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2012TitaniumA3
04-16-2012, 08:02 AM
Hello,

As the title states, I am pretty new to the Audi world. I have only recently come from the world of GM performance V8s to German engineered inline 4 turbos with the purchase of a new 2012 Audi A3 2.0T FWD with all options including the Titanium Sport Package. I love the car as is, but would really like to know what I can do down the road to add more power to the 2.0T. I have read about chips, flashes, and turbo upgrades that can make as much as 400 crank HP from this engine? So, help me out and tell me about some good (and most of all reliable) power upgrades. Thanks!

jimrobbington
04-16-2012, 09:52 AM
Start with a stage 1 tune. Revo usually has the most torque capabilities. Then work on the exhaust, at least a high flow cat, and you should be able to upgrade your tune for more power. Do things one at a time so you can rightfully appreciate the difference.

racerxjin
04-26-2012, 11:44 AM
I understand that you want alot of HP for you A3, but since you are a front track you will need to add a diff to you car. Anything above 300HP you will get a major wheel spin. Personally I would go with APR. Get to Stage1 first and see how you like it . If you are going to do a Turbo upgrade I would get a down pipe with your turbo upgrade. You want to make sure that it matches you mounting points for you turbo. There are alot of upgrades for your A3. I would start with these vendors.

1. APR
2. Milltek
3. Forge motorsports
4. Neuspeed
5. KW

2012TitaniumA3
04-27-2012, 09:12 AM
Thanks for the replies. I'm not looking for a bunch of HP for this car, I didn't buy it for that, as it is my DD. I sold my 2005 GTO (lots of mods) that was making 460 Crank HP last year because I wanted a more economical vehicle (Yes, I do miss the RWD power). Anyway, what I'm looking for this A3 is some safe upgrades to boost the power without doing any major engine mods. For one thing, my A3 is under factory warranty, and I purchased the Audi Care, so I'm not trying to void anything with mods. The Stage 1 upgrades sound like a good option for boosting HP and TQ by 50 or so, and still being compatible with stock tolerances. How do the Stage 1 upgrades work? Is it like a hand held programmer (like a DiabloSport)? Also, can it be reverted back to stock quickly if I needed to? Thanks again.

racerxjin
04-27-2012, 09:53 AM
Thanks for the replies. I'm not looking for a bunch of HP for this car, I didn't buy it for that, as it is my DD. I sold my 2005 GTO (lots of mods) that was making 460 Crank HP last year because I wanted a more economical vehicle (Yes, I do miss the RWD power). Anyway, what I'm looking for this A3 is some safe upgrades to boost the power without doing any major engine mods. For one thing, my A3 is under factory warranty, and I purchased the Audi Care, so I'm not trying to void anything with mods. The Stage 1 upgrades sound like a good option for boosting HP and TQ by 50 or so, and still being compatible with stock tolerances. How do the Stage 1 upgrades work? Is it like a hand held programmer (like a DiabloSport)? Also, can it be reverted back to stock quickly if I needed to? Thanks again.

I would go with APR stage 1 Mods. They have 91 93 100 and stock option. I believe they are having a sale right now.
Also get at least an air intake either from APR or Neuspeed. I think that is the minimum to do for stage 1.
ECU flash is done at the shop through a VAG. You switch throught the programs with the cruise control button while the engine is off.
Go to goapr.com and research. Good luck.

ECS Tuning-Audi
04-27-2012, 11:29 AM
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2012TitaniumA3
04-27-2012, 02:43 PM
I would go with APR stage 1 Mods. They have 91 93 100 and stock option. I believe they are having a sale right now.
Also get at least an air intake either from APR or Neuspeed. I think that is the minimum to do for stage 1.
ECU flash is done at the shop through a VAG. You switch throught the programs with the cruise control button while the engine is off.
Go to goapr.com and research. Good luck.

Thanks for the info. I found the APR shop in VA via APR's website. Now, I noticed that on APR's site they only list the Stage 1 for 2005 - 2008 A3 2.0T FSI. Forgive my ignorance, but is the same engine as my 2012's 2.0TFSI?

jouzou
04-27-2012, 07:37 PM
hi, I am considering buying a TT 2002- 2005 so I wanted to know if there are any major mechanical problems with these cars. A salesman at the dealership indicated that the 1.8s have a sludge problem and that I should avoid them. What about the 225s? Does anyone know if they are a problem?

Thanks

ECS Tuning-Audi
04-30-2012, 08:01 AM
hi, I am considering buying a TT 2002- 2005 so I wanted to know if there are any major mechanical problems with these cars. A salesman at the dealership indicated that the 1.8s have a sludge problem and that I should avoid them. What about the 225s? Does anyone know if they are a problem?

Thanks

Unfortunately that salesman isn't the smartest guy when it comes to knowing what hes talking about and Audi's. The 225 is still a 1.8T it just has a K04 on it rather than a K03 turbo. 1.8's are known to have sludge issues, but it can be avoided if you keep up with oil changes regularly, run synthetic oil, and the larger oil filter.

Good luck!

Jason

racerxjin
05-01-2012, 11:45 AM
Thanks for the info. I found the APR shop in VA via APR's website. Now, I noticed that on APR's site they only list the Stage 1 for 2005 - 2008 A3 2.0T FSI. Forgive my ignorance, but is the same engine as my 2012's 2.0TFSI?

They do have stage two ecu for your car but in order to go to stage 2 you will have to have the following:
1. Downpipe (might not be offered by APR, milltek might have one)
2. Intake (Nuespeeed has one for your car)

APR is good about modifying ECU for you. Again Good Luck.

ets141
05-01-2012, 03:56 PM
I would go with APR stage 1 Mods. They have 91 93 100 and stock option. I believe they are having a sale right now.
Also get at least an air intake either from APR or Neuspeed. I think that is the minimum to do for stage 1.
ECU flash is done at the shop through a VAG. You switch throught the programs with the cruise control button while the engine is off.
Go to goapr.com and research. Good luck.

You don't need an air intake for stage one.

racerxjin
05-02-2012, 12:39 PM
You don't need an air intake for stage one.

First of all most people would get ride of your tissue box air intake as step 1. Would you like to run a race with a box of tissues taped to your face??? Your car does not like it either.
I would reather have a cotton mask. Also no one in their right mind would want to run the ecu upgrade first. If you can't afford both do the air intake first.
get your car breathing before you start running.

And thanks for the info, I won't keep it in mind.

2012TitaniumA3
05-02-2012, 07:49 PM
First of all most people would get ride of your tissue box air intake as step 1. Would you like to run a race with a box of tissues taped to your face??? Your car does not like it either.
I would reather have a cotton mask. Also no one in their right mind would want to run the ecu upgrade first. If you can't afford both do the air intake first.
get your car breathing before you start running.

And thanks for the info, I won't keep it in mind.

I've done more research, found the correct APR Stage 1 ECU upgrade for my 2012...it is under 2.0 TSI. As far the intake, ets141 is correct that you don't "need" it to run Stage 1. Even APR's own dyno tests show that Stage 1 plus CAI only nets you 2 ft.-lbs of torque and 6 HP throughout the RPM band. I have plenty of experience with modern American performance V8's and the only reason to run a CAI was when you were doing a serious build. Otherwise, just slapping a CAI or other intake on the car without a proper tune wouldn't add anything once the computer "learned" the parameters.

I have pretty much decided on the APR Stage 1 ECU Upgrade. Seems like the most reputable of the three major players.