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    Are you satisfied with it?

    Can i get this unit and install it or do i have to re-wire anything? I curently have this



    can i get cheaper than this price anywhere and staying oem?

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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    You have the symphony II+ head unit, so it is a pretty easy swap. Just did it last week myself. Your current wire harness is plug and play with the rns-e. You dont have to buy any adapters. It looks like you dont have Bose, so the only thing you have to do is relocate the K-line wire which is located in C7 and move it to B5 location. Everything is labeled on the harness, so its easy.

    The only things you will need are removal tools, dvd map, and Gps extension cable. You also need to recode a few things with vag-com. After doing this it is possible to get nav info displayed on the red center instrument cluster. Its a little glitchy though. Im pretty happy with mine overall. Still working out a couple things, but its a huge upgrade overall.

    If you need a dvd map I have an extra one, so pm me.

    I got my Rns-e sent over from this guy. You might want to bid on this one, as they usually sell for pretty cheap.
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    what about for those of us with bose?
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by rnp614 View Post
    what about for those of us with bose?
    Bose pin placement relocates from B5 to B7 slot.



    Dont worry, its not that hard. JK

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    thanks audi juice!

    i have also bluetooth, will this change or affect anything with this swap? and yes i don't have bose. Do all my steering wheel controls still work after a swap?
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    that picture is scarry looking.
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by 'mk4-turbo View Post
    thanks audi juice!

    i have also bluetooth, will this change or affect anything with this swap? and yes i don't have bose. Do all my steering wheel controls still work after a swap?
    You will basically have everything you now have and then some. The Rns-e has awesome capabilities with Bluetooth. I dont have the bt option, but I believe that it does not need any rewiring.

    Btw, if you buy a Euro unit it may need to be converted. Pm me and I will email you the files needed to convert

    Here are the codes you will need to adjust via vag-com.

    http://audiforum.us/knowledge-base/6...des-rns-e.html
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by 'mk4-turbo View Post
    Are you satisfied with it?

    Can i get this unit and install it or do i have to re-wire anything? I curently have this



    can i get cheaper than this price anywhere and staying oem?

    http://cgi.ebay.ca/AUDI-NAVIGATION-R...1%7C240%3A1318
    Why not just get a Garmin or something instead? Don't get me wrong, the factory GPS is nice, but not worth the $$$ in my opinion.

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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by 'mk4-turbo View Post
    Are you satisfied with it?

    Can i get this unit and install it or do i have to re-wire anything? I curently have this



    can i get cheaper than this price anywhere and staying oem?

    http://cgi.ebay.ca/AUDI-NAVIGATION-R...1%7C240%3A1318



    isnt it concert you have there? I have same exact unit as yours but mine written as concert..

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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    I currently have an external Garmin, hardwired in. I've been getting into interior mods now (s4 DTM wheel / abt pedals) and have been considering a new Nav unit in dash.

    Question for discussion... is it better to go RSN-e retrofit or Aftermarket? (thinking in terms of price - I have the same unit as OP, and Sirius)
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    no mine is symphany
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Audi Juice View Post
    Bose pin placement relocates from B5 to B7 slot.



    Dont worry, its not that hard. JK
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by 4RingRook. View Post
    I currently have an external Garmin, hardwired in. I've been getting into interior mods now (s4 DTM wheel / abt pedals) and have been considering a new Nav unit in dash.

    Question for discussion... is it better to go RSN-e retrofit or Aftermarket? (thinking in terms of price - I have the same unit as OP, and Sirius)
    How did you hardwire your Garmin? Where did you place the unit? Can you post pictures of yor set up?

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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by cgmiller63 View Post
    How did you hardwire your Garmin? Where did you place the unit? Can you post pictures of yor set up?
    I'll get some pics up soon, but its right next to the A-pillar, to the left of the steering wheel.

    I paid $50 bucks to have it done at my car stereo shop, so I'm not sure where it's wired to be exact.
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    For those of you have made the switch from Symphony II+ to the RNS-E...In order to get the nav instructions to show up in the red DIS, do you have to turn off and turn on the RNS-E? I do. Not a big problem....
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Yep, that's the only way to get the info displayed unfortunately. Just a quick off on. Not hard, but not very impressive if you have, well lets say, a female sitting beside you. Haha

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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by 'mk4-turbo View Post
    Are you satisfied with it?

    Can i get this unit and install it or do i have to re-wire anything? I curently have this



    can i get cheaper than this price anywhere and staying oem?

    http://cgi.ebay.ca/AUDI-NAVIGATION-R...1%7C240%3A1318
    http://www.navparts.com/index.php?ta...oduct_id=29778

    watch the video at the bottom on how to install
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Audi Juice View Post
    Bose pin placement relocates from B5 to B7 slot.



    Dont worry, its not that hard. JK
    That looks scary
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Audi Juice View Post
    You have the symphony II+ head unit, so it is a pretty easy swap. Just did it last week myself. Your current wire harness is plug and play with the rns-e. You dont have to buy any adapters. It looks like you dont have Bose, so the only thing you have to do is relocate the K-line wire which is located in C7 and move it to B5 location. Everything is labeled on the harness, so its easy.

    The only things you will need are removal tools, dvd map, and Gps extension cable. You also need to recode a few things with vag-com. After doing this it is possible to get nav info displayed on the red center instrument cluster. Its a little glitchy though. Im pretty happy with mine overall. Still working out a couple things, but its a huge upgrade overall.

    If you need a dvd map I have an extra one, so pm me.

    I got my Rns-e sent over from this guy. You might want to bid on this one, as they usually sell for pretty cheap.
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AUDI-A4-DVD-NA...3A1|240%3A1318

    how much was the shipping fro this guy?

    i forgot to mention...i have the oem ipod dock also....will this still work?

    thanks
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    can someone post pics of there oem navi please
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    I have a Euro RNS-E flashed with US Firmware.
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by Audi Juice View Post
    Bose pin placement relocates from B5 to B7 slot.



    Dont worry, its not that hard. JK
    am i seeing things or is there a key in that pic above??

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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post


    I have a Euro RNS-E flashed with US Firmware.
    Nice, what dock are you using for your ipod?
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by TurbousMaximus View Post
    Nice, what dock are you using for your ipod?
    It's an Ashtray dock from a company called 2point5. go to www.2point5.com to see what they offer.
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    I finally caved in and picked up a RNS-E even thought I had the TomTom software on my cell phone.

    I love the unit and now being able to listen to music off SD cards is sooooo much nicer than burning CDs.
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    You know what works better than that? An iPod hook up. But yea, the SD cards are awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    It's an Ashtray dock from a company called 2point5. go to www.2point5.com to see what they offer.
    How was the install with the Rns-e with that dock? Can you control the ipod from the headunit or ipod only?
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Does it have a CD slot?
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    CDs go in the DVD slot but then without the Nav DVD you lose Navigation.

    Only flaw I see in the RNS design. With higher capacity SD cards coming I wonder if the SW can be put on them instead?
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    so your telling me in order for the navi to work the dvd always has to be in?

    can't the maps save into the SD card?


    i really think i'm gonna buy one this week. this is like the finishing touch for the interior

    do you really have to remove the cluster for the instal? i think i would rather make the dealer install this.
    will this screw with my warranty


    wow i feel like a rambling little boy, lol
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    lol so far, the Maps cant be loaded onto sd cards, so dvd is the only way.

    You do need to remove the cluster to install the GPS antenna but its only to t20 screws. I have heard of people installing it into the glove box and it being ok so you can look into that. And it wont mess with warranty.
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    For those with the OEM bluetooth and OEM Ipod adapter in the glovebox, will any RNSE be compatible? Will I still have bluetooth and Ipod functionality displayed in the DIS/RNSE?

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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by TurbousMaximus View Post
    You do need to remove the cluster to install the GPS antenna but its only to t20 screws. I have heard of people installing it into the glove box and it being ok so you can look into that. And it wont mess with warranty.
    HUH???? What do you think that cool little shark fin antenna on our roof is for? Yes, you guessed it, its a gps antenna. Why in the hell would you pull the cluster out and put the antenna there?

    Anyway, the link below is for those who understand pictures better than written words.

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    B/c if you don't have GPS, there is no GPS antenna in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AudiWxGuy View Post
    B/c if you don't have GPS, there is no GPS antenna in there.
    Wtf? There is antenna there. That is what the shark fin is. Its an antenna. You just have to run a cable to it. Are you not using the roof antenna?

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    Well...it's actually more work to run the extension up to the sharkfin then it is to install the gps antenna that usually comes with the rns-e.
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Its so much more simple to put the gpsantenna behind the speedo instead of pulling two doorsil, backseat, c-pillar and to find the connecting fakra cable. it takes like 30 sec to mount the antenna. Ive done it my self. I hade a Concert II+ (thats the same unit as he has but his have a CD changer built in.

    The DVD slot works for CD but you cant get the mapscreen or navigate with the DVD out. The SD-cards have some limit in folders and in songs. The color DIS works flawlessly with the RNS-e. But if you have the red one youll need to turn off the RNS-e and back on again to see the instructions. I made the swap myself and everything you can have to the regular radio, such as: BT, Ipod, sirius. will still work and will plug right in the back of the headunit.

    I Bought a DVD-player and mounted it in the top of the glovbox and i bought a media-controle-interface so i can control the DVD-player with the butons of the steeringwheel and on the HU. Everything that worked before the swap will work afterwords. Its just plug n' play.

    But... (theres always a but...)

    Youll need to connect a VAG-Com cable and recode the DIS so it knows that you have a nav now. And you will have to get the RNS-e coded so it knows what options you have on the car, suchas BT-kit, Ipod, sirius, dvd exc...

    The radio reception will not be as good after the retrofit due to an missing antenna. But you can solve this with a VW golf divercity antenna module.

    I made the swap and i will do it tomorrow again if i get a new car.
    And oh! Bose or no-bose makes no diffrance!

    if you want more info visit http://www.navplus.us

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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    What DVD and media interface did you get?

    I'm thinking of putting one in so my passenger has something to watch during long roadtrips.
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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by F.An View Post
    Its so much more simple to put the gpsantenna behind the speedo instead of pulling two doorsil, backseat, c-pillar and to find the connecting fakra cable.
    See this is the mistake most people make. Nothing needs to be removed except one roof panel that pops off. The gps extension cable is so thin it tucks under the door sills without needing to remove them. I did it at night and it took 40 minutes. Im sure it would have been much easier with light.

    Also, the problem with an antenna mounted behind the cluster is that it will not have the same reception as the roof antenna. It has been tested and proven on some other threads. Both methods will work, I'm just a fan of getting as close to oem as possible.

    As far as the golf diversity antenna mod. I think that is mainly a European thing. I havent had much trouble with am/fm reception, but I know many people overseas have.

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    Re: People With OEM Navigation

    Quote Originally Posted by 4RingRook. View Post
    I'll get some pics up soon, but its right next to the A-pillar, to the left of the steering wheel.

    I paid $50 bucks to have it done at my car stereo shop, so I'm not sure where it's wired to be exact.
    x2...looks great..ez to use. ill post some pics soon of my set up.

    not a big fan of the OEM nav system. complicated and not touch screen.
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