that long anymore

    the price will fall soon enough

    then ill get them




    no offense at all fly, just saying

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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    Quote Originally Posted by dblock110 View Post
    i would get them but there so expensive

    there led's first off . cheap as hell

    and if that stuff IS EVEN 300, one persons lights covers the cost of one square foot

    even if 1 car= 1/5 sq ft

    1500 dollars - 300 cost

    1200 for labor .

    for only 5 ppl's headlights

    and im sure it doesnt him take that long anymore

    the price will fall soon enough

    then ill get them




    no offense at all fly, just saying
    doubt it. high demand = no competition...why would they go down in price? that's basic economics there. he is the monopolizer of b7 a4 LEDs

    only thing with him though is that people are VERy satisfied with his products. there's already aftermarket housings there for the b7 a4 that look half decent/good..but people still ask Fly for his. just my opinion. keep doing your thing Phil
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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    Quote Originally Posted by dblock110 View Post
    i would get them but there so expensive

    there led's first off . cheap as hell
    and if that stuff IS EVEN 300, one persons lights covers the cost of one square foot even if 1 car= 1/5 sq ft 1500 dollars - 300 cost 1200 for labor.
    for only 5 ppl's headlights and im sure it doesnt him take that long anymore
    the price will fall soon enough then ill get them no offense at all fly, just saying
    Who the Fuc%^ you think you are Man? No offense, are you kidding?
    One thing is sure, I will never sell you one of my strips
    You don't know what you are talking about, sitting on your lazy ass in front of a keyboard, and writting this kind of crap.
    You can't even imagine the hours involved in this and project and since you seems to be that good, please show us what you are capable of.

    Can't beleive it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray-ray View Post
    doubt it. high demand = no competition...why would they go down in price? that's basic economics there. he is the monopolizer of b7 a4 LEDs

    only thing with him though is that people are VERy satisfied with his products. there's already aftermarket housings there for the b7 a4 that look half decent/good..but people still ask Fly for his. just my opinion. keep doing your thing Phil
    Hey Man,

    I received your set and starting to work on them today

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    Quote Originally Posted by SLC_A4 View Post
    How did that game end?
    lol... he was still amazing. i don't care for either team personally... just love seeing lebron become arguably the best player of all time. Superman's a beast tho too.
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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    Quote Originally Posted by dblock110 View Post
    i would get them but there so expensive

    there led's first off . cheap as hell

    and if that stuff IS EVEN 300, one persons lights covers the cost of one square foot

    even if 1 car= 1/5 sq ft

    1500 dollars - 300 cost

    1200 for labor .

    for only 5 ppl's headlights

    and im sure it doesnt him take that long anymore

    the price will fall soon enough

    then ill get them




    no offense at all fly, just saying

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    Quote Originally Posted by fly300kts View Post
    Who the Fuc%^ you think you are Man? No offense, are you kidding?
    One thing is sure, I will never sell you one of my strips
    You don't know what you are talking about, sitting on your lazy ass in front of a keyboard, and writting this kind of crap.
    You can't even imagine the hours involved in this and project and since you seems to be that good, please show us what you are capable of.

    Can't beleive it
    He doesn't deserve them Phil.... let him buy a cheaper strip or one of the depo's offline and we'll sit back and watch his lights fail within a year (or sooner).

    If you're gonna do a job, do it right. it's an investment.
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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    ^^^ +1 Bad show.... Phil is a standup guy and for the work/craftsmanship that has gone into these I bet he could sell them at double the price. Some people are just too rude : (

    On another note GO ORLANDO!!!!!!!! Lebron may be king but with a team of court jesters they cant beat Magic!
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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    you guys need to chill haha i was just saying that they are expensive. no, im not gonna buy any other headlights, or flys for that matter.

    but people need to realize that anything that is SOLD is sold for a profit.

    and fly

    didnt know someone could get so mad? lazy ass ? haah far from it. dont we all sit on a keyboard as we type on this forum? ur calling urself lazy as well

    i never said that my work is better so not sure why you said that

    but your post had no justification as to anything i said so i take it you need to stand up for yourself to make you customers feel like there not getting ripped off

    want to show me this 300/sq ft material your buying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dblock110 View Post
    you guys need to chill haha i was just saying that they are expensive. no, im not gonna buy any other headlights, or flys for that matter.

    but people need to realize that anything that is SOLD is sold for a profit.

    and fly

    didnt know someone could get so mad? lazy ass ? haah far from it. dont we all sit on a keyboard as we type on this forum? ur calling urself lazy as well

    i never said that my work is better so not sure why you said that

    but your post had no justification as to anything i said so i take it you need to stand up for yourself to make you customers feel like there not getting ripped off

    want to show me this 300/sq ft material your buying?
    its obvious there is a mark up in his product....why do you keep trying to rain in on his parade?

    ever hear of Monster cable? Dynamat? check out their product mark ups. Personally theres a lot of people here who pay to have things done for quality work, along with customer service backing up their product which is what Fly is doing.
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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    i love how the headlights look tho as i've stated in other threads before, just not sure why people get so defensive when someone criticizes the price aspect of his "product".

    i was trying to find out WHY they were so expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dblock110 View Post
    i love how the headlights look tho as i've stated in other threads before, just not sure why people get so defensive when someone criticizes the price aspect of his "product".

    i was trying to find out WHY they were so expensive.
    well its probably because stuff like that isn't really your business... people aren't getting defensive, at least not me. im just wondering why you are so meddlesome into his business. If you know a cheaper route, more power to you

    the people on this forum who have bought though don't feel its too much, and they are happy. he buys the stuff, does the work. you are right, parts are probably cheap when bought in bulk(though im not sure how cheap nor do i care), but its labor people pay for. it takes time to do what he does, and that's why there is a mark up. if i did this on the side and took time out of my personal day, then i would have a decent mark up as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dblock110 View Post
    i love how the headlights look tho as i've stated in other threads before, just not sure why people get so defensive when someone criticizes the price aspect of his "product".

    i was trying to find out WHY they were so expensive.
    Criticism is really easy behind a keyboard and I repeat, especially when you don't know what you are talking about.
    So long..... got some strips to build

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    once again . not providing any insight into the price / $300/sq ft material

    w.e . im done

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    Quote Originally Posted by dblock110 View Post
    once again . not providing any insight into the price / $300/sq ft material

    w.e . im done
    how much materials in piping/cores do you think it costs to make a 1200 intercooler?

    how about an exhaust? piping/mufflers/flanges? does it cost 1200 to make an exhaust?

    how about an intake for a car? its a pipe/filter/and heat shield. materials probably at bulk cost 30 bucks total at most...and are sold for 300-350.

    its a business...its a profit. i don't know Fly, but i don't get why u have the need to find out why he needs to justify his costs. you should go call out AWE/GSG/Stasis/ER and all other companies too while you're at it.

    my point is no business needs to justify their costs to any consumer. the products speak for them selves as far as final results.
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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    I purchased the LED strips from fly and I am 100% happy. Phil was very helpful and provided all the information I needed to install them myself. Thanks for your hard work Phil,
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    Hey man first of all car looks awesome and do you go to miami yet or are you gonna be there next year cause I havent seen your car on campus....either way its nice to have another audi on campus
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    Quote Originally Posted by dblock110 View Post
    once again . not providing any insight into the price / $300/sq ft material

    w.e . im done

    not sure what your intention is...but seems like you've been drinking a little bit of this
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    Quote Originally Posted by dblock110 View Post
    once again . not providing any insight into the price / $300/sq ft material

    w.e . im done
    You need insight for what? Try to duplicate what I am doing? If you want an invoice about the material I use, shoot me a PM and I'll be glad to share
    I am done with your crap as well

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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    would like to see some daytime pics.

    is it noticable under day time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dblock110 View Post
    once again . not providing any insight into the price / $300/sq ft material

    w.e . im done
    Did your parents buy you your Audi? I don't see how you could have ever gotten a job. What Fly is doing is very very basic business. He is the only one supplying the product, he is the one that created and did all of the R&D. And best of all people are paying what he is asking, myself going to be one of them soon. I personally think he could be charging more. But I live in Alaska where every single thing is expensive.

    A little on the flip side of that, is my personal feeling that anyone that creates a product and/or service should be able to answer why they charge what they charge. But that should also be a PRIVATE conversation. My business charges 20-30% more then the competition. And we OWN the market. I get asked all the time why we charge more. Our product, service, warranty, class of technicians are just flat out better.

    Sorry for being so long, just when I get started on this topic it is hard to stop:)

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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

    Good looking work Phil! Saw your wife driving the car on coral ridge the other day. Looks awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinscap View Post
    Good looking work Phil! Saw your wife driving the car on coral ridge the other day. Looks awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNB7 View Post
    Hey man first of all car looks awesome and do you go to miami yet or are you gonna be there next year cause I havent seen your car on campus....either way its nice to have another audi on campus
    I just graduated a couple weeks ago... had an amazing four years here tho. And will be around for a while longer just not sure how long

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    Quote Originally Posted by eha8 View Post
    would like to see some daytime pics.

    is it noticable under day time?
    I'll post some later... maybe with a rolling video if i can borrow my buddy's video camera. But yes, they're noticeable The 2nd picture in the OP was meant to simulate direct light from the camera flash being on
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    Re: Fly's LED Headlights - Another VERY satisfied customer

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    Welcome to Fly's LED club
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    Quote Originally Posted by ray-ray View Post

    my point is no business needs to justify their costs to any consumer. the products speak for them selves as far as final results.
    I agree with you that it is a business and he is attempting to make a profit with which there is nothing wrong. Furthermore I agree that he has an increased time value for his labor as he possesses a product that is unrivaled currently. BUT as an actual economist holding a PHD in financial analysis economics i can tell you that all companies provide reports for free to their customers with a break down of costs, expenditures, and profit. I am not saying whoever that guy is that is criticizing Fly is correct in the manner about which he attempted to obtain this information, but a customer is completely in the right to ask a seller why their prices are what they are. IF the seller decides to not give out that information it is up to the consumer to decide whether or not they need to purchase that product. Im not saying fly has to post his breakdown for the world to see but, i am saying he will put much more confidence in his product if he provides the information and leaves it up to the consumer to decide. Full information is the god of all that is economics and business. Honest open business make more every time than secretive companies (assuming of course there is a market for the product)

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