My Project.. Has begun, and were is going...

[Papa Stone]

I decided to put my project up in the forums.. here are some pics on how it begun




Then this started








So Here We are



work done
1. Full Bilstein suspencion
2. Full Paint job
3. New Roof lining
4. full bodykit..S4
5. New Rims
6. 5 speed conversion (it was tip when I bought it..)

I was going to go with this but!!

But currently Next Stage:

1. VR6 Turbo kit with 034 motorsport engine mounts, tranny adapter, and clutch kit.. (looking for 500whp with a GT35R)

On the works...BUHAAAA!!!
2. Porsche 996 buckets (painted GT3 orange to match ) with no rear seats(let others get their own ride;))
3. Brembo Brake kit (made by us) with 13.7 brake disk "front only"

4. 034 motorsport ecu running parallel with stock ECU to power up the display

Enjoy the pics, and feel free to comment.. I will put more pics, and more comments and the months go along with the built

[JumboBlack1.8]

Hot daaammn. This is quite the project, my friend. So far it looks like you've made some EXCELLENT choice (particularly the color.....GT3 orange is SO sexy), and the VR6 option is obviously a great choice. I just love the fact that all this work is going into an avant! FINALLY we have an avant in the project forum!!!

You are def reppin the Euro wagons properly. Well done man, and post LOTS of pics of your progress

[Euro-Tuner]

very jealous!

interior trim looks amazing!
can't wait to see some updates when you start the engine build!

[Papa Stone]

I actually had the chance to buy a S4 Stage III in Nogaro blue and I turn it down because of this came along. I always wanted a Avant for a project but couldn't find one. So when it came along (even with all the work that had to be done) I grab it..

So I got to do what I want, with what I wanted.. Hope you enjoy this trip

[pnuttaudi]

that shit looks sexy

[ChumbaWumba]

omfg...subscribed

[Stone825]

subscribed.

take off that S4 badge though especially cause you are going to have a VR6 in it now.

[Ads4]

Love the colour :)

Any more info on the smoked reare light clusters?

[Sharkfin]

wow what a change so far

[UnkleGatsby]

Hell Yes!!!

[Papa Stone]

I like the badge.. Specially after I bought it new!!.. I will take it under consideration removing it..

I will take more pics of the rear lights.. But they are ease to make, its the stock one with a Dark film over it..

Thanks for the kind words. Tomorrow I will try to take pics of the interior with the buckets (just fitment, they should be ready to paint by this week) and the VR6 engine. I am actually in a bind on this one..

I have currently a 24V VR6 in pieces. I would have to purchase a few pieces to put it together (might even purchase rods, but it would take longer to do it, economics would make this project over 2500 and 3 months more to built). Also I would have to make the custom intake manifold. However I can go with a 12V, purchase the intake manifold from SPA, headgasket with ARP bolts and make my Horsepower Goal with some room to spare (running the GT35 turbo)
So you can make me choose.. 24v or 12V

[solowb5]

I'm going to go 24v. Seen cool things with that vvt

[4inchMAF]

i Really have started looking into this swap. you already know how you are going about this? stand alone EM? VR6 ECU and harness? we need details!!!

24V will flow more overall, but, obviously, costs more. the 12V motors can be had very cheap and there is always a surplus of them floating around. if it were me and i had all the money it seems you have (LOL), i would do it right with the 24V. if you decide on the 12V (which makes more sense from an economic standpoint), you could just get a good port job done to it to open it up some for better airflow.

[Papa Stone]

034 has run this set up in their car.Stand alone will be the way to go with my setup.
You can run the Stock cars computer for your dash and use the stand alone computer for your cars engine.. as I progress to this I will discuss and share on the fidings.. I am really liking the 12V solution because I been working with this for some time.. and I am getting desperate to run the car.. I might even work on the 24V later ..

[solowb5]

Just throwing and ecu and wiring harness isn't going to just work. There are certain things that will give you problems. You will also need to go through each harness and know what resistance is supposed to be seen at each sensor from each harness to make sure they are the same.

[Papa Stone]

solo.. I am not understanding your observation... why won't it work? Worst case scenario is that I have to buy a new dash . I am only thinking on buying the 034 Stage IIb product because of its integration with audi hardware..
http://www.034motorsport.com/product...products_id=37

I have been reading alot about this product and have found that it integrates with our vehicles very good. However I will ask and make sure of the problems it will bring before purchasing it.. I have seen alot of audi's work with these..

[solowb5]

Of course the IIb will work, but I'd go IIc. I wasn't a fan of standalone. I was saying swaping in the oem hardware such as the engine harness and ecu will be trickier then theorizing. The 034 IIb will work on any rated sized engine. Standalone is standalone. It will run any engine. 034 just offerers a pre-made harness for the vag engines. It seems you know or have the hook up on body work, but it seems you should call 034 so you can decide what you really want and can do.

[Papa Stone]

Thanks I just PM you on this.. I am lucky with my built. We have the only Mechanical/Bodyshop in Puerto Rico with full engine services and a 7000 square foot facility. My partner is very good in engine, and electronics, but this is the first time we have started with a built of this level. and it will be a first on a Audi in this Island.

BTW, the only reason I would keep anything OEM is to run the Stock Dash in the car, and for what I read the OEM ECU is needed too run the panel.

[Issam@INA]

solo.. I am not understanding your observation... why won't it work? Worst case scenario is that I have to buy a new dash . I am only thinking on buying the 034 Stage IIb product because of its integration with audi hardware..
http://www.034motorsport.com/product...products_id=37

I have been reading alot about this product and have found that it integrates with our vehicles very good. However I will ask and make sure of the problems it will bring before purchasing it.. I have seen alot of audi's work with these..

As slowB5 has said,
you will need the Stage IIc system.
Stage IIb does not have enough drivers to control 6 coils , 6 injectors and 2 VVT solenoids.
My personal opinion is to go with the 24V VR6 motor because they are OEM motor mounts that work with the motor.Building an intake manifold is not an issue.I like the SPA 12V manifold but the units that show up on ebay need severe casting reworking and when you see what 600US+ gets you ,you begin to question whether it was worth it.

My advice for the turbo manifold on a budget is to get OEM manifolds and just run a Y-pipe.The VR motor allows you to have that room.

I added you to msn so feel free to message me anytime you want.

[Papa Stone]

Thanks Issam..

[solowb5]

what's the 411 on the mounts used?

[Siena]

I love the look of this Avant!

Papa, what engine was in your car to begin with?
From the initial pictures, it wasn't an S4.

[ryannorthcott]

car looks awesome! love the colour.

not really liking the bright red seats though

[SleeperAvant]

Amazing!

[Papa Stone]

2.8 30V V6 is the original engine..

Thanks for the complements.. I am no longer using this horid red seats..

Issam, if I use a 12V VR6 can I use a IIb?

[audiFUEGO]

omg im squirting everywhere

[blmlozz]

how far did you strip the engine bay? did you leave the accessories in as seen in the pictures or did you go full-bare? Just wondering because I'm considering the same full-body strip re-spray. Thanks and good work.

[Papa Stone]

FULL BARE!!

[4inchMAF]

is IIb wasted spark?

[Papa Stone]

Issam convince me to go 24V VR6 so ... this will take a little longer but my end date is for a European Fest @ the end of the summer..

Now we can look at 600whp on high boost and 109oct fuel. I am also looking into two turbos.. either a Borg Warner S362 or a S364.. they seem to be very capable for this HP!!

... You see there is this friend of mine with a ZO6 (with 520whp) that has called my car a Pumpkin cake.. So I have taken it a little personal and I want to Kick his A$$ with a WAGON!!

[pipe7284]

Lovely project!!!!!!

[Issam@INA]

so...24V VR6 it is!

[lookaught]

That's a fantastic project! Bringing that car back from the edge of death, my hat is off to you!

[Russell2686]

wow man awesome job can't wait to see more

[.Mad Hatter.]

holy shit...keeping an eye on this for sure.

[Papa Stone]

Ok, Last night (SUNDAY) I brought it to the shop and started working the minor details..
1. Polish ..
2. Fitting the new seats (I still have to paint them , and stich them on orange
3. Start finding the engine (which is somewhere in the shop)
Here some eye candy for you all
Full Polishing


Soon to be Stich in Orange and painted

Seat Placement

The Head .."I found it!!!! YeAH"

The Block .. With all the parts (still thinking about the rods)

Another interior Pic

some one ask about the Taillights

[Sigma 3]

Issam convince me to go 24V VR6 so ... this will take a little longer but my end date is for a European Fest @ the end of the summer..

Now we can look at 600whp on high boost and 109oct fuel. I am also looking into two turbos.. either a Borg Warner S362 or a S364.. they seem to be very capable for this HP!!

... You see there is this friend of mine with a ZO6 (with 520whp) that has called my car a Pumpkin cake.. So I have taken it a little personal and I want to Kick his A$$ with a WAGON!!

that is good motivation. Nice project

[big_greasy_taco]

This is going to be a sick car, Keep up the good work.

IMO, the seats in there now do the car no justice. Have Recaro make you some custom racing seats, black leather with an orange alcantara center insert. The would be so hot

[pipe7284]

nice paint job

[offroader1006]

um, WOW