Build thread of Tiptronic GTRS, Running 100%

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^c'mon Vin floor it what are u waiting for? haha jk

[russcul boi]

hows the auto shifting going w/o the software? or are you just using the tip to diy

[A4natomical]

^^Kyle where have u been? when are u going to show me that 2.0 stroker?

ive been anti social. i haven't been going to any of the meets because im usually in class. summer is in 2 weeks, so I'll come out of hibernation.

[dougyfresh]

Fuel Filter in...those clips are bitches. Cars back to normal...but I'm spiking pretty high for the warm weather. Will report later. Car pulls noticiably faster...could be from driving a RDX for 2 weeks...

No, I think its because you are actually getting fuel now. Should have had you log injector duty cycle before and after







ER Sport ain't gonna cut it in the summers we have. That is why actlsub9 went to a ER Comp with his APR kit.

[timcoats]

Glad, there is discussion and talk here.

Just a lil update.

Manual B6 S4 vs me on 19-20psi timing 6. Dead even from 30-130

hey man love the car. i was originally looking at the b5 s4 but since im 17 i cant afford all the maitence of it. so i came to looking at b6 a4s. how does your car handle all the power with a tiptronic. any transmission issues and is it smooth cuz im looking to go gtrs too if i get a b6 a4. thanks for the help!

[protocol_droid]

how's she running still? I just read through this whole thread. Thanks for all of the insights and changes to look for with these kits and the tiptronic.

[dougyfresh]

how's she running still? I just read through this whole thread. Thanks for all of the insights and changes to look for with these kits and the tiptronic.

She was running well but is taking on a new transformation.


She will now sport a 2.0L stroker motor with a 6spd manual transmission.

[KPC1.8TQuat]

She was running well but is taking on a new transformation.


She will now sport a 2.0L stroker motor with a 6spd manual transmission.

Awesome. What turbo Vinny? Good luck.

[protocol_droid]

She was running well but is taking on a new transformation.


She will now sport a 2.0L stroker motor with a 6spd manual transmission.

I guess no longer fast enough with the tip and displacement. Going BAT?

[ZimbutheMonkey]

I thought I'd add my 2c here. I'm running a GTRS elim on a FWD tip. My only upgrades to the trans have been an IPT torque converter. I boost around 20 PSI with water/meth and so far I haven't run into any problems (knock on wood). After doing a substantial amount of research on the topic of BT tips I figure they can handle a GTRS elim with a TC and VB upgrade. This may extend to a GT2871r as well. However past that I'm not so sure.

I've seen mention here of stage 3 S4's with tip transmissions running 450HP though them. The problem is that many of these stage 3 S4's eventually blow the transmissions. I personally know a guy with a stage 3+ A6 that was running a 5HP-19FLA trans that eventually went kaboom. He then put a 6 speed in. I guess what I'm saying is that the 5-HP's aren't a bad trans, and with about $1500 worth of mods they can hold some decent power. However it's kind of like teaching an elephant to sprint; you can do it, but why bother.

That said, I also understand that it's not always how much power you make. Being innovative and probing areas that others haven't reached yet has it's own appeal (kind of why I've been running a GTRS tip). So hats off to you guys, it's nice to see people trying something different.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

I thought I'd add my 2c here. I'm running a GTRS elim on a FWD tip. My only upgrades to the trans have been an IPT torque converter. I boost around 20 PSI with water/meth and so far I haven't run into any problems (knock on wood). After doing a substantial amount of research on the topic of BT tips I figure they can handle a GTRS elim with a TC and VB upgrade. This may extend to a GT2871r as well. However past that I'm not so sure.

I've seen mention here of stage 3 S4's with tip transmissions running 450HP though them. The problem is that many of these stage 3 S4's eventually blow the transmissions. I personally know a guy with a stage 3+ A6 that was running a 5HP-19FLA trans that eventually went kaboom. He then put a 6 speed in. I guess what I'm saying is that the 5-HP's aren't a bad trans, and with about $1500 worth of mods they can hold some decent power. However it's kind of like teaching an elephant to sprint; you can do it, but why bother.

That said, I also understand that it's not always how much power you make. Being innovative and probing areas that others haven't reached yet has it's own appeal (kind of why I've been running a GTRS tip). So hats off to you guys, it's nice to see people trying something different.

So all FWD auto B6's are CVT where did u fit the Torque converter? u sure u don't have an AWD?

and a built 5HP19FLA should be good for at least 150whp over stock.

[ZimbutheMonkey]

So all FWD auto B6's are CVT where did u fit the Torque converter? u sure u don't have an AWD?

and a built 5HP19FLA should be good for at least 150whp over stock.

Nope no CVT or AWD, it's a 98 B5 Passat. As for the 150 WHP over stock, I'd be inclined to agree that a TC and VB upgrade would make for a fairly reliable setup. However past 300 AWHP (400 CHP) I don't think anyone can say for certain. Like I said, there are a lot of stage 3 S4's that have grenaded those transmissions. However they also make a lot more low end torque than a 1.8T or stoker 2.0. Fact is, it's kind of unknown territory. If you're willing to have a trans possibly die in the name of science then I say more power to ya. It just sucks that they cost $3000-$4000 to rebuild (ask me how I know).

[SleeperAvant]

Where in Canada are you? I'm probably running the biggest turbo setup on tiptronic here, but it's on mild boost at 18psi. Haven't had failure yet, but I am going to take her in for a fluid, filter and gasket change on the transmission.

[ZimbutheMonkey]

I'm in Calgary, what are the exact specs on your turbo? Also, how long have you been running it on the tip?

[SleeperAvant]

Garrett T3/T04E hybrid 50 trim turbo .63 AR housing. Been running it since March.

[ZimbutheMonkey]

Wow, you guys respond quick. I had a chance to check your build thread in the meantime. Have you been having any luck with the limp mode issue? Also, have you had the TC upgraded yet? I'm running an IPT unit and I've been really happy with it so far.

Here are a few pulls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A183rrnIV-A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f985Kxp5nYM

And a mod list and a few pics of Black Betty if you're interested: (Sorry if I'm threadjacking here)




Mods include

Engine (now stage 3+) :driving:
-GTRS (2860) eliminator
-Upsolute GT28 file
-VR6 MAF housing
-415 Genesis injectors
-AEM tru-boost EBC
-Innovate LC-1 wideband controller
-Westach EGT sensor
-Devil's Own DVC-30 W/M injection
-Eurospec Adjustable fuel pressure regulator
-TT 710N diverter
-APR turbo inlet pipe
-CAI intake w K&N filter
-034 big bore exhaust manifold
-Techtonics high flow cat
-2.5in exhaust
-Glasspack resonator
-Magnaflow sport muffler

Transmission
-Tip tranny sport recoding
-IPT Performance Torque Converter

Suspension,
-FK lowering springs
-KYB sport shocks
-New axles (Raxles)

Brakes
-TT carrier and A8 rotor upgrade
-PBR Ultimate Ceramic pads

Wheels and cosmetics
-18in enkei rims
-FK Badgeless Grille
-Smoked tail and signal lights

[SleeperAvant]

^ Nice. I haven't had the limp mode anymore...been running it at 19psi for 2 weeks. No problems. Stock transmission.

[SleeperAvant]

ugh.... let the grown ups talk please



iron vs aluminum block is meaningless.

the Evo's 4g63 motor is aluminum and it handles 500Awhp completely stock.

it's the toothpick rods inside the 1.8t that are the weakpoint. and the forged pistons/low compression ratio that allow for double the stock output.

all factory turbocharged engines are good for at LEAST double the factory output. the 1.8t is actually at the bottm of the scale right next to the WRX's 2.0l motor.

Just for the record, the Mitsu 4G63 block was cast iron, and the newer and current 4B11T (Evo X) block is cast aluminum.