Bye Bye B7-S4 :-(

[drexplode]

not a fancy video...but none the less a video of my 2005.5 Audi S4 - Sprint Blue. Most likely the new owner will take her away on Saturday. Definitely a beautiful car.

Video of exterior part 1:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...86968962967205

Video of exterior part 2:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...97587493650013

[heliskyr]

Beautiful car- why selling?

[drexplode]

make room for a new love

Ever since i was in college i've wanted a BMW, and finally im going to act on it.

New love = 2007 335i - Sparkling Graphite, black dakota leather, aluminum trim, 6-speed manual, sport package, heated seats and sirius

I will be back to Audi some day...i know it.

Exterior will look like this: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78921

Status = currently on a ship heading to MD, and then to SC for unloading, and then to MI for prep

[ed@mtl]

Your getting a 335 coupe?

BTW: Great choice in car. But I would've went with the 4dr awd version. Family man, oh well.

[simona]

Oh man, I test drove the 335i when I was in the market for a new car. I decided to buy an S4 instead. The S4 is a whole lot more fun to drive. The bimmer does look nice but so does your S4.

Bimmers are everywhere in CA so they are nothing special.

[drexplode]

yeah sorry..its the Coupe

i've owned sedans for the past 3-4 years, and im ready for a coupe. Both are a lot of fun to drive; however, when i drove the 335 a few weekends ago at the BMW Drive for a Cure event i immediately fell in love. I havent said "oh my god, and WOW" so many times while driving a car in a long time.

The new owner is an Audizine member and im confident he will take care of the S4.

Not too many E92s cruisin around MI yet, nor a lot of B7 S4s either. Coupes are sold out for months. I've been waiting about 6/7 weeks thus far

[Applejacks]

Lucky. I wish someone would buy mine. :(

[drexplode]

took me awhile also...but i dont think used S4s are selling over 39/40k. I priced mine to sell.

[FlyinByB6]

335!!!.....

Nice choice

I hope i dont have to wait to long for mine..

[likewater]

If ever there was a Bimmer that I would buy, it would definately by the 335 coupe (family man and all). However, I have to agree here that the S4 is amazing to drive and better yet, very rarely seen even here in So Cal.

Enjoy your new ride though. I'm sure you'll be very happy.

Oh man, I test drove the 335i when I was in the market for a new car. I decided to buy an S4 instead. The S4 is a whole lot more fun to drive. The bimmer does look nice but so does your S4.

Bimmers are everywhere in CA so they are nothing special.

[DeatschWerks]

Congrats on the 335. Truely a great car. Performance wise, it is better out of the box than the S4 plus WAY more potential than the S4 to make real power.

I looked long and hard at a 335 before buying my S4. In the end, although I tried, I just couldn't fall in love with it like I did the S4. I see at least 3-5 335's everyday where i live... I never see any other S4's. Plus the S4 just feels more "special". If I didn't already have some other fast toys, I probably would have gone with the 33.

Anyway, congrats, I'm sure you will love it.

[bklein8888]

I just couldn't fall in love with it like I did the S4. I see at least 3-5 335's everyday where i live... I never see any other S4's. Plus the S4 just feels more "special".

My thoughts exactly...though I see more like 10-15 a day in SF...good luck...im sure you will enjoy...after all you can't go all that wrong with a BMW

[BGEDWN]

Won't you miss the quattro in the Michigan winters? You may think twice about your choice when the white stuff appears.

[LampyB]

Won't you miss the quattro in the Michigan winters? You may think twice about your choice when the white stuff appears.

Yeah BMWs are absolutely HORRIBLE in snow and ice! I've had a '95 325i and an '03 330i RWD and I would honestly get stuck in anything. I had winter tires on both cars and lived in Detroit....

You may want to think twice about a 335i and either go XI (if they have it) or get a quattro if you don't have another AWD car to drive.


LampyB.


ps. Beemers look stupid driving in the winter. They're totally out of place unless you have an XI.

[drexplode]

Thanks guys for all the positive feedback. I wont stray too far...

That was my exact reason for staying away from RWD beamers, due to the winter weather here in MI. However, after speaking to many experienced drivers and reading a lot of BMW reviews from Tire Rack, i have confidence that i will be able to survive. With the 50/50 weight distribution, traction control, and really good snow tires...i should be ok. I already ordered snows; B-stones Blizzaks WS-50 215/50-17

I live 5-10 mins from work, and dont go on excessive driving trips...so my commute is rather convenient.

The only considerable difference i will notice is the 100% confidence while driving the speed limit on a MI snowy day; meanwhile everyone else is driving significanty slower. On those heavy snow fall days, im sure i will miss the quattro. With all-seaons + quattro there is nothing better. With snows + quattro, its like driving on dry tarmac.

[TTastic]

New S4 owner here. I have to say the pictures and videos of this car can’t quite do it justice. It SHINES in person! I flew into MI on Saturday, signed the papers, and drove back to PA over the rest of the weekend (10 hr. haul). The car was great to drive and just immaculate. Everything from the wheels to the door sills to the engine bay was just about as clean as you can hope for. So happy to find something enthusiast owned that got all the care and attention it deserved.

Great car, great condition, and great seller – so glad I made the trek out to Michigan!

I guess it's about time I changed my name on this site. Now if somebody would just by my TT.....

No seriously guys, somebodys got to buy this thing.

http://ttastic.blogspot.com

[ParkerF1 B7S4]

Congrats on the 335. Truely a great car. Performance wise, it is better out of the box than the S4 plus WAY more potential than the S4 to make real power....

Out of the box not a chance. Not even close.

300/300hp/tq doesn't come close. 40hp is a bigger difference than you think. I'll give it props for a good set of brakes (13"ers) and a decent tranny (drive ratios at least), but that's it. An old family friend owns Prestige here in NJ (BMW, Pcar,LR,Toyota,Lex,Lotus,Mini etc). I've not only driven Bimmers the last 15 years, but have owned my share. I've taken the 335 through its paces last month, both the all wheel and 2wd. The S4 is a fkn CAR. The 335 is a detuned consumer mobile. (Yes the S4 is suitable for Joe Driver in every corner of the country too and has it's upside i know)

I'm not attacking you in any way. I'm just passionate about my Audis, and knowledgeable in a hands on way. I love BMW. They're truly a fantastic engineering firm. They KNOW what they're doing, but Audi trumps BMW. I'm sorry to say it.

Now, I know you guys are about to come back with "the 335 > B5/B6 S4 etc, but I'm comparing the B7 NA S4 as it is of the same model year. The ride is tuned without having to upgrade COs. the Brakes are made for road abuse (no, not track abuse, but no ride gets that treatment without a hardy premium in the $70k+ tier).

So that's where I'm coming from.

Cheers and awaiting feedback of any form - ;)


Rob
A guy who will never own another BMW again as long as he lives
for reasons stated above, as well as it's an oversaturating ride - visible in all peripherals each and every
town one drives in NJ.

[drexplode]

New S4 owner here. I have to say the pictures and videos of this car can’t quite do it justice. It SHINES in person! I flew into MI on Saturday, signed the papers, and drove back to PA over the rest of the weekend (10 hr. haul). The car was great to drive and just immaculate. Everything from the wheels to the door sills to the engine bay was just about as clean as you can hope for. So happy to find something enthusiast owned that got all the care and attention it deserved.

Great car, great condition, and great seller – so glad I made the trek out to Michigan!

I guess it's about time I changed my name on this site. Now if somebody would just by my TT.....

No seriously guys, somebodys got to buy this thing.

http://ttastic.blogspot.com

Thanks for the props Matt. Definitely a pleasure to meet you in person, and i can tell that you are an Audi enthusiast. Which is exactly the type of buyer that i was looking for so he/she can appreciate its true beauty and soul.

Enjoy your new baby, and please please please send me pictures with the slightest modifications.

Also, i highly recommend rolling shots with that beautiful machine. It was so gorgeous when you drove past in the sunlight...the sprint blue is amazing.

-Greg

[drexplode]

Out of the box not a chance. Not even close.

300/300hp/tq doesn't come close. 40hp is a bigger difference than you think. I'll give it props for a good set of brakes (13"ers) and a decent tranny (drive ratios at least), but that's it. An old family friend owns Prestige here in NJ (BMW, Pcar,LR,Toyota,Lex,Lotus,Mini etc). I've not only driven Bimmers the last 15 years, but have owned my share. I've taken the 335 through its paces last month, both the all wheel and 2wd. The S4 is a fkn CAR. The 335 is a detuned consumer mobile. (Yes the S4 is suitable for Joe Driver in every corner of the country too and has it's upside i know)

I'm not attacking you in any way. I'm just passionate about my Audis, and knowledgeable in a hands on way. I love BMW. They're truly a fantastic engineering firm. They KNOW what they're doing, but Audi trumps BMW. I'm sorry to say it.

Now, I know you guys are about to come back with "the 335 > B5/B6 S4 etc, but I'm comparing the B7 NA S4 as it is of the same model year. The ride is tuned without having to upgrade COs. the Brakes are made for road abuse (no, not track abuse, but no ride gets that treatment without a hardy premium in the $70k+ tier).

So that's where I'm coming from.

Cheers and awaiting feedback of any form - ;)


Rob
A guy who will never own another BMW again as long as he lives
for reasons stated above, as well as it's an oversaturating ride - visible in all peripherals each and every
town one drives in NJ.

To each is their own definitely. I'm very impressed with your passion for Audi's.

After driving both back to back literally, I felt more soul with the 335. However, I definitely have a story which alters my opinion with Audi's all together. Like i said in my original post, i'm not going to stray far as i have love for both manufacturers. It was just time to laterally shift in the direction of BMW for awhile.

If you want to hear the story, drop me a PM...

Enjoy your new baby Matt!!

[4nroots]

Yeah BMWs are absolutely HORRIBLE in snow and ice! I've had a '95 325i and an '03 330i RWD and I would honestly get stuck in anything. I had winter tires on both cars and lived in Detroit....

You may want to think twice about a 335i and either go XI (if they have it) or get a quattro if you don't have another AWD car to drive.


LampyB.


ps. Beemers look stupid driving in the winter. They're totally out of place unless you have an XI.

really? i had an 03 325i (E46) and an 06 330i (E90) both Sport Pack RWDs...they were phenomenal in the snow (and we get a LOT of snow) with winters on. no trouble at all! in fact, i felt more confident in my 330 than i did in my past A4 avant quattro

[astris]

You know 335xi coupes are now available, right? That would solve all your problems.

As for performance vs. S4... sorry, but the 335 is the winner. It has even proven to be faster than the RS4 around certain tracks.

And you can beat simple mods for lots of power.

[drexplode]

I thought about the 335xi coupe; however, didnt want to wait for it and nor did i want to pay for the extra cost. So i spent $900 in some blizzaks ws-50s and decent wheels.

You are correct about the 335i, it was able to keep up with the RS4 around some corners:

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-lap-2007.html

If you haven't driven a 335 coupe before, i highly recommend it. If you are in MI or OH/IN/PA, you are more than welcome to come for a ride in mine (when it finally arrives)

[DeatschWerks]

Out of the box not a chance. Not even close...
Cheers and awaiting feedback of any form - ;)

Now, remember, I am a guy who chose the S4 over the 335. I LOVE my S4 and do not regret my decision in the least but comeon, not evern close??? How can you disregad these numbers...

BMW 335 vs Audi S4
$39,400 vs $48,200
19/29 mpg vs 15/21 mpg
300hp/300tq vs 340hp/302tq
3600lbs vs 3870lbs
decent back seat vs cramped back seat
13.6@105 vs 13.7@102
0.87g vs 0.87g
160ft (70-0) vs 177ft (70-0)

Also, the 335 is a chip away from numbers that will obliterate the S4. Aftermarket engine tuning potential for the S4 is close to nill.

But in my book the S4 still wins overall due to it's ride quality, interior, and "it" factor.

[Anthony]

BMW 335 vs Audi S4
$39,400 vs $48,200
19/29 mpg vs 15/21 mpg
300hp/300tq vs 340hp/302tq
3600lbs vs 3870lbs
decent back seat vs cramped back seat
13.6@105 vs 13.7@102
0.87g vs 0.87g
160ft (70-0) vs 177ft (70-0)

Actually, according to BMW's website, the unladed weight of the 335xi sedan is 3814 lbs and the MSRP is closer to $41k.

[DeatschWerks]

Actually, according to BMW's website, the unladed weight of the 335xi sedan is 3814 lbs and the MSRP is closer to $41k.

actually all of those figues were for the RWD version, but you ar right, since it is now out, we should probably compare apples to apples.

[SnowWhiteA4]

actually all of those figues were for the RWD version, but you ar right, since it is now out, we should probably compare apples to apples.

so true..... the AWD 335 is more than 40,000 with the same opt as an S4

[KokujinTensai]

Out of the box not a chance. Not even close.

300/300hp/tq doesn't come close. 40hp is a bigger difference than you think. I'll give it props for a good set of brakes (13"ers) and a decent tranny (drive ratios at least), but that's it. An old family friend owns Prestige here in NJ (BMW, Pcar,LR,Toyota,Lex,Lotus,Mini etc). I've not only driven Bimmers the last 15 years, but have owned my share. I've taken the 335 through its paces last month, both the all wheel and 2wd. The S4 is a fkn CAR. The 335 is a detuned consumer mobile. (Yes the S4 is suitable for Joe Driver in every corner of the country too and has it's upside i know)

I'm not attacking you in any way. I'm just passionate about my Audis, and knowledgeable in a hands on way. I love BMW. They're truly a fantastic engineering firm. They KNOW what they're doing, but Audi trumps BMW. I'm sorry to say it.

Now, I know you guys are about to come back with "the 335 > B5/B6 S4 etc, but I'm comparing the B7 NA S4 as it is of the same model year. The ride is tuned without having to upgrade COs. the Brakes are made for road abuse (no, not track abuse, but no ride gets that treatment without a hardy premium in the $70k+ tier).

So that's where I'm coming from.

Cheers and awaiting feedback of any form - ;)


Rob
A guy who will never own another BMW again as long as he lives
for reasons stated above, as well as it's an oversaturating ride - visible in all peripherals each and every
town one drives in NJ.

Man its about time i heard some Audi passion! "The 335 is a detuned consumer mobile." thats how i feel. it is very pretty and every time im over my guys place i ask him to drive it around the block. but the S4 is king to me.

Cant wait for the S5. I fall in love with Audi every time i see them. Any of them. even a 1.8t 96 A4. I see BMW i think, "Oh theres ANOTHER bmw." unless its an M5, E30 M3, any Alpina or an 850csi i dont double take.

Most people Ive come in contact with buy bimmers because of the name alone. Nothing wrong with that. I suppose were Audi enthusiasts for other reasons....

[drexplode]

To each is their own.

Honestly, you cant go wrong with either car. They are both lateral moves...

My heart is 50/50 Audi/BMW. German technology all the way! Porsche next?

[3 bar]

From a tuner standpoint the BMW 335i has the S4 beat hands down. Dont get me wrong I plan on buying an S4 within a few months. Im not through with Audi despite the many problems i've had with my A4. My frends 323i has had far fewer problems with comparable mileage and abuse. Makes me wonder why I still want another Audi. I guess im foolishly faithful to VW/Audi products.

[TXGold]

I sold mine to CarMax for $35K. The other trade in quotes I received where both for $34K. I took a big hit. I would have had to wait probably two months to move it, and I found the car I wanted and have been looking for for two years. It's kind of funny, but I've been lurking here for a week since my loss. :( I'll always remember her, but the extra 111 pounds of torque I now have might make it a little easier.

[probitron]

I sold mine to CarMax for $35K. The other trade in quotes I received where both for $34K. I took a big hit. I would have had to wait probably two months to move it, and I found the car I wanted and have been looking for for two years. It's kind of funny, but I've been lurking here for a week since my loss. :( I'll always remember her, but the extra 111 pounds of torque I now have might make it a little easier.

Don't leave us in suspense, what's the new ride?

[TXGold]

996TT Seal Gray/Gray Ruf Suspension, Bailey Diverter Valves, New Shoes(OUCH8o)!!!! How are the wheels?

[probitron]

Nice ride! I hope to end up in one of those some day.

Wheels are doing great, except for all the brake dust that never seems to stop

[msv]

I'm going the opposite direction. I'm coming out of a 996TT with Fabspeed exhaust, GIAC, Champion 19's. I just bought a B7 S4.

[Audiman44]

What is a 996TT? Im guessing audi tt, sorry for the lack of knowledge,,

Audiman44

[msv]

Porsche 996 (911) Twin Turbo

[Audiman44]

Thanks, by the way that is my favorite porsche!

Audiman44

[ParkerF1 B7S4]

To each is their own definitely. I'm very impressed with your passion for Audi's.

After driving both back to back literally, I felt more soul with the 335. However, I definitely have a story which alters my opinion with Audi's all together. Like i said in my original post, i'm not going to stray far as i have love for both manufacturers. It was just time to laterally shift in the direction of BMW for awhile.

If you want to hear the story, drop me a PM...

Enjoy your new baby Matt!!

Congrats on the ride man. I'm by no means attacking your choice here. The 335 is a fkn great ride. BMW is stellar. I'd love to hear you story though...

[ParkerF1 B7S4]

Now, remember, I am a guy who chose the S4 over the 335. I LOVE my S4 and do not regret my decision in the least but comeon, not evern close??? How can you disregad these numbers...

BMW 335 vs Audi S4
$39,400 vs $48,200
19/29 mpg vs 15/21 mpg
300hp/300tq vs 340hp/302tq
3600lbs vs 3870lbs
decent back seat vs cramped back seat
13.6@105 vs 13.7@102
0.87g vs 0.87g
160ft (70-0) vs 177ft (70-0)

Also, the 335 is a chip away from numbers that will obliterate the S4. Aftermarket engine tuning potential for the S4 is close to nill.

But in my book the S4 still wins overall due to it's ride quality, interior, and "it" factor.

I hear you man. I'm not trying to create a monster argument here lol. I will say that the 335 probably has most of it's advantage with its weight... hence the shorter braking and track times. And with a chip.... i could only imagine how sick it will be. its definitely worth modding over an S4, if all you care about performance on a track. I don't know guys... there'll always be the split camp. I wish Audi would lighten the rides up a bit. It's not hard to trim a few hundred pounds on a behemoth like the S line. As for the back seat... i wouldn't say the S4's is cramped... its not bad at all.

[ParkerF1 B7S4]

Man its about time i heard some Audi passion! "The 335 is a detuned consumer mobile." thats how i feel. it is very pretty and every time im over my guys place i ask him to drive it around the block. but the S4 is king to me.

Cant wait for the S5. I fall in love with Audi every time i see them. Any of them. even a 1.8t 96 A4. I see BMW i think, "Oh theres ANOTHER bmw." unless its an M5, E30 M3, any Alpina or an 850csi i dont double take.

Most people Ive come in contact with buy bimmers because of the name alone. Nothing wrong with that. I suppose were Audi enthusiasts for other reasons....

Right on man! The biggest issue for me is my environment/demographic... every kid age 17 and up is riding around in a bimmer. they're overdone. Audis are extremely popular too, but BMW takes the cake. There are always nicely modded bimmers around, but it also seems to me that when you get an Audi or VW that's modded, it's done the right way, performance first and then aesthetics... and Audi/VW crew go all the way with it. It's very passionate, warm and enviting to the outsider.

BMWs alot of the time are rims intake and tint and perhaps a muffler only - nothing else. They're not posers, thats not what I'm getting at - just superficial in general. My local Audi crew are all into tracking, motorsport, driving to the limit. Its a passionate crowd.