Soon to be a GT3076r BAT Member - Q about T3 Treadstone Manifold

**dfaudi** · 02-01-2009 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by absolutegtr

Will the TDI crank and rods run into an issue of knocking into the side of the block (06A)?

Shouldnt. But the rod ratio is like 1.5 so more stress is put on the pistn skirts and cyl. walls.

**dfaudi** · 02-02-2009 06:10 PM

Holy shit are oil lines expensive! Phuqin redonculous!

I have the coolant lines covered. Going to run a banjo/barbed for inlet/oulet. Im assuming that the GTRS are the same as GT30?

OIL LINES: Is there any way that i can use the stock lines? Maybe extend the stock line near the turbo by cutting/flaring and extending it? I just cant justify spending $150-$200 on oil lines.

And what is everyone doing for the oil pan flange. What type is it?

Anyone have a cheaper way to do oil lines in general...maybe the best combination with the least amount of parts?

What are the thread types on the stock oil lines inlet and outlet?

Sorry for the bombardment of questions...but oil lines are the last part of the kit before i bolt it on.

**dirtybrd** · 02-02-2009 06:18 PM

My return is a AN-10 line to the stock metal fitting that had the stock hose removed and then hose clamping in place.

**dfaudi** · 02-02-2009 08:16 PM

So the stock line just comes off the oil pan fitting or you had to cut it off?

**dfaudi** · 02-02-2009 08:20 PM

Pic update. Here are most of the parts...still gotta get some bottom end stuff...crank, custom pistons.

**7speed** · 02-02-2009 08:33 PM

you have IE rods, I thought you were going 2.0 ?

**7speed** · 02-02-2009 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by dfaudi

Holy shit are oil lines expensive! Phuqin redonculous!

I have the coolant lines covered. Going to run a banjo/barbed for inlet/oulet. Im assuming that the GTRS are the same as GT30?

OIL LINES: Is there any way that i can use the stock lines? Maybe extend the stock line near the turbo by cutting/flaring and extending it? I just cant justify spending $150-$200 on oil lines.

And what is everyone doing for the oil pan flange. What type is it?

Anyone have a cheaper way to do oil lines in general...maybe the best combination with the least amount of parts?

What are the thread types on the stock oil lines inlet and outlet?

Sorry for the bombardment of questions...but oil lines are the last part of the kit before i bolt it on.

Do a general search on vwvortex in the forced performance section and you can find a plethora of lines for sale

**AudiA4_20T** · 02-02-2009 10:11 PM

A. IE makes 20mm if you want them
B. Why would you cheap on oil lines? You spent so much on everything just pay the money and get the right stuff

**A4natomical** · 02-02-2009 10:44 PM

why is there 20 feet of intercooler piping? Is there really that much piping down there, jeez.

**dfaudi** · 02-03-2009 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by AudiA4_20T

A. IE makes 20mm if you want them
B. Why would you cheap on oil lines? You spent so much on everything just pay the money and get the right stuff

The IE's are 20mm. I was going to use those with AEB pistons for a 1.8L but changed my mind. Will be using them with a different crank/piston combo for a 2.0L+ setup, but just havent decided.

Oil Lines. ...So far, off ATP's site, there is the oil filter housing adaptor, 3/4ft line and the restrictor and that is a -4AN setup for about ~$65. Thats not that bad. So basically, looks like ill need the return flange to a barbed fitting that goes to the stock (modified) oil pan flange.

Do we need the 3ft'er line or the 4ft'er line from the filter housing to turbo? Is our stock 3AN or 4AN?

**dfaudi** · 02-03-2009 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by A4natomical

why is there 20 feet of intercooler piping? Is there really that much piping down there, jeez.

Yes, all that i/c piping is needed. Its going to be all hard pipes. I mainly need the bends so not all that length will be used.
The 2 3" pieces you see are for my turbo intake.

**7speed** · 02-03-2009 06:49 AM

you only need 3ft for the oil feed line

**dirtybrd** · 02-03-2009 04:20 PM

And a AN-4 oil restrictor for that AN-4 oil feed line. Let me try the clarify my return line. On the oil pan there is a metal elbow and flange. I cut off the factory SS braided hose leaving on the metal fitting that goes to the pan. Then I clamped a AN-10 SS hose to it with a female AN-10 fitting on the other end that connects to the male AN-10 fitting on the bottom of the turbo.

**mike-2ptzero** · 02-03-2009 04:38 PM

Largest line in the picture is the oil drain line and it has the pan and turbo fittings on it.

**dfaudi** · 02-03-2009 10:22 PM

Cool, i think i got the lines figured out. Thanks guys.

**AudiA4_20T** · 03-04-2009 06:43 AM

is this bad boy gonna be on the road soon?

**dfaudi** · 03-04-2009 08:03 AM

Haha...yeah. Its my daily driver so im trying to slate out a whole weekend to do it. At this point ive sourced every nut and bolt needed for the swap.
First im going to do the turbo (low boost), fab up the dp and redo my intercooler piping (all of it) then when its running for a week or so, im going to swap the AEB head and swap in IE rods (picked up 19mms) for now. In a few months, ill build the block, use my 20mm IE rods, new crank, etc.

Its been so cold in MI (~20 degrees) its a bitch to do anything. I hate this f'ing state.

Im shooting for this weekend...hopefully...its supposed to warm up a bit ~40's

**7speed** · 03-04-2009 08:14 AM

nevamind

**AudiA4_20T** · 03-04-2009 10:41 PM

why not do the block and AEB at the same time?

**dfaudi** · 03-05-2009 06:27 AM

Couple reasons, its my daily driver, so i can only spare a weekend (for now) to work on it. So that means i can do the turbo/head. But block (to be done right) has to be sent out for machining etc. So untill the weather warms up, i can take my bike to work while the motor is out. So For now im going to do the turbo one weekend, then do the head/rods the following weekend and hope that when i measure the crank/bearings they are within tolerance. I got the ARP's so i can reuse them when doing the block right in a few months.
Oh, and another reason is the good ol' money problem...i gotta clear my credit cards before i charge a crank/pistons and other stuff for the block.

**AudiA4_20T** · 03-05-2009 06:55 AM

Originally Posted by dfaudi

Couple reasons, its my daily driver, so i can only spare a weekend (for now) to work on it. So that means i can do the turbo/head. But block (to be done right) has to be sent out for machining etc. So untill the weather warms up, i can take my bike to work while the motor is out. So For now im going to do the turbo one weekend, then do the head/rods the following weekend and hope that when i measure the crank/bearings they are within tolerance. I got the ARP's so i can reuse them when doing the block right in a few months.
Oh, and another reason is the good ol' money problem...i gotta clear my credit cards before i charge a crank/pistons and other stuff for the block.

you need much more than a weekend for a complete motor build believe me, $5 parts screw you over. Get a spare block and go from there, you're car will never have to be down

**dfaudi** · 03-05-2009 07:45 AM

yeah thats what im saying...full motor build later and ride my bike to work while car is down for a few weeks.

I will probably pick up a block too.

**dfaudi** · 03-05-2009 07:46 AM

Btw, when does your 35R spool with the .82? and what boost?

**A4 TSCHUSS** · 03-05-2009 09:05 AM

He doesn't know because it doesn't run

1 year and counting

**AudiA4_20T** · 03-05-2009 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by A4 TSCHUSS

He doesn't know because it doesn't run

1 year and counting

8 months, I just went to put the turbo on but the oil return is too big to fit in between the runners on the FR

Anyway, Im expecting around 4800 with the head, cams, etc

**A4 TSCHUSS** · 03-05-2009 09:42 AM

With my setup

2.0
aeb head
Schrick 252/260 cams
GT3076 .63 a/r on ATP log manifold

I see 24psi at like 4500 or 4600rpm

**dfaudi** · 03-22-2009 09:02 PM

Ok the GT30 is in! I went around the block to cycle the coolant and so far so good. Ill post pics when i get them off my cam.

The install was more of a pita than i thought...mainly fabbing the downpipe and WG plumbing and believe it or not. Also the oil return was a huge bitch since i cheaped out

Im going to start a new GT30 thread and will continue on there with pics etc. Ill update this thread with a link.

**dfaudi** · 03-22-2009 09:04 PM

Oh yeah, what BAT # am I?

**AudiA4_20T** · 03-22-2009 10:00 PM

nice

**SleeperAvant** · 03-23-2009 08:41 AM

Looking forward to the pics :)

**dirtybrd** · 03-23-2009 12:14 PM

congrats

**mike-2ptzero** · 03-23-2009 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by dfaudi

Oh yeah, what BAT # am I?

Member #52.

**A4 TSCHUSS** · 03-23-2009 12:59 PM

What number am I? I will tell ya! I am zero. That sounds like a good number.

**mike-2ptzero** · 03-23-2009 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by A4 TSCHUSS

What number am I? I will tell ya! I am zero. That sounds like a good number.

Slow cars dont get a number.

But you will always be second. LOL

**b5a4gt28** · 04-01-2009 01:49 PM

Hey dave Im waiting for them pics

**dfaudi** · 04-02-2009 06:52 AM

Shit, yeah i gotta put them up...their on my FB accoutn tho. Been busy with work.

**dfaudi** · 05-27-2009 10:09 PM

Ive installed the turbo setup. My motor build and AEB high rev head is next.

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