10 sec s4

[Das General]

saw your car in person. I am very impressed by how well you treat you car.
ditch the tires please, it's not safe.

hahaha thanks man. It is in rough shape right now. Needs a new rear bumper, new front bumper, engine. As far as the tires. That is what came on them when they showed up... they are definitely getting swapped out.

[blackbenzz]

and when my shift fork was messed up and I had to go from a 90mph roll in a slight drizzle.. We can all play that game.. lol

going from 90 in 3rd is going from like 55mph in an s4 from 3rd.. The worst part is, is that you dont have the rpm from the motor to carry you from 2nd to 3rd.. Whenever j rock and I would take off evenly, me starting in 2nd I would pull him by about a half a car to a car. Leaving with his stall locked we would be dead even.. Think your car is faster then his?? lol We can run again, just different color, thats all.

All I was saying is my car is a little bit faster than when you ran it. That is all. Again, it's still slow

[Evilevo]

^^ Dammnit you ahole!!! lol



You know I'm scared of Audi's!!! *runs and hides* If I bring the 55 out for the supra meet I will throw some tire in the turnk and I may be talked into making some runs if someone brings a trailer for me lol No guarantees

LOL, everyone is scared of stage 3s!!!!

I might be riding with you Ahmad(if thats cool), not sure if i want to drive or not

[blackbenzz]

LOL, everyone is scared of stage 3s!!!!

I might be riding with you Ahmad(if thats cool), not sure if i want to drive or not

I have to fix that caliper thing before the meet or the CLK180 isn't coming out to play

[Evilevo]

I have to fix that caliper thing before the meet or the CLK180 isn't coming out to play

If you need help friday morning or maybe thursday night if i come back than, ill gladly help you

[blackbenzz]

If you need help friday morning or maybe thursday night if i come back than, ill gladly help you

Thanks. It should be an easy fix. I must have fuxored up something when replacing the axle at the track. Just too lazy to get out there and check what it is

[Evilevo]

Thanks. It should be an easy fix. I must have fuxored up something when replacing the axle at the track. Just too lazy to get out there and check what it is

I agree, and the freezing weather doesnt help either!!! That is why the heated room with the Lift at Aidans is key ;)

[Sleeeper X]

There is consistency with skill......

Now bracket racing a 10 second manual turbo awd car does take some skill.

Mike, not everyone here knows what your talking about.... but GOD DAMN its fucking hard. Gota watch the tree, gota stage quick to get in to your launch pattern. Gota get ready, gota get in the zone where all you care about is that tree, gota step on the gas when its at the second yellow about to turn green. Its a rush.

[mike-2ptzero]

Mike, not everyone here knows what your talking about.... but GOD DAMN its fucking hard. Gota watch the tree, gota stage quick to get in to your launch pattern. Gota get ready, gota get in the zone where all you care about is that tree, gota step on the gas when its at the second yellow about to turn green. Its a rush.

Now try that on a pro tree.

[JDM EJ1 95]

woooo, wooo ,woooo

I am no expert, so take this with a grain of salt.

Why schedule 10 and not 40??? The last thing you want is that manifold to crack **** not like s4s are easy to work on............

sch10 is more than enough for anything on a set of s4 manifolds

[Maverick]

Now try that on a pro tree.

if Mike's co-pilot drives(his avatar), his will have a even faster 1/4 or 1/8 mile time, muhaaaaaa
j/k

[JRock637]

Man that was alot to read since last time i came in here over a week ago haha.

Alot of ppl with valid points who know alot about S4's( i don't know alot i don't own one.)

But in the world of drag racing you always have to go bigger obviously we all know this. But it's also about suspension, weight transfer, and good transmissions. Honestly the whole weight factor is not extremely important make 100 more whp over the previous guy saves you from gutting 100lbs of shit out your luxury car and turning it into a honda civic lol. I could have gutted my supra to go 9's this year but to me thats retarded. Not the way i wanna run my car, i want full weight street comfy times. I would assume most you guys agree on the comfort factor since your in Audi's. Hell my crappy supra interior keeps me happy i can't imagine why you all wanna keep your nice interior's.

Sorry im a big time supra guy it's all i know. But i did have a 300zxTT before with built Stillen long block, fuel system, ecu, baller clutch, and 18g turbo's ( i guess the closest thing to what you guys call the GT28's) And it made around 520whp. But them turbo's just start to max off there. ( i blew the seals out of my right turbo twice due to too much psi). But to the 300zx guy just cause the motor is the same concept as the S4 it's a COMPLETELY different motor. And for the record stock twin supra's are hitting 10's with stock motors just simple bolt ons. The sequential twins concept still works decent to this day.

Just the S4 is a very very challenging car to make twin turbo kit's for or singles. The guys doing it i give alot of respect to it's a tuff job. These are not drag cars at all and they are defying them odd's. Plus nothing is better than seeing the face of a STI driver who gets whooped by a 11 sec S4 lol.

[Evilevo]

Man that was alot to read since last time i came in here over a week ago haha.

Alot of ppl with valid points who know alot about S4's( i don't know alot i don't own one.)

But in the world of drag racing you always have to go bigger obviously we all know this. But it's also about suspension, weight transfer, and good transmissions. Honestly the whole weight factor is not extremely important make 100 more whp over the previous guy saves you from gutting 100lbs of shit out your luxury car and turning it into a honda civic lol.

Sorry im a big time supra guy it's all i know. But i did have a 300zxTT before with built Stillen long block, fuel system, ecu, baller clutch, and 18g turbo's ( i guess the closest thing to what you guys call the GT28's) And it made around 520whp. But them turbo's just start to max off there. ( i blew the seals out of my right turbo twice due to too much psi). But to the 300zx guy just cause the motor is the same concept as the S4 it's a COMPLETELY different motor. And for the record stock twin supra's are hitting 10's with stock motors just simple bolt ons. The sequential twins concept still works decent to this day.

Just the S4 is a very very challenging car to make twin turbo kit's for or singles. The guys doing it i give alot of respect to it's a tuff job. These are not drag cars at all and they are defying them odd's. Plus nothing is better than seeing the face of a STI driver who gets whooped by a 11 sec S4 lol.

Or the face of the supra owner when the S4 stays right there ;)

[JRock637]

Or the face of the supra owner when the S4 stays right there ;)

Haha hell ya...if that happen's 1 day Adam? jk!!!

But no seriously i'd love to see more fast S4's it's a car i always grew up loving and anyone can go build a 10 sec supra thats simple, hell even a honda to go 10's is even more common. But going out side the box is way cooler.

[Evilevo]

Haha hell ya...if that happen's 1 day Adam? jk!!!

But no seriously i'd love to see more fast S4's it's a car i always grew up loving and anyone can go build a 10 sec supra thats simple, hell even a honda to go 10's is even more common. But going out side the box is way cooler.

i agree. Cant build what everyone else is building.

BTW, i think from a 60 roll i can stay with you for a bit. ;)

[blackbenzz]

BTW, i think from a 60 roll i can stay with you for a bit. ;)

Are you gonna pull a turbo M3 move and disappear off the face of the planet (inside joke, nothing against turbo BMW's!)

[Evilevo]

Are you gonna pull a turbo M3 move and disappear off the face of the planet (inside joke, nothing against turbo BMW's!)

Naw, i was actually planning on slamming on brakes on the third honk ;) or maybe acting like i couldnt hear the horn. Or claim that i saw cops. Or make a ton other ricer excuses, like OMG my turbos arent real RS6ss

[AudiA4_20T]

HAHAHAH I dont even know the joke but if your implying that BMWs lose and somehow dissapear because they are too ashamed, Im in on it lol

[JRock637]

Haha that guy was lame Ahmad. He go's you on pump gas? I said yep. No meth? I don't use that junk. OH? im on race an meth. I said ok come on lets go...an he hits a exit ramp lol. My shit's slow on pump, stock timing, low boost, 480ish whp i guess?

[Evilevo]

HAHAHAH I dont even know the joke but if your implying that BMWs lose and somehow dissapear because they are too ashamed, Im in on it lol

LOL, no. A race was set up between a HPF stage 2 car and JRock. Right before the race, BMWguy decides to quickly swerve and take a exit and pussy out!!

oops, Jrock posted right before me

[Evilevo]

Haha that guy was lame Ahmad. I was on pump gas tune...in my car thats not fast, stock timing, low boost only 480whp. Anyways enough of me thread jacking audi guys sorry!

lol, got the quote before you edited it ;)

[AudiA4_20T]

lol nice... Sean (Don Supreme) raced an E46 M3 with me in the car... We were slowing down, and the dude just jumps on it, so he could get the edge. Well we caught up hard and blew the effing doors off his shit. We slowed down to about 40 (in a 65) for a few miles waiting for him to come up, but he never did

[Dr.Duct]

Are you gonna pull a turbo M3 move and disappear off the face of the planet (inside joke, nothing against turbo BMW's!)

usually i try to make it to the botom of the post before i make mine.. but that right there.. man thats some funny shit.

[Das General]

lol nice... Sean (Don Supreme) raced an E46 M3 with me in the car... We were slowing down, and the dude just jumps on it, so he could get the edge. Well we caught up hard and blew the effing doors off his shit. We slowed down to about 40 (in a 65) for a few miles waiting for him to come up, but he never did

Do you still have that video? There was some classic Clinton commentary on it.

[BITRBO]

i know of 6 cars in the 10s stateside as of now, first s4 to do it was a cali car owned by a shop then i think marc then me or the other way around cant remember at this point, then serabi with hood driving at etgp, then brenton out in michigan and then the colombian dude down in FL.

who frickin knows how many there are that arent talked about, it isnt uncommon to come across very built cars that we never hear about on the forums or people hustle on

That wouldn't happen to be a guy in Miami, under a shop called OzCars, would it? An all black S4 w/ fiberglasss fenders and deck lids? I'm pretty sure he's Colombian and I met him and his car... very, very fast.

[awdbiturbo]

That wouldn't happen to be a guy in Miami, under a shop called OzCars, would it? An all black S4 w/ fiberglasss fenders and deck lids? I'm pretty sure he's Colombian and I met him and his car... very, very fast.

His name is Gus. I sold him his transmission in 05. He was getting bashed on audiworld years ago, Then Disappeared. What ever happened to him??

[SpoolPastYou]

i dont drag race anymore...i found something better..its called brake racing..u know c who can stop the fastest...its the safest thing to a dangerous rush JAAAYYKAAYYYYY

ill be willing to bet at least 4-6 s4's go into the 10's this spring...and for the supra guy, those cars are amazing..but we will always have our luxury and driveability all year round and thats what myself and most s4 owners should pride themselves on...speed and versatility..cuz if we cant beat you at the track we will in the rain or snow haha

[JaredVL]

On a stock motor? I am not a nitrous guru by any means but I feel like anything over a 75 shot on a stage 3 on stock motor would snap some rods from the immense torque increase. Comments?

i ran a 150 shot over and over on a 100% stock engine

[GT2FAST]

How much do you guys think I should pay for a 2000 s4 black sprt pkg hr coilovers fmic and 66k mi on it I'm just buying the shell no motor or tran

[spinny]

i ran a 150 shot over and over on a 100% stock engine

whats turbos and how much boost?

[AudiA4_20T]

How much do you guys think I should pay for a 2000 s4 black sprt pkg hr coilovers fmic and 66k mi on it I'm just buying the shell no motor or tran

$5k

[xxbmxlsxx]

i ran a 150 shot over and over on a 100% stock engine

wet kit? i have a stage 2 car. i have a wet kit im taking off my lincoln ls that id like to put it on my s4. advice would be appreciated. not sure where to tap the fuel. do i need a bigger fuel pump? etc...

[BITRBO]

His name is Gus. I sold him his transmission in 05. He was getting bashed on audiworld years ago, Then Disappeared. What ever happened to him??

Yep, that's him. I met him a couple years ago just before and after I bought my S. He seemed like a cool guy, but I only spoke to him a few times (while at his Dad's shop). He told me a bunch of stories about his S4 beating modded RS6', M5's, and what not. I was a newb back then, but his car was a semi-gutted stage III+ with a TON of carbon fiber on it, so it seemed pretty logical. IDK, he couldn't been just talking shit, but the car definitely looked legit.

I'm not sure what happened him, but I know his Dad still owns that shop on 107th near FIU (OZ-Cars). As a matter of fact, I was planning to use their dyno last Saturday, but the wideband was apparently effed. Kinda pointless w/o it. Hopefully they'll have it fixed by this weekend, so maybe I'll run into Gus then...

[megafreakindeth]

direct port nitrious and nitrous gas wont do it? yes i know itll take some strengthing to handle the egts and driveline stress.

[nthusiastt]

If anyone spends anytime here they can clearly see why theres not many 10 sec cars, it's painfully clear why.

(1) I was told these turbos will make 700+hp because they have a 60lb comp wheel

(2) I was told the stock manis are the best

(3) I was told I could run 35lbs of boost

(4) I was told these 440cc injectors were good for 700hp

(5) I was told that the RS4 fuel pump was good to 1000hp

(6) I was told by this guy who knows another guys cousin that running the RS4 fuel filter was the key..

(7) I was told by a supra guy that if I did this because it work on my much larger motor that was the key

Heres why we haven't seen many in the 10ss, it's so clear why. Jared did something out of the box he figured out how to run a proper nitrous system on his car, 10 sec Marc figured lightening the car to go 10ss, asp figured making power on gtss. They all have 1 thing in common, "they didn't do what everyone else did,said,herd etc" They were all different and study the car and used a search button more then likely outside of AZ. Theres also no cheap JUNKYARD way to see 10ss I'm sorry but theres not

I'm glad reading through this entire thread there was actually 1 useful post.

Has anyone converted to rwd?

The only reason these cars haven't commonly gone 10's is there simply is no market for it. If there was more interest and information was more regularly shared it probably would be extremely common. That and most s4 owners I'm finding aren't really into wrenching on their own car and the cost of labor for these projects is somewhat staggering. Guro is a great example of someone who is truly contributing to the community. On H-T even shop owners share all the stats on how they took their cars to the limits they did. Also to the comment about reliability. I'm running an sc-61 with a onefab through an aem ems on stock internals in an unforged h22 that comes with roughly 156fwhp and making 411whp and have been for 2 years now. Compression is fine, no oil leaks and the motor has 142k miles on it. The 2.7T is fully capable of 750+ it's just the lack of people sharing of information. It really takes a collaborative effort to push an over engineered car weighing 3,800 lbs into the 10's. Shops have to post progress, test results, and share information but that just simply isn't the culture in the Audi world. Shops are more interested in profit margins or gaining an edge on the competition rather than interest in the vehicles actual progress. Anyone who has owned a Honda and modified it to the hills knows this. They really help each other. Hell, the owner of lovefab tought a class on how to make collectors. Stan from fast-turbo will recommend his competition if he feels he can’t fulfill your goals. It's the same situation with my M3. I got the shaft from so many shop owners trying to just sell a product. The DTM community really puts a bad flavor in your mouth.



I theorize that if shops and owners shared more information it would show the true potential of the vehicle and hardcore modders like myself would pay closer attention to the s4 platform. It would bring a larger flow of money through the community bringing prices down and increasing the availability. You'd have much more common 10 sec s4's and people would then be pushing for 9's and so on.

[Das General]

RWD is pointless. The drivetrain loss that you expect to gain, is very minimal.

[nthusiastt]

RWD is pointless. The drivetrain loss that you expect to gain, is very minimal.

The weight loss is what I'm interested in. During hard acceleration 90% of your power is being applied to the rear anyways. Also removing some of the weight from the front could help with understeer. It's comments like this again that fuel disinterest from shops. Really great shops are not interested in investing in a car and playing with the possibilities when the community is full of skeptics.

[Jung]

you can do it, it has been done.. i was even thinking of doing it... weld up the center differential in places and take off some of the front axles or something. But why do that? you'd need to spend more money strengthening the rear end of the car, since it wasnt meant to have ALL the power going through it. Go ahead and give us a before/after dynosheet of power differences. sure you could do sweet drifting and rwd burnouts, but i dont see a point to it in a car designed for use with Quattro. i doubt you'd free up much weight from the front of hte car anyways.. it's already fucking heavy up there

[nthusiastt]

you can do it, it has been done.. i was even thinking of doing it... weld up the center differential in places and take off some of the front axles or something. But why do that? you'd need to spend more money strengthening the rear end of the car, since it wasnt meant to have ALL the power going through it. Go ahead and give us a before/after dynosheet of power differences. sure you could do sweet drifting and rwd burnouts, but i dont see a point to it in a car designed for use with Quattro. i doubt you'd free up much weight from the front of hte car anyways.. it's already fucking heavy up there

I'm not really into drifting. My interst is more in 60-120 times the texas mile and trap speeds. 10's don't really blow my mind but trapping 130+ does. I may think about it in the future but when I start pouring money into my avant in a couple months I'll create a build thread for progression. Problem I'm having now is I don't have any garage space.

[Jung]

i'd love to see you do it and try something new and be successful with it.. it's always great to see tuning move forward to hte next level..