Build Thread Version 2.0 for the avant

[Poopie]

This build will have a slightly bigger budget. Last time around I had a 3 week window and a smaller budget. I just didn't have enough cash or time to do exactly what I wanted. Hopefully I can get it right this time.. I'm picking up and AEB head this weekend off a friend to build in the mean time while I order and wait for parts to come in.

Already have:
Je Pistons
Scat Rods
20mm Pins
Piston rings
034 coated bearings
Powder Coated pulleys and tensioners
Gasket Set
BOV


In the mail:
Garrett Gt3076r .82 ar
034 valve springs
8 exhaust valves
Piping
FMIC

MAP based Meth kit


Still need to order
Tapp Software





Still lots of work ahead of me. Gathering parts is the worst part. Does anyone know where I can buy new valve seats for a 20v head?

[tamadrumr88]

check http://qedpower.com/ they should have most everything you need

[JumboBlack1.8]

Sounds like it should be an amazing built man.....can't wait til my budget allows me to do somethin like this. What kinda numbers are you shootin for?

[onemoremile]

Looks like a 400whp build to me.

[Poopie]

I'm hoping for 400 whp on pump 93.

[Don Supreme]

Good stuff, are you getting ti retainers?

[bassed]

Between you, me and Kevin's BAT we should be having lots of fun and pribaly the most accumulated B5 whp within a 10 mile radius:)

Why build the head so much, you don't drag race:)

[Poopie]

I wanna take it up to 8k. Plus it gives me a reason to have a large tach....JK

Might as well throw in springs while I'll have the head apart. I'm keeping the stock retainers. I'm told they would last longer. Like Ian said, this isn't a drag racer.


I'm still looking for a place that sells valve seats.

[94jedi]

wow poop, keep us updated on the build. I wish I had the money to do something like this...

[onemoremile]

I'm still looking for a place that sells valve seats.

Try scch-heads.com. They might be able to point you in the right direction.

[Euro-Tuner]

what do you do for work?

[Euro-Tuner]

...so are you going with 83mm pistons and an ABA crank?

[Nebone]

317ssayzarc (Jakes) head is fully built and I was in the car when it was hitting slightly under 8k. I'd definately say its worth it as you can get 70 mph out of 2nd gear that way and on.

Are you using the AWM block? AEG 2.0 8V crank fits that.

[Poopie]

Staying 1.8l. The extra grand to go .2l wasn't worth it for me. I also like to keep most of the build in house. If I went 2.0l I would have gone with a gt35. If the .82 ar proves to be too laggy, I have a .63 ar housing to slap on.

I work for a company designing/developing/research battery hardware design. Mostly lithium ion cells. I'm a full time student though for Electrical Engineering. Hopefully graduating.....sometime in the future. LOL

[Nebone]

Staying 1.8l. The extra grand to go .2l wasn't worth it for me. I also like to keep most of the build in house. If I went 2.0l I would have gone with a gt35. If the .82 ar proves to be too laggy, I have a .63 ar housing to slap on.

I work for a company designing/developing/research battery hardware design. Mostly lithium ion cells. I'm a full time student though for Electrical Engineering. Hopefully graduating.....sometime in the future. LOL

Thats what I would do and I also have an AWM. This might be the first documented AWM build here, minus the head. WIll you be using the hydraulic cam chain tensioner?

Electrical engineering is definately the foundation for the company you work for. I just graduated mechanical engineering last month.

[Poopie]

Actually it would be nice if I had an ME degree with material science. Oh well, at the moment its just a job and not a career.

Bassed has a built 2.0 AWM.

I'm going with the hydrolic tensioner. The tune will be for mafless, catless, sai delete, and VVT delete.

[Nebone]

Nice setup then, but I'd like to be running both MAF and MAP data.

I'd like to see the AMW torn apart in few shots. Mine is aching to leave the bay for a refresher.

What manifold?

[bassed]

Actually it would be nice if I had an ME degree with material science. Oh well, at the moment its just a job and not a career.

Bassed has a built 2.0 AWM.

I'm going with the hydrolic tensioner. The tune will be for mafless, catless, sai delete, and VVT delete.

Yup I have a 2.0 AWM, but an AEB head with VVT:) I think I'm the first fully built 2.0 for an AWM on here, AW and pretty much all the forums, but not the first to do so by any means:)

Tune doesnt need to delete VVT just unplug the sensor.

[bassed]

Nice setup then, but I'd like to be running both MAF and MAP data.

I'd like to see the AMW torn apart in few shots. Mine is aching to leave the bay for a refresher.

What manifold?

Why MAF? I truly see no point if you have a MAP.

[Squarrl]

does VVT do anything on our cars?

[Poopie]

Perhaps something with warmup

[Eurotuned_A4]

im curious what you guys building your engines do for passing emissions. I definately want to build mine very similar to what poopie is wokring on, but i gotta have the thing pass emissions.

[Squarrl]

Perhaps something with warmup

I have a bad Sarcasm filter

[Seerlah]

im curious what you guys building your engines do for passing emissions. I definately want to build mine very similar to what poopie is wokring on, but i gotta have the thing pass emissions.

I am no expert, but it is not the engine build per se but the bigger turbo set up that needs to pass inspection. In my state, to pass emissions they simply use the little OBD port during inspection. Other states work different. If the engine throws a code, you simply do not pass inspection. Whether that be for a light bulb to emissions. That is why a tune for a Big Turbo set up is very important, among other reasons. Another reason why so many go the Unitronics route or the CTapp route. They remove any emission codes that would barr you from passing inspection.

*no expert, just what I know

[Eurotuned_A4]

doesnt really matter for me right now since the county i live in doesnt require emissions. maybe ill just keep the car registered here....lol. once i upgrade it would be all sorted out. uintil then i watch everyone else build their engines while my rods sit under my bed

[pac1085]

I run the car on the stock ecu, maf, injectors, etc when it's time for inspection. Hope it's still able to complete all the readiness tests with the 2.0 though!

[t1demont1]

inspection?! Us Florida boys dont have to deal with this headache :D

[Poopie]

as long as you can trick the ecu you are fine. You just need to find a place that doesn't do a visual inspection.

Ian passed with no issues. Usually pepboys doesn't give a shit.

[bassed]

im curious what you guys building your engines do for passing emissions. I definately want to build mine very similar to what poopie is wokring on, but i gotta have the thing pass emissions.

I pass with flying colors here in PA. I have no issues, there is no visual and I have no codes due to the programming when it comes to emissions related items.

[quattro16]

Or you can just be like me and have an inspection liscense.

[Poopie]

i don't wanna talk about inspections. firestone busted my bumper doing mine and they are not paying for it....bitches...

[t1demont1]

That shit is rough.

[Poopie]

went shopping on ebay. I purchased everything except the tune...now i'm just waiting for chris tapp to e-mail me back

[Seerlah]

What is it you got off of ebay, if you don't mind me asking? I just want to know of more things that are safe to purchase from ebay. Thanks!

[Nebone]

What is it you got off of ebay, if you don't mind me asking? I just want to know of more things that are safe to purchase from ebay. Thanks!

Branded stuff is good to buy off ebay. If you're looking for a boost controller or something and its original Greddy or Apexi then get it. If its a replica from China then you don't.

I hope to see all these BT cars from PA during Waterfest.

[bassed]

Branded stuff is good to buy off ebay. If you're looking for a boost controller or something and its original Greddy or Apexi then get it. If its a replica from China then you don't.

I hope to see all these BT cars from PA during Waterfest.

BT? You mean BAT Poopie doesn't do shows. Dietbudda will be at Cult Classic and H20, he has a crazy build going on right now as well. I will be at Cult Classic, WF and H20.

[Nebone]

O'cmon...

The more the marrier.

[Poopie]

some flanges, BOV adapter flange, intercooler piping.

[Poopie]

Branded stuff is good to buy off ebay. If you're looking for a boost controller or something and its original Greddy or Apexi then get it. If its a replica from China then you don't.

I hope to see all these BT cars from PA during Waterfest.

i'll probably go to waterfest.....i'm not really a show person.

[dougyfresh]

Where do you get an extra grand to go 2.0L?

06a block:
$300 for a cast crank
$300 for machining and honing
piston and ring cost is built in already since you're getting forged pistons (unless you already had 81mm forged pistons somewhere)
bearings are already built in since you're doing them anyway