I have a few DSM buddies that personal friends with the guys that make DSMlink.. I guess it's only 2 guys (pretty impressive), and they barely have time to do Evo's and are working there asses off to finish V3. I guess they do wanna branch off to other cars but they think Subaru's might be next.
That seems silly, they already have that stuff open sourced.
here, maybe i can redeem myself with this one. ida plugin for bosch me7 files. http://rapidshare.com/files/21381198...hme7x.rar.html edit: make sure you have your file split in to the 2 files. 1 file = first 64kb (bootloader ? it must be. the first set of instructions in an embedded system is always the bl). 2nd file = rest of file. andy shows you how to load them in to ida in his videos.
ive got a cracked ecux on my laptop but its in the car and im on my pc.
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Because he clearly has figured it out somehow and custom tuned his car, and using TunerPro his .xdf file (map definitions) does show up properly. What I would like to know is some clarification on the unit's and also were the modifications done in TunerPro and then the checksums corrected in say WinOLS?
If anyone else what's to chime in on this (or supply a .damos LOL) that would be great!
Also, kOmpressed, what is that file you're talking about? Split in two? ida plugin (what's an ida)? huh? lol
Because he clearly has figured it out somehow and custom tuned his car, and using TunerPro his .xdf file (map definitions) does show up properly. What I would like to know is some clarification on the unit's and also were the modifications done in TunerPro and then the checksums corrected in say WinOLS?
If anyone else what's to chime in on this (or supply a .damos LOL) that would be great!
Also, kOmpressed, what is that file you're talking about? Split in two? ida plugin (what's an ida)? huh? lol
Look up his name on AW and QW, maybe you can email him from there, screenname Nyet
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Because he clearly has figured it out somehow and custom tuned his car, and using TunerPro his .xdf file (map definitions) does show up properly. What I would like to know is some clarification on the unit's and also were the modifications done in TunerPro and then the checksums corrected in say WinOLS?
If anyone else what's to chime in on this (or supply a .damos LOL) that would be great!
Also, kOmpressed, what is that file you're talking about? Split in two? ida plugin (what's an ida)? huh? lol
PM'ed .. post up what you find out, I still need to install XP on this laptop.
So a little update again (two in one day not bad! LOL), I've been trying to get a feeling for WinOLS, I think that will be the next biggest step. I have for now forgotten about TunerPro (although it's been said to me it works well, so that is something to keep in mind here) and decided to work only with WinOLS as that pretty much the standard edit software it seems.
Currently once I've got most of the functions down pat I will be making my own damos file for the M-box ECU's. That will clearly take some time on my part unless someone can tell me how to import a axis description profile (haven't been able to figure that out yet) if that is even possible.
^^^ I'm pretty sure it's fairly new.... I remember when I was first looking @ the Motorsport ECU's I didn't find anything except PDF's that described the general usage and options of the ECU's.
Either way, it's a ton of info that is very useful and I wanted to make sure that it's put out there. :)
Nice to see some real enthusiasts, not like some of us, always fighting ourselves.
This is where you need to go. I have been heavily involved with open souce ECU flashing on the EVO since it started. The Subaru community also has a lot of open source flashing stuff. On the EVO forums there is smart people always "disassembling" ROMS and find all the maps and ways to flash them. I was thinking of talking to some of them and seeing if they could looking into an S4 ECU. All they would need is an ECU.
If you guys saw the ECUflash forums on the EVO board, you guys would shit yourself. Everyday they find new tuning table,come up with new great mods etc. its dope.
edit- when i say mods, they have stuff like map switching (w/o laptop or reflash), having the check engine light flash on user set knock levels, valet maps, etc. We have also changed the boost control from load based to psi based and have found many boost control mods, in the ECU.
As for people saying we need something like DSMlink, HELL NO. Dsmlink takes installing a socket and is not true flashing. Hell now the 2gen DSM kids are puttin EVO ECUs into them so they can use all the cool flashing and loggin tools us EVO kids have. I have an EVO ECU on my table right now, about to go into my brothers 2nd gen GST in a week or so.
Anyways, im going gonna hit up some open source EVO flashing people and see if they can help. Ill report in a couple days.
This is where you need to go. I have been heavily involved with open souce ECU flashing on the EVO since it started. The Subaru community also has a lot of open source flashing stuff. On the EVO forums there is smart people always "disassembling" ROMS and find all the maps and ways to flash them. I was thinking of talking to some of them and seeing if they could looking into an S4 ECU. All they would need is an ECU.
If you guys saw the ECUflash forums on the EVO board, you guys would shit yourself. Everyday they find new tuning table,come up with new great mods etc. its dope.
edit- when i say mods, they have stuff like map switching (w/o laptop or reflash), having the check engine light flash on user set knock levels, valet maps, etc. We have also changed the boost control from load based to psi based and have found many boost control mods, in the ECU.
As for people saying we need something like DSMlink, HELL NO. Dsmlink takes installing a socket and is not true flashing. Hell now the 2gen DSM kids are puttin EVO ECUs into them so they can use all the cool flashing and loggin tools us EVO kids have. I have an EVO ECU on my table right now, about to go into my brothers 2nd gen GST in a week or so.
Anyways, im going gonna hit up some open source EVO flashing people and see if they can help. Ill report in a couple days.
OPEN SOURCE FLASHING FTMFW
Agreed, I started doing alot of the mods to my Evo ecu before i sold it. I wish we had that kind of opensource support!
This is where you need to go. I have been heavily involved with open souce ECU flashing on the EVO since it started. The Subaru community also has a lot of open source flashing stuff. On the EVO forums there is smart people always "disassembling" ROMS and find all the maps and ways to flash them. I was thinking of talking to some of them and seeing if they could looking into an S4 ECU. All they would need is an ECU.
If you guys saw the ECUflash forums on the EVO board, you guys would shit yourself. Everyday they find new tuning table,come up with new great mods etc. its dope.
edit- when i say mods, they have stuff like map switching (w/o laptop or reflash), having the check engine light flash on user set knock levels, valet maps, etc. We have also changed the boost control from load based to psi based and have found many boost control mods, in the ECU.
As for people saying we need something like DSMlink, HELL NO. Dsmlink takes installing a socket and is not true flashing. Hell now the 2gen DSM kids are puttin EVO ECUs into them so they can use all the cool flashing and loggin tools us EVO kids have. I have an EVO ECU on my table right now, about to go into my brothers 2nd gen GST in a week or so.
Anyways, im going gonna hit up some open source EVO flashing people and see if they can help. Ill report in a couple days.
OPEN SOURCE FLASHING FTMFW
the problem with our ECUs is that they have 5000+ maps
There are a lot of 'modifier' maps.... Problem is, this isn't anything like tuning a stand alone (which is what I'm used to)... A torque based system (and a Motronic ECU at that) get very complicated quite quickly... seeing as there are many corrections to be done to get to the final injection, ignition and boost request.
That's probably going to be the hardest part of all this after getting all the maps properly defined.
Excellent to find another group of individuals working in this task. The only thing I've found has been the lemmiwinks software for my a6 2.7t. That has allowed me to make some basic changes, but I really want the ability (or even need) to adjust all the parameters in my ecu myself.
My tuning background is with standalones and piggybacks. EFI 101 and EFI Advanced University certified as well as AEM EMS factory trained. I use to co-own a performance shop with an awd dyno dynamics dyno and have extensive experience with tuning vehicles. My weakness in this department is the interfacing of chipping and decifying hex code. I've done it back when dsm's were chipped, but it is not a strength.
What bugs me is the overall lack of support for this ecu. I find to be mindboggling. There are a handful of companies out there fighting for a dwindling market to sell them chips, where there are quite a few people out there, myself included, that would pay serious $$ to just have a program ready to use. Something like dsmlink, open ecu, heck anything that just has the files out there.
There have been some great programs posted in this thread that I will try to use tomorrow to attempt to pull any files of my PCM.
Ready and willing to help out with anything I can. Hopefully I can pull some files and then just look for changes to help to start to identify what maps are for what.
I think I can help you get started. Together maybe we could actually get somewhere..
I already talk to Boris and notorious vr with pms but they seem to loose interest.....
Pm me your email and we will talk from there.......
I will be hopefully reading my stock ROM soon. A new version of the new EVO flashing program was released that allows reading of other ECUs fro development reason.
I have spend a lot of hours trying to work things out but I got nowhere......
I can find more than one maps for boost,timing etc.....
So its not that easy to modify them....This is where I got stuck....
I tried to change a value of a map that I think is the duty of the N75 (boost) and I reflashed it back on the ecu, but I saw no diffrence at all. ...I have the tool to easily flash it....
talk to nyet on QW. He can point you in the right direction.
Viperbl on here might be able to help you out a little too. Not sure though
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I have spend a lot of hours trying to work things out but I got nowhere......
I can find more than one maps for boost,timing etc.....
So its not that easy to modify them....This is where I got stuck....
I tried to change a value of a map that I think is the duty of the N75 (boost) and I reflashed it back on the ecu, but I saw no diffrence at all. ...I have the tool to easily flash it....
What exact tool did you get to read/flash to the ecu?...ive seen a bunch of flash tools on ebay etc. but im not sure which is the best. And when it comes to my applicatoin it says something about boot mode?? There is this Galletto flasher but i didnt get a response when i emailed the e-store. http://www.51vag.com/eobd2-galletto-1260-p-49.html
Also what software are you using to go through the maps?? WinOLS?
Yes, i've spoken to a few tuners who have said that you have to change a few maps in order to change boost, fuel, etc.
Im down to put in some time and money for this.
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What exact tool did you get to read/flash to the ecu?...ive seen a bunch of flash tools on ebay etc. but im not sure which is the best. And when it comes to my applicatoin it says something about boot mode?? There is this Galletto flasher but i didnt get a response when i emailed the e-store. http://www.51vag.com/eobd2-galletto-1260-p-49.html
Also what software are you using to go through the maps?? WinOLS?
Yes, i've spoken to a few tuners who have said that you have to change a few maps in order to change boost, fuel, etc.
Im down to put in some time and money for this.
You will need to bench flash your ecu to get it to read/write safely with galleto. I can help you with the boot pin.
You simple need to ground a pin on the ecu board.So you need to open the ecu,have 12v power to it, ground,kline etc to make it work.It not as hard as it sounds.
I use MPPS flash tool (pricy) to flash from the OBD port...
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Like I mentioned above, Im from the EVO community and they have major open source stuff going on. So i made a thread over there asking if maybe some of them can help with this project.
Saw that over on evom (same SN on most forums, I was the most active on the 3000gt/stealth communities).
I will try to use the ecuflash to pull my file tonight and see what I come up with. I've got a few different readers I can try that might work I've used for flashing gm's, subaru's, evo's, dsm's, honda's before. Hopefully one of them can pull it.
I was really motivated to work on this when I first got the car, thanks for the motivation again.
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Well, I have sent an email to nyet. It seems that he learned how to custom tune his S4, so I am asking him if he'd share his method or what he did to successfully flash and tune his car. Also, (read below)
Originally Posted by niterydr
Saw that over on evom (same SN on most forums, I was the most active on the 3000gt/stealth communities).
I will try to use the ecuflash to pull my file tonight and see what I come up with. I've got a few different readers I can try that might work I've used for flashing gm's, subaru's, evo's, dsm's, honda's before. Hopefully one of them can pull it.
I was really motivated to work on this when I first got the car, thanks for the motivation again.
I also am messing with ECUflash and S4 roms and seeing if I can get something started. I also ordered a cable w/ software to pull my ROM, but we already have ROMs available to us. It looks like on nyet has all the stock ROM on his page. What we need most is people to disassemble (find all the needed tables) the ROM and people to write definition files (the correct parameters to veiw and change the tables in the ROM) for these ROMS. I, even though having tuned, flashed, edited ROMs and definition files, I cant disassemble or write a definition file from scratch.
But we just need more people on this project and i believe in no time well have a solution
What do you guys think? N75 duty cycle?
The translator says "KF linearization to boost = f (TV) (10x16)"
LOL. I have no idea. Even though i have flashed tuned ECUs, modified ROMS and definition files. I dont know how to disassemble or how to write a definition file from scratch. I think I have found a few people that can help though, hopefully they respond shortly.
The units are
U/min (rpm) from 1000 to 6900
I think %= is the load .up to 95%
The other axel is not named and was 0 values in it BUT the 3d drawing shows values.I think thats the n75 duty cycle....
The think that put my off is that at wot the duty is constant,which this is not the case for a stock car.It will never have constant boost with constant duty cycle.
Originally Posted by XSilverJ
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