Bad day for me Terrible day for him...W/PICS!

[SlipAngle]

damn..I suspect fowl play lol...yea he's prob got it sitting there waiting for insurance and/or police to come inspect the scene.

[OneBadAudi]

That is crazy, even with that car the way it is would pay off parts for a fully modded a4 Time for some pickit-n-pullit

[Raus]

Look to me like someone threw a maitai cocktail thru the rear glass as most of the damage is back there.

Sorry man, just had to say:

MaiTai cocktail = fruity rum drink
Molotov cocktail = gas bomb



Yeah, looks like it was torched though

[FireWire]

reminds me of this , it takes the firemen forever to break the front windows

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6mLT9j1B-Y

[aaron1085]

looks like he pissed SOMEONE off

[BlackB6]

..Thinking about getting into some sketchy shit so someone will torch my car .

[OC1.8T]

I guess thats what happens when a drug deal goes Bad. RIP Benz.

[sambrody44]

Definitely looks torched. That sucks, but its what happens when you deal with shady people.

[yung turbo]

can you say insurance scam.
and they dont make CLS 65 AMGs

[Militant-Grunt]

never knew a 65 existed in a CLS

There was no CLS65....

That is a CLS55 5.4 supercharged.

[JMRQuattro]

^^ or a 63

EDIT: Actually, scratch that. It is a 55. Pretty much the only way to tell is the sides of the front bumper. Didn't even think of it at first. The 63 has 2 vent slots on the lower side of the front bumper similar to the RS4.

[A4Triple Blk]

wow that sux balls ... it looks like they used that car to blow it up in a movie ... thats what happens when you owe people money and don't pay them lol

[Undisputed]

damn..I suspect fowl play lol...yea he's prob got it sitting there waiting for insurance and/or police to come inspect the scene.

Like an angry chicken or pigeon or something?

Sorry, I just couldn't pass that up.

[Raus]

Like an angry chicken or pigeon or something?

"Where's my money?"

[Undisputed]

lol

[czero]

"Where's my money?"

[47Ronin]

he doesnt lose anything tho - insurance will pay for it

[Rockclimbersh]

They didn't put a V12 TT in the CLS unless you had it done by somebody like Brabus or Renntech. The earlier AMG models came with the 5.5 liter supercharged V8 (torquemonster!), and the newer ones comes with the NA 6.3 V8 and a 7 Speed auto tranny. Both are fast as hell, until they get blowed up by someone with a grudge.

[Dopefish]

The radiator in the front is either a heavy-duty transmission cooler or an oil cooler. If the car has a water-air intercooler, it could be the radiator for the intercooler as well.

I highly doubt it's a water-air intercooler as that would hinder the daily driveability of the car. Either way it doesn't matter now.

Just stop, the both of you.

[Rockclimbersh]

It's a flux capacitor!

[A4edwin]

that aint no intercooler

[pa4ul]

http://www.channel4.com/4car/gl/gallery/spy+shot/1049/8
It is a cls65amg

[A6.S-line]

http://www.channel4.com/4car/gl/gallery/spy+shot/1049/8
It is a cls65amg

Dude, how old is that link? Umm, spy shots of a car that's been out for years??

They never made a 65 version of the CLS AMG, just 55 (supercharged 5.4L) and 63 (n/a 6.2L)

[JMRQuattro]

Dude, how old is that link? Umm, spy shots of a car that's been out for years??

They never made a 65 version of the CLS AMG, just 55 (supercharged 5.4L) and 63 (n/a 6.2L)

yeah that link has gotta be old. It's probably a shot from when they were first coming out with the 63 a couple years ago but before they actually released it with a name.

And looking at that car even though it has the quad exhaust like that, it doesn't have the same front bumper as the 63 does. And considering a lot of that car has been modified i don't know if that exhaust is a dead give away that it's the 63.

[mrbacardi35]

holy shit. who did this guy pissed off.

[Undisputed]

Don Chicken Cattitore

[Oxygen_]

Hey guys... saw the link posted on MyMB... that's horrible!

Maybe while I am here I can clear up some of the confusion going on here..

The car is 100% a CLS55 AMG, 5.4L Supercharged V8, Water-to-Air intercooled...

The core in the front is not an FMIC, but is an additional heat exchanger that's aftermarket... like this one:



They never made a CLS65 AMG, and the CLS63 is a N/A 6.2L V8.

The front bumper for the CLS63 and CLS65 are exactly the same.

[JMRQuattro]

^^ I'm still confused as to how you can tell what motor it has without the side badges?

I'm not disagreeing that it's the 55, but they both have quad exhaust and since this is badgeless on the sides i'm wondering where you can tell what motor it has.

But as far as the front bumper, this is what i was talking about...


It has those 2 side vents on it. And yes i'm aware that ^^ is a CL not a CLS, but i have an article from motortrend pinned on my door with the CLS63 and it has the same front bumper. I just can't find any pics on google of it.

And the 55 does not. Also i'm pretty sure that the 63 was a replacement for the 55 rather than another model choice.

[JMRQuattro]

And i guess either way it doesn't really matter because it's around $200k anyway so it sucks regardless of what it is. But yeah, it's the 55.

And this is the best mercedes EVER anyway

[Oxygen_]

^^ I'm still confused as to how you can tell what motor it has without the side badges?

I'm not disagreeing that it's the 55, but they both have quad exhaust and since this is badgeless on the sides i'm wondering where you can tell what motor it has.

It has those 2 side vents on it. And yes i'm aware that ^^ is a CL not a CLS, but i have an article from motortrend pinned on my door with the CLS63 and it has the same front bumper. I just can't find any pics on google of it.

And the 55 does not. Also i'm pretty sure that the 63 was a replacement for the 55 rather than another model choice.

The way you can tell is by the after market heat exchanger that I posted above...

The CLS63 AMG is a naturally aspirated 6.2L V8, whereas the CLS55 AMG is a 5.4L Supercharged V8, which is water-to-air intercooled, thus the aftermarket heat exchanger on the front of the car that b[urnt down. Since the CLS63 AMG is naturally aspirated, there is no heat exchangers because there is no intercooling.

In regards to the side vents on the front bumper, neither the CLS55 or the CLS63 had such bumpers... if you saw it somewhere it must have been custom cut into the existing bumper.

Here is a 2007 CLS63 AMG:



Here is a 2006 CLS55 AMG:



You are correct, the 63 was a replacement for the 55, it replaced it for the 2007 model year.

[Oxygen_]

And i guess either way it doesn't really matter because it's around $200k anyway so it sucks regardless of what it is. But yeah, it's the 55.

I think the MSRP on a new CLS55 AMG was around $80K or so..

[The Godfather]

pwned the Audi crew on the Mercedes knowledge.

[Oxygen_]

I highly doubt it's a water-air intercooler as that would hinder the daily driveability of the car. Either way it doesn't matter now.

Can you please explain why?

ALL of the supercharged V8 AMG cars use water-air intercooling, only issues we see are the intercooler water pumps failing at around 50,000 miles, which is bitter sweet because for $175 you can upgrade to a pump that has double the flow rate over a stock pump.

My V12 Biturbo S-Class uses the same water-air intercooling, just like the rest of the 65 AMG cars.

[The Godfather]

Well my pump is still good :D It's just that the pump sucks and the IAT climb and shut off the S/C and then you're slow as hell lol.

[Oxygen_]

pwned the Audi crew on the Mercedes knowledge.

No intention to pwn anyone, just wanted to clear it up for those that actually care.

[JMRQuattro]

The way you can tell is by the after market heat exchanger that I posted above...

The CLS63 AMG is a naturally aspirated 6.2L V8, whereas the CLS55 AMG is a 5.4L Supercharged V8, which is water-to-air intercooled, thus the aftermarket heat exchanger on the front of the car that b[urnt down. Since the CLS63 AMG is naturally aspirated, there is no heat exchangers because there is no intercooling.

In regards to the side vents on the front bumper, neither the CLS55 or the CLS63 had such bumpers... if you saw it somewhere it must have been custom cut into the existing bumper.

ok that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

But i saw the bumper in an article on motortrend magazine, in the physical magazine itself. It's pinned up on this collage of my favorite motortrend articles i have on my door. Unfortunately i can't seem to find the picture from the article anywhere on the internet... Maybe it's a special package?

But i thought that MSRP was the base price for the 500 and 550 models. I always assumed that the 63 amg would have a huge price jump like the SL65 AMG does, where it goes from $96k to $192k.

[Oxygen_]

ok that makes sense. Thanks for clearing that up.

But i saw the bumper in an article on motortrend magazine, in the physical magazine itself. It's pinned up on this collage of my favorite motortrend articles i have on my door. Unfortunately i can't seem to find the picture from the article anywhere on the internet... Maybe it's a special package?

But i thought that MSRP was the base price for the 500 and 550 models. I always assumed that the 63 amg would have a huge price jump like the SL65 AMG does, where it goes from $96k to $192k.

No special packages, all AMG cars like that come with the same body kit.

Maybe you're thinking of my friend Slang500's car?



He made the cuts in the front bumper himself.

Here is the info on MSRP: http://autos.yahoo.com/2006_mercedes..._4_door_coupe/

2006 MSRP $86,600
2006 Invoice $80,538

I think the S55 and the CL55 were the most expensive 5.5 supercharged cars, they were around $120,000. The CLS and the E-Class are under $100K and can be bought nowadays for about $40,000.

You know they say the only thing faster than an AMG is it's depreciation.

[JMRQuattro]

I found it! It was an article title "coupes de grace" First drive: CLS550/600/63 AMG

And here's the picture i have on my door


And yet another picture


So i'm not crazy lol. These are from motortrend's website and are both the 63 AMG.

[JMRQuattro]

No special packages, all AMG cars like that come with the same body kit.

Maybe you're thinking of my friend Slang500's car?


2006 MSRP $86,600
2006 Invoice $80,538

I think the S55 and the CL55 were the most expensive 5.5 supercharged cars, they were around $120,000. The CLS and the E-Class are under $100K and can be bought nowadays for about $40,000.

You know they say the only thing faster than an AMG is it's depreciation.

No i was definitely thinking of the motortrend article. So then the price difference is simply the fact it's a 5.5 supercharged V8? And the reason the SL65 AMG is so expensive is the twin turbo V12?

[A6.S-line]

But i thought that MSRP was the base price for the 500 and 550 models. I always assumed that the 63 amg would have a huge price jump like the SL65 AMG does, where it goes from $96k to $192k.

As mentioned above, the CLS63 was a direct replacement in 07 for the CLS55, so pricing is similar to the 55. All the 63s (E, CL, SL, etc.) are replacements for the 55s, and are in no way comparable to the outrageously priced 65s.

PS: the 65 is only offered on the 3 'flagship' models, the S, SL and CL.