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    Looking very nice. After seeing many pictures, I notice one thing. Where is the e-brake handle?
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    I can't wait!

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    no avant ????? i will cry

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    Quote Originally Posted by vwong View Post
    Looking very nice. After seeing many pictures, I notice one thing. Where is the e-brake handle?
    If you read the whole description from the Audi Press Communicate you will find out how many things have changed.

    E-Brake is now an electronically emergency brake, activated by the button on the left of the shifter, close towhere the other controls are for MMI. Just like the current A6. Not necessarily a good thing cause I can't U-turn anymore, but I think I like the idea, it looks neat and has some advantages: the e-brake can be activated (automatically) when in Neutral or when certain conditions apply.
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    I need some news about the B8 S4 !!!
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    Re: frankfurt auto show

    1.8???? thing looks like a damn Corolla S. I'm straight with my B7
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    Quote Originally Posted by raulg_usa View Post
    I need some news about the B8 S4 !!!
    exactly!!!

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    Re: frankfurt auto show

    I looked at the first photo really quick and simply thought "man that A5 looks really aggressive"... until I saw the front license plate indicating A4 1.8T.

    It goes to show how similar the two cars really are. I'm really digging both models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4_Mike View Post
    It goes to show how similar the two cars really are.
    I'd say it goes to show how you weren't paying enough attention to detail!

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    Re: frankfurt auto show

    Front looks nice but no dual exhaust? how lame.
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    Re: frankfurt auto show

    The rear end on it reminds me of the new jetta, How much horsepower in this model?
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    Re: frankfurt auto show

    The red is sex!

    More pics from Frankfurt and info from Motor Trend:

    Audi's big Frankfurt premiere is the latest version of its bread-and-butter sedan. Longer, lower, wider, the new B8 A4 is essentially a four-door version of the sexy A5 coupe. Wheelbase is up a whopping 6.6 inches, and it has shorter overhangs and a new higher-quality interior with real useful rear-seat headroom and shoulder-room for a C-segment car. Overall length is up 4.6 inches, it is 1.1-inches wider and 0.1 inch lower, and the drag coefficient has come down from 0.31 to a very impressive 0.27. The front suspension has been moved forward with the engine sitting farther back, and the steering rack is lower, for lower center of gravity and better handling. The handsome new sedan has LED daytime driving lights in the lower part of the headlamp, Audi's answer to BMW's ring parking lights. In its quest to reverse the usual increase in weight, the new A4 has "a very strong aluminum content" and extensive use of ultra-high-strength steel, for lower mass versus the B7 A4. Every A4 will come with MMI (the Kraftwerk-like "man-machine interface" ancillary control device) with top models getting MMI with a navigation screen on the center dash. The base MMI setup displays directions in the instrument panel. The A4 will launch next August or September in the States with a 265-horsepower, 243 pound-foot 3.2-liter FSI direct-injection V-6 with standard six-speed Tiptronic automatic. Later, we'll get an all-new 2.0-liter turbocharged direct-injection four (presumably with six-speed manual or DSG available), with at least 250 horsepower and perhaps as much as 260 pound-feet of torque. Audi will probably show the new A4 Avant next year at Geneva, and it will go on sale in the U.S. with the sedan, with pricing close to the current car's $28,000 to $38,000 range. We'll have to wait another year for the S4, and an RS4 version will launch some time after that.











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    Quote Originally Posted by TooLow1.8T View Post
    The red is sex!
    Audi's big Frankfurt premiere is the latest version of its bread-and-butter sedan. Longer, lower, wider, the new B8 A4 is essentially a four-door version of the sexy A5 coupe. Wheelbase is up a whopping 6.6 inches, and it has shorter overhangs and a new higher-quality interior with real useful rear-seat headroom and shoulder-room for a C-segment car. Overall length is up 4.6 inches, it is 1.1-inches wider and 0.1 inch lower, and the drag coefficient has come down from 0.31 to a very impressive 0.27. The front suspension has been moved forward with the engine sitting farther back, and the steering rack is lower, for lower center of gravity and better handling. The handsome new sedan has LED daytime driving lights in the lower part of the headlamp, Audi's answer to BMW's ring parking lights. In its quest to reverse the usual increase in weight, the new A4 has "a very strong aluminum content" and extensive use of ultra-high-strength steel, for lower mass versus the B7 A4. Every A4 will come with MMI (the Kraftwerk-like "man-machine interface" ancillary control device) with top models getting MMI with a navigation screen on the center dash. The base MMI setup displays directions in the instrument panel. The A4 will launch next August or September in the States with a 265-horsepower, 243 pound-foot 3.2-liter FSI direct-injection V-6 with standard six-speed Tiptronic automatic. Later, we'll get an all-new 2.0-liter turbocharged direct-injection four (presumably with six-speed manual or DSG available), with at least 250 horsepower and perhaps as much as 260 pound-feet of torque. Audi will probably show the new A4 Avant next year at Geneva, and it will go on sale in the U.S. with the sedan, with pricing close to the current car's $28,000 to $38,000 range. We'll have to wait another year for the S4, and an RS4 version will launch some time after that.
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    Later, we'll get an all-new 2.0-liter turbocharged direct-injection four (presumably with six-speed manual or DSG available), with at least 250 horsepower and perhaps as much as 260 pound-feet of torque.
    So much for chipping the b7. Ill just trade her in for a new B8. :D

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    2.0T specs are just rumours from MT. Nothing confirmed but if Audi did bump up the power I would guess 220hp perhaps, 250hp gets a little close to their V6 offering.

    Dual exhaust pipes - yes on the larger motors, and probably also on the 2.0T. Single exhaust pipe for the engines smaller less than 2.0L. And for those who don't know already, there are a lot more engine choices in Europe and the road taxes depends on the size of the engine hence why there are these smaller engines there.
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    I'm loving it! The proportions and details on this car are absolutely amazing!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    I'm loving it! The proportions and details on this car are absolutely amazing!
    i'm with you, i'll probably trade my b7 for this b8!!!!
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    the only thing i'm not diggin' is the SMALL ASS shark fin, I think the b7's shark fin would look better on the b8 thats just me...=)
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    Wow much better....Can only imagine how good this looks in person. I want to see the s4..
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    i am in love....cant wait to see a black one. Maybe even Ti pkg!!

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    Just when I was thinking of the A5/S5... I think I may stick with the B8...
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    Hmmm noticed a few things. The red A4 has the S-line package, but no S-line badging, but you do see it on the door sill. Also the driver's seat, on the side, has airbags so possibility that these might be the seats that comes to North America?
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    Audi needs to get in the game with the 3.2.... the 335 which is technically the competition for it, has 300 hp and 300tq, and the C350 has quite a bit more power too... And I also really hope the 2.0T has at least 230hp seeing as the 328 has 231 and is considerably lighter

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanner View Post
    Hmmm noticed a few things. The red A4 has the S-line package, but no S-line badging, but you do see it on the door sill. Also the driver's seat, on the side, has airbags so possibility that these might be the seats that comes to North America?
    Yes I noticed that too. It's the little stlying enhancements and subtle yet aggressive differences that make the S-line even better than the standard one (as is the norm, but still). Man, so hot! I'm quite curious if they'll differentiate the S4 from the S-line A4 this time around.
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    Also noticed that the S-line badging is where the engine badging is on the S4/RS4, slapping it on the door doesn't work as they don't have any plastic add-on this time around. Might have to debadge that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanner View Post
    2.0T specs are just rumours from MT. Nothing confirmed but if Audi did bump up the power I would guess 220hp perhaps, 250hp gets a little close to their V6 offering.

    Dual exhaust pipes - yes on the larger motors, and probably also on the 2.0T. Single exhaust pipe for the engines smaller less than 2.0L. And for those who don't know already, there are a lot more engine choices in Europe and the road taxes depends on the size of the engine hence why there are these smaller engines there.
    If the comments on the GTI getting 227hp next year is right, then Audi will probably bump the power up on the new A4, which of course they need to.
    220-230hp would be good with 230lb ft. 250hp with 260lb ft. would be VERY sweet indeed, but that negates the V6...unless Audi has some turbo plans for the V6.....?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tanner View Post
    Hmmm noticed a few things. The red A4 has the S-line package, but no S-line badging, but you do see it on the door sill. Also the driver's seat, on the side, has airbags so possibility that these might be the seats that comes to North America?
    From other pics I've seen the S-Line badge on the B8 is where the front fender turn signal on the B7 is.
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    I'm not feeling it. Seems to have lost the little bit of sportiness it had. That thing resembles a family car way too much.

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    Im liking the 3.0...not liking 1.8t so much....i must say audi is designing to look so similar to bmw...side shot looks like the new bmw style IMO...not digging the rear just over the license plate....interior very nice but again looking very similar to BMW

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    Quote Originally Posted by moses0324 View Post
    Im liking the 3.0...not liking 1.8t so much....i must say audi is designing to look so similar to bmw...side shot looks like the new bmw style IMO...not digging the rear just over the license plate....interior very nice but again looking very similar to BMW
    Yeah right... look again.

    Interior is just a combination between A8, A6 and A4 B7, with some changes of course, but I can see every single thing coming from something Audi had and improved. Did u ever sit in an A6? What about a BMW? BMW is rough, with corners on every single button that is not round. Totally different style.

    Exterior, the same, it is a clear improvement over the B7. The main structure is similar indeed with BMW's look, they have to keep 4 wheels and 4 doors and a trunk and the same number of windows. But all the details are different, all together another style. I wouldn't mind having the B8 compared to the 3 series, since so many people love the look of their BMW, especially since when placed close to each other the B8 looks better, with more attention at details. I don't mind, but I think they are similar only in ideas. I mean, just cause I have two eyes and one nose doesn't mean I look just like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raulg_usa View Post
    Yeah right... look again.

    Interior is just a combination between A8, A6 and A4 B7, with some changes of course, but I can see every single thing coming from something Audi had and improved. Did u ever sit in an A6? What about a BMW? BMW is rough, with corners on every single button that is not round. Totally different style.

    Exterior, the same, it is a clear improvement over the B7. The main structure is similar indeed with BMW's look, they have to keep 4 wheels and 4 doors and a trunk and the same number of windows. But all the details are different, all together another style. I wouldn't mind having the B8 compared to the 3 series, since so many people love the look of their BMW, especially since when placed close to each other the B8 looks better, with more attention at details. I don't mind, but I think they are similar only in ideas. I mean, just cause I have two eyes and one nose doesn't mean I look just like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4Dit View Post
    I'm not feeling it. Seems to have lost the little bit of sportiness it had. That thing resembles a family car way too much.
    You can't be serious. This is by FAR that most sporty A4 ever made. The B6 was the most tame, mellow, family looking A4 Audi has produced ten fold.

    Just to clarify, you are saying this...


    ... is sportier than this???



    Granted the B6 is not a USP, but even that pales in comparrison.

    BTW, I can make fun of the B6 in the pic because it was mine. That's what it looked like when I bought it. Very sporty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by astris View Post
    You can't be serious. This is by FAR that most sporty A4 ever made. The B6 was the most tame, mellow, family looking A4 Audi has produced ten fold.

    Just to clarify, you are saying this...

    ... is sportier than this???

    Granted the B6 is not a USP, but even that pales in comparrison.

    BTW, I can make fun of the B6 in the pic because it was mine. That's what it looked like when I bought it. Very sporty!
    Got 'em!

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    Exactly what I was thinking, astris. Well said, and shown.
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    Absolutely the most epic A4 ever produced. I love it, and I cant wait till it comes out. Audi!

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