Ls1 in an audi

[Collin]

has anyone done it?

My brother and I swapped one into his 1978 jeep cj7, another friend put one in an RX7 and runs 9's in the 1/4.

Anyone do it to an audi?

Reason I ask is because I saw a thread where someone is into a 2.0 build for 23k. Full ls1 engine tranny and all the other parts would be no more than 5k.

[dfwhockey17]

not sure about the audi, i have seen it done in an RX7 as well. I was also told the other day about an M3 that had a 427 swapped in to it.

[Collin]

as much as people bag on it, its a great motor and makes tons of power while still weighing very little.

[ConroeS4]

We are talking about Audis here, not hondas.

[02silverb6]

We are talking about Audis here, not hondas.

LMAO. Dude LS1 is not a honda

[QTC]

Yeah, the motor and trans is only $5k, but then there's all the "R&D" into making it fit, and then running a stand alone system to actually make it run. But anything is possible if you have the time, money, effort, and creativity. Just don't expect to be able to drop an LS1 into an Audi for $5k

[absolutegtr]

as much as people bag on it, its a great motor and makes tons of power while still weighing very little.

I am the person that HATES the LS1. Just because of the fact that it is a cookie cutter motor.

But in the same respect, I know how much power they can make for a few thousand dollars. I live in the South....my friends and their grandmas have Ls1;s in their camaros and mustangs, and trucks and damn everything.

If you google it, someone makes an adaptor plate to bolt the LS1 up to the 01E transmission, but making that amount of torque.HP on a modified LS1, it is NOT advised to run an adaptor plate.

With that said, you could always hack away at the secondary firewall/partition and set the engine/tranny back back and run it straight RWD.

I have given this ALOT of though BTW...

[Collin]

If you have any mechanical knowledge it is not too difficult. They have been put in BMW's and I doubt they are that much further up the technological ladder as audi.

[ConroeS4]

LMAO. Dude LS1 is not a honda

I know this, it's chevy, but motor swaps in an Audi, come one.

[Collin]

That's my only real complaint on my car is the lack of power...If everything was the same + 200hp I would be stoked.

[QTC]

That's my only real complaint on my car is the lack of power...If everything was the same + 200hp I would be stoked.

So why not drop in a 4.2 and 6-speed?

[02silverb6]

I know this, it's chevy, but motor swaps in an Audi, come one.

I plan on dropping a built 4.2 6spd in my car when the funds permit, whats so honda about that?

[absolutegtr]

Yeah, the motor and trans is only $5k, but then there's all the "R&D" into making it fit, and then running a stand alone system to actually make it run. But anything is possible if you have the time, money, effort, and creativity. Just don't expect to be able to drop an LS1 into an Audi for $5k

HA! I can get my hand on a long block (minus some accessoried) LS1 for $250....built trans for $1500.

Those bitches are CHEAP

[Collin]

So why not drop in a 4.2 and 6-speed?

ls1 is most likely cheaper and definitely more reliable andmuch more power for much less money.

[B6Lovin]

^i think it's just the notion of an american motor (which is very "cookie cutter" as sami put it) into a german machine that bothers most people.

would it be cool to see? sure, i'd like to fuck around with a RWD LS1 a4... im sure it'd be fun as hell to go do donuts in or slide around in some...

would i want to own it and drive it around? fuck no.... if i wanted a LS1 or "just" a fast car for that matter, I would have STARTED with a vette, evo, cobra, etc. (i hate all but 1st gen camaros... sorry)

besides, it's fun to shit on 99% of the LS-powered cars that I run into on a daily basis with my "little ol' 1.8 liter engine.." hahahahaha

[B6Lovin]

So why not drop in a 4.2 and 6-speed?

why not just buy a s4?

[Collin]

^i think it's just the notion of an american motor (which is very "cookie cutter" as sami put it) into a german machine that bothers most people.

would it be cool to see? sure, i'd like to fuck around with a RWD LS1 a4... im sure it'd be fun as hell to go do donuts in or slide around in some...

would i want to own it and drive it around? fuck no.... if i wanted a LS1 or "just" a fast car for that matter, I would have STARTED with a vette, evo, cobra, etc. (i hate all but 1st gen camaros... sorry)

besides, it's fun to shit on 99% of the LS-powered cars that I run into on a daily basis with my "little ol' 1.8 liter engine.." hahahahaha

I wouldn't count on shitting on a lot of ls1 cars with 334 ponies.

[4Rings3Liters]

Please go buy another vehicle and do this.

[Collin]

Please go buy another vehicle and do this.

why? would I disgrace the 7 year old audi by putting in a more powerful more reliable motor?

[QTC]

ls1 is most likely cheaper and definitely more reliable andmuch more power for much less money.

Yeah but you need to consider the power per dollar ratio. While an LS1 might be cheaper in the beginning (although I think it would end up being about the same as a 4.2), it will be tougher to fit, bolt up, and work with the Audi running gear than the 4.2 will. Where the 4.2 might cost $6k and another $2k for assorted parts and a stand alone system, the LS1 might cost $5k and then another $5k getting it to fit and run. So for $8k you'd have 340hp, and for $10k you'd have 375-400hp (not sure what the LS1's put out). So the 4.2 would be $23.50/hp and the LS1 would be $26.60/hp. So is it worth spending the extra $3k+ for an extra 50 hp?

BTW, I'm not attacking your idea, just playing devils advocate.

[Auburnsky1287]

You've got a fronttrak amirite? Because you shot yourself in the foot for that one.....

[absolutegtr]

Please go buy another vehicle and do this.

Why have this purist mentallity? Its not like we are swapping out a great motor to put in a worse motor....lol, the 1.8 isnt much.

If we were swapping out a S motor (whether it be the 2.7t or 4.2, than thats different)

There needs to be people to push the envelope on our cars...

[absolutegtr]

Yeah but you need to consider the power per dollar ratio. While an LS1 might be cheaper in the beginning (although I think it would end up being about the same as a 4.2), it will be tougher to fit, bolt up, and work with the Audi running gear than the 4.2 will. Where the 4.2 might cost $6k and another $2k for assorted parts and a stand alone system, the LS1 might cost $5k and then another $5k getting it to fit and run. So for $8k you'd have 340hp, and for $10k you'd have 375-400hp (not sure what the LS1's put out). So the 4.2 would be $23.50/hp and the LS1 would be $26.60/hp. So is it worth spending the extra $3k+ for an extra 50 hp?

BTW, I'm not attacking your idea, just playing devils advocate.

Throw in a $300 cam and some big boy heads (AFR) for like $3K and your putting down over 420RWHP

[Collin]

Yeah but you need to consider the power per dollar ratio. While an LS1 might be cheaper in the beginning (although I think it would end up being about the same as a 4.2), it will be tougher to fit, bolt up, and work with the Audi running gear than the 4.2 will. Where the 4.2 might cost $6k and another $2k for assorted parts and a stand alone system, the LS1 might cost $5k and then another $5k getting it to fit and run. So for $8k you'd have 340hp, and for $10k you'd have 375-400hp (not sure what the LS1's put out). So the 4.2 would be $23.50/hp and the LS1 would be $26.60/hp. So is it worth spending the extra $3k+ for an extra 50 hp?

BTW, I'm not attacking your idea, just playing devils advocate.

FYI I am not considering doing this, I am seeing if it has been done and i think it would be pretty cool.

I had a 1998 Camaro SS with bolt ons and a mild (CA legal) cam and dynoed 350hp and 373tq at the wheels with no tuning. It ran 12.33 @113 and weighs close to what my A4 weighs.

I just think it would be badass to have a 350+ hp rear wheel drive audi that still rides and handles like a stock audi. The reason I mentioned LS1 is because its cheap reliable HP and great for a swap.

[Collin]

I should also mention with the cam and all the mods I had on my 1998 SS I pulled 28.8mpg on the way to vegas going 80-90mph...

[B6Lovin]

I wouldn't count on shitting on a lot of ls1 cars with 334 ponies.

i make more than that now - and if you don't believe me you can go ahead and find a nice little head/cam camaro to come try and fuck with me.... it wouldn't be the first

<tone = indifferent, im tired of the import/domestic b.s.>

FWIW - my attitude towards it all is that if a car is fast, it's fast... how it makes that power is what interests me, because there's a lot of ways to solve the same equation... air+fuel=power

and on that same note - I do heavily enjoy the fact that i've solved the air/fuel equation with an engine that displaces less soda than the average american seems to drink every day. lol

I'm no stranger or hater of "no replacement for displacement" because it's simply fact... but to your comment earlier-- YES. i do shit on 99% of the LS powered cars that I come across on a daily basis. I don't care if it's a vette, 240, camaro, firebird, stock, modded, mild, or wild - I have my fun no matter what - and keep a pretty good win/loss record the whole while

[Collin]

have you run with current mods? Current dyno?

[4Rings3Liters]

Why have this purist mentallity? Its not like we are swapping out a great motor to put in a worse motor....lol, the 1.8 isnt much.

If we were swapping out a S motor (whether it be the 2.7t or 4.2, than thats different)

There needs to be people to push the envelope on our cars...

Sorry, I just hate cross-manufacturer swaps.

[B6Lovin]

have you run with current mods? Current dyno?

nah, not yet. nowhere with official #'s anyways. the 338awhp was with a 3071 @ 21 psi i believe... im on a 3076 @ ~23/24 psi now, looking to get that a little higher with some more fuel before the end of summer. gonna try (keyword all you haters... ) and get mid 400's on pump gas. (i'm quattro btw)

Sorry, I just hate cross-manufacturer swaps.

ditto (most of the time anyways)

[Turb_Oh_A4]

Drop the nuts buddy!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...-740_84833.htm

[4Rings3Liters]

Drop the nuts buddy!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...-740_84833.htm

Dug is a friend of mine. He lives right down the street from me.

[Maverick]

why not just buy a s4?

banks won't lend out money, tough economy

it's easy to say swap the motor in.
then what software are you going to run? do you know a tuner who can flash the LS1 tune into our ECU which is way more sophisticated than almost all other ECU?

[Collin]

nah, not yet. nowhere with official #'s anyways. the 338awhp was with a 3071 @ 21 psi i believe... im on a 3076 @ ~23/24 psi now, looking to get that a little higher with some more fuel before the end of summer. gonna try (keyword all you haters... ) and get mid 400's on pump gas. (i'm quattro btw)



ditto (most of the time anyways)

quattro makes a big difference. Impressive numbers.

[adam_a4]

2JZGTE

[03 silverbullet]

DO IT

[A4ringedONE8T]

Do it, and I'll still spank you with an Audi 4cyl

[rxrep]

go ahead and find a nice little head/cam camaro to come try and fuck with me.... it wouldn't be the first

Ditto. I've rather build what I got. It's more fun to beat up on American "muscle" and then let them know you're a 4 cylinder. It pisses them off so bad.
I just don't think the sound of an LS1 matches the look of an Audi. The 4.2 sounds so much different and works for the car. But you're limited on power unless you can squeeze the bi-turbo in.

[CyberPMG]

I don't think there's enough room for the LS1 to fit in the engine bay without serious fabrications. It was hard enough for Audi to get the 4.2 V8 to fit that they had to relocate the timing chain (and a few other things) in order to make it work.

[rxrep]

If they can fit it in a Miata, they can fit it in an Audi. I just wouldn't know why anyone would try.

[shoothepress]

Sorry, I just hate cross-manufacturer swaps.

x3.