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drumnjuny
03-03-2012, 10:05 AM
Whatup! My name’s Arjun… the proud owner of a 2007 Ibis B7 A4 2.0T FSI S-Line Quattro 6MT. Welcome to my build thread! ive wanted to say that forever, haha! I remember reading VRT gli builds on the vortex when I was 15, drooling all over my keyboard… and now its finally my turn.


Stock stuff:
RNS-E
Bose Audio
S-line package
32% tint (measured by the 5-0 haha)
Brushed aluminum trim

Some early pictures:
http://i.imgur.com/5dGjX.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/dOp32.jpg
(that’s my roommate)

Bought the car in August 2010, it was originally purchased in late August of 2007 so I got the car with 3 years 47,000 miles on it. Came with brand new pilot sport plus a/s, which was nice!

August 2010
Two weeks after I got it I got a carbonio intake, custom high flow cat, APR R1 diverter valve, APR catback, and APR stage 1 installed. Totally changed my opinion of the car, and made me realize how much I needed suspension (originally I thought that my s-line suspension was sufficient). My stock dv was failing as well so I’m sure the R1 helped me hold boost. Also got an escort 9500ix.

September 2010
Debadged the rear end except for the rings. Love the clean look in the back!!

February 2011
Put a 034 Motorsports turbo inlet hose in. sounds awesome, feels way more sturdy. Not sure about gains though, lol.

Also got an rs4 style grill…

http://i.imgur.com/Vy3KG.jpg

April 2011
Bit the bullet on suspension, brake, and wheel upgrades. Bought OZ Ultraleggeras new from tire rack. Recently sold these to help pay for the kit, gonna be rocking stockers for a bit. To be honest I quite like how they look! Much less aggressive, I have fallen out of love with the gaudy, black OZs… 18x8 et35 5x112

May 2011
Finally get my Stasis (Koni) street sport coilovers, stop tech rotors, pads, and ss braided brake lines in the car. Painted my calipers flat black while they were out. Also did the vag-com mods to get the rtw headlight settings and key fob window control and seatbelt chime. Not happy with my stoptech purchase… going for EBC Redstuff soon I think.

http://i.imgur.com/zPOmk.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ylFoe.png


June 2011
Got the mod bug again… Installed RS4 Rear Sway Bar

Painted the roof and rear valence black!! I think it turned out quite well. Also had front and rear bumpers resprayed b/c of rock chips. I had previously painted all four reflectors, but my reflectors were repainted here and it looked a lot more even than my paint job…

http://i.imgur.com/2Y6UO.jpg

July 2011
JHM short shifter. top three mods of all time… if you don’t have it, check out someone in your area who does and see if u can drive their car. will never own a car without a solid throw shifter again, the difference is shocking. Also installed apr stage 2 (test pipe file) to get rid of the CEL, something I should have done a long time ago.

December 2011
034 motorsport snub mount, eurocode 2.5” test pipe, and adams front rotors (warped my stop tech ones pretty fast) in the car. Much happier with how the car sounds now, even though it is only for a little while!

http://i.imgur.com/yrrkb.jpg

Podi boost gauge also installed… I like it but it has to go… whoever guesses why can have first dibs on it, only been used for a few months.

Clear cornered my headlights and painted the housings black… was very unsure about this for a while but I’m really happy with how it turned out! Also fucked with my headlight switch to have my fogs on without the projectors.


February 2011
After a LOT of deliberating and talking to Ray @ RAI (mad props to their customer service! A++, and trust me I don’t say this lightly… this is the one area where I am very demanding, and the RAI crew has continued to impress me over and over again. PM if you want examples) … build components ordered!! been a dream to me, I can't wait to start the install.


What’s on the car right now…
Apr stage 2 tune
JHM Short shifter
APR R1 Diverter valve
APR downpipe and catback
Eurocode test pipe
034Motorsport turbo inlet hose
034Motorsport snub mount
Carbonio intake
Stasis/Koni Street Sport Coils
RS4 rear sway bar
Adams/Stoptech rotors
Stoptech pads
Stainless steel brake lines
Podi boost gauge
Rs4 grill
HID Fogs 4300k
Sitting on blizzak ws-70s… need tires for the summer


What is on the way…
RAI GTX Kit
- GTX2867R w/ .63 A/R turbine
- Exhaust manifold
- 3” test pipe
- 3” intake
- Synapse Synchronic Diverter Valve
- RAI Catch Can
- FMIC Pressure pipe
- Stainless steel oil lines
- S3 Injectors
- Maestro
RAI FMIC
HPFPUpgrade stage 2 hpfp
HPFPUpgrade 155 bar prv
Eurodyne boost manager +
Integrated engineering rods and install kit


What needs to be bought/done before the turbo goes on…
Motor mounts
Passenger side bumper adjustment bracket
Install rods
Cam follower
BG Cleaning, or at least inspection

What is immediately following the kit:
Clutch & flywheel upgrade (not sure what direction I’m going yet)
Water/Meth kit

What would make my car “finished” (an ever-growing list, of course):
Vinyl my window and interior trim
LED plate lights
10" shallow mount + amp (to replace bose 8", going in stock location)
Add hex mesh to my fog grills
Fix my glovebox
Paint filler plate gloss black
Hard-wire radar detector, with a funk button
Strip and retint car with ceramic 35%
Upgrade to 2010 RNS-E
Adjustable control arms + Thor skid plate + go lower
Upgrade coilovers to ohlins SL (fell in love ever since riding in a b7s4 with them)
Get my dream wheels (not sure what they are yet, but plenty of time here)
BBK
Make the top half of my interior match the bottom half (make it black. Probably never going to do this… I just hate how the bottom half is black and the top is white lol)

Last thing we need to discuss, if I’m not mistaken. Numbers!!! I have to preface this with I don’t really care about numbers… I am merely looking to make the car more fun and competitive, I will definitely be tracking it… as I have more money and/or a second vehicle I will be tracking it more and more often. That being said, RAI pushed 419awhp @44psi out of a GTX30 on a 1.8… yup these turbos like to flow at really high pressures! so 350-400 range is what I am expecting (trying to keep it conservative so as not to be disappointed when I do eventually dyno it lol). Ray at RAI said that he thinks we could potentially push the turbo to 460awhp, but I am more concerned about reliability as this is my only vehicle and a huge investment, I am going to keep the tune relatively conservative to start with. Ray said he will teach me how to use maestro… I consider myself a fast learner so that will be very nice if I move to an area where they sell 93 octane or to sea level… and when I get a second vehicle I will tune the car more aggressively.

ericpaulyoung
03-03-2012, 10:09 AM
Looks to be a sick build! One modification recommended, don't waste money on the BG cleaning and follow Drak's method. Cheaper, and more importantly, it works!! Once you get in there to clean it you will understand why BG doesn't work (that stuff is like 5 mm thick).
- Eric

drumnjuny
03-03-2012, 10:13 AM
Looks to be a sick build! One modification recommended, don't waste money on the BG cleaning and follow Drak's method. Cheaper, and more importantly, it works!! Once you get in there to clean it you will understand why BG doesn't work (that stuff is like 5 mm thick).
- Eric

Thanks!! I think i will be splitting a boroscope with people in the denver area, or having a shop inspect just to see what the buildup is like in there. most people have laughed at me for considering doing this at all, as the car only has 65k on the clock... but i'm looking to do it once and do it right so I might end up just opening it up myself. at the very least I will be splitting a boroscope or having a shop check it out as its about $50 either way, and for peace of mind that's cents on the dollar to me

drumnjuny
03-03-2012, 10:16 AM
I will be calling RAI first thing on Monday to get an update on when the kit is showing up, and hopefully procuring some pictures of progress on the kit, as a lot of the components still need to be made. their fabbing shop is backed up right now, so it might be a few weeks before parts start coming in. i need time to save up for some more of the stuff i need and some buffer cash in case things don't go super smoothly (lets be honest how often do they go smoothly lol?)...

viziers
03-03-2012, 10:37 AM
That is awesome Arjun, Please keep us all updated!!! I'm very excited for you and your build!!




vizi

Operator
03-03-2012, 11:12 AM
Sad thing is, on the day of his install, he'll probably go boarding instead [;)]

viziers
03-03-2012, 11:19 AM
Sad thing is, on the day of his install, he'll probably go boarding instead [;)]

He better sit his ass down and get to work when it arrives! Lol



vizi

ericpaulyoung
03-03-2012, 11:38 AM
Thanks!! I think i will be splitting a boroscope with people in the denver area, or having a shop inspect just to see what the buildup is like in there. most people have laughed at me for considering doing this at all, as the car only has 65k on the clock... but i'm looking to do it once and do it right so I might end up just opening it up myself. at the very least I will be splitting a boroscope or having a shop check it out as its about $50 either way, and for peace of mind that's cents on the dollar to me

Those people are nutz. I had 55k on mine when I pulled it apart, and it was TRASHED!!
- Eric

drumnjuny
03-03-2012, 11:44 AM
operator - what can i say i love to ride [>_<]


Those people are nutz. I had 55k on mine when I pulled it apart, and it was TRASHED!!
- Eric

dang! that's motivation haha for sure... well i will be paying a shop to install the rods, they should be able to peek and let me know, right? i'm not a mechanic by any means, so i am unsure lol but i feel like it would be pretty easy to tell with the internals out?

AudiTFSI3o3
03-03-2012, 01:35 PM
noice! can't wait :D

drumnjuny
03-03-2012, 09:45 PM
hard to focus on schoolwork... i know there's nothing to be done until the parts start showing up but man i am excited!! here's some more eye candy...

http://i.imgur.com/KpIXy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/My2hT.jpg

and here's two pics from when it snowed a month ish ago? plowing like crazyyyy

http://i.imgur.com/fucyu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EajHx.jpg

drumnjuny
03-05-2012, 07:03 AM
looks like i'm bailing on my trip to montana, mainly to get this show on the road! but also because i had the best day of the season riding last week, and my buddy i'd be staying with could only get one day next weekend off from work [=(]

RAI needs another week to finish up the fab work, should be shipped next monday... parts will be here in two weeks!!!

also took the car to a carwash today.... first time its not been cleaned by my own hands... pretty impressed with the brushless wash, more happy about my interior being vacuumed and my underbody being washed. obviously its not even close to as clean as a proper wash but i have zero time nowadays so whatever. here's a glory shot:

http://i.imgur.com/l0cSn.jpg

audi8844
03-05-2012, 08:45 AM
Definitely interested to see where this build goes. I'm on the fence between gtx28 and gtx30

drumnjuny
03-05-2012, 10:19 AM
Definitely interested to see where this build goes. I'm on the fence between gtx28 and gtx30

i suggest calling RAI and talking to ray about the two options (he knows what's up with the GTX turbos). they are very very different... and the gtx30 was just extreme overkill for me. if u've seen the dyno for the 1.8 they have, the torque curve is.... intense to say the least. since peak power/numbers really aren't of any concern to me, i opted to go with the gtx28... i'm more worried about spool so RAI is gonna throw the .63 A/R turbine in in the 2867R for what i hope will be a perfect balance of spool and peak power for me [up]

not gonna lie i do find myself wondering how much i would be able to notice between a 2863R and a 2867R, but after talking to ray for like an hour we agreed upon the 67R so that in case i do want to turn up the peak power i could swap the turbine for a .82 a/r and see where that takes me.

ericpaulyoung
03-05-2012, 10:24 AM
i suggest calling RAI and talking to ray about the two options (he knows what's up with the GTX turbos). they are very very different... and the gtx30 was just extreme overkill for me. if u've seen the dyno for the 1.8 they have, the torque curve is.... intense to say the least. since peak power/numbers really aren't of any concern to me, i opted to go with the gtx28... i'm more worried about spool so RAI is gonna throw the .63 A/R turbine in in the 2867R for what i hope will be a perfect balance of spool and peak power for me [up]

not gonna lie i do find myself wondering how much i would be able to notice between a 2863R and a 2867R, but after talking to ray for like an hour we agreed upon the 67R so that in case i do want to turn up the peak power i could swap the turbine for a .82 a/r and see where that takes me.


Can you share this said torque curve?? ;-) How does the spin up and minimum rpm for boost compare to the KOR?
- Eric

drumnjuny
03-05-2012, 10:28 AM
Can you share this said torque curve?? ;-) How does the spin up and minimum rpm for boost compare to the KOR?
- Eric

these are definitely, definitely BAT applications. especially the GTX3076 on this 1.8.... spool on the KOR should be much faster

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427394_330002863708045_109672955741038_906296_2646 72223_n.jpg

Sales@RAI
03-05-2012, 11:28 AM
these are definitely, definitely BAT applications. especially the GTX3076 on this 1.8.... spool on the KOR should be much faster

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/427394_330002863708045_109672955741038_906296_2646 72223_n.jpg

For the record that was a .82 GTX3071R on an otherwise bone stock 1.8L (power-wise)

ericpaulyoung
03-05-2012, 11:30 AM
Getting an otherwise bone stock car to easily hit 400 whp! You guys do good work my friend!!

- Eric

DRAKLORE
03-05-2012, 11:30 AM
Which ST pads did you originally get? I like the paint scheme on the calipers :-) just converted mine back to that look!

Can't wait for the build to come together, pics, lots
Of pics too :-)

drumnjuny
03-05-2012, 12:31 PM
For the record that was a .82 GTX3071R on an otherwise bone stock 1.8L (power-wise)

my mistake, i thought it was a 3076. and i forgot to mention it was bone stock!!! it has the IE drop in rods though, right?


Getting an otherwise bone stock car to easily hit 400 whp! You guys do good work my friend!!

- Eric

because of the 44psi of boost it was pushing [drool] i believe it had rods as well. clint can clear it up [up]



Which ST pads did you originally get? I like the paint scheme on the calipers :-) just converted mine back to that look!

Can't wait for the build to come together, pics, lots
Of pics too :-)

i think i got a stage 1 stoptech kit... rotors lines + pads? for some reason ever since i got the pads my rotors have been warping (or rather pad deposit on the rotors?). no matter how easy i go on the brakes for 500 miles after turning rotors or buying new ones, it happens again. i'm thinking it is the pads that are the problem, so i'm looking to swap em. next time i turn my AR rotors i'll be sure to get EBC Redstuff at the same time. looks like that's gonna be soon as well, just hit 1k miles since turning the rotors and scuffing the pads and starting to feel mild effects of "warping"... yet again (/suicide)

i am in love with the flat black color. it really matched my flat black wheels well, although I think because they are stock brakes the less attention they grab the better [up] which was my motivation for not hitting them with a clear coat. if i ever get a BBK i will go gloss and show em off [>_<]

and thanks for the support y'all... i will be sure to post a ton of pics when i get the kit in the next two weeks

SleeperAvant
03-09-2012, 09:03 AM
What kind of numbers are you looking to hit with your GTX2867 .63?

drumnjuny
03-09-2012, 11:28 AM
honestly, just looking to make the car feel fast rather than worry about numbers or where it is... but i'm realistically looking at anwhere in the 350-400 range. not looking for more than that, though i'm sure I could push the turbo farther, and the tiny turbine isn't going to help peak power. reliability and DDbility are my focus as this is my only vehicle

i'm sure no matter what RAI will deliver a monster of a car [up]

SleeperAvant
03-09-2012, 11:36 AM
Sounds great. I am looking to switch to a turbo like this, or a CT2-4952.

SykoraA4
03-09-2012, 11:55 AM
i'm sure no matter what RAI will deliver a monster of a car [up]

they tend to do that.

vdubjetta02
03-09-2012, 12:01 PM
I saw you in Boulder Today.... I was in my company Tahoe

drumnjuny
03-09-2012, 12:05 PM
they tend to do that.

[evilsmile] i'm gonna do my best to keep it as reserved as possible. if i ever in the future upgrade valves/springs i could push it further but that assumes having a second vehicle as well


I saw you in Boulder Today.... I was in my company Tahoe

haha uh oh, that's not good. i was in a super rush... u probably saw me do something not very nice lol. didn't get out of work till 1100, interview at 12, class at 1...

drumnjuny
03-09-2012, 12:08 PM
people drive like fucking arses here... [headbang][headbang][headbang] get out of the left lane if you're not passing! every idiot i see is eating or on the phone or looking in the back seat... i'm like you are doing 50mph wtf is wrong with you!

DRAKLORE
03-09-2012, 12:43 PM
It can't be worse than GA drivers!

I love your outlook on the build, at the end of the day it's not about a number. I know you will enjoy the car once it's done :-)

drumnjuny
03-09-2012, 01:17 PM
It can't be worse than GA drivers!

I love your outlook on the build, at the end of the day it's not about a number. I know you will enjoy the car once it's done :-)

thanks haha and yup... it probably comes off as feigned to some people... but i am honestly not worried about numbers. i'm not even willing to throw down the $ to dyno my car at stage 2 before going BT lmao [>_<] i'm looking to have a fast car haha, which no matter what the number is i will feel thrilled with the improvement

SleeperAvant
03-09-2012, 01:18 PM
Yeah, as long as it feels fast to you and is a blast to drive, that's all that matters.

drumnjuny
03-09-2012, 01:30 PM
Yeah, as long as it feels fast to you and is a blast to drive, that's all that matters.

while stage 2 seems sluggish, it still seems quick/nimble sometimes when i get on it. so i can't wait for a gtx on there!! [up] the anxiety is killing me, for real lol

drumnjuny
03-22-2012, 03:55 PM
update, parts are coming out. chris@rai sent me this pic today... super stoked!!

http://i.imgur.com/PLFK4.jpg


also decided to upgrade pistons, valves, springs, retainers, etc. gonna be a long build but i wanna do it once n do it right [up]

viperdsa
03-22-2012, 04:12 PM
are you going to build a separate block or deal with the down time? Last time I talked to Apikol they had a spare block laying around.

DRAKLORE
03-22-2012, 07:45 PM
Do you know what type of flange is in that manifold?
I want lol


External W/G of course lol

drumnjuny
03-22-2012, 09:24 PM
sorry drak no idea.

right now, looks like RAI is gonna do all the engine building work, timing belt, mounting and tune. they've promised full support which is... legit. and having everything come from one shop is going to be nice.

i'm excited to basically have a fresh, built head, very strong engine ready for the track and some high boost haha. car threw a P0299 today "turbocharger underboost"... hottest its been in a bit i'd say and i was kinda rompin on it a little. boost gauge reads 21 spike though so idk. cleared the code and it hasn't come back yet so its straight it? new turbo in a couple months so, i guess no need to worry really lol...

audi8844
03-24-2012, 02:28 PM
are you going to build a separate block or deal with the down time?

x2

drumnjuny
04-01-2012, 10:23 AM
going to deal with downtime. worked out okay; i'm switching jobs... going from a corporate position with 1100 people in my building and 50k employees worldwide to a start up here in boulder with 6 employees. they're a lot more relaxed about timing in general, and in my contract (only lasts till december when I get my bachelors, when i'll be applying places for long term positions) I negotiated for three weeks of time to go spend time with my family during the summer (this is my last "summer," if you will).

luckily my family happens to live an hour from RAI lol.

Operator
04-01-2012, 04:01 PM
You driving out solo? And is RAI just going to keep all the parts (or at least the ones you've yet to recieve). Would be odd for them to send them to you just so you can drive them back.

drumnjuny
04-01-2012, 07:28 PM
You driving out solo? And is RAI just going to keep all the parts (or at least the ones you've yet to recieve). Would be odd for them to send them to you just so you can drive them back.

yeah idk what exactly is happening right now. i think i'm gonna have them send me the bolt on crap so i can have some fun throwing it on...

need to talk to rai and figure out some details... been on vacation the past week so been out of communication

vdubjetta02
04-04-2012, 09:04 AM
I am still a little shocked you went through with this crazy build.... you seem to be one of the very few b7's that will have completed a full motor build & BAT

drumnjuny
04-04-2012, 10:27 AM
I am still a little shocked you went through with this crazy build.... you seem to be one of the very few b7's that will have completed a full motor build & BAT

haha trust me the more i think about it the more shocked i am as well... i know it will be worth it in the end. RAI is going to deliver a monster of a car that I know i will keep forever [up] haha money's meant to be spent right...

funny part is i'm already planning my next project lol. luckily it won't cost half as much!

audi8844
04-10-2012, 07:27 PM
You definitely need to let me know when you have the car together and tuned so I can run to RAI and catch a ride and check it out (willing to pay a 6 pack). This is the exact setup I am looking at, so I am eager to see the outcome here. Good luck with your progression!

DRAKLORE
04-10-2012, 08:18 PM
Time for a clutch ;-P

drumnjuny
04-10-2012, 08:22 PM
^^ yup... clutch is on its way out i suspect the thrust bearing as per drak's suggestion. no slipping but its making some ... disconcerting noises haha but they go away after 5 min of driving around...

i'll post a video eventually but i kinda had a feeling i was gonna do the clutch at the same time anyway just to have the major work done at once hopefully save on some labor [up]

DRAKLORE
04-10-2012, 08:28 PM
How many miles are you at anyways

drumnjuny
04-10-2012, 08:34 PM
How many miles are you at anyways

only 68k lol. not gonna say i don't beat on her from time to time, but must be some serious work by the PO for it to go out this early, if it is the problem that is lol... when i get a better video i'll send it to u again [>_<] thanks haha

i guess it wasn't gonna survive the gtx anyway lol. on another note RAI posted a dyno of a 1.8 pushing 36psi ... 420awhp. not sure if its the same 1.8 or not but it is beastly! the dyno vid got me super excited!!

drumnjuny
04-12-2012, 08:45 AM
ok... need to post this video in hopes that someone will know what this noise is. noise has gotten more and more prominent, i've started to baby the car around a little but it only happens when i first start up the car in cold weather... clutch is not even slipping a little... which is why i'm confused haha

circumstances under which the noise will happen:
- only when its coldish outside (under 45 deg maybe... the colder the worse the noise is but the weather has been warming up lately)
- once the car warms up its gone
- only when clutch is engaged (if i press clutch pedal in, noise disappears)
- car is in 3k+ rpm range, let it coast in gear down to 2k, happens starting at 2800rpms and is intermittent as you can hear.



ps: sorry about the music n hairy legs. i've been trying to take a better video these past few days but the noise hasn't been this loud or prominent since


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cQpvHQArQM

DRAKLORE
04-12-2012, 12:46 PM
Can't view video on my phone right now. But when a throw out bearing starts to go, you won't neccesarily get slipping clutch

drumnjuny
04-12-2012, 12:59 PM
drak, everything i've found online says there should be less noise when the clutch pedal is depressed if the throwout bearing is going bad (the opposite for me), which led me to just post the video and see if anyone knows what's up

rkesh88
04-12-2012, 06:00 PM
It kinda sounds like the downpipe rubbing against the aluminum crossmember like what i have on my car. Maybe?

DRAKLORE
04-12-2012, 06:19 PM
When I get to work I will try to watch the video. If its the opposite than your prob right.

drumnjuny
04-12-2012, 08:24 PM
omg vibration downpipe does resemble what it sounds like. haha... hopefully that's it!

ps im a little drunk going out i'll check later tonight to see what you guys think. def some kind of a vibration/grinding noise but

DRAKLORE
05-09-2012, 05:11 AM
Good luck with your snub mount issue

I've really got to see some pics of this haha

drumnjuny
05-09-2012, 05:59 AM
haha i'll be jacking it up in the next couple hours... i'll definitely text you some pictures.

still not quite sure what happened ha!

Operator
05-09-2012, 06:53 AM
When are you leaving CO again?

drumnjuny
05-09-2012, 07:12 AM
never!!! probably in like two-five years... whenever my knees fully blow out and snowboarding is no longer feasible [=(]

if you mean to take the car to RAI, all the work's gonna be done in june.

about the snub mount... i was just driving along and heard a noise, but i was late for an exam and thought it was just my paranoia... next time i drove the car i realized the shifter is moving around a lot. pop the hood to check out the snub and.... its literally just not there ha. gonna jack up the car right now to see what's up

Operator
05-09-2012, 07:28 AM
never!!! probably in like two-five years... whenever my knees fully blow out and snowboarding is no longer feasible [=(]

if you mean to take the car to RAI, all the work's gonna be done in june.

Oh, so you're just exploiting Colorado for your snowboarding fix!!!!! Shameful!!! I lived in Maryland, and have no real desire to move back to that area of the country!

drumnjuny
05-09-2012, 07:46 AM
Oh, so you're just exploiting Colorado for your snowboarding fix!!!!! Shameful!!! I lived in Maryland, and have no real desire to move back to that area of the country!

haha oh believe me, i won't be moving back there any time soon!!! nova is where people go to die... the negative energy is infectious i swear to god ha. but i will have to move if i can't snowboard, living in the rockies would just drive me insane lol. I do need to live in a warm beach area though, at some point in my 20s... i miss the beach and surfing wayyy too much!!

and there are other things i'm exploiting colorado for [:p]..... haha i know what you were thinking but I just meant the tech corridor / job market for programmers!! (innocent smile)



just talked to Ray... he's gonna post the dyno for the GTX2867r on the mkv, which is on UM tune, doesn't have pistons/head, and not using BM+ ... it made 344awhp on 25 psi spike, 19 hold.... whereas my car should be able to push 30psi! i am fucking stoked b/c apparently it hits peak torque at the same time as a K03! after seeing the chart i will make the final decision, but i trust ray and after hearing that i think i'm gonna want to use the higher A/R turbine and get some of the power into the midrange of the RPMs... and get some more power out of this beast [evilsmile]

i definitely will not be competing with the GT30s for top end, but imagining peak tq at k03 range... my brain is mush. can't wait to see the dyno, i will definitely post the video and dyno here whenever i see it.

i literally CAN NOT WAIT FOR THIS AHHHHH. clutch and single mass flywheel are also going in at the same time. FX400 and getting their steel flywheel.

audi8844
05-09-2012, 09:28 AM
i think i'm gonna want to use the higher A/R turbine and get some of the power into the midrange of the RPMs... and get some more power out of this beast [evilsmile]

What size A/R are you considering instead of the .63?

drumnjuny
05-09-2012, 11:37 AM
What size A/R are you considering instead of the .63?

.82 or .83 i can't remember which one. but you can use either... and i think also a 1.0x but that's way too big for our cars

drumnjuny
05-09-2012, 11:46 AM
so, pulled off the belly pan because i saw the snub was missing... (took the pic after i pulled it off)

http://i.imgur.com/eRyj0.jpg


and i found this sitting in the belly pan:

http://i.imgur.com/Efoey.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/T9IIk.jpg




this is the rest of the snub bracket:

http://i.imgur.com/1k7ly.jpg




and the worst part is, shit doesn't line up at all for me to put a new one in. Pretty sure the passenger motor mount is blown, after talking to some people (thanks draklore lol)... here's a pic, idk if u can tell lol, but its not even close and explains how the snub bracket snapped:

http://i.imgur.com/YvxmZ.jpg

DRAKLORE
05-09-2012, 12:08 PM
Check to see if the mounts are leaking, honestly the motor shouldn't sit so crazy to one side even with the mount off IIRC
You could always hack the motor up and mount the snub bracket and hope it all
Holds untill you can get the mounts figured out

And NP man, it's been like the AZ hotline this last week

drumnjuny
05-09-2012, 12:16 PM
damn that's a good idea! just put it back on and i'll baby the fuck out of the car (or not drive it at all) till i swap the motor mounts, probably next week or whenever they get here...

so how should I even go about getting the engine in the right position to put the snub bracket back on... just set a jack underneath on that metal piece and jack it up until it lines up?

if anyone has any idea what else could be broken for the engine to sit this far off, lemme know. might need to take it into a shop or something and have the pros take a look if its serious

drumnjuny
05-09-2012, 02:08 PM
Ray added a thread with the dyno of the MKV here... SO much low end power!! http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/484559-a-little-big-turbo-info-to-speculate-on

im beginning to think its not too far off from its origin, maybe need to jack it up 1/8 or 1/4 inch MAX. nothing seems like its under too much stress, but i was driving around feeling the transmission pop around through the shifter (visibly moving, a lot ha) so that could have easily pushed it out of whack slightly.

i think that the plan is to just get a new bracket and put it in see if it fits/holds, then baby the car till i get the new mounts in (assuming that is indeed the issue)

here's a picture i took of the passenger side mount, if anyone wants to chime in. definitely some fluid leaking out of it... sorry for the shitty picture its tight under my car w/o a jack haha.

http://i.imgur.com/5rc6u.jpg

DRAKLORE
05-09-2012, 03:32 PM
I believe that means the mount is bad

Don't think fluid should leak out

drumnjuny
05-12-2012, 03:46 PM
car's running again!! just took her on a little cruise down through denver... reeeuuuuniiiteed and it feeeels so gooood

ha. took a couple days for the stealership to get that mount in, and I also had to rethread the two holes that were messed up... but it went back in without a hitch! here's to hoping it stays in [up]

mec
05-12-2012, 06:52 PM
This thread needs moar gtx

drumnjuny
05-12-2012, 07:41 PM
ha come back in a month [>_<]

mec
05-13-2012, 12:07 AM
Whats the story, is Ray still suggesting you do pistons, rods and valve springs(vales too?)? I'm looking at buying a second engine to build in the mean time because I can't afford their turbo kits.

drumnjuny
05-13-2012, 12:21 AM
story is i'm going balls to the wall man.

edit: i am definitely invited to helping you build a second motor on the side! thanks [:p]

vdubjetta02
05-15-2012, 02:34 PM
Maybe your car will sound like mine after the install?

haha j/k.... Catless v8 FTW! But your car will sound mean as hell when that turbo spools

drumnjuny
05-15-2012, 11:52 PM
haha ya i have 2.5" ... haha. probably should upgrade the downpipe to a 3"-2.5" downpipe lol since the test pipe is 3"... it'll have to do for now lol

mec
05-16-2012, 12:47 AM
has it been a month yet?

Firefox250
05-16-2012, 07:59 AM
^^X2 needs MOAR GTX!

drumnjuny
05-16-2012, 08:01 AM
trust me hahaha

i dream about it every night

vdubjetta02
05-16-2012, 10:43 AM
I dream about riding/taking this car for a test drive

mec
05-16-2012, 12:48 PM
What got you set on the 28 vs 30? If I remember correctly you can push close to high 50s psi on a 30 vs maxing at high 30's on a 28. Since you are doing a full build why not go with a gtx3076? or is it just a matter of lag with our altitude?

drumnjuny
05-16-2012, 06:20 PM
andrew - haha lets dream about it running first...


martin - the reason is because there are too many other limiting factors that our cars hit... i don't think i'd be able to properly use the turbo to its potential.

with that in mind, the early spool is much more appealing to me. the .82 a/r turbine should help my top end boost, but holding peak power for 3k+ rpms sounds better to me. i think the whole appeal of the GTX is the combo of low end boost and high end power ya know? so i didn't want to sacrifice the low end power. if u look at the b6, it doesn't spool till 4k ish IIRC.

its just personal preference in the end... especially since there's no real way to know how these turbos will perform as so little people have put them on our cars/engines

drumnjuny
05-16-2012, 11:28 PM
got this done today, been wanting to do it forever! I only did it for one side, as i didn't feel it was necessary for both (i only have a piston on one side, not sure why people reinforced the other??). since i took the picture i colored black with a sharpie in the gap, and cleaned up the excess glue crap. honestly the hinge is so strong the glue seems completely unnecessary. and i'm pretty sure I am going to grease the inside of the piston, but opted out of drilling a hole in the back. my reasoning was that it would take 30 seconds to get the piston out if i ever needed to regrease it (which i'm sure i will) and it doesn't require removing the glove box so, doesn't seem like a big deal if i needed to do it a couple more times during the life of the car. i test fitted it in the glove box and it fit perfectly, which is a lot harder than it seems when you're hinge thing is 90% pulled off like mine was. pretty thrilled with the outcome, excited to have a working glove box light again haha

http://i.imgur.com/alVYE.jpg



I have an extra bracket & screws since I only installed one side... four screws and bracket, all powdercoated black. PM me if u want it, and here's a picture because pictures are cool:

http://i.imgur.com/YTxNm.jpg

mec
05-17-2012, 12:04 AM
DIBS!

drumnjuny
05-17-2012, 06:46 AM
YGTXT dewd

drumnjuny
05-30-2012, 01:20 PM
car was all fucked up over the past week... oil leaking from the oil cap as well as from the valve cover gasket... idle was everywhere!! people thought i was being obnoxious at red lights haha... car has a mind of its own! scariest part was it adding throttle to situations where i was in gear and braking... lol! codes 0299, 0171, 05xx and some other one. aka PCV

scheduled myself for pcv, breather hose, coilpack, and intake runner flap motor recalls... they swapped the VC gasket for free as well and topped off my oil. CAR RUNS LIKE BRAND NEW. RPMs fall and rise much, MUCH faster, car runs much smoother... I think a significant amount of this was due to the PCV failure but at the same time, that has only been happening the past week or so. I suggest everyone has their intake manifold recall done... i know draklore told me as well that his car ran beautifully well after the recall was done (and he only did the intake recall)

finishing up my radar hardwire / funk button job... pics to come shortly! I am going to try and get some new front pads in, grease the rails, and have my rotors turned to try and fix the rotor issues i've been dealing with. also going to try to vinyl my window trim before making the trek back to RAI next weekend, when my car will finally be going under the knife.

unbelievably excited for what's to come. i know RAI will produce, haha... as ray said in another thread, with the amount of work i'm having them do, there's no excuses!! supercarkiller or bust! [:p]

mec
05-30-2012, 02:19 PM
whats your paypal??

drumnjuny
05-30-2012, 07:21 PM
pics of the radar install (didn't take a pic of the funk button b/c i figure everyone knows what it looks like):

http://i.imgur.com/q5sjB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/x2fvD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mUsvY.jpg

AWDxTY
06-02-2012, 11:10 AM
Lets see your GTX dyno!

mec
06-03-2012, 01:02 PM
^x20,000,000

Operator
06-03-2012, 01:11 PM
pics of the radar install (didn't take a pic of the funk button b/c i figure everyone knows what it looks like):

http://i.imgur.com/q5sjB.jpg

Did you beat that M3 off the line [;)]


Lets see your GTX dyno!



^x20,000,000


Let the man get the kit installed 1st.......

drumnjuny
06-03-2012, 11:07 PM
haha i know right dave, haven't even seen a single part in the kit yet [=(]

i'm way too excited though!!

vdubjetta02
06-13-2012, 08:45 AM
update us you little comedian!

DRAKLORE
06-13-2012, 08:53 AM
Hes waiting to drop a bomb!

Or just to stoned to remember how to navigate to his build thread [:p]

drumnjuny
06-13-2012, 11:53 AM
hahaha nothing really to report, dropped the car off at RAI yesterday, hopefully they are tearing it apart...

Ray said he was gonna take a baseline dyno yesterday, so i'm excited to see what that looks like. bringing the car down to sea level and putting 93 in it (and using the APR 93 program) gave my car a whole new attitude, i fucking loved driving it around for the like 4 hours i had it before leaving it with RAI, can't wait to see what its like with the gtx on there [>_<]

also saw some of the parts going into the car & met a bunch of the guys at the shop, saw some cool cars, like the GTX b6 that's just shy of 500 wheel

Ray said the car should be assembled and running by friday afternoon. i wanna go check it out but i don't wanna bug them too much haha... im very slightly nervous about making it back to CO fast enough so as not to piss off my boss, lol, but ray has reassured me that the harder builds take about two weeks so as long as everything goes smoothly mine should be fine.

i'm already gunning for the 40A wiring of the lpfp and tuning the BMP to control it, but we'll see what happens when we max out the lpfp first.

vdubjetta02
06-13-2012, 02:05 PM
let me know the day you get to boulder. I want to ride and test drive this thing

audi8844
06-13-2012, 04:15 PM
Glad to hear she is under the knife and in good hands! Lmk when you go to pick this finished beast up. GL!

mec
06-13-2012, 08:24 PM
Already called dibs on the first ride in CO! :) can't wait dude! best luck to you and the RAI guys.

drumnjuny
06-14-2012, 08:02 AM
haha we'll have to organize a g2g where i can give a bunch of people rides... preferably in a non-traffic prone area [>_<]

called RAI today, got my baseline dyno - 190 awhp 230 awtq.

also, YET ANOTHER testament to RAI and they're commitment to their customers, Andy is gonna be there all saturday working on my car, even though the shop is closed on the weekends to help me get back to CO as soon as possible. +1 yet again for RAI's customer service!

ericpaulyoung
06-14-2012, 08:23 AM
haha we'll have to organize a g2g where i can give a bunch of people rides... preferably in a non-traffic prone area [>_<]

called RAI today, got my baseline dyno - 190 awhp 230 awtq.

also, YET ANOTHER testament to RAI and they're commitment to their customers, Andy is gonna be there all saturday working on my car, even though the shop is closed on the weekends to help me get back to CO as soon as possible. +1 yet again for RAI's customer service!

That is really a top notch shop.

As for the build, I am sitting staring at the screen waiting for your dyno! THE FIRST B7 GTX DYNO BABY!!!

An absolute must is a video (with sound) of the dyno run. We must hear that GTX wind up!

-Eric

ericpaulyoung
06-14-2012, 09:00 AM
called RAI today, got my baseline dyno - 190 awhp 230 awtq.

This is good to know; so a driver can expect about 190 awhp with a well setup stage II car. I would have expected more for Stage II, but you can't argue with proof!! ;-)

mec
06-14-2012, 09:55 AM
That is really a top notch shop.

As for the build, I am sitting staring at the screen waiting for your dyno! THE FIRST B7 GTX DYNO BABY!!!

An absolute must is a video (with sound) of the dyno run. We must hear that GTX wind up!

-Eric

Whoa what you're going to be the first gtx b7? Rai told me they had already done a few though they did most on traverse 2.0t

ericpaulyoung
06-14-2012, 09:57 AM
Whoa what you're going to be the first gtx b7? Rai told me they had already done a few though they did most on traverse 2.0t

Maybe they have, but I have never seen any dynos of those bad boys. So either the customers didn't want to share, or they didn't dyno them.

- Eric

DRAKLORE
06-14-2012, 10:29 AM
I didn't think there was a transverse B7A4?

Are not
All B7s longitudinal

drumnjuny
06-14-2012, 10:39 AM
Baseline numbers were a little lower than i expected, to be completely honest. but the lower the numbers, the bigger % gain from the kit so I am happy with as low numbers as it gets! For the record their dyno is notorious for being a heartbreaker [up]

RAI has shipped out a few kits to individuals already; so i will definitely not be the first b7 GTX unless those people haven't done any install yet i guess...
but i will be the first that will be dyno tuned by Ray & built by the RAI team. plus, if im not mistaken, im the only one who is doing internals past rods...

I will do my best to get the team to hook up some pictures and videos; i'm hoping for a first start and the final dyno run [up] i'll try to be present if we can coordinate but it is about 1:30 from where i'm staying in nova (and DC metro area has the 2nd worst traffic in north america, second only to LA's shitshow) and I am getting as much family time in as i can with my homies while i'm here so won't be making the trip more than once. I'm driving up to manhattan next week so i'll stop by the shop on my way up and back down and definitely take some pictures. car should be assembled by then, but hopefully i can catch some mid-build pics

shiro1745
06-14-2012, 11:11 AM
@ Shane, he probably meant vw 2.0 traverse

audi8844
06-14-2012, 12:50 PM
@ Shane, he probably meant vw 2.0 traverse

This
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZzlBglZu44

ericpaulyoung
06-14-2012, 01:20 PM
344 whp on a 2 wheel drive car with the same engine.

I am betting on 7% more losses for the AWD car vs. the FWD, and assuming 22% losses for our b7's. This gives (344 / 0.85) * 0.78 = 316 awhp with a peak MAF reading of exactly 300.2 g/s, no meth.

That is a beast number if you are spooled up by 3500rpms !!!!!! The torque curve would be flat as Kansas ;)

- Eric

mec
06-14-2012, 01:41 PM
Yea I meant 2.0t traverse as in vw/a3 maybe, but they said they had shipped some kits to a few a4's so I guess what they meant is that Arjun will be the first in house full build with a dyno tune by Ray. Those numbers seem low, but I guess without seeing the dyno curve they don't mean much.

Also Arjun is building the head and doing pistons so that should definitely help push the boost up. Port + polish the head, some oversized valves and that will for sure increase the VE, maybe 4-6 extra PSI? Also that GTI is on a .64 a/r, Arjun is doing a .82 so that will also help. I'm stoked to see your car though, its gonna be a beast no doubt. Something came up with my living situation next year, so I may not be able to build my car this year, which means I'll be up in boulder drooling over your car for the next year lol.

What PSI are you planning on running? Also are you getting 83 or sticking with 82.5 pistons?

audi8844
06-14-2012, 03:34 PM
Plus this was at like 24 psi. The key with these gtx turbos is that they can still flow well at higher psi. I'm sure arjun can run closer to 30psi

ericpaulyoung
06-14-2012, 04:04 PM
Plus this was at like 24 psi. The key with these gtx turbos is that they can still flow well at higher psi. I'm sure arjun can run closer to 30psi

The GTX can sustain SUBSTANTIALLY higher boost levels if your engine can handle it. If he pushes up to 30, you will need to add a pretty penny to my earlier estimate.

jimrobbington
06-14-2012, 06:01 PM
This is good to know; so a driver can expect about 190 awhp with a well setup stage II car. I would have expected more for Stage II, but you can't argue with proof!! ;-)

Well, he was APR, so you shouldn't have expected much. Lol. That is pretty sad though. Haha. Revo's 221/302 ftw!

Can't wait, Arjun! I'll drive to boulder to see this thing when you are back if I have to!

drumnjuny
06-14-2012, 06:04 PM
actually, the GTX's don't like to flow at such a low psi. that GTI was boosting 21 and spiking at 24... we are looking to boost and hold over 30 psi because that's where the turbo starts to flow properly. also tuning will be much more aggressive due to the supporting internals going into the build. we are doing rods pistons valves springs retainers with the head and pistons all being special coated etc etc ha...

many a pretty penny were being spent on peace of mind (knowing my head wont melt into my block haha)... i started with just rods and then it became this whole build... and then we went from keeping it as safe as it could be to making it a powerhouse since parts-wise i was already ten toes in it

drumnjuny
06-14-2012, 06:13 PM
also everyone don't worry you will all get rides haha :)

drumnjuny
06-18-2012, 08:21 PM
stopped by the shop today

http://i.imgur.com/J1Qia.jpg



here's the pic RAI posted on fb

https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/532875_404739149567749_1956597464_n.jpg

mec
06-18-2012, 10:45 PM
that pipe and turbo set up looks sick!!!!!

DavidAAG
06-19-2012, 01:47 AM
Wow. Love it.

drumnjuny
06-19-2012, 05:56 AM
ahhh i can't wait to go back tomorrow haha...

vdubjetta02
06-19-2012, 06:46 AM
You are going to make my ditch my S4 and go BT on b8 a4 Sline...... I hate you

drumnjuny
06-19-2012, 06:52 AM
haha lets see what my car sounds like first [>_<] only then will we know how envious andrew truly is... i don't see you ditching your airplane

Sales@RAI
06-19-2012, 07:11 AM
It was nice meeting you Arjun, always cool to put a face to a name. Things are rocking along with your beast, I can't wait to get it on the dyno and start tuning.

drumnjuny
06-19-2012, 07:42 AM
thanks Dan!! i'm stoked haha i just saw your guys' facebook post [>_<] seems like youguys/me/thecar have a little fanbase growing haha :P

Sales@RAI
06-19-2012, 08:36 AM
Some sneak peaks

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu360/RAImotorsport/DSC02045.jpg

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu360/RAImotorsport/DSC02047.jpg

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu360/RAImotorsport/DSC02049.jpg

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu360/RAImotorsport/DSC02059.jpg

ericpaulyoung
06-19-2012, 08:46 AM
That is sexy.

audi8844
06-19-2012, 08:49 AM
That is sexy.

x2!

bananas
06-19-2012, 08:57 AM
What coolant fittings are those?

Sales@RAI
06-19-2012, 09:18 AM
What coolant fittings are those?

I'll find out the specs on them and let you know [up]

drumnjuny
06-19-2012, 07:47 PM
god damn that is pretty!!!

jimrobbington
06-19-2012, 08:44 PM
Dude, I'm so excited for you!

mec
06-20-2012, 12:41 AM
Moar pics bro!

SleeperAvant
06-20-2012, 06:00 AM
Nice update Dan!

vdubjetta02
06-20-2012, 07:53 AM
this isn't externally wastegated?

drumnjuny
06-21-2012, 06:09 AM
nope

drumnjuny
06-21-2012, 09:54 AM
previously, I had a eurocode TP (2.5") to the apr downpipe (2.5") to the apr catback (2.5" to 2x2.25")... but rai is currently fabbing up a 1 pc testpipe/downpipe to replace all the 2.5" with 3" piping!!

ericpaulyoung
06-21-2012, 10:07 AM
What is the total labor bills for installation and tuning?

- Eric

drumnjuny
06-21-2012, 10:30 AM
a lot haha. i'd rather not discuss [>_<]... Ray has and continues to hook it up like crazy and helped out a bunch on the cost side of things. i like to think we're both making sacrifices to make this build happen!

Sorry drake, lil wayne, YMCMB... but YOLO is not the motto at all. the of this build is motto is do it once n do it right... the first time lol. so i just sucked it up and paid what i had to [up]

ericpaulyoung
06-21-2012, 10:44 AM
a lot haha. i'd rather not discuss [>_<]... Ray has and continues to hook it up like crazy and helped out a bunch on the cost side of things. i like to think we're both making sacrifices to make this build happen!

Sorry drake, lil wayne, YMCMB... but YOLO is not the motto at all. the of this build is motto is do it once n do it right... the first time lol. so i just sucked it up and paid what i had to [up]

PM me a range, I am thinking about something similar in the future (phase III+ maybe), and would like to get an idea what a qualified shop charges for this level of work.
Thanks,
Eric

Dan[FN]6262
06-21-2012, 11:58 AM
so I probably heard this thing running....

drumnjuny
06-21-2012, 05:18 PM
PM me a range, I am thinking about something similar in the future (phase III+ maybe), and would like to get an idea what a qualified shop charges for this level of work.
Thanks,
Eric

EPY - do me a favor and just hit them up and ask what they'd charge. Ray is mega chill and probably won't mind talking you through the labor costs for different installs. my situation is truly unique and every build is different so it would be more accurate just to ask them [up] truth is i got a killer deal, as far as i'm concerned... so i'm not sure it would be kosher for me to start telling people. keep in mind i bought everything through RAI... all the parts and they did all of the labor


6262;7706564']so I probably heard this thing running....

jealous!! I managed to snap some pictures of the b6 they have in there running a GTX30 (if i'm not mistaken). think looks so hot!

ericpaulyoung
06-22-2012, 10:31 AM
You are going to smoke GT30 cars! The quick spool and pressure ratios this GTX can handle may have made the GT30 platform obsolete in my opinion.
Eric

drumnjuny
06-22-2012, 11:18 AM
i agree the GTX isn't a great call for our tiny motors... not for what I want at least [up]

Sales@RAI
06-22-2012, 11:29 AM
You wussies [:p].... I run a 71lb/min turbo on my baby 1.8L!!!! lol

ericpaulyoung
06-22-2012, 01:18 PM
i agree the GTX isn't a great call for our tiny motors... not for what I want at least [up]

You missed it, I am saying IT IS A GREAT TURBO for our cars, in such a way as to potentially combine the 2860/K04 and GT30 series so that those two both are now obsolete. We will have to see!
- Eric

drumnjuny
06-22-2012, 01:50 PM
whoops, i read, and meant to say GTX30 haha, is not what i want, but a GT30 is also not what i want. i agree the GT30 is on its way out for our cars...

i also agree that the GTX series bridges the gap, i think the GT28 is the spot in the lineup i want to be at :)

71 lb/min!? damn dude!

drumnjuny
06-22-2012, 02:01 PM
nothings happened and no updates. im not gonna post in here for a while. later y'all, i'll let u know when the car is done.

DRAKLORE
06-22-2012, 10:17 PM
You are going to smoke GT30 cars! The quick spool and pressure ratios this GTX can handle may have made the GT30 platform obsolete in my opinion.
Eric

I'm sorry but out of all the posts I've read this had got
To be top ten most retarded.

GTX offers nothing over a GT30 untill 30+ psi, and not one single 2.0Tfsi build in our action runs close
To over 30 psi on any turbo...

The spool difference may be... 200rpms? Idk I haven't literally compared a GTX side by side with a GT series..

And yes as
Much as I love this build, talk with arjun every day, and plan to move to a different turbo eventually.. It would never be smaller than a GT30..

Just please don't
Talk about a GTX like its an EFR... I'm not trying to down Arjun and he knows that, his build isn't to humiliate GT30 or KO4 cars, he's got a set goal list and I don't think he is the kind of dude who is going to be tracking his car in a dedicated manner... That being the case, I don't think you ever understood the whole "spool is relative to RPM" comments I made a while back.
Turbos don't "bridge gaps" I made a thread a while back about psi vs CFM... The only turbo that comes
Close to bridging gaps you can't even get. And will cost $$$$ just like the GTX compared to GT. I love this build, me and Arjun have detailed convos about it daily and I will either move away from garret turbos and go with a precision, or eventually get a GTX30 if the EFR series are still unreleased. but honestly, our cars do not have the fueling to support a turbo of GTX28 size or bigger past 30psi. Hopefully Arjun gets the fueling he needs and I know RAI has some surprises to
Come..
But unless we are talking GTX25... I don't see the gains to be had over GT series FOR NOW... Get injectors released, lots of meth, secondary injection system combined with a GTX28 @35+ psi... Yes maybe you will see similar gains..
It's not going to just spool faster on its own, not anything noticeable at least.

Bassically it's like me thinking I will be faster than say slims HTA3582 or someones 35R because my GT30'will spool faster... I will be faster... For a second. Just like a KO4 car might get a jump on me, but unless we are racing 100meter Dashes or just looking to break our passengers necks and shake
babies to death, I don't see any win




Sorry Arjun, didn't mean to
Corrupt your thread... Carry on with updates :)

drumnjuny
06-25-2012, 08:01 AM
i agree with everything u said shane... except that i might make this my dedicated track car but even then it won't be for years, till i have something nicer to drive [:p] hehe

personally i am anxious to see how far we can push this car, from my talks with ray we are expecting to run over 30 psi, so we'll see how the fueling side handles that but truth is we won't know how far the car will go till they start tuning it... and then hopefully wiring up the LPFP and making adjustments but i seriously doubt i'm gonna have time to do that at this point

ericpaulyoung
06-25-2012, 10:23 AM
I think the gtx2867r flows about 45ish lb/min, and a 3071r flows 48lb/min. So I am betting RAI can tune this beast to > 400 awhp, which would put it squarely in the GT30 range. So if it has stronger low-mid AND has a comparable on top, why wouldn't it supersede the GT30? I guess the better way to ask the question is, if they are the same cost, why choose less power? This is all speculation at this point, but if it turns out this good I think it will be a no brainer. Or maybe I am just too hopeful that technology will advance to give us the well rounded all-rpm turbo solution I dream about. Either way, not trying to troll a response from you Shane, just speculating (hoping).

I hope someday we all meet up at a Audi get together so we can have a few pitchers and discuss politics, religion, and the best turbo for our cars! ;)

Now show me that bad-ass dyno sheet!

- Eric

DRAKLORE
06-25-2012, 12:01 PM
I think the gtx2867r flows about 45ish lb/min, and a 3071r flows 48lb/min. So I am betting RAI can tune this beast to > 400 awhp, which would put it squarely in the GT30 range. So if it has stronger low-mid AND has a comparable on top, why wouldn't it supersede the GT30? I guess the better way to ask the question is, if they are the same cost, why choose less power? This is all speculation at this point, but if it turns out this good I think it will be a no brainer. Or maybe I am just too hopeful that technology will advance to give us the well rounded all-rpm turbo solution I dream about. Either way, not trying to troll a response from you Shane, just speculating (hoping).

I hope someday we all meet up at a Audi get together so we can have a few pitchers and discuss politics, religion, and the best turbo for our cars! ;)

Now show me that bad-ass dyno sheet!

- Eric

http://www.motoiq.com/magazine_articles/articletype/articleview/articleid/1802/pageid/2596/an-inside-look-at-the-new-garrett-gtx-turbochargers.aspx

A 28 is still a 28, and a 30 is still a 30... GT or GTX. the place where the GTX performs is in the 30+ PSI range, that is where you could say it "bridges the gap"
if Arjun and rai can get his motor to support this turbo past 30+ psi well that means a lot for the whole platform... bassically you would see the GT turbo builds making way more than they are now... bassically the eschelon of builds would move up... and at no point would the GTX28 surpass the GT30.. unless we are talking 40PSI and at that point yes i would gather both builds would be eerily similar performance wise...

ericpaulyoung
06-25-2012, 01:22 PM
Say what, the article refers to the "3076 mid size turbo"! Does this mean all the BT guys should be MT guys ;)

- Eric

Don Supreme
06-25-2012, 01:30 PM
I think the gtx2867r flows about 45ish lb/min, and a 3071r flows 48lb/min. So I am betting RAI can tune this beast to > 400 awhp, which would put it squarely in the GT30 range. So if it has stronger low-mid AND has a comparable on top, why wouldn't it supersede the GT30? I guess the better way to ask the question is, if they are the same cost, why choose less power? This is all speculation at this point, but if it turns out this good I think it will be a no brainer. Or maybe I am just too hopeful that technology will advance to give us the well rounded all-rpm turbo solution I dream about. Either way, not trying to troll a response from you Shane, just speculating (hoping).

I hope someday we all meet up at a Audi get together so we can have a few pitchers and discuss politics, religion, and the best turbo for our cars! ;)

Now show me that bad-ass dyno sheet!

- Eric

I would be BLOWN AWAY if this turbo made > 400 AWHP on the RAI mustang..... mid to upper 300s sounds like a more realistic expectation w/ an awesome power band. If it does break 400 that would be amazing.

ericpaulyoung
06-25-2012, 01:32 PM
Don't worry Shane, I am starting to look at the bigger turbos for the next project (after I get the current one running right first!)
- Eric

ericpaulyoung
06-25-2012, 01:35 PM
I would BLOWN AWAY if this turbo made > 400 AWHP on the RAI mustang..... mid to upper 300s sounds like a more realistic expectation w/ an awesome power band. If it does break 400 that would be amazing.

APR has already passed 400 awhp on their MaxR golf project with this turbo on a 2.0TSI on 93 oct pump gas, and they are still going. So we can't be far off with a little 100 oct file or meth.

http://www.facebook.com/BFGMaxR

drumnjuny
06-25-2012, 01:37 PM
i too would be pretty shocked if my car puts down 400

ericpaulyoung
06-25-2012, 01:38 PM
Sadly (because I love the K04), APR chose the GTX2867R to replace the K04 on their Golf-R :( Arjun is going to have one smoking fast car!

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.325234367557856.74091.259384377476189&type=1

"The one thing we really like about the factory turbo (K04) is the response it gives in the lower RPM’s. Turbocharger spool is very quick but the power at redline dies off as the small turbo is not able to efficiently produce the airflow numbers necessary for big power. Over the years we’ve tested several different turbocharger systems on the 2.0T from the GT2860RS to the GT3076R Turbocharger. The smaller units offer lightening fast spool while the bigger units offer big top end power. If we were after a car that’s only to be used in a straight line, we’d go with a large turbocharger and call it a day, but this is the MaxR, an AWD beast that’s driven daily. Spool is very important.

Enter the GTX2867R Turbocharger from Garrett Honeywell!

The GTX2867R is a new turbocharger unit from Garrett that offers a lightweight billet compressor wheel with next generation geometry for extremely fast turbocharger spool and high-end airflow numbers. It’s able to spool very quickly while still offering the headroom necessary for top end power as we cross 7000 RPM."

Sales@RAI
06-25-2012, 01:39 PM
I would BLOWN AWAY if this turbo made > 400 AWHP on the RAI mustang..... mid to upper 300s sounds like a more realistic expectation w/ an awesome power band. If it does break 400 that would be amazing.

same here.

drumnjuny
06-25-2012, 01:39 PM
EPY, i think you're overlooking the lpfp and fueling restraints

ericpaulyoung
06-25-2012, 01:42 PM
EPY, i think you're overlooking the lpfp and fueling restraints

Good point. I was considering only the turbo's capability and that you would solve the fueling restrictions.

ericpaulyoung
06-25-2012, 01:43 PM
same here.

You will have some people driving out East to your shop if you do squeeze 400awhp with a sweet low-mid ! ;)
- Eric

DRAKLORE
06-25-2012, 02:00 PM
Sadly (because I love the K04), APR chose the GTX2867R to replace the K04 on their Golf-R :( Arjun is going to have one smoking fast car!

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.325234367557856.74091.259384377476189&type=1

"The one thing we really like about the factory turbo (K04) is the response it gives in the lower RPM’s. Turbocharger spool is very quick but the power at redline dies off as the small turbo is not able to efficiently produce the airflow numbers necessary for big power. Over the years we’ve tested several different turbocharger systems on the 2.0T from the GT2860RS to the GT3076R Turbocharger. The smaller units offer lightening fast spool while the bigger units offer big top end power. If we were after a car that’s only to be used in a straight line, we’d go with a large turbocharger and call it a day, but this is the MaxR, an AWD beast that’s driven daily. Spool is very important.

Enter the GTX2867R Turbocharger from Garrett Honeywell!

The GTX2867R is a new turbocharger unit from Garrett that offers a lightweight billet compressor wheel with next generation geometry for extremely fast turbocharger spool and high-end airflow numbers. It’s able to spool very quickly while still offering the headroom necessary for top end power as we cross 7000 RPM."

That's funny, because I remember distinctly keeping up just fine with THAT EXACT GTX28 POWERED "MAXR" DRIVEN BY IAN BASS....

I'm just saying, if power is proven on the street, check out my vids...


LOL

DRAKLORE
06-25-2012, 02:02 PM
EPY, i think you're overlooking the lpfp and fueling restraints

XAlot

ericpaulyoung
06-25-2012, 02:39 PM
That's funny, because I remember distinctly keeping up just fine with THAT EXACT GTX28 POWERED "MAXR" DRIVEN BY IAN BASS....

I'm just saying, if power is proven on the street, check out my vids...
LOL

Right on, you have vids of you smoking that exact same Max-R! Coolio, send me the link, I want to relish in our b7 doing work ;)

- Eric

DRAKLORE
06-25-2012, 04:29 PM
IT'S called my build thread... And I never "smoked" it
Yes it was "that exact MaxR"
Please do not put words into my mouth.. And let's not get ahead of ourselves!
I get out and drive with all of them and have a good idea what a lot of setups actually do on pavement.

EDIT: despite my huge dislike of APR, those guys were pretty decent, Ian gave a lot of respect for my car and thankfully let me drive behind their MaxR, (I was the second car out of the gate)
And despite having a slow pace car, the few times
We were able to get on it, I didn't see any issues keeping pace with him despite the Golf RSB awesome handling)!!!

ericpaulyoung
06-25-2012, 04:47 PM
Already looked in your thread, but didn't find the video of the track day with the MaxR.
- Eric

DRAKLORE
06-25-2012, 06:33 PM
Damn it's like 45 mins of video, im not about to link that shit here.
Some Boring slow stuff with moments of speed ect, we weren't on a track day, this was at Helen fucking GA.

Out of hundreds of cars there... I was literally the one Ian Bass was cool with driving behind him, I really fucking hate sounding conceited or w/e but I'm telling you I hung with him in the APR "MaxR" golf. Which was powered by a
this is the Bfgoodrich MaxR GolfR powered by a GTX28 turbo.. It's got pretty much everything, even with a full interior and working stereo
I didn't see anyone else get offered second seat, and no one
Else was keeping up with us when we were able to
Let loose...

So thank you

DRAKLORE
06-25-2012, 06:37 PM
dude Arjun sorry for blowing up your thread.. Like I said I'm not about to post the whole video here but here is a bit...
YES THAT GOLFR IN FRONT OF ME IS THE MAXR THANK YOU HAVE A NICE DAY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or9LJ7Sx3Y4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I never said I smoked him at a track event, you keep putting words in my mouth, I said I had no issue keeping up with him, was it a quick car? Yes, could it out handle a B7... Yes
Were we playing around YES but I could clearly see it was not this car that was going to "Bridge gaps"
For all I know it was detuned, but Ian said he was putting it through its paces and it was set up exactly how it is for track events.

Name another B7 member that was commended for keeping up and having a fast B7 by the APR race crew, that was until they saw "powered by Vast" lmao


EDIT2: look up vid 006 which is the one after this, 2:40 into the vid you can see some good pulls with me and the MaxR... I don't see it gaining on me except in the really curvy stuff

yungcotter
06-25-2012, 06:44 PM
Are you 2 done yet? [headbang]

drumnjuny
06-25-2012, 06:50 PM
haha its cool shane i don't mind at least we have something to talk about lol [>_>]... my 2c: i don't think my a4 will ever be able to compete with that golf R... on stock turbo, stage 1, apr got their golf R to hit a 4.1s 0-60...
i can't even imagine what that thing can do on a drag strip now that its got an upgraded turbo (regardless of the upgrade lol) and i'm assuming the motor is fully built... plus it weighs ~500lbs less, and the new haldex can push 100% of the power to the rear wheels (which i can only assume is what gives it that astonishing 0-60 time). however i can't possibly give up torsen ha

seal66
06-25-2012, 06:58 PM
this thread is like being in a locker full of teenage girls on their periods lol!

DRAKLORE
06-25-2012, 07:01 PM
^drumnjuny your right it is an amazing car, and TBH it probably had the boost turned down as to not jeopardize it over shenanigans lol

Skip to 2:40 for a better comparison (you were right Arjun that video really didn't show much)
Although this one has like 5minutes of BT fail :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV07o86Zb9o&feature=youtube_gdata_player

If you just stop watching after my charge pipe blows off it's not a bad video lol

ericpaulyoung
06-25-2012, 07:03 PM
All I can say is a BFGoorich sponsored car fully built from the ground up with a 500 whp target, and a car that weighs a lot less... hmm, I am sure you can give it a run for the money no problem. If you were really trying, he probably wouldn't be able to even read your tail lights you would be so far ahead.

OK, I just kid. It would be closer than that.

seal66
06-25-2012, 07:08 PM
Big fail after IC piping failure lol

ericpaulyoung
06-25-2012, 07:10 PM
^drumnjuny your right it is an amazing car, and TBH it probably had the boost turned down as to not jeopardize it over shenanigans lol

Skip to 2:40 for a better comparison (you were right Arjun that video really didn't show much)
Although this one has like 5minutes of BT fail :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV07o86Zb9o&feature=youtube_gdata_player

If you just stop watching after my charge pipe blows off it's not a bad video lol


Your turbo whine and blowoff sounds sick in that video. Almost makes me want an atmospheric blowoff on my car! Sweet acceleration spot around 4 minutes that shows you picking up real good to.

I need to go get a go-pro just so you can laugh at how much slower my car is! :(

- Eric

DRAKLORE
06-25-2012, 07:14 PM
Big fail after IC piping failure lol

Exactly why I didnt want to post that part lmao
No need to fuel EPYs fire on how unreliable BT cars are haha
and Eric I never said I was faster either, but I was able to keep up in the few times we got on it at similar times...
You think they would want to show their best... So who knows? You keep acting like it was some F&F shit when really it was a chill mountain cruise where I was able to go back and forth with the same MaxR you claimed to be this groundbreaking car that made 400-500whp...
All I said was I could keep up with relatively no issue (not counting a faulty intercooler coupler lmao)

DRAKLORE
06-25-2012, 07:15 PM
Your turbo whine and blowoff sounds sick in that video. Almost makes me want an atmospheric blowoff on my car! Sweet acceleration spot around 4 minutes that shows you picking up real good to.

I need to go get a go-pro just so you can laugh at how much slower my car is! :(

- Eric

Just make sure those couplers are tight lol

seal66
06-25-2012, 07:19 PM
I love watching you two go at it lol. It really is like watching boys saying their father can beat up your father lol!! Love this shit.

when you two gonna bring your cars out to colorado?

DRAKLORE
06-25-2012, 07:22 PM
I'll put CO in as my base of preference[up]

ericpaulyoung
06-25-2012, 07:25 PM
I love watching you two go at it lol. It really is like watching boys saying their father can beat up your father lol!! Love this shit.

when you two gonna bring your cars out to colorado?

I could totally go for a beer drinking trip to CO! Haven't been out since a knee surgery trip to Vail about 18 years ago; that place is pretty nice. I will get the first round.
- Eric

seal66
06-25-2012, 07:28 PM
Shit if you two come out the first rounds on me after we take several brewery tours!

drumnjuny
06-26-2012, 08:31 AM
and the second round's on me! [up] after more brewery tours with free dank beer haha

the car is being tuned... and RAI hooked up the lpfp so we are in business... i'm getting ridiculously anxious to drive this thing!

ericpaulyoung
06-26-2012, 08:59 AM
and the second round's on me! [up] after more brewery tours with free dank beer haha

the car is being tuned... and RAI hooked up the lpfp so we are in business... i'm getting ridiculously anxious to drive this thing!

Is it sad that several of us are living vicariously through you?

Are you making any LPFP modifications (044, controller mod, etc.)? Or are you running the stock LPFP?

-Eric

drumnjuny
06-26-2012, 09:05 AM
Is it sad that several of us are living vicariously through you?

Are you making any LPFP modifications (044, controller mod, etc.)? Or are you running the stock LPFP?

-Eric

right now it is wired up to the BM+ with a 40A wire but the plan is to use the stock control of the LPFP until we max it out, then possibly (most likely) move to the BM+ to control it with the stronger wiring.

edit: and no haha not weird i've been living vicariously through vr6 and 1.8t gti/gli/r32 bt builds since i was like 14... then graduated to the audi bt builds... now its finally my turn! [>_<]

Sales@RAI
06-26-2012, 09:12 AM
currently at 22psi..... [:)]

drumnjuny
06-26-2012, 09:15 AM
currently at 22psi..... [:)]

oh how you tease me!! [:p] i really wish i lived close enough to just pop over whenever lol

ericpaulyoung
06-26-2012, 09:20 AM
currently at 22psi..... [:)]

Can you setup a live cam that we can all stream the process over the internet, kinda like Sunday night football?

drumnjuny
06-26-2012, 09:23 AM
Can you setup a live cam that we can all stream the process over the internet, kinda like Sunday night football?

not sure that's the best use of their time [;)] haha, but at the same time that's not a bad idea!! All shops could setup a webcam for like premiere customers so they could watch their builds oooo sounds fancy already. would be a cool selling point / usefulgimmick haha

ericpaulyoung
06-26-2012, 09:45 AM
ONLY 22psi already, hehe, so jealous of where this build is going.

I am betting it is running on a solid 24 psi by the end of today.

RAI, give us blow by blow dyno charts as you get this baby tuned so we can see it happen like a live birth!!! ;-)

Sales@RAI
06-26-2012, 09:47 AM
If everything goes smoothly we're hoping 30+ by the end of the day.

ericpaulyoung
06-26-2012, 09:57 AM
If everything goes smoothly we're hoping 30+ by the end of the day.

I am already starting to hate myself for not going with the gtx! Of course I don't have the supporting engine mods to handle the power, so it would have been a flash in the pan of excitement as my car grenades in the middle of the freeway with the GTX pushing 30 psi of love through my stock internals!!!

Can we at least get an end of the day dyno to hold us over ?
- Eric

DRAKLORE
06-26-2012, 10:19 AM
I can't wait, how aggressive meth are you guys running to achieve 30+ psi with safe tuning? I have a feeling 28psi is about the maximum safety threshold for this turbo and the current fueling that doesn't involve multiport injection...

Very excited[up]

ericpaulyoung
06-26-2012, 10:27 AM
It gonna be a BEAST!

monso1jm
06-26-2012, 10:42 AM
I hope the build is going as planned and it's a beast for ya Arjune! Looks sick

Sales@RAI
06-26-2012, 10:44 AM
I can't wait, how aggressive meth are you guys running to achieve 30+ psi with safe tuning? I have a feeling 28psi is about the maximum safety threshold for this turbo and the current fueling that doesn't involve multiport injection...

Very excited[up]

There are a couple 2.0T Mk5 GTIs running around in Hagerstown, MD with 560fwhp running RS4 injectors and meth.... they both run 30+psi out of their Comp Turbo CT45858s..... which are much larger than this 2867. So it's possible.

Also, Arjun is running a .86 A/R turbine housing, so it'll flow up top. He isn't restricted by a .64 A/R turbine housing.

You can't listen to everything that you read on the internet that is posted by keyboard tuners [;)]

CorneliusRox
06-26-2012, 12:04 PM
There are a couple 2.0T Mk5 GTIs running around in Hagerstown, MD with 560fwhp running RS4 injectors and meth.... they both run 30+psi out of their Comp Turbo CT45858s..... which are much larger than this 2867. So it's possible.

Also, Arjun is running a .86 A/R turbine housing, so it'll flow up top. He isn't restricted by a .64 A/R turbine housing.

You can't listen to everything that you read on the internet that is posted by keyboard tuners [;)]

My K03 is getting close to 400 awhp.

Sales@RAI
06-26-2012, 12:04 PM
well....... we are rather surprised..... 315awhp @ 22psi.... in simulation mode. which reads LOW

Sales@RAI
06-26-2012, 12:06 PM
My K03 is getting close to 400 awhp.

why does the URL say that your dyno graph is from a 2011 Mustang? lol

http://www.dragtimes.com/images_dyno/22169-2011-Ford-Mustang-Dyno.jpg

Firefox250
06-26-2012, 12:15 PM
^^ Dead link

Sales@RAI
06-26-2012, 12:17 PM
^^ Dead link

because I made the font colored and bold. lol

http://www.dragtimes.com/images_dyno/22169-2011-Ford-Mustang-Dyno.jpg

Firefox250
06-26-2012, 12:27 PM
Wow! Awesome job RAI! How much more tunning is needed?

drumnjuny
06-26-2012, 12:28 PM
haha Dan is pointing out that the dyno listed in Cornelius' signature has "ford-mustang-dyno" as the URL because he has a dyno that's not for his a4 as a joke [up] hahaha but i never noticed the URL! good find dan!

audi8844
06-26-2012, 12:40 PM
315awhp is no slouch, and still 8psi+ to go! Can't wait to see final dyno!!

DRAKLORE
06-26-2012, 12:55 PM
There are a couple 2.0T Mk5 GTIs running around in Hagerstown, MD with 560fwhp running RS4 injectors and meth.... they both run 30+psi out of their Comp Turbo CT45858s..... which are much larger than this 2867. So it's possible.

Also, Arjun is running a .86 A/R turbine housing, so it'll flow up top. He isn't restricted by a .64 A/R turbine housing.

You can't listen to everything that you read on the internet that is posted by keyboard tuners [;)]


LMAO I totally agree with you!!! i will now stop listening to john@hpfpupgrade!!![:p]

jimrobbington
06-26-2012, 01:16 PM
I am already starting to hate myself for not going with the gtx!
- Eric

It's not like we didn't try to talk you out of the k04.....

DRAKLORE
06-26-2012, 01:26 PM
^ Lol

In all seriousness this is going to be a pretty epic build, perhaps a GTX3071/76 is in store for me Afterall :)

Sales@RAI
06-26-2012, 01:29 PM
this car is rather impressive.

CorneliusRox
06-26-2012, 01:32 PM
why does the URL say that your dyno graph is from a 2011 Mustang? lol

http://www.dragtimes.com/images_dyno/22169-2011-Ford-Mustang-Dyno.jpg

Boss 302 swam man! running a K03 on top [:p] ha ha I love the slue of PM's I get over that.


It's not like we didn't try to talk you out of the k04.....

^^lol at least he's a good sport about it.

DRAKLORE
06-26-2012, 01:53 PM
Woohoo just made 380whp!

Sales@RAI
06-26-2012, 01:54 PM
going smoothly at 26psi

seal66
06-26-2012, 02:04 PM
This is like a fat kid waiting on another slice of cake! Can't leave me drooling and hungry for more!

drumnjuny
06-26-2012, 02:06 PM
haha tell me about it!! but i just found a dyno video on RAI's facebook page.................... that'll hold me over for a little for sure haha!

Sales@RAI
06-26-2012, 02:07 PM
haha tell me about it!! but i just found a dyno video on RAI's facebook page.................... that'll hold me over for a little for sure haha!

haha yeah, that was when I was dialing in boost with the Boost Manager Plus. Ray took the video with his phone lol

drumnjuny
06-26-2012, 02:09 PM
haha yeah, that was when I was dialing in boost with the Boost Manager Plus. Ray took the video with his phone lol

ahhhh i am so anxious haha i am going to go have a few drinks and celebrate how awesome you guys are!

CorneliusRox
06-26-2012, 02:13 PM
Woohoo just made 380whp!

[:)][up]

Sales@RAI
06-26-2012, 03:06 PM
354awhp @ 26psi .... getting there.

This is seriously awesome, especially because our dyno is known as a heartbreaker.

ericpaulyoung
06-26-2012, 03:20 PM
354awhp @ 26psi .... getting there.

This is seriously awesome, especially because our dyno is known as a heartbreaker.

DUUUUUDE !!

Show the link to the video (and any new ones). !
- Eric

ericpaulyoung
06-26-2012, 03:25 PM
Woohoo just made 380whp!

Are you at a dyno too?
- Eric

jimrobbington
06-26-2012, 03:29 PM
Wow, that's fucking amazing! Really impressive! Arjun, I hate you. I would be really interested in you dynoing (?) again in Denver to see what the elevation loss is and compare corrections. Plus, I need a fucking ride!

Firefox250
06-26-2012, 03:38 PM
Where did 380Hp come from?

ericpaulyoung
06-26-2012, 03:39 PM
Where is that damn video? I can't find it on youtrube

ericpaulyoung
06-26-2012, 03:40 PM
Where did 380Hp come from?

I think Shane is just predicting what RAI will have Arjun's car making!! ;)

- Eric

Dan[FN]6262
06-26-2012, 04:08 PM
354awhp on that dyno is seriously legit!

on straight 93 pump (no meth) my car did 415awhp @29psi, with a ginormous turbo, not a dinky little 28 series.

Arjun, you have a PM.

drumnjuny
06-26-2012, 04:29 PM
354awhp @ 26psi .... getting there.

This is seriously awesome, especially because our dyno is known as a heartbreaker.

FUCK YES!!! I was managing my expectations, that the car might not make it to 350 haha. i can't believe we already passed it haha and still have more room to go1 and noooo i missed your call but since it was like 5 minutes after this i'll assume it was about this haha. call me in the AM when u guys get in!


Where did 380Hp come from?

he was fake reporting for RAI :P a prediction, if you will...


Where is that damn video? I can't find it on youtrube

its not on youtube; on facebook. here's a link to RAI's facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pages/RAI-Motorsport/109672955741038), and here's a link to the video:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4298018012480

drumnjuny
06-26-2012, 04:32 PM
6262;7722246']354awhp on that dyno is seriously legit!

on straight 93 pump (no meth) my car did 404awhp @33psi, with a ginormous turbo, not a dinky little 28 series.

Arjun, you have a PM.

you sir now have a pm [up] thanks!!

ericpaulyoung
06-26-2012, 04:36 PM
its not on youtube; on facebook. here's a link to RAI's facebook (https://www.facebook.com/pages/RAI-Motorsport/109672955741038), and here's a link to the video:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4298018012480

oooooh, ya!

mec
06-26-2012, 04:47 PM
Moar boost! What were you originally planning on running? 354 with 26psi sounds like a good deal to me but you still have some more room to squeeze o that gtx. Congrats dude!

jimrobbington
06-26-2012, 05:19 PM
Is it easy with maestro to switch files? Make that your "normal" tune, then push it as far as it goes for your "advanced" tune!

DRAKLORE
06-26-2012, 06:03 PM
I think the next step is wiring the LPFP controller, this has seriously exceeded my expectations.

I didn't think the 28 would be that serious at 26psi... If they can get the fueling from the controller to support 30psi I can see 400whp... Which I'm not sure how aggresive this file or meth is.. Assuming 26psi was all the stock LPFP could handle.

And I'm not trying to start a war... But it is funny to me how a certain someone with a "legit FSI tuner" such as vizi, can only make 373 with multi port methanol injection, and a 3076 plus aftermarket LPFP... And now we have a 28 eeking up on his numbers.. About to surpass..

The GTX28 isn't a magical turbo, but obviously in the right hands it can do magical things

audi8844
06-26-2012, 06:28 PM
Congrats Arjun! This just reassures me that this is exactly what I want to do in the near future!

ericpaulyoung
06-26-2012, 06:36 PM
End of the day dyno ???

Knock, knock, RAI give the crowd what we so desperately need!

- Eric

DRAKLORE
06-26-2012, 07:10 PM
What you want them to work past 6?
Thy hit 354whp, I'm sure they will pick back up tomorrow

ericpaulyoung
06-26-2012, 08:27 PM
What you want them to work past 6?
Thy hit 354whp, I'm sure they will pick back up tomorrow

Hell ya, I want them to pull an all nighter and post 400 at the ring of midnight ;)

- Eric

Operator
06-26-2012, 08:39 PM
Juny, good stuff man. You'll love your car even more once you take it to HPR!!!!! The posers in Boulder need to be put on notice, as I venture, you'll be breaking a few hearts [;)]


And I'm not trying to start a war... But it is funny to me how a certain someone with a "legit FSI tuner" such as vizi, can only make 373 with multi port methanol injection, and a 3076 plus aftermarket LPFP... And now we have a 28 eeking up on his numbers.. About to surpass..

The GTX28 isn't a magical turbo, but obviously in the right hands it can do magical things


Yes you are..... And you're acting like Viz is done. Just leave things alone man. It gets old!

yungcotter
06-26-2012, 08:50 PM
Juny, good stuff man. You'll love your car even more once you take it to HPR!!!!! The posers in Boulder need to be put on notice, as I venture, you'll be breaking a few hearts [;)]




Yes you are..... And you're acting like Viz is done. Just leave things alone man. It gets old!

Glad im not the only one who sees/feel like that some times.

DRAKLORE
06-26-2012, 09:11 PM
Defend someone else once in awhile... It's getting old

Jeff made comments in my thread taking a jab at my build 0900 yesterday...
I didn't say anything until 12 hours later.. And that's not to mention the countless times him & his tuner have been all up in my thread talking down about it. And I've said NOTHING...

But I see that just because I am more straightforward with my comments to Jeff you act like its all me, check around and look at the few times I make comments is maybe a few hours or a day after he posts a jab on my thread ect.
So we're not aloud to have competitions and go at it competitively every once in awhile? Are you Jeff's protector? If he can't handle the jest, and he thinks it's harrassment I'll stop, but go look in the comments he made in my thread and tell me we can't have friendly or competive fun!?
Pretty sure you didn't jump on him for his comments? But I'll tell you the both of you are getting "old"... Get a new campaign, pretty sure I've moved on to new ways of making jabs/fun at Jeff. If you didn't take such an mother audizine approach maybe you could join in on the fun too?!

What I can't point out that a GTX28 is about to surpass a GT3076? You guy were all over that shit last month?! I just found it funny how no one brought it up, and all this time you've let Vizi shit all over vast and my build because they couldn't get him the power he wanted and keep it safe... And look what a fucking 28 is making... You fill in the gaps.. But next time he shits on my build, and David you don't jump on him for it... Yeah i pretty much see right through you. I don't get it, but I caught on

Basically what I'm trying to convey, get off my dick

Operator
06-26-2012, 11:10 PM
What I'm saying is take the bs out of Arjun's thread................ Sorry, Juny this took place in your thread. Soooo much awesomeness going on here, only to have a member that loves drama try and move the conversation to something else.

drumnjuny
06-26-2012, 11:26 PM
Moar boost! What were you originally planning on running? 354 with 26psi sounds like a good deal to me but you still have some more room to squeeze o that gtx. Congrats dude!

thanks! the plan is just to push it until something drops off [up]


Is it easy with maestro to switch files? Make that your "normal" tune, then push it as far as it goes for your "advanced" tune!

that's the plan in the long term... with a valet mode as well haha i'm sure you remember the first time we met? never again... lol. but for now switching is a pain in the ass. they are making a on-the-fly switcher that i plan to implement with different meth and boost maps in the long run (whenever it comes out lol) [up]


I think the next step is wiring the LPFP controller, this has seriously exceeded my expectations.

I didn't think the 28 would be that serious at 26psi... If they can get the fueling from the controller to support 30psi I can see 400whp... Which I'm not sure how aggresive this file or meth is.. Assuming 26psi was all the stock LPFP could handle

lpfp is wired and being controlled by the BMP! i'm sooo pumped for tomorrow haha; that's when we're gonna find out where it maxes out


Juny, good stuff man. You'll love your car even more once you take it to HPR!!!!! The posers in Boulder need to be put on notice, as I venture, you'll be breaking a few hearts [;)]

thanks dave!! i'm definitely planning on taking it to HPR as soon as possible, but i've also promised myself to keep the heartbreaking on public roads to a bare minimum hehe .... the next cruise should be fun though!!


Defend someone else once in awhile... It's getting old

Jeff made comments in my thread taking a jab at my build 0900 yesterday...
I didn't say anything until 12 hours later.. And that's not to mention the countless times him & his tuner have been all up in my thread talking down about it. And I've said NOTHING...

But I see that just because I am more straightforward with my comments to Jeff you act like its all me, check around and look at the few times I make comments is maybe a few hours or a day after he posts a jab on my thread ect.
So we're not aloud to have competitions and go at it competitively every once in awhile? Are you Jeff's protector? If he can't handle the jest, and he thinks it's harrassment I'll stop, but go look in the comments he made in my thread and tell me we can't have friendly or competive fun!?
Pretty sure you didn't jump on him for his comments? But I'll tell you the both of you are getting "old"... Get a new campaign, pretty sure I've moved on to new ways of making jabs/fun at Jeff. If you didn't take such an mother audizine approach maybe you could join in on the fun too?!

What I can't point out that a GTX28 is about to surpass a GT3076? You guy were all over that shit last month?! I just found it funny how no one brought it up, and all this time you've let Vizi shit all over vast and my build because they couldn't get him the power he wanted and keep it safe... And look what a fucking 28 is making... You fill in the gaps.. But next time he shits on my build, and David you don't jump on him for it... Yeah i pretty much see right through you. I don't get it, but I caught on

Basically what I'm trying to convey, get off my dick

shane, i think you're taking this a little too seriously :) that being said i have checked all day waiting for a prickly response in your build thread to vizi's comment, and was impressed that you didn't go there. tbh for a while i thought u just hadn't noticed haha!

and i think everyone else is taking shane's comment too seriously :) nothing wrong with a little comparison and i wouldn't say i've surpassed the 3076 build yet so nothing to really say yet haha!

shane if it makes u feel better, earlier today someone talked down to me about your build and i backed u up like crazy... said the exact same thing Dave said a few posts above this one: your car isn't finished yet. neither is vizi's [:p] so once we're done we can all compare but until then, everyone is in the works ya know. i'm still in the works too... not to mention you guys have/will have big power fueling solutions so i don't think there's any doubt in anyone's mind that you guys will make higher numbers than i will once your cars are finished...


What I'm saying is take the bs out of Arjun's thread................ Sorry, Juny this took place in your thread. Soooo much awesomeness going on here, only to have a member that loves drama try and move the conversation to something else.

i appreciate it dave, and i don't really mind comparing my car to others in this thread as long as my car is one of the two being compared [:p] and this is an internet forum after all so the drama shall persist hahaha, shit i feel like my parents are fighting and i agree with points both have made lol... can't we all just get along?

drumnjuny
06-26-2012, 11:51 PM
not to go all taffy rainbows and sherbet sunsets on everyone, but i really hope we can just take it down a notch in general on the negativity [up]

i went to the sickest bar today (sickest one i've been to in the dc area, not counting boulder/denver of course)... its called top golf, idk if anyone in the area has been to it but basically its a driving range with targets and points and also decent food and drinks!! i definitely got a little sloshed haha and hit some balls, gotta love the 2nd floor of a driving range lol!

how do you guys like the new signature? also is it bad that i am already planning the next things i want to do to the car haha? bbk, 4:1 diff, adj control arms... but before all of that i will need to get my ass to HPR lol!!

jimrobbington
06-27-2012, 05:59 AM
Alright, RAI, what do we have in store for today!? Honestly, I am very impressed by the speed/quality of this build. Big props to RAI!

DRAKLORE
06-27-2012, 06:44 AM
not to go all taffy rainbows and sherbet sunsets on everyone, but i really hope we can just take it down a notch in general on the negativity [up]

i went to the sickest bar today (sickest one i've been to in the dc area, not counting boulder/denver of course)... its called top golf, idk if anyone in the area has been to it but basically its a driving range with targets and points and also decent food and drinks!! i definitely got a little sloshed haha and hit some balls, gotta love the 2nd floor of a driving range lol!

how do you guys like the new signature? also is it bad that i am already planning the next things i want to do to the car haha? bbk, 4:1 diff, adj control arms... but before all of that i will need to get my ass to HPR lol!!

haha word man, yeah i could hear your adrenaline over the phone lol
bassically the BMP has two modes, one where it bypasses the controller and lets the OEM ecu control the lpfp, the other uses the BMP map. either way it is alway getting the "suggestion" or reccomended signals from the OEM controller, so the fuel pump prime on door open ect are all still there.

i have high hopes at this point for your build, i know the motor can handle it. and really 26psi isnt even in the peak optimum operating range for the GTX series turbo... i mean i guess im trying to say at this point its practically just a GT28 with slightly better trims, it will shine at 30+ psi over a GT28.

and yeah I sat down, listened to Lindsey Stirling and chilled out. what i said was a bit more harsh. I know at this point a dyno and HP numbers makes a build, someday ill get to that point. until then, i will continue to read and be jelly about this one :)
thanks for being my whiteknight haha [up]

jimrobbington
06-27-2012, 06:48 AM
Shane, Juny is a brown knight, and don't you be forgetting it!

DRAKLORE
06-27-2012, 06:58 AM
haha i will never forget lmao

fordyoz
06-27-2012, 07:18 AM
really great stuff in here arjun. looks like positives all around for you and RAI (and the b7 platform ofcourse). congrats! looks like its going to be a BLAST to drive around. ive been following this on the RAI facebook page as well.

drumnjuny
06-27-2012, 07:25 AM
haha word man, yeah i could hear your adrenaline over the phone lol
bassically the BMP has two modes, one where it bypasses the controller and lets the OEM ecu control the lpfp, the other uses the BMP map. either way it is alway getting the "suggestion" or reccomended signals from the OEM controller, so the fuel pump prime on door open ect are all still there.

i have high hopes at this point for your build, i know the motor can handle it. and really 26psi isnt even in the peak optimum operating range for the GTX series turbo... i mean i guess im trying to say at this point its practically just a GT28 with slightly better trims, it will shine at 30+ psi over a GT28.

and yeah I sat down, listened to Lindsey Stirling and chilled out. what i said was a bit more harsh. I know at this point a dyno and HP numbers makes a build, someday ill get to that point. until then, i will continue to read and be jelly about this one :)
thanks for being my whiteknight haha [up]

i hope you're right when it comes to boost, that we're gonna turn it up all the way today and really see what's good, but i've been managing my expectations like crazy haha... just got off the phone with Dan and i asked him if the power was pretty much maxed out lol he said definitely no, so i'm pumped for today! i have a feeling we are just going to hit a wall with the lpfp or something, and max out even though the rest of the build could be pushed farther.
but on the docket today is increasing boost & dialing it in, we're gonna try a bigger w/m nozzle, and then a dual nozzle set up and see where it takes us (dan gave me crash course in octane and timing this morning so i don't feel as dumb haha), and i'm heading up there to hopefully grab the car by the end of the day!!

and no problem being anyone's white knight dude, not like i was going for brownie points i wasn't even gonna say it except that it looked like you needed the reminder that your car is among the most badass in the b7 section (doctor definitely has us lol but 1.8t-- such an unfair advantage), the way i see it is i just speak the truth from my perspective [:p] and sometimes people listen/agree. i bet if you forgot about the numbers, and put our three cars on a drag strip (assuming they're all completed), i highly doubt there would be more than a couple car lengths difference after a 1/2 and full mile, and probably neck-neck at a 1/4m assuming all the same conditions (driver, ambient temp, tires, blah) and we'd all get smoked by 1000 wheel supras anyway ;) but for a 2.0T boat4, our cars are all pretty damn quick!


Shane, Juny is a brown knight, and don't you be forgetting it!

hahaha i mayyy have been about to say that i might not be able to live up to the white knight standard [>_<] lol

drumnjuny
06-27-2012, 07:33 AM
really great stuff in here arjun. looks like positives all around for you and RAI (and the b7 platform ofcourse). congrats! looks like its going to be a BLAST to drive around. ive been following this on the RAI facebook page as well.

thanks!! i'm stoked and i know the guys at RAI are too... should be a blast haha to be honest i've driven some fast cars, been in some very fast cars but i'm not sure if i've been in the driver's seat in a car with 350+ wheel lol so probably going to ease into the mashing of the accelerator haha

me too haha i just have this and RAI's fb open, hit refresh every time i see my computer lol. may or may not have this bookmarked on my phone as well for ultimate nerd status [:p] haha

fordyoz
06-27-2012, 07:40 AM
me too haha i just have this and RAI's fb open, hit refresh every time i see my computer lol. may or may not have this bookmarked on my phone as well for ultimate nerd status [:p] haha

no shame in that

drumnjuny
06-27-2012, 07:56 AM
Corey - i got your PM but your inbox is full :( i wrote a whole essay response lmao and then couldn't send it... needless to say i was disappointed haha but i saved it so lemme know when ur inbox is less full haha

ericpaulyoung
06-27-2012, 08:37 AM
Can't wait to see what the day brings! If they hit 400 before lunch time west coast, I will take a half day and get drunk. Then go home, smash my K04 with a mallet, and order the GTX2867R kit :)

- Eric

drumnjuny
06-27-2012, 08:44 AM
Can't wait to see what the day brings! If they hit 400 before lunch time west coast, I will take a half day and get drunk. Then go home, smash my K04 with a mallet, and order the GTX2867R kit :)

- Eric

damn that's quite the endorsement/commitment hahahaha. 400 is a pretty elusive number for the b7... but we'll see what they can do. i wouldn't break out the mallet or anything just yet [:p]

if this thing makes 380 on RAI's dyno i'll be very very impressed... 400 on their dyno would be absolutely unheard of and pure insanity!!

Sales@RAI
06-27-2012, 08:52 AM
400awhp is a tall order lol

ericpaulyoung
06-27-2012, 08:56 AM
damn that's quite the endorsement/commitment hahahaha. 400 is a pretty elusive number for the b7... but we'll see what they can do. i wouldn't break out the mallet or anything just yet [:p]

if this thing makes 380 on RAI's dyno i'll be very very impressed... 400 on their dyno would be absolutely unheard of and pure insanity!!

I already had nightmares of your car destroying cities by setting fire to the pavement and spitting it at the buildings with all four wheels.

I am throwing my hat in the ring with my actual guess being 394 awhp. This is based on an average of 10 whp per extra 1 psi of boost and 354 awhp at 26 psi for a target of 30 psi. So I should be safe from smashing my car by about 6 ponies. The pinch hitter is going to be the meth and timing. With those, you might crest that 400 hill with a 28 series turbo, and AZ will have to shut down for an hour of silence to show respect to the new milestone.

ericpaulyoung
06-27-2012, 08:58 AM
400awhp is a tall order lol

I definitely hear ya there. While we are on the topic, I (we) completely expect (demand) that you have videos of today's dynos!

-Eric

drumnjuny
06-27-2012, 08:59 AM
hahaha wow... we'll see i guess!!

QUATTROA4B7
06-27-2012, 09:09 AM
With those, you might crest that 400 hill with a 28 series turbo, and AZ will have to shut down for an hour of silence to show respect to the new milestone.

LOL!!


Your progress and numbers are looking great, I am pumped for you! GTX series definitely seem like a pretty solid choice. [up]

Don Supreme
06-27-2012, 09:46 AM
I already had nightmares of your car destroying cities by setting fire to the pavement and spitting it at the buildings with all four wheels.

I am throwing my hat in the ring with my actual guess being 394 awhp. This is based on an average of 10 whp per extra 1 psi of boost and 354 awhp at 26 psi for a target of 30 psi. So I should be safe from smashing my car by about 6 ponies. The pinch hitter is going to be the meth and timing. With those, you might crest that 400 hill with a 28 series turbo, and AZ will have to shut down for an hour of silence to show respect to the new milestone.

LOL.. If he comes anywhere near 390awhp on the RAI dyno, then a quick trip over to a DJ should clear the 400AWHP milestone.

My personal experience between the RAI mustang and nearby local DJ was near 30AWHP.