Cool VAG-COM codes

[cory_can]

i'm running bootcamp on my mac and my vag works.

bootcamp isn't a virtual machine like Parallels and Fusion, it's a completely separate bootable partition/image similar to just booting up windoze on any PC hardware.

[joseaudi]

Got an s4 and the whole rear taillights along with the thin strip undeneath the regular LEDs light up with turn signals and braking. ID like to set it up like the euro model that only lights up the thin strip at the bottom with turn signals and leaves the rest of he LEDs to light up with braking.

[xileh]

Been trying to code a bit now. But I'm trying to change the DRL to a setting I don't think is possible.
Hehe is a pictures I would like the DRL to be like. Anyone know if this is possible?
Leds off and turnlights on:

[B_Boy]

the guy that did my vag said it is possible, but i told him to leave it the way it is.

[sakimano]

Does this mean that you can use the latest Ross Tech VCDS software version 908.0??

And when you go into a unit, you get the text for the bits that are known what they stands for??

it doesn't use the MOST up to date...it uses a beta. 904 or 905 sounds familiar, but that's a total guess.

yes, it's a full functional VAG-COM VCDS unit. Not sure why so much confusion over this...!

[JasonR]

Been trying to code a bit now. But I'm trying to change the DRL to a setting I don't think is possible.
Hehe is a pictures I would like the DRL to be like. Anyone know if this is possible?
Leds off and turnlights on:

My VCDS 805.2 doesn't show an obvious option for this. In 09 - Central Electronics > Long Coding, I have:

• Bit 1 Daytime Running Lights via Front Side Marker Lights active
• Bit 2 Daytime Running Lights via High Beams active
• Bit 3 Daytime Running Lights via Fog Flights [sic] active
• Bit 4 Daytime Running Lights via DRL active
  
• Bit 6 Daytime Running Lights via Side Marker Lights aktiv [sic]
• Bit 7 Daytime Running Lights via Tail Lights active

My best guess would be to check out Bit 5 and see what that does. I have no idea how dangerous it is to play with unknown settings, so I'd rather not attempt that on my car.

[xileh]

My VCDS 805.2 doesn't show an obvious option for this. In 09 - Central Electronics > Long Coding, I have:

• Bit 1 Daytime Running Lights via Front Side Marker Lights active
• Bit 2 Daytime Running Lights via High Beams active
• Bit 3 Daytime Running Lights via Fog Flights [sic] active
• Bit 4 Daytime Running Lights via DRL active
  
• Bit 6 Daytime Running Lights via Side Marker Lights aktiv [sic]
• Bit 7 Daytime Running Lights via Tail Lights active

My best guess would be to check out Bit 5 and see what that does. I have no idea how dangerous it is to play with unknown settings, so I'd rather not attempt that on my car.

This is what I get also.
What is difference between these two? Nothing happens when I tried it. Guess I have to have the US lights for theese to work?

• Bit 6 Daytime Running Lights via Side Marker Lights aktiv [sic]
• Bit 1 Daytime Running Lights via Front Side Marker Lights active

[JasonR]

This is what I get also.
What is difference between these two? Nothing happens when I tried it. Guess I have to have the US lights for theese to work?

• Bit 6 Daytime Running Lights via Side Marker Lights aktiv [sic]
• Bit 1 Daytime Running Lights via Front Side Marker Lights active

Yup - those won't work for you as they activate bulbs that aren't installed in your car.

[B8_Jim]

So in Instruments (17), Coding, Long coding helper -- Byte 10, Bit 0 is :

Brake pad wear warning active

Mine is not checked -- which would mean this is not active, right?

Do the US B8's not have pad wear indicators that will tell you when you need new pads? My B5 had this feature... Have not looked closely at the pads to see if there are wires for this ...

[JasonR]

So in Instruments (17), Coding, Long coding helper -- Byte 10, Bit 0 is :

Brake pad wear warning active

Mine is not checked -- which would mean this is not active, right?

Do the US B8's not have pad wear indicators that will tell you when you need new pads? My B5 had this feature... Have not looked closely at the pads to see if there are wires for this ...

That's probably correct. I noticed the same thing - not checked. It's possible that Ross-Tech got the wording backwards. They've done that in other places where the wording should be "enable" and it's accidentally "disable", or vice-versa. I'd imagine an Audi tech would know if the car has brake wear sensors or not in our market.

[scottyuk]

I've not noticed this but I have noticed one somewhere which is to indicate whether there are rear brake pad sensors.

I wonder if this is one and the same?

[sakimano]

That's probably correct. I noticed the same thing - not checked. It's possible that Ross-Tech got the wording backwards. They've done that in other places where the wording should be "enable" and it's accidentally "disable", or vice-versa. I'd imagine an Audi tech would know if the car has brake wear sensors or not in our market.

I CHECKED that thinking it was missed in error somehow, or that I accidentally un-checked it.

any consensus on what we should do?

[B8_Jim]

I CHECKED that thinking it was missed in error somehow, or that I accidentally un-checked it.

any consensus on what we should do?

I'm planning to rotate my tires and give the wheels a fresh coat of wax while they are off this weekend -- will give the pads a good look to see if they have sensor wires or not and report back.

[Uwe]

it uses VagCom. VCDS.

Bragging on a public forum that you're using a pirated version of our product -- brilliant.

for the casual user who is doing a couple of convenience mods, ROSS-TECH should offer a $50 solution.

Since I live only a 1/4 mile from work and won't use the car much, Audi should offer me an S8 for $10k, right?

These copies are the market's way of telling Ross-Tech that the product is WAY overpriced (for that casual user).

It is always cheaper to simply copy something than to develop it in the first place. That's why this such piracy is illegal -- to try to ensure that people like us can actually make a living developing something.

-Uwe-

[hender]

Yes but alternatively there are usually consumer and business licenses of a product / software.

If a tuning shop wants to buy the product and make VAG-Com changes for a profit, sell them it a whopping $250. But as a But to make my DRL stay on, I don't--and won't--pay $250. Have a limited-function release to sell for $50 and I'll be there. I'd rather give my money to a NA business than some guy in China (being in the manufacturing industry I feel your pain) but at the same time, but $250 is out to lunch for software that alters pre-existing codes.

No disrespect to you and your efforts, but it's just lots of money for most people.

[eboosted]

Uwe, isn't it possible to just make a built in dongle so your sw could only work on the original interface?, on the other hand why do you still keep older vag-com versions on your site to support copycat interfaces?

[B8_Jim]

<snip> but $250 is out to lunch for software that alters pre-existing codes.

My point of view on this is that the cost is reasonable for the development of HW and SW that allows these changes. Audi charges $300 for the Ipod interface and I'd be willing to bet that Ipod interfaces on the A4 (and Q5 and A3 and ...) is WAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYY higher volume than VCDS cables -- thus the development cost is easier to recoup. Plus this enables the continual development and improvement of the product...

It's a 32k+ car... most are way beyond that - $250 is less than .8%...

Just my opinion...

[scottyuk]

I wonder if this other company run their own knowledge database and post on forums to genuinely help people out who are stuck?

errrm let me take a guess ?

Support those who support you.

I won't be posting any helpful tips for anyone that's gone down that route.

[hender]

Plus this enables the continual development and improvement of the product...

That I'll agree with. If this is all these guys do then they have to make a living.

I won't be posting any helpful tips for anyone that's gone down that route.

lol

[Uwe]

Have a limited-function release to sell for $50 and I'll be there. I'd rather give my money to a NA business than some guy in China (being in the manufacturing industry I feel your pain)

As we do not have our stuff made in in the far east, it's literally impossible to sell interfaces for $50 and make a profit.

but $250 is out to lunch for software that alters pre-existing codes.

If you think it can be done at profitably at $50, why don't you write you own software to do this?

No disrespect to you and your efforts, but it's just lots of money for most people.

If $250 is "lots of money" WTF are you doing driving a 2010 Audi A4?

-Uwe-

[Uwe]

Uwe, isn't it possible to just make a built in dongle so your sw could only work on the original interface?

Indeed, that's what we've done since version 5xx -- it only works with interfaces that have our proprietary firmware and digital signatures in them. Unfortunately, the Chinese legal system is too byzantine to for us to be able to shut down the companies making illegal copies of them.

on the other hand why do you still keep older vag-com versions on your site to support copycat interfaces?

As a concession to those VW/Audi drivers with 2004 and earlier cars, who can plausibly say that $250 is a lot of money. The older versions that are available on our site work with "dumb" interfaces which can be produced legally (i.e. without incorporating exact copies of our firmware and digital signatures). However, those old versions won't work on a B8 at all.

-Uwe-

[hender]

As we do not have our stuff made in in the far east, it's literally impossible to sell interfaces for $50 and make a profit.

Man...those plastic housings for your cables do NOT need your name and part number on them. Order those things for PENNIES & throw a sticker on them instead.
comparison: I work for a stainless steel manufacturer; we've gotten hit hard by the recession, but have managed to stay open. while minuscule, take the example that we no longer buy packing tape that has our name and logo all over it. You can cut down on operating / production costs while keeping the integrity of your actual product unscathed.
I'll send an invoice your way.

If you think it can be done at profitably at $50, why don't you write you own software to do this?

I only took a minor in computer science

Otherwise, nice response. Why don't you go build a model plane and fly a hamster around in it? Because it doesn't interest you? I see.

plus I have an OK job already. McDonald's offers great benefits, so it was hard to turn them down.

If $250 is "lots of money" WTF are you doing driving a 2010 Audi A4?

-Uwe-

25-year financing with $0 down.

[sakimano]

Since I live only a 1/4 mile from work and won't use the car much, Audi should offer me an S8 for $10k, right?

thanks for the note. You're implying that I'm asking for the S8 of Ross-Tech cables...I'm not. S8 is Audi's top of the line sedan offering, and it costs about $150,000. I'm asking for the A1 1.4 TDI of Vag-Com Cables...a $30,000 Audi. I just want convenience module and basic stuff. See the connection?

I think the real problem is that an engineer (Uwe) is running the marketing and public relations for his company. That rarely goes well (just as letting a marketing person run the engineering never goes well).

As a business person, you have decided to focus on the $250+ crowd...and have decided to let someone else look after the sub $250 crowd. Someone is doing so. I think your beef is with them, not the end users. Record companies attacked Napster when people made it clear that buying a $15 CD when you only want 4 songs was stupid. Napster was stopped, but eventually the record companies changed how they did business, because Napster forced them to hear the customer.

Implying that we should be able to pay $250...350...450 for something just because we have the financial ability (if you can't afford $250, WTF do you have a 2010 Audi A4 for?) is very poor marketing/public relations. Again...engineer marketing. I could have paid $125,000 for my 2009 A4. Just because I can doesn't mean Audi will charge that...and if they did...doesn't mean the market would pay it!

[snagitseven]

Here's a somewhat obscure Vag-Com question. My '09 B8 will activate three turn signal flashes automatically when I tap once on the direction signal lever (L or R). Very handy for lane changes. Is there any way to change the flashers to activate 4 or more with my Vag-Com?

[rlarsen]

DIS with Efficiency Program for MY2010+ (Not a complete Program without the Start/Stop System):

[17 - Instruments]
[Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 77
change 0 to 255

[DeMOROlized]

DIS with Efficiency Program for MY2010+ (Not a complete Program without the Start/Stop System):

[17 - Instruments]
[Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 77
change 0 to 255

Call me a n00b, but what is the Efficiency Program?

[scottyuk]

I think it's the system on the latest European cars. It has Start Stop technology that automatically turns the engine off at a stand still plus energy recoupeation from the braking system. It also includes another set of screens in the DIS which show a full screen gear recommendation/various mpg screens and a screen of what accessories is consuming most fuel/hour which is generally the A/C.

In the UK it's only on manual cars with 2.0T petrol and 2.0TDI from MY2010.

[rlarsen]

I think it's the system on the latest European cars. It has Start Stop technology that automatically turns the engine off at a stand still plus energy recoupeation from the braking system. It also includes another set of screens in the DIS which show a full screen gear recommendation/various mpg screens and a screen of what accessories is consuming most fuel/hour which is generally the A/C.

In the UK it's only on manual cars with 2.0T petrol and 2.0TDI from MY2010.

Yes, and the DIS showing can be activated without having start/stop technology - also on a S4 or S5.

[B8_Jim]

I CHECKED that thinking it was missed in error somehow, or that I accidentally un-checked it.

any consensus on what we should do?

In refrence to the "Brake pad wear warning active" ( [17 - Instruments] -> Coding -> Long Coding Helper -> Byte 10, Bit 0 )

The front pads do have a wear indicator sensor wire -- see attached pic (this is the back center of the drivers caliper -- sorry for the quality). The rear pads do not have sensor wires -- or at least not readily visible ones. Maybe the Elecro-Mech parking break has a position sensor that can figure out if the pads are too thin?

Still not sure what to do about this setting in VCDS -- If this is what Scotty_UK suggested -- rear pad sensors -- unchecked would be the proper setting. I enabled it to see what would happen -- didn't get any warning etc -- disabled it again.

Anyone had any kind of pad warning on their B8 yet? If so any that were related to rear pads? -- I'm only at 5,000 miles and have a long time before I'll have to worry about this...

[JasonR]

DIS with Efficiency Program for MY2010+ (Not a complete Program without the Start/Stop System):

[17 - Instruments]
[Adaptation - 10] -> Channel 77
change 0 to 255

Can you confirm that it's channel 77? I get an error that this channel is not available. Some other channels read okay, but not this one.

[rlarsen]

Do you have a MY2010 ??

Can you confirm that it's channel 77? I get an error that this channel is not available. Some other channels read okay, but not this one.

[JasonR]

Do you have a MY2010 ??

No... I probably should have read more closely. Well, at least I can confirm that this does not work on an '09.

[packard]

No... I probably should have read more closely. Well, at least I can confirm that this does not work on an '09.

I vag my buddies 2005 GLI and got the same error. What is 77? He is chipped.

[truehye89]

I don't care what anyone here says or believes, I can confirm there are "china cables" that you can get for as cheap as $30 (as I did) that work EXACTLY the same way as the Ross Tech cable. (HEX-USB+CAN)

They even come with a CD with a fully registered, and latest version of VCDS. When you plug the cable into a laptop, it is seen as an original Ross Tech cable.

CAN/CANBUS full support, no problems whatsoever.

I did all the mods on my B8 A4 with this cable and it was a breeze.

No way in hell am I going to spend $350 for a cable.

[hamradiolocator]

Removing Seatbelt Chime

[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
[Coding - 07]
[Long Coding Helper]
Click on each of the Byte numbers in step 3) and you'll see the selectable options below.
Uncheck the box for "Seatbelt Warning active"
[Do It!]

Enabling Gauge Test/Needle Sweep
This will sweep the gauge needles through their full range automatically when you start the engine.

[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
[Coding - 07]
[Long Coding Helper]
Click on each of the Byte numbers in step 3) and you'll see the selectable options below.
Check the box for "Gauge Test/Needle Sweep active"
[Do It!]

Enabling Lap Timer

[Select]
[17 - Instruments]
[Coding - 07]
[Long Coding Helper]
Click on each of the Byte numbers in step 3) and you'll see the selectable options below.
Check the box for "Lap Timer active"
[Do It!]

Operating Windows and Sunroof with Remote
(Note, the sunroof cannot be opened with the remote)
You need to continuously hold the remote button for the function to operate.

[Select]
[46 - Cent. Conv.]
[Coding - 07]
[Long Coding Helper]
Click on each of the Byte numbers in line 3) and you'll see the selectable options below.
Check the box for "Comfort Operation: Remote Control active"
[Transfer Coding]
[Do It!]

Thanks for all these steps..

[rlarsen]

If you look at the A4 wiki you'll find - hopefully - the complete VCDS code collection, that has been talked about in the thread.

[altecdell]

it doesn't use the MOST up to date...it uses a beta. 904 or 905 sounds familiar, but that's a total guess.

yes, it's a full functional VAG-COM VCDS unit. Not sure why so much confusion over this...!

Did you have any issues when you first connected everything and hit the Test button? I'm having trouble with the "Interface Not Found" issue. Thx!

[Alkivar]

I don't care what anyone here says or believes, I can confirm there are "china cables" that you can get for as cheap as $30 (as I did) that work EXACTLY the same way as the Ross Tech cable. (HEX-USB+CAN)

They even come with a CD with a fully registered, and latest version of VCDS. When you plug the cable into a laptop, it is seen as an original Ross Tech cable.

CAN/CANBUS full support, no problems whatsoever.

I did all the mods on my B8 A4 with this cable and it was a breeze.

No way in hell am I going to spend $350 for a cable.

you got lucky, i blew 50$ on a china cable that didnt work on my A5... so i sucked it up and paid the 350 for the real deal from Ross Tech... already made back about 50-60$ worth of the cost doing mods for other people at shows.

[scottyuk]

you got lucky, i blew 50$ on a china cable that didnt work on my A5... so i sucked it up and paid the 350 for the real deal from Ross Tech... already made back about 50-60$ worth of the cost doing mods for other people at shows.

I should really learn a lesson! I've been doing this for people for 8 years. Until tonight, all I'd ever got was a Big Mac meal and a four pack. Tonight I helped a guy out and my total income has gone up by a decent rucksack.

I think £10 a go would help

[altecdell]

Ok. After much trial and error, got the china cable working. Had to set PC date back to Jan/09 as per instructions. Everything worked perfectly from there on. Used Parallels on Mac. Did all the typical coding plus video in motion. Awesome!