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    Question HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

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    Hey fellows....


    Just picked up a avant for the winter, its a 2.8 Quattro 5 speed 1998 model. Car drivers great and is awesome, to say the least this will not be my last avant!

    However, there is a weird thing happening in first gear, it makes some winding mechanical noise (hard to explain), but kinda sounds like a loud winding belt noise or something like that (sometimes more, sometimes less). But the strange thing is that it ONLY makes that noise in FIRST GEAR, second, third fourth and fifth are all good, as is the reverse.

    I have no idea what it is, but I had the car inspected before I bought it, there were no faults (except a tie rod end, that soon will be replaced).

    Can my transmission be going out? has anyone had this problem? I searched the forum, but couldnt find a symptom like this yet. so Please fill me in if you have an idea about what could possibly be wrong with my new baby. :)

    Thanks in advance!

    Edward

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    i got a 97 12v fwd and my first gear sounds bad to, someone told me throwout bearing, but i think its the 151k miles/5 owners on the tranny
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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    weird. does it sound like honda transmission in reverse? thats got a funny wind up toy noise. or is it more high pitched like a supercharger?

    I know my dad's old series of Jeeps that he had all used to make a high pitched noise like you describe whenever starting from a standstill. It was the rear diff and completely normal. It would start out in a mid-high sound range and eventually just disappear as the car went faster.

    My best suggestion is to put some new synthetic gear oil in the transmission and both differentials and see if that takes care of it.

    I think all cars with a rear diff make some sort of noise like that, in some cars its more pronounced than others. My old E30 325I used to make that noise when I got on it in first. I though it sounded pretty cool.

    Anyway I wouldn't worry too much about it unless it starts to sound like grinding or some other type of noise that hints at destruction. Meshed gears under load make noise naturally.
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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    I guess you could explain it like that reverse wind up honda noise... except, this is way louder... sounds like a honda in reverse but loud and a fan belt going to shambles at the same time.... Its strange, and worries me because its only in first gear. Could it mean that the first gear is worn the F#%* out? :(

    Also, its distinctively louder if windows are down. obviously... :)

    Appreciate all the feedback! Wish I could buy a round of beers....

    Cheers!

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    she does have 118k on her...

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    Well, if its actually as loud as you say, your 1st gear really could be worn the hell out. I've never heard of a forward gear sounding like you describe.

    My only advice at this point is that if replacing the gear oil doesn't work, it time for a mechanic to take a look. but it sounds pretty bad the way you're describing it, maybe you should just have it looked at ASAP and then go from there.
    1997 A4 1.8T FWD Manual - K03 - (TOTALLED, BUY MY PARTS!)

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    Its on its way... fill you in when she is done...

    Ed

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    thats odd, my first gear makes the same noise, except it was doing it at 58k...Hope someone comes through with an answer!
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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    Going in tomorrow morning, hear the verdict shortly...

    Yours started at 58k, how many miles now? Shoudl I worry?

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    Hey guys, problem is MAJOR!!!

    Just kidding, its not really, the fault lies in a worn bearing in the transmission on first gear, my mechanic, who by the way is very good with german, and specialized on the Audi cars, said to me today that he could if I wanted to take the transmission down and fix the problem, then put it back. But he also told me that that would be a minimum of 800 dollars (giving me a deal), might go up a little. So I asked if I can drive on it for now, and he said sure, that it probably will not be that big of a deal, but that if it starts to make more noise I should definately get it looked at again.

    So! For all you people with noisy first gears, drive it til it dies! Then buy a better transmission, like one from a S4. :)

    If you have any questions.... PM me!

    Ed

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    Veteran Member Three Rings grip_racer's Avatar
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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    awesome, good to hear its driveable

    it sucks you don't have a 1.8t, you could probably pick up a used transmission for about $200 as they are much more common.

    But hey, i bet if you keep checking ebay and the forums for part-outs, a 2.8 transmission wouldn't be out of reach at a good price.

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    My first gear has been sounding like a tractor for almost a year now. Still driveable, I just shift into second asap.
    Totalled 12/4/07.

    ^12.6 @ 110mph

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    Hell yes, tractor style! How many miles do you guys have on your cars?

    Ed

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    88k, I'm going to wait til my trans is undrivable before I fix anything... it's a waste IMO, just an annoying noise I can live with.
    Totalled 12/4/07.

    ^12.6 @ 110mph

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    ^^^OMG, you're still alive

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    Been there done that. I know exactly what the problem is. There is a tooth missing off of first gear. My 1.8T had the same problem. Unfortunately it's a fairly common problem.

    I was told the early cars had a problem with first gear getting chipped. First gear is part of the main shaft. So the shaft has to be replaced to repair it.
    Alex

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    sounds like the reverse in the 2.0 mk3's. the ticking noise was from chipped teeth.

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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    Quote Originally Posted by dingguhlbary View Post
    sounds like the reverse in the 2.0 mk3's. the ticking noise was from chipped teeth.
    ya mk3 2.slows have the noisyest gears
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    Veteran Member Four Rings BranCKY3's Avatar
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    Re: HELP!!!! its making noise in first gear... :(

    Quote Originally Posted by sean1.8t View Post
    ^^^OMG, you're still alive
    lol... haven't been here for months. All my attention has been on my Ninja, winter time is finally making me spend time with my car again, and now I want to change some things up.
    Totalled 12/4/07.

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