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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

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    mmm late spool type torque. lol. i'm sure it will rip after 4.5k though.
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by Poopie View Post
    mmm late spool type torque. lol. i'm sure it will rip after 4.5k though.
    On a GT3071R? Not to mention the motor is a stroker motor.
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by Poopie View Post
    mmm late spool type torque. lol. i'm sure it will rip after 4.5k though.
    Please explain
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Just ordered a LM-1 with RPM reader from Innovate Motorsports. I want to do this thing right the first time and know what the engine is doing. Plus, it was needed for the 034 2c standalone .
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    never has "Oh Snap!" been so fitting. ever more accuarate would be "Oh Clunk, Boom, Crack!"
    your opinion sucks.

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shortness View Post
    never has "Oh Snap!" been so fitting. ever more accuarate would be "Oh Clunk, Boom, Crack!"
    I guess I will take this as a compliment, so Thanks!
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    After a few issues were resolved, we were able to drive the car last night. Drives great as before, but the motor feels alot stronger. I haven't built and boost(Bob says no more than 5psi for 500miles) but just barely pressing the gas, she's wanting to go! My wife is about to come out of her skin, she so excited that it's back on the road. She's been driving all over town to build up milage.

    Once we get some miles, we'll be setting up the 034 IIc standalone on it. Then we'll start tuning.
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    No boost? The worst thing you could do is stay out of boost and drive at the same rpm/load for a period of time.

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Gotta break in the rings and the only thing that does that is cylinder pressure.
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by Side-Step View Post
    After a few issues were resolved, we were able to drive the car last night. Drives great as before, but the motor feels alot stronger. I haven't built and boost(Bob says no more than 5psi for 500miles) but just barely pressing the gas, she's wanting to go! My wife is about to come out of her skin, she so excited that it's back on the road. She's been driving all over town to build up milage.

    Once we get some miles, we'll be setting up the 034 IIc standalone on it. Then we'll start tuning.
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by onemoremile View Post
    Gotta break in the rings and the only thing that does that is cylinder pressure.
    Exactly. Ever seen a top fuel car do a 5000 mile engine break in between runs?

    Basicly each run is the break in period.

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Supreme View Post
    The major cons with the 034 is

    A. You can't pass OBDII emissions inspection with it
    B. You have to spend extra money getting it tuned right (Dyno time and a tuner if required)
    (Big deal for me)
    C. No more cruise control!!! hahaha
    Cruise control will still work with original DBC cars. Cars with DBW it will not work.


    As far as driving around with no boost...this is what Bob from QED asking me to do, and I'm going to follow his directions.

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    I thnk its QED

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Supreme View Post
    I thnk its QED
    Correct.

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Corrected
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    FWIW, every new Porsche engine is run up to temperature and then runs full throttle to redline as part of it's readiness testing. Every one of them is run wide open the day it is born. Maybe Porsche knows what it's doing, maybe not. They seem to do pretty well.
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Most likely wants him to stay out of boost because the car is not running the correct tune for boost.

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Damn good point. This is the wrong time for detonation, like there is ever a good time.
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by onemoremile View Post
    Damn good point. This is the wrong time for detonation, like there is ever a good time.
    or even running too rich.

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    I have a LM-1 to make sure I'm not running lean/rich. I am running the MIKA tune from ATP right now. Once the car hits 500miles, I'll pull the wiring off and install the standalone. Then I'll get to see what she has.
    I hope we'll be able to gain a good bit over 300awhp with this new set up. Anything over 450awhp for a daily I'll be happy with.
    I'm thinking I'll have to upgrade some external items to hit that. We'll see.

    Mike,
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    What is B.A.T. +?
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    I am concerned about the tuning at this point. 5 psi is more than enough to break in the rings.

    Good luck Mike and keep me posted
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by bobqzzi View Post
    I am concerned about the tuning at this point. 5 psi is more than enough to break in the rings.

    Good luck Mike and keep me posted
    Yeah thats what I thought.


    Side-step, I am running the IIc with stock ATW(hitachi/beru) coils.

    Been using it for a few years now and it is great. Making changes is very easy and when you make changes you can save it to a lap top. If you dont like the changes you just load the other file back in as long as you saved it before you made any changes.

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by Side-Step View Post
    What is B.A.T. +?
    bat is big ass turbo....we needed a classification for anything larger than the average run-of-the-mill t28's, 28R's, and 28RS'. It also implies built internals or at least aftermarket rods.
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by 94jedi View Post
    bat is big ass turbo....we needed a classification for anything larger than the average run-of-the-mill t28's, 28R's, and 28RS'. It also implies built internals or at least aftermarket rods.
    Correct. Most of the "B.A.T" setups are all custom so they dont really fall under the "BT" class.

    GT30 or larger
    Built engine(well a stock one sure isn't going to last very long)



    + for those that are pushing 30+psi

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    I printed out the 52 pages off of 034's site to read and understand. Is there anything that is tricky with the program?

    By the way,Mike, what is the specs of your motor?
    Also, the coil connectors didn't have the weather boots on them, did you add yours from the stock harness?

    100 miles down...400 miles to go

    I'm having a problem getting the exhaust v-band to seal up. I bought a brand new one, but it is still leaking where the band has a space. Never had a issue before.

    Anyone else have this issue?
    Last edited by Side-Step; 07-05-2007 at 12:47 PM.
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by Side-Step View Post
    I printed out the 52 pages off of 034's site to read and understand. Is there anything that is tricky with the program?

    By the way,Mike, what is the specs of your motor?
    Also, the coil connectors didn't have the weather boots on them, did you add yours from the stock harness?

    100 miles down...400 miles to go

    I'm having a problem getting the exhaust v-band to seal up. I bought a brand new one, but it is still leaking where the band has a space. Never had a issue before.

    Anyone else have this issue?

    AEB crank and 83.5mm bore

    The program with the 034 stand alone is pretty straight forward. Have you talked to javad about getting a base map that would be close to fit with your motor and turbo setup?


    034 did the install of my stand alone, but IIRC they did put the weather boots back on my coil connectors when they made the new coil harness.


    The 2 V-bands might not be lining up when you put the V-band clamp on them. Have you tried turning one a little to see if it seats a little better.

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Integrated Engineering makes a nice v-band gasket that you can slip in there. I've tried a few and and they work well. I may even have one in stock
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    I don't know, I checked to see if the two flanges lined up and all. I'll figure it out.

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Update:

    Car is running pretty good. Still waiting on the 630 tune from Unitronics. Would like to upgrade the ATP ex mani, intercooler and charge piping.
    More time and money.
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    how many miles?

    and btw, even with the correct programming, bob said 5psi for my break in as well
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    decided agains the 034 eh?

    it is nice to be able to pass emissions...
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by onemoremile View Post
    Honey, the car is making a funny noise = the sound of a couple hammers in a coffee can rolling down the stairs.
    Very late to the party but I had to laugh at this one.

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by Side-Step View Post
    Update:

    Car is running pretty good. Still waiting on the 630 tune from Unitronics. Would like to upgrade the ATP ex mani, intercooler and charge piping.
    More time and money.
    Im sorry if I missed it but what manifold are you running now?
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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by mike-2ptzero View Post
    Correct. Most of the "B.A.T" setups are all custom so they dont really fall under the "BT" class.

    GT30 or larger
    Built engine(well a stock one sure isn't going to last very long)



    + for those that are pushing 30+psi

    Funny that BT for some are just small turbos for others and BAT for others are what some have been riding around daily for years.....
    There's also people with vw's with 42RS's hanging on the side that dont post much

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    Re: Threw a rod out both sides!

    Quote Originally Posted by 317ssayzarc View Post
    how many miles?

    and btw, even with the correct programming, bob said 5psi for my break in as well
    I would have to say 5,000 so far and 4 oil changes. I just switched over the Royal Puple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil@BSH View Post
    Im sorry if I missed it but what manifold are you running now?
    Running the ATP's that comes with the GT28rs kit. It does the deal, but just hard to get to all the nuts to tight them up.
    I want to get the tubular style mani that Bob sells.


    Off this subject. Boost is right off idle. I'll can cruise through the neighborhood with out boosting, but have to be easy on the throttle. Spools easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killa View Post
    Funny that BT for some are just small turbos for others and BAT for others are what some have been riding around daily for years.....
    There's also people with vw's with 42RS's hanging on the side that dont post much
    Well this isn't a VW or VR6 forum now is it.

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    Nope. It is an Audi forum. We all count, even those that are naturally aspirated. Status is for people that care too much what other people think.
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