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    Costco Gas...Good or Bad?

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    For that matter, how do you know if name brand stations have decent gas? I read a few years ago that name brand stations have the option of buying cheap gas and that just because you go to a Chevron/Unocal/BP/etc. doesn't mean that you are getting "good" gas. I would think that this will become a major concern (if it isn't already) with stations trying to attract consumers with low prices while still generating a decent profit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dodge2Dub View Post
    For that matter, how do you know if name brand stations have decent gas? I read a few years ago that name brand stations have the option of buying cheap gas and that just because you go to a Chevron/Unocal/BP/etc. doesn't mean that you are getting "good" gas. I would think that this will become a major concern (if it isn't already) with stations trying to attract consumers with low prices while still generating a decent profit.
    Costco usually carries good products across-the-board. I've used their gas, high-test, for quite a while, and I don't notice any difference.
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    Re: Costco Gas...Good or Bad?

    Most gas is the same. However, there are retailers that offer something above the rest...

    http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html
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    It is my understanding that some top tier stations do not necessarily always offer their top tier namesake. So, is Costco buying their gas from a top tier distributor?
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    Gas is a commodity. There may be minor additives at each distributor, but overall the difference is going to be negligible.
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    Both cars I have require 91+, and being that one is basically a toy that is modded and the other is my DD and will be getting chipped here pretty so. I am pretty picky on what gas I get. My dad actually went around town and took samples of a bunch of different gas stations. He found that Shell had the least amount of water in the gas, and os that is what we always run.
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    IMO. we should have full service gas stations at near $4 a gallon.

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    Shell is the only top tier in my area, I use them as much as possible, damn the extra couple of pennies, not worth it to be cheap on probably the most important part of the engine/performance equation. Anyone reading this should really check out the top tier site. Why would the manufacturers bother to do this unless they felt that it is a problem?

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    Re: Costco Gas...Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster Stealth View Post
    Both cars I have require 91+, and being that one is basically a toy that is modded and the other is my DD and will be getting chipped here pretty so. I am pretty picky on what gas I get. My dad actually went around town and took samples of a bunch of different gas stations. He found that Shell had the least amount of water in the gas, and os that is what we always run.
    Was Chevron one of the samples of gas he tested too?
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    Re: Costco Gas...Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by OneSickSedan View Post
    Was Chevron one of the samples of gas he tested too?
    Nope, there are not that many chevrons around here. Shell was number 1, and BP was second. The only other thing I remember him telling me was to stay away from marathon. The only other one I want to test is the sunoco. There is one around here that has 94 at the pump.
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    Re: Costco Gas...Good or Bad?

    This quote from the top tier Web site answers the question of whether the gas at the individual stations is of the same quality as their respective namesake.

    In addition, all gasoline outlets carrying the brand of the approved retailer must meet the TOP TIER standards.

    Of course the next question is, who actually owns/operates the top tier site considering it's a dot com instead of a dot org.
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    FWIW, Shell gas is no more expensive in NoVA than any other brand. In fact the station by me is usually a penny or two less than the Sunoco, Exxon, and Mobil stations - and they are all less than 1 mile apart. Regardless, Shell is listed as a top tier brand and my butt dyno says it runs a little better. I've seen generic delivery trucks at all of the stations except for the Shell. It is admittedly circumstantial, but I think there is a chance Shell is actually doing something different.
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    :x i gas up costco in my 240sx all the time haha.
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    Re: Costco Gas...Good or Bad?

    My service tech told me that the fuel detergents in some gasolines (V-power from Shell and Techron from Chevron in particular) make a huge difference, especially in direct injection engines. Early on people were getting misfires and this cleared the problem.
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    Take apart an engine that runs on Chevron gas. It'll look real clean. That's the only gas that goes into my cars.

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    Re: Costco Gas...Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by va-terps4 View Post
    Most gas is the same. However, there are retailers that offer something above the rest...

    http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html
    Good reference site.

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    I accually work at costco, and thier gas is as good as anywhere else. i allways fill up there, the 92oct is cheaper and the car runs the same as it does filling up at any gas station
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    I use Shell V-Power anytime I can. I did on my last car, I will on my next car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JetBlue View Post
    Gas is a commodity. There may be minor additives at each distributor, but overall the difference is going to be negligible.
    i totally disagree...get some bad gas once and you'll understand. your car won't run.

    top tier gas stations, ie. name brands shell, conoco, BP, chevron and others must all purchase top tier gas. it is part of their franchise agreements. you can't own a shell and purchase lower grade quality because that's what the brand stands for.

    i try to only use shell, we don't really have chevron out here in CO. at the end of the year shell's higher prices probably equates to two more tanks of gas, if even that. i can live with the cost of two tanks for the cause of a healthy car!

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    For me the price difference between Costco gas and a name brand is about 6 tanks of gas per year. If there is a big quality difference, I'll eat the cost. If not, then Costco it will continue to be.
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    i actually own a 7-11 gas station and i asked the person that fills up the tanks at my store a question about quality gas and he told me that he delivered the same gas to Chevron and shell and all those exspensive gas staions he recomends to goto new gas stations where the pipes are not old and dont have water in them. i have very hi end cars and usually fill up at the 7-11 because it has been serviced and has no water in the pipes but if i have to fill up somwhere i always fill up at a costco because they have fairly new pumps.

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    do a self check, buy a few small white ceramic plates. pour three tea spoons of fuel on them and burn. compare the residue after cool down, the whiter the plate remains the cleaner the fuel....chevron was best here.
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    hhhmmm, good info... I too am on the Shell train... and I really like that Evolution of F1 commercial they had... lol
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    Re: Costco Gas...Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by momoney View Post
    i actually own a 7-11 gas station and i asked the person that fills up the tanks at my store a question about quality gas and he told me that he delivered the same gas to Chevron and shell and all those exspensive gas staions he recomends to goto new gas stations where the pipes are not old and dont have water in them. i have very hi end cars and usually fill up at the 7-11 because it has been serviced and has no water in the pipes but if i have to fill up somwhere i always fill up at a costco because they have fairly new pumps.

    How come you dont eat your own cooking by getting gas from your own station? I am sure its cheaper then the what we consumers pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by simona View Post
    How come you dont eat your own cooking by getting gas from your own station? I am sure its cheaper then the what we consumers pay.
    i actually don't get discounts because i make 50% of gas that is sold and the other 50 goes to the company.But one thing that is beneficial is that i know when gas is gonna get cheap and that is when i fill up my tanks.

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    Don't waste your time worrying about "good gas and bad gas." It's fucking gasoline. Sure, you'll get a "bad tank of gas" from time to time, but that can happen at a top tier retailer or some backwater place in Canada.

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    Anybody know anything about BP? They have 92 octane and invigorate, that's the only gas that goes in my car as of now.

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    Re: Costco Gas...Good or Bad?

    I posted this in another thread a while back..



    Quote Originally Posted by ...Mark... View Post
    All gas stations in a particular region get their gas from the same source. For me in Atlanta my gas comes directly from the oil refineries in Houston via the colonial pipeline. The different companies that that distribute gas from the pipeline to the dealers (independent stations) all pick up from the same distribution point regardless if its Shell, Exxon Mobil, BP, or whatever.. Now the only difference between the different companies are the different additives that they put into the fuel. Chevron has Tecron, Shell has V-power if i am not mistaken and so on. Its all the same identical gas, its just the additives that make them brands different.

    The grey area is when you buy from an unbranded station or chain. In Atlanta QT is big but when you buy QT you never know what you are getting because QT is a convenient store chain that sells gas but meanwhile they are not branded or aligned with any one company. They literally buy their gas from the fuel distributer that will sell it to them for the cheapest price. Sometimes that gas doesn't have any additives, sometimes it has Valero's additives, sometimes it has Hess's additives etc.. They buy what they can get at the cheapest price and pass that savings onto the customer which is a good thing, but at the same time you are not getting a consistant blend, and at times there are not any additives at all in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by momoney View Post
    i actually don't get discounts because i make 50% of gas that is sold and the other 50 goes to the company.But one thing that is beneficial is that i know when gas is gonna get cheap and that is when i fill up my tanks.
    Hah, a Hindu who owns a 7-11. What are the odds of that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by momoney View Post
    he recomends to goto new gas stations where the pipes are not old and dont have water in them. i have very hi end cars and usually fill up at the 7-11 because it has been serviced and has no water in the pipes but if i have to fill up somwhere i always fill up at a costco because they have fairly new pumps.
    gotta agree with this, i'd rather get cheap gas from a new gas station than fancy gas from an old one. (or the newer station if it costs a little more than the old station). but there's a newish shell by where i live, price is usually average, and much closer to me than costco. so i go to that. i take what i can get with this 91 craptane out here. and also, some 'new' gas stations that were built on old gas stations sometimes use the old underground tanks IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by momoney View Post
    i actually own a 7-11 gas station and i asked the person that fills up the tanks at my store a question about quality gas and he told me that he delivered the same gas to Chevron and shell and all those exspensive gas staions he recomends to goto new gas stations where the pipes are not old and dont have water in them. i have very hi end cars and usually fill up at the 7-11 because it has been serviced and has no water in the pipes but if i have to fill up somwhere i always fill up at a costco because they have fairly new pumps.
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    It's 8 miles out of my way, but I only use Shell V-power in my car. In my B6 S4 I wasn't so picky as it wasn't such a concern on a NA car. But with the RS6, one tank of bad gas can ruin your month. If the knock sensors detect detonation, they cut back timing and boost. It can take up to 4 tanks for the ecu to come out of it's "panic room" and restore performance. The S4 with its 11.1 compression should have pretty sensitive knock sensors as well, but the change in performance might not be as noticeable. I wouldn't risk a cheap tank of gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by momoney View Post
    i actually own a 7-11 gas station and i asked the person that fills up the tanks at my store a question about quality gas and he told me that he delivered the same gas to Chevron and shell and all those exspensive gas staions he recomends to goto new gas stations where the pipes are not old and dont have water in them. i have very hi end cars and usually fill up at the 7-11 because it has been serviced and has no water in the pipes but if i have to fill up somwhere i always fill up at a costco because they have fairly new pumps.

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    DOes anyone notice any differences in their MPG depending on which gas they use? When I was in the Navy, I was stationed in Orlando for a bit over a year, but I was from San Antonio (which is where my gf was :)). I used to drive from FL to TX once every couple of weeks for a night or two (24 hrs each way, I would do it non-stop), and being I was enlisted and poor as hell (hence no flying), I used to experiment with using different types of gas to see if what the difference was. I had enough distance and enough trips to rule out environmental differences I think, and at the time Phillips 66 was 3-4 MPG more than anything else, and I think Shell was second.

    That was 10 years ago, so I think I will try it again now, and depending on my results I will post a new thread and see if anyone else want's to play.

    On a side note, BP is the only station here with 92 octane, but is not top tier, lame! On the other hand Stehpen Kasper from Imagine Auto here (Porsche and Audi guru) only uses BP in his 997TT when not using race gas (if he even uses race gas, I never asked), and I trust his opinion:

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    Re: Costco Gas...Good or Bad?

    That website doesn't seem very official, and it's hard to say how current the info is. This line doesn't sound very "authoritative":
    The retailers known to be on the TOP TIER list are shown below
    http://www.toptiergas.com/index.html

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    wow, this is an old ass thread...why has it been revived?
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    Re: Costco Gas...Good or Bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by channad View Post
    wow, this is an old ass thread...why has it been revived?
    Because I rule! LOL!
    Cool stuff with a little growl!

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