B6 A4 2.8/3.0 FAQ Sheet!

[Craigo]

Originally posted by 3.0 King:

It was mentioned that this was helpful. I added some links.

Stuff for 3.0
Exhaust:
Neuspeed
http://www.greedspeed.com/applicati...UST_V6_QUATTRO_

Decorsa:
http://www.ecodetuning.com/shop/car...;p=446&c=18

Thermal:
http://www.ecodetuning.com/shop/car...;p=359&c=18

Milltek (all the way down 2nd from the bottom)

http://www.stratmosphere.com/milltek_a4_catback.htm

Supersprint:
http://www.supersprintna.com/catego...h_model%5D/171/

Chip:
Neuspeed
http://www.greedspeed.com/applicati...30v.aspx?cat=46

Giac:
Does not show it but my local dealer Evolution Assures me that they have a chip flash for the 3.0.
www.evolutionsports.com

Wetterauer
http://www.autobraun.com/abd/chiptu...el.asp?ct_id=12


Cold Air Intake:
Stratmosphere:
http://www.stratmosphere.com/hyperflow.htm

Intake shoot out article
http://eurotuner.com/techarticles/0411et_intake/

SuperCharger:

Pes G3:
http://www.pes-tuning.com/

ABT S/C
http://scaudi.com/sc/index.php?show...amp;#entry19464
MTM Twin Screw Supercharger
http://www.mtm-online.de/en/index.p...um=MCA4220315FX
:

Water Methanol Injection
http://www.snowperformance.net/ article

product
http://www.snowperformance.net/products.asp?id=1

Threads
http://superchargedaudi.com/sc/inde...ic=2209&hl=

http://superchargedaudi.com/sc/inde...ic=2220&hl=

http://forums.audiworld.com/a4/msgs/2146261.phtml

Suspension
Stasis Koni/ohlins kit
http://www.stasisengineering.com/au...suspension.html

Tien S.Tech
http://www.tein.com/ti/j00.html

Bilstein Coilover set
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/pr...ails.asp?app=20|AQ&type=2&ltype=ns_euro&p_id=1832

Koni Yellows
http://www.neuspeed.com/products/pr...ails.asp?app=20|AQ&type=2&ltype=ns_euro&p_id=1810

Vogtland Coilovers
http://www.greedspeed.com/applicati...tland_Coilovers

H&R coilovers
http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/sha...;IL=HRCoilovers
H&R Sways
http://www.hrsprings.com/site/index.html


Neuspeed 21mm rear sway
http://www.greedspeed.com/applicati...i_Sway_Bar_21mm

Brakes
Stasis Alcon
http://www.stasisengineering.com/audi_a4_b6_brakes.html

RPI 13” WilWood
http://www.rpiequipped.com/store/c192476.2.html

Brembro BBK 355mm
http://www.prostreetonline.com/buy/...kits/1b2.8002a/

StopTech BBK
http://www.stoptech.com/products/BBK/summary.shtml

http://www.greedspeed.com/applicati...it_02_06_A4_S4_

ECS 2 Piece IE replica rotors
http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd...0OE%202%20Piece

ECS Porsche Big 993 calipers
http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd...ECS%20Stage%203

ECS OE replacement rotors
http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd...subcategory=OEM


Differential
Stasis differentials
http://www.stasisengineering.com/audi_a4_b6_diff.html

Snubmount
APR snub
http://www.ecstuning.com/stage/edpd...ory=Performance

Twin Turbo One Off 2.8's and 3.0's

2.8 passat twin turbo thread
http://www.passatworld.com/forums/s...age=1&pp=30

TVA motorsport one off 3.0 twin turbo at .7 bar.
http://www.audi-sport.dk/audi_a4_3.0_turbo.htm

These are the only two twin turbo's i know about and Niether has responded to my pm's emails.


Intake, exhaust, and chip will net you 12-18 hp. Not a whole lot, your running a n/a motor.

You can do a 50 wet shot of nitrous. There are a few around who do, they tend to stay quite as some of the members here are asshats about nitrous only being for ricers.

The pes system puts down 320 chp, and 268 ctorque. that translates to about 256whp and 213 wtorque. Winslow at PES thinks with intake and The new thermal exhaust that thermal made specifically for the g3 they can hit 350 chp witch would put you at 270-275 whp.

The g3 is the eaton roots e-62 supercharger, it hits 10 psi at full boost, This is the safe long term functioning limit PES has found on the 2.8/3.0 30v engines. Winslow says if you want to go higher with the G3 you'll need to beef up the bottom end. As for the top end their testing shows the g2/g3 actually benefits from all of the turbulence increasing the mixture of the compressed air and fuel. This gives better fuel air mix for ignitions. The g3 is their third supercharger for the 2.8/3.0 30v, it started with the g1, then the g2, and the final version of the g3 for the 3.0 30v.

3.0 king has a g3 with intake and supersprint exhaust and shows 335 chp. That puts him at s4 power with 3.0 gas mileage and about 5k less new. Out of the g2's and g1's there are some that are in the 60k to 90k in mileage, is this the standard yeah I believe so. the e-62 is a near bullet proof s/c not nearly as high strung as a big turbo kit for the 1.8t's. If


If your looking for near instant boost, with s4 power, but the gas savings of a 3.0. This will fit the bill.

When i asked winslow about speed comparisons he said the g3 will beat a chipped and exhaust 4.2 s4, and a chipped 996 will need a long long road to actually take the g3, and it finally does at 6th gear and about 6k in rpm.

These two dyno's are from a 3.0a4 quattro. so the numbers are quattro WHP numbers. multiply them by 1.21/1.22 some where in there to get your numbers at the crank.

Several guys with the g3 make more than the advertised 320. 3.0king makes 335 with stratosphere cai and supersprint exhaust.

Last I talked with Winslow he was thinking that the new thermal exhaust specifically made for the g3 could possibly bring it up to about 350 chp. which would translate into 273 whp on a quattro a4.

I asked about
Port and polish of the top end, headers, manifold extrude and hone, 50 hp shot of nitros... your best of hearing his answers directly from him.

For those two lazy to call.

*Port and polish. Will run you about 12-1500 for� almost no gain times that people have done it on the g2 they range with in 5-8 hp on their dyno�s that is well with in the margin of error for environmental conditions.

* Headers run around 1100 for the 2.8/3.0 if you can find them. I did once but lost the link. Pes tested the headers on the G2 and saw a gain of 8-10 hp. for 1100 plus one hellatious install it was a bit of a stretch.

*Extruding and honing of the Manifold. PES�s is a custom manifold. What little rough ness it has is likely to give the air a bit of turbulence. This tumble seems in Winslow�s opinion to be more beneficial to the operation than a clean charge. It forces the air and fuel to mix at a much more efficient level.

*Nitrous in addition to the G3 has not really been tried. Give it a shot :P and let Winslow know.

*Intercoolers. Currently the G1 is the only supercharger that can accept the FMIC. Right now both the G2 and G3 simply do not have enough room to mount one. Both in the front and in the space between the hood and S/C.

Even with a FMIC on the g2 PES only saw a minimal amount of temperature drop. With intake charges around 250 degrees F. This little change was next to worthless. Winslow stated that to see any gains they needed a minimum of 35 degree lower intake temps. With the room, cooling and psi loss it simply did not make economical sense.

Water/methanol injection is more feasible.

anywho, I hope that helps.

this is a dyno on the g2 done on a fwd passat 2.8 this will give you a comparison of the hp loss due to Quattro 21/22% versus around 9% drive train loss for FWD.

Stuff for 2.8 30v:

EXHAUST

COLD AIR INTAKE

CHIP

CLUTCH

TIP TRANSMISSION CHIP

SUSPENSION

BRAKES

SUPERCHARGER

[Sydeshow MO]

WOW.. thanks, thought we lost this for a minute. Sticky please...

[3.0 King]

Grouse were are you?

[Graffe]

Aye.. in a sea of 1.8's, this post makes me feel all warm inside. Sticky it (again).

[Craigo]

Sticky??

[Grouse]

I am here


I wrote that. let me see if i can find it again.

[Grouse]

link to the real thread

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=1106189#post1106189

[02silverb6]

Has anybody translated the site with the 3.0 tt? I tried to do it cause i thought it was german or dutch but i had no luck. Anyone read german? [confused]

[int2str]

I am german.
Which page do you want to have translated?

[02silverb6]

Trols Voldesen er en ren troldmand og specialist i
motor bygning, tuning af biler af den heftige slags. Trols beregner og tegner Krumtape, plejstænger,
stempler og får det fremstillet i England.

Han inpoter EFI motorstyring som er fuld programerbar, med en bærbar computer.

Trols er fuldt beskæftiget om sommeren med racer biler fra blandt andet rallycross,
rally og bane mm.

Men en gadebil sniger sig ind i ny og næ...


TEKNISKE FACTS :

Audi A4 V6 3,0 Quattro 2001.
Motor :
Tybe: ANS 90 graderes V6 2.976 ccm. 5 ventiler pr. cylænder
Motor styring : EFI ( Tecnolgegi ) euro 96.
Fuld programmerbar med TVAs Bærbar computer.
Twin turbo KKK-K16 OG intercooler med ladetryk på 0,7 bar overtryk.
Stemplerene er blevet skiftede ud med nogle fra en VW Beetle 2,0
Tændspole : Maserati Quattroporte V6 evoluzione.
KN luftfilter.
460 Hk. ved 0,7 bar.
0-100 Km/t Ca. 5 / 5,5 Sek. Målt af Audi-Sport.dk's computer




Undervogn :
Sænket med koni og TVAs spesjeldt lavet ventiler mm. Fuld justerbar.
Fælge : OZ 8 X 18 med 225/40ZR 18 Dunlup SP 9000

Den er meget presis og kontant i styrtøj og undervogn
uden at være for hår til værdags kørelse...

Udover det er lavet en undervogns op sætning til bane.
( Det er seriøst at lave 2 opsætninger til sin gadebil... )


Kabinen :

Kompledt ny læder stuge. Sæderene : Mørke grå, meget blødt og lækkert
( Vaske skind ) på sæde, ryg og beges læder på side stytterne.
Mørke grå læder på dørbeklædninger, indstumendt bor, rat, gear knup, håndbremse,
hattehylde og sisdt og ikke mindst i loftet.

I need all that translated. Thanks![up]

[Grouse]

Has anybody translated the site with the 3.0 tt? I tried to do it cause i thought it was german or dutch but i had no luck. Anyone read german? [confused]

it is danish.

[02silverb6]

Does anyone know danish?

[02silverb6]

This was the translation i got when i put it in a danish-to-english translator:

Trols Voldesen is a clean wizard and an expert in engine building, tuning of cars of the violent kind. Trols calculates and draws Cranks, plejstaengs, stamps and manages to it produce in England. He inpaws EFI motor control that is full programerbar, with a portable computer. Trols is completely occupied with races cars from for instance rally motor cross, rally and track etc in summer. But a street car sneaks into the new moon and no. Technical Facts: Audi A4 V6 3,0 Quattro 2001. Engine: Tybe: ANS 90 is graded V6 2.976 ccm. 5 valves per cylaends Engine control: EFI (Tecnolgegi) euro 96. Full programmable with TVA's Portable computer. Twin trip home KKK-K16 And intercools with barn pressures of 0,7 bars pressure above the atmospheres. Stamp-reindeer have become changed out with some from a VW Beetle 2,0 Tændspole: Maserati Quattroporte V6 evoluzione. KN air filter. 460 H.p.s. Know 0,7 bars. 0-100 Km/h About 5/5,5 Sec.. Measured off Audi-Sport.dk's computer Undercarriage: Lowered with cow-nine and TVA's spesjeldt made valves etc. Full flexible. Rims: OZ 8 X 18 with 225/40ZR 18 Dunlup SP 9000 It's a lot of presis and cash in a handlebars clothes and undercarriage without being for hairs to vaerdag's kørelse. Apart from it an undercarriage's sentence is made sentence to track. (It's serious to make 2 arrangements to one's street car. ) The cabin: Kompledt new leather stuge. Seed reindeers: Darkness gray, very soft and delicious (Sinks skins) on seat, back and beged leather on the page stytters. Darkness gray leather on door s, indstumendt lives, steering wheels, gears knup, handbrake, hat shelf and sisdt and not least on the ceiling.

[black3ltquattro]

Thanks for the info :)

[SirSteezy]

would there be any point in putting a fmic on a 3.0

[3.0 King]

would there be any point in putting a fmic on a 3.0

no!

[SirSteezy]

is there any way to hit like 290 hp without a supercharger

[02silverb6]

Im sure there is but not for any where near under 5 grand.

[SirSteezy]

well i just got a 3.0 and i have about $4000 to put into mods so could someone list some power mods i can do and ho much hp id get from them.

[3.0 King]

well i just got a 3.0 and i have about $4000 to put into mods so could someone list some power mods i can do and ho much hp id get from them.

$4,000 grand! my list would look like this

DIY List:

- Stasis center dif/chng $550
- Ss/draided brake lines $90
- Apr snub mnt.$50
- Short shifter $200
- Optional: Cat eleminators, to be used with stock or after market exhst $600
(your best gains by way of exhst will be with cat/elms)
- Catback exhst, pick one, 5hp-10hp $900
- K&N air filter $50
- Optional Chip: pick one, gains 5hp-12hp 5trq-10trq $200

Total- $2,010

with almost two grand left, go get yourself a brand new pair of shoes kid!

or you could say f..ck it and go in on a group buy and get a blower for $3995 100hp/45trq

[dpatel]

"get a blower for $3995 100hp/45trq"
Note those trq number can be deceiving. You actually get around 50 lb-ft of torque more at the wheels above 5K rpm compared to stock since the stock torque curve drops off so much while the S/C torque holds holds much better.

[0330QA4]

Been doing a lot of reading and Im looking for an ultimate confirmation that a B6 S4 exhaust will fit a 3.0. Ive seen a thread where one guy put a stock S4 exhaust on his 3.0 and other that have had aftermarket S4s put on I just want a full confirmation.

[3.0 King]

Been doing a lot of reading and Im looking for an ultimate confirmation that a B6 S4 exhaust will fit a 3.0. Ive seen a thread where one guy put a stock S4 exhaust on his 3.0 and other that have had aftermarket S4s put on I just want a full confirmation.

its been done and it works...if your looking for a garantee that it will fit there's only one way to find out "do it" from my own experience with exhst work it is a straight foward job and no guess work when instlng a s4 to a4 exhst swap...from the cat-back theres little difference in design as far as the layout and connecting points[wrench]

[Ill 3.0]

^^ well said. FWIW my Milltek cat-back is technically for B6 S4 but I'd guess their S4 and 3.0 cat-backs are identical. By the way, I'm not sure you'd gain much for performance or even sound with stock B6 S4. I'm guessing you're getting a good deal on one, but if it were me I'd go custom route which is generally inexpensive rather than get another heavy stock exhaust.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

u gotta fix the linx bro!

[tj19855]

hmmm I need new cats on my 3.0 but cant find any, only dealer $850 each maybe the s4 fit?

[AK1RA07]

Might be a noob question, but whats the difference between the 2.8 (like from a 30V B5, AWM/ATQ )and B6 3.0 short blocks.. would the two be compatible?

[JEENYUS]

anyway that someone can update the links on this page? they are not working for me (well, some do and some don't 60% dont 40% do)

[JNCity]

I've been searching everywhere for upgrades to the 3.0. I love this site!!!

[PCYC]

hmmm I need new cats on my 3.0 but cant find any, only dealer $850 each maybe the s4 fit?



Labree motorsports has highflow cats for 900