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    Question Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

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    I'm changing my rear brake pads this weekend and I wondering do I need a brake caliper piston reset tool or can I get away without one, and if so which one is best for the least amount of $$.


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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    you could go get one or you could just use a wide flat head and turn them clockwise while you push them in...

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    just go buy one at advance auto and return it...its basically their rental process...its like $109

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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Quote Originally Posted by n7plus1 View Post
    just go buy one at advance auto and return it...its basically their rental process...its like $109
    +2 on the rental. Or you can go buy a "Brake cube" from AutoZone or similar for a few bucks and compress the piston with a little elbow grease.


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    ^wtf, i never saw one of those...thats hardcore.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    You have never seen a "cube of death"???? I still have one I picked up in 1970!!

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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Quote Originally Posted by old guy View Post
    +2 on the rental. Or you can go buy a "Brake cube" from AutoZone or similar for a few bucks and compress the piston with a little elbow grease.
    ^Thats what i was going get but I didn't no if it would work for my car!

    The rental idea is good but $100+ is a lil too much right now

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    i cant imagine twisting that with my bare palm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty View Post
    ^Thats what i was going get but I didn't no if it would work for my car!

    The rental idea is good but $100+ is a lil too much right now
    first of all I don't think the rental will be $100. I rent a spring compressor from AutoZone about once a year for $45 (fully refundable). And I had to file down the sides of the round pins on the cube to get it to work on the VW/Audi rear caliper pistons.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Quote Originally Posted by n7plus1 View Post
    i cant imagine twisting that with my bare palm...
    No no no. it clicks into a ratchet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n7plus1 View Post
    i cant imagine twisting that with my bare palm...
    You use a ratchet and extension to press and turn the cube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old guy View Post
    first of all I don't think the rental will be $100. I rent a spring compressor from AutoZone about once a year for $45. And I had to file down the sides of the round pins on the cube to get it to work on the VW/Audi rear caliper pistons.
    Cool thanks old guy! I think I'm just going to get the brake cube and file down the sides like u said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty View Post
    Cool thanks old guy! I think I'm just going to get the brake cube and file down the sides like u said.
    As I mentioned, the one I have is pretty old. If you get a new one I guessing that one of the pin sets should work just fine without any filing.

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    thanks for everyones help!!



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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Yeah, the new ones have a pin set that work. I got the disc compression kit from harbor freight, and that makes things effortless then.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    100 BUCKS?!?! No way...

    You need Schwaben Piston tool. It's 40 bucks, comes in a case, and has all the attachments for nearly every vw/audi there is (some other european cars too). I think the only place where it's easy to find is ECS, that's where I had to get mine. Definitely get it, you'll tear your hair out doing it without the tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty View Post
    No no no. it clicks into a ratchet.
    see...i told you ive never seen that before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by topcat View Post
    Yeah, the new ones have a pin set that work. I got the disc compression kit from harbor freight, and that makes things effortless then.
    Agreed. I have long since replaced my "cube of death" with a decent compression kit but I certainly got my $$ worth out of it!

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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    ^^^x2 I got the cube years ago to work on my GTI, total POS! I bought the brake tool from ECS. Well worth the $40!

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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    I haven't done brakes on my Audi yet but most cars I just use a c-clamp or big channel lock pliers.
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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Quote Originally Posted by DELUX View Post
    100 BUCKS?!?! No way...

    You need Schwaben Piston tool. It's 40 bucks, comes in a case, and has all the attachments for nearly every vw/audi there is (some other european cars too). I think the only place where it's easy to find is ECS, that's where I had to get mine. Definitely get it, you'll tear your hair out doing it without the tool.
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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeM View Post
    I haven't done brakes on my Audi yet but most cars I just use a c-clamp or big channel lock pliers.
    you know what's wierd?

    i thought the c-clamp wouldn't work on our cars because it wouldn't turn the piston while compressing. but i used one on my rear brakes and it worked. go figure.

    btw. someone should hack up an old ratched, get a cube of death, and weld the square end of a ratchet on the end of a c-clamp.
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    why's everyone complaining about $100...you just take it back and get your money back...its an entire kit, so theres like 20 tools in it...pretty much everything you need.

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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Quote Originally Posted by n7plus1 View Post
    why's everyone complaining about $100...you just take it back and get your money back...its an entire kit, so theres like 20 tools in it...pretty much everything you need.

    I think its because the one that is $35 does the exact same job...100 is redunkulous
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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Quote Originally Posted by B6Lovin View Post
    i thought the c-clamp wouldn't work on our cars because it wouldn't turn the piston while compressing. but i used one on my rear brakes and it worked. go figure.
    How is that possible? The rear caliper piston needs to rotate and can't just be 'pushed in' like the fronts.




    Here are some brake caliper piston tools for under $50:
    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=97143

    similar to ECS'
    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40732

    Schwaben Piston tool (ECS #9747)
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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Quote Originally Posted by I Audi5K I View Post
    I think its because the one that is $35 does the exact same job...100 is redunkulous
    WTF is wrong with you people, you go there, pay 100 bucks, take the tool home use it, take it back and they refund you 100 bucks. It costs you NOTHING!!!

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    The C-clamp works because the end portion of the clamp has a rotating face. The friction pressure of the rotating face allows it to turn with the piston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4ringedONE8T View Post
    WTF is wrong with you people, you go there, pay 100 bucks, take the tool home use it, take it back and they refund you 100 bucks. It costs you NOTHING!!!
    exactly...i dont know how they dont get that

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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Quote Originally Posted by dougyfresh View Post
    How is that possible? The rear caliper piston needs to rotate and can't just be 'pushed in' like the fronts.




    Here are some brake caliper piston tools for under $50:
    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=97143

    similar to ECS'
    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=40732

    Schwaben Piston tool (ECS #9747)
    http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd/...category=Tools
    what the guy a couple posts up said -- i didnt think it'd work either, but didnt feel like going to get a tool so i tried it anyways, and it worked. there was enough friction to hold the piston, and it turned as it went in
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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Quote Originally Posted by woofster View Post
    The C-clamp works because the end portion of the clamp has a rotating face. The friction pressure of the rotating face allows it to turn with the piston.
    Strange. Because I had to turn the piston quite a bit to get it back in there. My pads weren't even that worn too. Took more force with the piston retractor tool than I'd think you'd get form a C-Clamp.

    Either way, if it worked for you then great. I have the piston retractor tool so I just use that all the time now. $30 is cheap in my book for another good tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4ringedONE8T View Post
    WTF is wrong with you people, you go there, pay 100 bucks, take the tool home use it, take it back and they refund you 100 bucks. It costs you NOTHING!!!
    Ya but you need the $100 in the first place to buy the damn thing!

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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Ah, the trusty ol CubeO'Death....
    Used & bloodied many a time over the years.


    My Audi laughed at it.


    Really. No amount of pressure and turning would convince the piston to retract. Yes, I'm old and have abused many a caliper over the years, but these needed "The Tool"

    I now own the schw...sc..... the one ECS sells......

    Glad to have it, and it's got the different adapters making it worth it just to avoid using c-clamps on my future caliper abuse missions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gotquattro View Post
    The power bleeder too is handy...

    The Motive Power Bleeder is money. Makes life SO much easier. It was effortless to do my brakes.

    I think the hardest part was getting that lower rear caliper bracket bolt out.
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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    Quote Originally Posted by n7plus1 View Post
    exactly...i dont know how they dont get that
    Well, it's not $100 to rent the tool. It's $35 to rent their tool (I've rented it multiple times now from various autozones). $35 sounds better than $100 even though u get your money back

    To those who don't know, they charge $35 and then you get it refunded when you return it.
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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    If you do not have either of the tools mentioned you can use needle nose pliers. Make sure that you apply enough pressure and then turn clockwise. It will accuate the mechanism and the piston will begin to retract.

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    I've heard of ppl doing this, but I wouldn't recommenced it as the break cube was a PITA!
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    I have this one and it works great.
    http://www.ecstuning.com/Audi-B6_A4-.../Tools/ES9747/

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    Re: Brake Caliper Piston Tool??

    the same tool ECS sells is also sold at harbor freight for $20, and it works perfectly

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    Quote Originally Posted by A4ringedONE8T View Post
    WTF is wrong with you people, you go there, pay 100 bucks, take the tool home use it, take it back and they refund you 100 bucks. It costs you NOTHING!!!
    I know this is a very old thread, but I a cracking up over here! It was clear to me the first time you said it that this is a RENTAL deposit, you get your money back. Yet I can't believe how many morons don't read critically and keep saying "I can't afford $100."

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