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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

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    Quote Originally Posted by WMSpower View Post
    Nice race from both guys. Wish LA folks had more ping pong baslls to race some of our cars : )

    Just FYI there is no way that white car is making 700WHP . If it is, sorry to say but its a terd. Beating a ko4 based car by 3-4 cars in the 1/4 with 700WHP doesn't sound right. I think homie needs to dyno his car.. BTW whatsup with breaking rear-ends on that car ? Sorry to say but that car is not setup very well.

    Hats off to the ko4 car !!
    the wb s4 dynoed 709whp its definitly makin that not sure sure if he lowered his boost or not (somrhtin to ask him) but yes his car is nice and fast, he couldnt hook for shit between 1-2 gears. the rear end is stock it will break with so much hp and tq thrown at it.
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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    Quote Originally Posted by AMC83189 View Post
    the wb s4 dynoed 709whp its definitly makin that not sure sure if he lowered his boost or not (somrhtin to ask him) but yes his car is nice and fast, he couldnt hook for shit between 1-2 gears. the rear end is stock it will break with so much hp and tq thrown at it.
    Nice car but not for that much $$$ invested to run mid 11s.

    It doesn't take much power to break a rear-end on B5s. I've done it on a stock S4 back in 03. That car isn't setup well for street or 1/4 runs, It needs TLC or it'll break all the time.

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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    Quote Originally Posted by WMSpower View Post
    Nice car but not for that much $$$ invested to run mid 11s.

    It doesn't take much power to break a rear-end on B5s. I've done it on a stock S4 back in 03. That car isn't setup well for street or 1/4 runs, It needs TLC or it'll break all the time.
    car is capable of mid-low 10's without the DP nitrous. problem is gettin the car to hook between the 1-2 gears and doing it without breaking an axel and/or rear end
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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    Quote Originally Posted by AMC83189 View Post
    car is capable of mid-low 10's without the DP nitrous. problem is gettin the car to hook between the 1-2 gears and doing it without breaking an axel and/or rear end
    Thats on paper That car needs launch control or smaller turbos. I made 719WHP and street raced my car on 235/40/18 Falken 615s and didn't have any traction issues.

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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    Does anyone make an aftermarket rear for the b5 s4 ?
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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    Quote Originally Posted by AMC83189 View Post
    the wb s4 dynoed 709whp its definitly makin that not sure sure if he lowered his boost or not (somrhtin to ask him) but yes his car is nice and fast, he couldnt hook for shit between 1-2 gears. the rear end is stock it will break with so much hp and tq thrown at it.
    It put down that number on the ASP dyno, now lets seem him put that power down on a dyno that isn't owned by the company trying to use the numbers to sell parts.

    Isn't a little odd that both S4's that have put down over 700whp cant seen to trap anything higher then 129?

    Dont tell me they have problems hooking between 1-2 gear while running drag radials. We did not have any problems hooking in 2nd gear with all season tires, 650whp and still running 10.8 at over 130 mph in 90 deg temps.

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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    Quote Originally Posted by WMSpower View Post
    Thats on paper That car needs launch control or smaller turbos. I made 719WHP and street raced my car on 235/40/18 Falken 615s and didn't have any traction issues.
    WMS beast. Keep in mind your WMS beast wasn't full weight... therefore it is less likely to cause carnage during a launch.
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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    Quote Originally Posted by deb38 View Post
    WMS beast. Keep in mind your WMS beast wasn't full weight... therefore it is less likely to cause carnage during a launch.
    Great point ! but we had major traction issues until we setup our suspension and brakes for the car to carry speed and launch very hard.

    Our new shop car ( laser red ) should be in the same level but full weight. We'll see how she does later this month

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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    Quote Originally Posted by mike-2ptzero View Post
    Really? Even rolling the car off the line will net a 60 ft better then 2.5 and when does it take a 3.5 second reaction time to roll the car off the line?


    Even when I roll or bog my A4 GT35r, I still hit low 2 second 60 ft's and run low 11's at 134+ mph. Hell I have even had a 11.1 at 110 mph coasting all of 4th gear, that run had a 1.6 60 ft with a 7 flat at 104 mph in the 8th. So yes I know what can and can not effect ET, 60 ft and 1/4 mile times.
    Hey asshat.

    Were you there? Do you know exactly how the car was set up? Do you know what Mike's intentions were driving?

    You weren't and you don't, so you probably shouldn't be assuming. I don't care how many timeslips you have to your name, it doesn't make you an expert on a car you've never seen on a track you've never driven.

    The 2.5" short time was exactly what was described. Mike completely rolled out of the hole with zero launch. The other lane was empty, so the green r/t didn't matter. What did he do? I don't know, check his gauges, check that ESP was off, whatever. It doesn't matter. He wanted to get a trap speed in the books in case something broke when he started launching it.

    To the topic of launching it...

    This car had a 4:1 high bias center diff which turned out to be far worse than stock at launching. It would immediately send 80% of the power to the rear wheels meaning they'd spin instantly with the fronts doing almost nothing. The tires on the car are regular street tires (normal pressure, not air'd down), and the track had very little prep on a fairly cold day. It was more like a RWD car getting off the line. Think you can cut good 60' times on a RWD street tire (225 width) car with 600+ hp and no track prep? Somehow I doubt it.

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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    still waiting to see wms results of there laser red. hmmmm

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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    Quote Originally Posted by mike-2ptzero View Post
    It put down that number on the ASP dyno, now lets seem him put that power down on a dyno that isn't owned by the company trying to use the numbers to sell parts.

    Isn't a little odd that both S4's that have put down over 700whp cant seen to trap anything higher then 129?

    Dont tell me they have problems hooking between 1-2 gear while running drag radials. We did not have any problems hooking in 2nd gear with all season tires, 650whp and still running 10.8 at over 130 mph in 90 deg temps.
    Yes that is definately strange. I know they suffer from alot of traction problems, I was there one night at Atco watching ASP's red car..but what I dont get is Supra's with similar horse that only have RWD..granted decent tires, but not even drag radials, are still netting higher traps with the same horsepower levels than these cars are..And they are slipping like crazy, but still they are achieving higher trap speeds. Many are even still slipping in 3rd gear.

    You would think that with quattro, those sticky wheels they are using also, that you would get a higher trap speed with 700 horse....I dont get it.

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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    When I went at the track at the end of season, I pulled back 2 degrees of timing.

    Was running 20 psi max.

    The reason was I touhgt I had a slippling clutch, from the last dyno runs.

    I guess I was in the 520 to 530 whp and did the same numbers than that claimed 700whp car ?

    For me, the maths are done, it's BS
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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

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    Have you always been a fun hater? When I saw this I just new it was you....do you retain some sort of high moral authority because its worthless to post retarded large photos in a thread and have people like me have to complain about you , "quoting" you, and re posting. If you want to spread your wisdom just become a youth leader for your church, I'm sure they will appreciate it more and you will feel equally as good about yourself.....If you don't have anything to add to threads, don't post....some of us would like to learn and you just look for the next safety issue so you can take your moral ground....Pedophiles have these same characteristics....
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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

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    Does anyone make an aftermarket rear for the b5 s4 ?
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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    Quote Originally Posted by exorcet View Post
    "allegedly"

    so I wonder what FATS Anthony would get on race gas. If he was getting very low 3's with 91+T (i think his ratio = about 92 octane, right?) then i think it's plausible Rob/Marc could yield 2.9 on 93 octane.

    I know for a fact that its true, not an allegation

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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    If a car spins it will actually trap higher in the 1/4... unless they let off.
    Nut up or shut up

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnAll4S4 View Post
    mexicans and canadians are not people. i'd like to share a revelation that i've had during my time here. it came to me when i tried to classify your species and i realized that you're not actually mammals. every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you mexicans and canadians do not. you move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. there is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. do you know what it is? a virus. mexicans and canadians are a disease, a cancer of this planet. you're a plague and i am the cure.
    That seriously made my day. I couldnt stop laughing at first

    not saying i agree or not it just gave me a smile

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    Re: OEM K04 S4 vs. 700whp ASP GT28 3.0 S4 video

    ^too bad he stole it from The Matrix... Nice adaptation though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BITRBO View Post
    ^too bad he stole it from The Matrix... Nice adaptation though.
    Yea thats true! I was slightly disappointed after reading the whole thread. fail

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