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Mikse
05-31-2011, 12:15 PM
Delays after delays, after change of plans and a few setbacks it´s time to start my TiAL 605 build.

If I sould describe shortly this I would say two words: Snowball effect. The plan was to do a basic Turbo swap with necessary mods but ended up upgrading a few extra parts [wrench].
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Here´s the part list:
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Engine size: 2.7L
Rods: Rosten
Pistons: Stock
Heads: 2.4 (Slightly ported)
Cams: 2.4/ RS4
Valvetrain: Stock
Intake Valves: Stock
Exhaust Valves: Rosten stainless
Head Gaskets: MTM Compression Dropping ~8.8
Intake Manifold: Ported RS4
Intake: X-0.5 fiberglass
Y-Pipe: Stock
Throttle Body: RS4
Pressure pipes: 63,5mm custom
Diverter Valves: Forge
Turbo kit: TiAL S605 /w Divorced exhaust flanges
MAF: EPL GT MAF
Fuel Rails: RS4
Injectors: Bosch ev14 72 lb
Fuel Pump: Bosch 044 In-Tank
Tune: Remotely By EPL
Water/Meth Injection: Aquamist HFS-3
Clutch: Southbends Stage 5 DXD-B
Flywheel: TTV Racing steel ~8kg
Intercooler(s): ERs w/ Modified stock shrouds
Mounts: 034 track density Motor and 034 street Tranny
Exhaust Manifolds: KKD Motorsport carbon steel tubular
Downpipes: 3" custom for DSM Flange
Exhaust: Custom 3,5" with two silencer. 3,5" Apple racing in the middle and Vibrant 3,5" in the back
Coilovers: H&R
Wheels: 17x8 O.Z Ultraleggera
Miscellaneous: VEMS Wideband with EGT, 25 row oil cooler.

Probably forgot something but I´ll update [;)]
..And this is how the journey started..
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5sdwIOS4VcE/TjrPnEUFAaI/AAAAAAAAAc0/qW2w3b-nSOQ/parts%2525202.JPG
All packages loaded ready to go
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-SkHCZOz1ls4/TjrQCvzwpQI/AAAAAAAAAc4/mQAPYKoUR8Q/loaded%2525202.JPG
There´s actually quite a few boxes missing from the pictures.

khj677turbo
05-31-2011, 12:16 PM
Its like in the first fast and the furious when they build the supra, Unreal!

Timtheguru
05-31-2011, 12:21 PM
2.4 heads?

sherbet
05-31-2011, 12:55 PM
2.4 heads?

I think they are from a 2.4 V6 that was Europe Only and I've seen pics of them. The intake and exhaust ports, IIRC are larger than those on the 2.7 heads. I'm not sure if they flow better than 2.8 heads though, (doubtful) but maybe the OP got a deal on them..?

Timtheguru
05-31-2011, 01:08 PM
I think they are from a 2.4 V6 that was Europe Only and I've seen pics of them. The intake and exhaust ports, IIRC are larger than those on the 2.7 heads. I'm not sure if they flow better than 2.8 heads though, (doubtful) but maybe the OP got a deal on them..?

Oh cool I didn't know there was another option. Learned something new today! :D

sherbet
05-31-2011, 01:13 PM
Oh cool I didn't know there was another option. Learned something new today! :D

Yeah, goddamn europeans get all the good stuff :( (although the 2.4 probably wasnt anything special lol)

Timtheguru
05-31-2011, 01:24 PM
Yeah, goddamn europeans get all the good stuff :( (although the 2.4 probably wasnt anything special lol)

Haha, you don't seem to like the 2.4 heads with your parentheses comments! :D

sherbet
05-31-2011, 01:27 PM
Haha, you don't seem to like the 2.4 heads with your parentheses comments! :D

hahaha to be honest I really dont know that much about them, just seen a few pics being compared to 2.7 heads and 2.8 heads and I think they flow better than 2.7's (So I dont really have anything against them) haha

Mikse
05-31-2011, 01:33 PM
Don´t think anyone know the flow difference between 2.4 vs 2.8 but 2.4 are very common here so thats why it was my choise. 2.8 has a littler more aggressive cam profile than 2.4/RS4.
More about the heads here
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/400049-S4-vs-RS4-vs-2.8-vs-2.4-Heads-and-cams...?highlight=comparison.

2.4 "might" have a little bigger intake ports but it depends on what port you are measuring. My head had ~2mm difference between the ports(?!). I´ll post pics later.

wan2play
05-31-2011, 01:36 PM
sexsi build

Mikse
06-01-2011, 05:23 AM
Here´s pics size differences between the ports of the 2.4 intake.
Largest 2.4
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9GxK4DCpAz8/Tjf86G6POlI/AAAAAAAAAR0/MZT2zUKY99Q/2.4%252520intake%252520port%25252C%252520largest.J PG
Smallest 2.4
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-o7tqlAbAvqE/Tjf86k7-8RI/AAAAAAAAAR4/FiA8h9TIrJM/2.4%252520intake%252520port%25252C%252520small%252 520one.JPG


And for a comparison 2.8 head intake port
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-VzUOyUpxFlE/TjrShw_GkwI/AAAAAAAAAdM/HM3RThVaCTo/54.46.jpg

We ended up porting all intake ports and intake manifold ports so they match perfectly.
Ported RS4 intake
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YCeCUnJE9rU/Tjf85bVM6FI/AAAAAAAAARw/eHSFiKIlldM/Ported%252520RS4%252520intake%252520manifold.JPG

Mikse
06-03-2011, 05:32 AM
Couple of pics for you guys to enjoy [:)]
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-As8ApLFZvZ0/TjrUu2_fZpI/AAAAAAAAAds/7uerL2yn6Yk/KKD%252526TiAL%252520605.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9R-himZiIwA/TjrUxj38d-I/AAAAAAAAAdw/TtfeRnUaXP8/TiAL.JPG

judeisnotobscur
06-03-2011, 06:00 AM
Wow! looks like a great build, i'm very jealous.

BlakMarketKlash
06-03-2011, 12:25 PM
This build looks like it's going to be rad ! Are you going to be wiring the VEMS in place of your primary 02's and using as a WB aswell?

Mikse
06-03-2011, 12:47 PM
Primary O2 will be left to their places and VEMS WB will have its own place.

Mikse
06-09-2011, 01:42 PM
2.4 head exhaust side ported
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B6ZqBXkCaxs/Tjf9EeZPnVI/AAAAAAAAASk/Bo-CqDPlMAg/IMG_0921.JPG

KKD exhaust manifold
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YTVXzl_tH1s/Tjf9JPfrOzI/AAAAAAAAAS0/7uKGPHONXzg/IMG_0926.JPG

TiAL´s turbine housing inlet was much larger than K04 so outlet port is now port matched also. This looks like this now.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-O-p-ClEXVpc/Tjf9OdhToAI/AAAAAAAAATY/33e8RYysiA0/IMG_0937.JPG

Next the turbos need a little adjustment and they are going in.

Hyphy
06-09-2011, 01:47 PM
subscribed

Mikse
06-19-2011, 12:30 PM
Turbos installed
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-LAVsSuwCllQ/Tjf9X6-PI9I/AAAAAAAAAUM/8hUyNfDhtXg/DSC05117.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zLagfznW2o8/Tjf9by6HZhI/AAAAAAAAAUk/K9dM_OpgQ6M/DSC05127.JPG

And 034 engine mounts.

Turbo1A4
06-19-2011, 02:21 PM
nice now its time to install and get her running!

Mikse
06-19-2011, 02:48 PM
nice now its time to install and get her running!

A lot of work still need to be done before she´s in running condition but hopefully in a next couple of weeks.
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https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-S8dy6rtPaRk/Tjf9hGRk0eI/AAAAAAAAAU8/26FsN45hl-I/DSC05133.JPG
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And the pressure plate
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https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wa9pQjGVw-E/Tjf9i1DsEDI/AAAAAAAAAVE/G1uZmtk19HI/DSC05135.JPG

S4 00 2.7
06-19-2011, 03:05 PM
Nice! :popcorn:

Mikse
06-20-2011, 09:31 AM
Downpipes are ready and just need some heat wrap. 3" with divorced exhaust flanges and v-banded cats.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-nGqlDdNSeyk/Tjf914LC4HI/AAAAAAAAAWc/KoGb-fm2010/downpipe4.jpg

NOTORIOUS VR
06-20-2011, 09:36 AM
Wait, these are 605's or 770's?

I didn't even know 605s were available with DSM style flanges

Mikse
06-20-2011, 10:15 AM
Wait, these are 605's or 770's?

I didn't even know 605s were available with DSM style flanges
Well now you do [;)] it is an option and thought I'd use it.

NOTORIOUS VR
06-20-2011, 10:32 AM
that's pretty damn awesome IMO... Tial FTW!

Max@034
06-20-2011, 10:40 AM
Excited to see the results! Well rounded build!

My only question; do you feel a single 044 pump in the tank will be sufficient for long pulls?

NOTORIOUS VR
06-20-2011, 10:50 AM
Excited to see the results! Well rounded build!

My only question; do you feel a single 044 pump in the tank will be sufficient for long pulls?

What does the length of the pull have to do with it?

Either it has enough flow or it doesn't. And if you're on sure, or are going to be riding the edge then one pump isn't enough. I think he'll be fine with one 044 pump on 605's for pump has numbers personally.

Max@034
06-20-2011, 10:59 AM
What does the length of the pull have to do with it?

Either it has enough flow or it doesn't. And if you're on sure, or are going to be riding the edge then one pump isn't enough. I think he'll be fine with one 044 pump on 605's for pump has numbers personally.

Length of pull has everything to do with it; the fuel demands of a 6th gear pull is drastically more then a 2nd gear or 3rd gear pull. The devastation of running lean in a 6th gear pull is also much worse then in a lower gear. Typically, we assume that folks in Europe are going to be doing much longer and faster pulls due to the roads and laws compared to here in the USA.

Considering the caliber of the build, such as built heads and RS4 intake componentry and the amount of supporting mods, he's going to be putting down well over 500whp which is nearing the limit of a pump placed 8 feet away from the motor, and running through small stock lines. Pressure isn't the issue here; running 72lb injectors at 8000rpm at 150mph is the issue.

I'm not trying to sell anything here; we and others offer dual surge or single surge options. A single Bosch 044 is indeed enough to flow 605's maxed out; just not from the rear of the car through the stock lines. Just my/our experiences. If the car only sees short bursts of 1 or 2 or 3 gears, no big deal. But a full sustained 6th gear pull for minutes on end... No way. Stick the Bosch 044 right in the engine bay, use -6AN fuel supply lines, and it will flow plenty.

Mikse
06-20-2011, 11:29 AM
Excited to see the results! Well rounded build!

My only question; do you feel a single 044 pump in the tank will be sufficient for long pulls?
I´m kind of hoping it won´t be sufficient [;)] but it depends to what power level you can run single 044 safely? I´ve been told that level is around 540-550whp or ~650chp as people here in europe likes to put it.? Correct if I´m wrong.


On our local airport we have a standing mile -day twice a year and I´m hoping to get the car tuned (at least partly) before next event in the fall so that is the longest pull the 044 will need to handle.

NOTORIOUS VR
06-20-2011, 11:32 AM
Length of pull has everything to do with it; the fuel demands of a 6th gear pull is drastically more then a 2nd gear or 3rd gear pull.

Care to quantify that?

I don't see how xxx load in 4th is any less then xxx load in 6th... the supply is the exact same... the only thing that I can see changes is the legth of time you spend in xxx load... you're in there much longer... but again, either the pump is able to supply or it isn't.

highspeeds4
06-20-2011, 10:40 PM
Care to quantify that?

I don't see how xxx load in 4th is any less then xxx load in 6th... the supply is the exact same... the only thing that I can see changes is the legth of time you spend in xxx load... you're in there much longer... but again, either the pump is able to supply or it isn't.

I would like to know this too.

My guess would be like comparing this to an air compressor that has the capability to support 1000 lb/ft of torque but not for long because the compressor can't keep the pressure up.

Or maybe even trying to blow a golf ball through a water hose.

So unless the fuel lines are the right size, only short bursts are recommended?

NOTORIOUS VR
06-21-2011, 05:07 AM
I would like to know this too.

My guess would be like comparing this to an air compressor that has the capability to support 1000 lb/ft of torque but not for long because the compressor can't keep the pressure up.

Or maybe even trying to blow a golf ball through a water hose.

So unless the fuel lines are the right size, only short bursts are recommended?

The air compressor is a completely different situation. It pre-compresses the air, so obviously you only have so much in reserve...

A fuel pump will either flow @ a rated pressure or it won't. There is no reduction of flow just because you're asking for a certain volume for a longer period of time.

Max@034
06-21-2011, 12:04 PM
Care to quantify that?

I don't see how xxx load in 4th is any less then xxx load in 6th... the supply is the exact same... the only thing that I can see changes is the legth of time you spend in xxx load... you're in there much longer... but again, either the pump is able to supply or it isn't.

You are correct, I am basing this on length of time with the load, and not the actual physical load the motor is seeing; I should have clarified. I just don't like the wording of your statement "either the pump is able to supply or it isn't", because I feel it gives the impression that if you go do a few highway pulls and your car doesn't blow up, that it will always be that way... Even though the air compressor analogy doesn't work (although it does for a surge tank sorta) because fuel pumps don't work that way, in reality I've seen pressure maintained under huge 6th gear pulls, but fuel flow diminish. I know this goes against the physics on paper...

PS. Sorry Mikse; don't mean to crowd your thread...

Mikse
06-21-2011, 12:29 PM
PS. Sorry Mikse; don't mean to crowd your thread...
Not at all. Its nice to have some conversation here. To get back to the adequacy of the 044. What is the max power level you can run safely with a single 044?

NOTORIOUS VR
06-21-2011, 12:42 PM
You are correct, I am basing this on length of time with the load, and not the actual physical load the motor is seeing; I should have clarified. I just don't like the wording of your statement "either the pump is able to supply or it isn't", because I feel it gives the impression that if you go do a few highway pulls and your car doesn't blow up, that it will always be that way... Even though the air compressor analogy doesn't work (although it does for a surge tank sorta) because fuel pumps don't work that way, in reality I've seen pressure maintained under huge 6th gear pulls, but fuel flow diminish. I know this goes against the physics on paper...

PS. Sorry Mikse; don't mean to crowd your thread...

Then I would say what you saw was an issue with supply to the pump... I don't see how that is possible... especially with no pressure drop.

How was the fuel flow you saw diminished measured?

It could have possibly been a situation where the feed hose was actually just too small for the application maybe.

Mikse
08-04-2011, 11:16 AM
Sorry for lack of updates. Here´s a few pics of inlet pipes. Decided to cut them and I´m glad we did. Passenger side cam chain tensioner bolt was broken and was leaking a lot of oil. It was much easier to take the valve cover off and work without the inlet pipe.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pUtMSUUyEKI/Tjf972Vp_OI/AAAAAAAAAW4/09PFi48K-mA/IMG_1012.JPG
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wn4m91173d8/Tjf98m6EV8I/AAAAAAAAAW8/Kj81JEFXJaM/IMG_1013.JPG

And a custom made pressure pipes [up]
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JuQm2N3iPuc/Tjf99qL0P8I/AAAAAAAAAXE/mjnpmglWO2k/IMG_1016.JPG

Max@034
08-04-2011, 03:24 PM
Glad to see progress is continuing!

What diameter did you go for on the bi-pipes?

BlakMarketKlash
08-04-2011, 03:26 PM
Nice. How did the meth install come along?

Mikse
08-05-2011, 02:41 AM
Glad to see progress is continuing!

What diameter did you go for on the bi-pipes?
Pipes are 63,5mm. The RS4 tbb inlet was a little different size but can´t remember at this point what it was but the tbb end of the pressure pipe had to be made from a different size.

Nice. How did the meth install come along?
I think we solved the HFS-3 wiring issue after we got the right wiring diagram from ELSA (bentley manual had a different diagram). Heven´t replied to you yet because I haven´t got a chance to test it. I´m Having other issues with flash loader and immobilizer..[facepalm]

Mikse
08-05-2011, 02:59 AM
Picture where you can see the size difference compared to stock pipe. Original S-bend went bearly onto the new pipe but it propably wouldn´t last very long with the extra stretch.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cvKyrjxAijE/Tjf_GxI4udI/AAAAAAAAAZU/v7TgkDYWwCk/s1024/DSC00421.JPG

I had 63-51mm silicone reducer bends to mate with ERs

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cNrcNk1Osr0/Tju-tS03dZI/AAAAAAAAAeY/X261ShjDLMk/silicone%252520S-bend.JPG

BlakMarketKlash
08-05-2011, 08:37 AM
Do the euro s4's come with immobilizers? Here in N/a i know we dont. What you need is an M-box ECU, and i dont know what year or type of ECU you have. But i would suggest using nefmotos software to update to an M box before the FL program will be compatible. I remember my ECU was a very oddball A box that only saw once before in N/a. Here's the link:

http://www.nefmoto.com/forum/

Nefmoto is on AZ. And im sure Notorious could chime in aswell on this!
Hope that helps

NOTORIOUS VR
08-05-2011, 08:44 AM
^^^ yes everywhere in the world except North America had IMMO :(

Mikse
08-05-2011, 09:59 AM
Do the euro s4's come with immobilizers? Here in N/a i know we dont. What you need is an M-box ECU, and i dont know what year or type of ECU you have. But i would suggest using nefmotos software to update to an M box before the FL program will be compatible. I remember my ECU was a very oddball A box that only saw once before in N/a. Here's the link:

http://www.nefmoto.com/forum/

Nefmoto is on AZ. And im sure Notorious could chime in aswell on this!
Hope that helps

My car is late 2000 AGB with the latest immobilizer version (3) what means I can´t chance my ECU without going to Dealer where they can activate another ecu (btdt). My current ecu is 551D so I guess its a D-box. We tried to flash stock M-box file with no success, if thats what you ment by that I need M-box ECU (and not physical ecu) ?. I´m not sure yet does the immobilizer have anything to do with that that I can´t flash my car?

I´m consulting with EPL about this and what comes to their customer support: Pure Reference level!!

Next step is nefmoto. Don´t know a much about nefariousmotorsports but luckily I have a frind who´s helping me.

Any tips and help are welcome!

edit: To clear the immobilizer issue it was activated for some reason and now I can´t start the car.

NOTORIOUS VR
08-05-2011, 10:09 AM
Realistically the immo shouldn't interfere with the flash since it's on a separate eeprom on the back....

that said, the M box might now with with your ecu because it is a different hardware revision all together...

551D means it's a D box... you might want to look into trying maybe a C box? I think that is still an S4 ECU, could be wrong though.

You're wanting to self tune?

Mikse
08-05-2011, 12:52 PM
Realistically the immo shouldn't interfere with the flash since it's on a separate eeprom on the back....

that said, the M box might now with with your ecu because it is a different hardware revision all together...

551D means it's a D box... you might want to look into trying maybe a C box? I think that is still an S4 ECU, could be wrong though.

You're wanting to self tune?
What were you trying to say about M-box?

C-box has smaller memory and immo2 so don´t believe it would work in my car.

I´m not going to tune the car, EPL is.

I´ve red a few similar flashing problems and please say I´m right: Flashing problems are over when you get the base file in...one way or the other?

BlakMarketKlash
08-05-2011, 04:54 PM
What were you trying to say about M-box?

C-box has smaller memory and immo2 so don´t believe it would work in my car.

I´m not going to tune the car, EPL is.

I´ve red a few similar flashing problems and please say I´m right: Flashing problems are over when you get the base file in...one way or the other?

Yes thats usually true. Im sure EPL is going to try to send you different box re-flashes. Here's the link to Ross-tech for the immobilizer tho

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/audiB5.html

Mikse
08-06-2011, 02:24 AM
I´ll get back to the flashing when I have something new.

In the meanwhile lets focus to happier things. Got a setrab 25 row oil cooler and for some reason my first impression was its freaking huge [o_o] 19 row would´ve been more than enough...
Fitting was Really tight. Hammered the passanger side lug so the hood would fit..

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-xxMFS2eewCQ/Tj0FljZxCNI/AAAAAAAAAe4/pbF8S7_2Sks/s1024/25%252520row%252520setrab.JPG

silentbob
08-06-2011, 01:11 PM
My car is late 2000 AGB with the latest immobilizer version (3) what means I can´t chance my ECU without going to Dealer where they can activate another ecu (btdt). My current ecu is 551D so I guess its a D-box. We tried to flash stock M-box file with no success, if thats what you ment by that I need M-box ECU (and not physical ecu) ?. I´m not sure yet does the immobilizer have anything to do with that that I can´t flash my car?

I´m consulting with EPL about this and what comes to their customer support: Pure Reference level!!

Next step is nefmoto. Don´t know a much about nefariousmotorsports but luckily I have a frind who´s helping me.

Any tips and help are welcome!

edit: To clear the immobilizer issue it was activated for some reason and now I can´t start the car.

You can't flash a ecu with the nefmoto flasher with a file with active IMMO. Either you deactive the IMMO on the EEPROM or you have to flash in boot mode with a Galetto clone for example.

Mikse
08-06-2011, 01:58 PM
You can't flash a ecu with the nefmoto flasher with a file with active IMMO. Either you deactive the IMMO on the EEPROM or you have to flash in boot mode with a Galetto clone for example.

What hardware do I need to try the Galletto and is there any tricks what needs to be done to get it work?

About the IMMO: The car ran fine with the old file and after we wired the K-line to OBD connector (to get ECUx to work) and tried the flash a couple of times then the car just wouldn´t start anymore. Any ideas what caused the IMMO activation???

Mikse
10-05-2011, 08:18 AM
We are back in business!! well partly. I sent the ECU to EPL and 5 day express mail lasted over 3 weeks since they lost the package!! Finally the package was found and EPL got to do their magic. Now the car is running again but I´m having problems with aquamist HFS-3 gauge. It won´t light up! We checked that the gauge is getting current but it just not working.?? The weird part is that the gauge was working OK earlier. So the rehearsals is continuing on that part. I´m very happy that the car is now OK and hopefully we can start tuning it soon after I´ve broken in the clutch.

Mikse
04-15-2012, 03:08 AM
Been a while since last update so I thought I'd give a short briefing what has happened since last fall. A lot has happened but not much progress :)

When I got the car running and drove it back to home two days later I started to have charging issues. The battery couldn't keep the current. While I was looking into that I accidentally left the car on neutral and forgot it when I left home. It slided down to my other car and the front bumper took a small hit on the passenger side corner. I decided to take the car to a dealer to ask about new altenator but during first acceleration the instrument cluster had a late christmas and all warning lights lighted up and the voltage gauge jumped up to 16V... Got the car towed to a friends "garage" for an altenator change.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-07LAa5uAj4Q/T4qVpUZz90I/AAAAAAAAAvk/8rioGQgWkzA/s1152/IMAG0244.jpg

After that I took the car to a friend paint shop to fix the front bumper but the outcome was that the car was over painted with OEM achat gray with matte finish.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/--oG4BE822_E/TsaYgyxkfgI/AAAAAAAAAhY/pf_RQn4v2gw/s1024/DSC00657.JPG

Old 17" Ultraleggeras has been sold and new wheels are coming for this summer..

Now it was finally time to take the car on the road to take logs. After the first two pulls my 3rd hear started to make loud while.. I've had 3rd and 5th gear making noise for a few years and last winter when we had -25C degrees my 2nd gear made horrible noise under mild acceleration so it was time to buy a new gearbox..[:(] Found 44tml old gearbox from -04 A6 and it was changed. So far don't have noises from it...

The Aquamist HFS-3 was a real PITA from day one. It didn't help that bentley manual had wrong wiring diagram. ELSA had the corrent one but the system still wasn't working as it should. I had help from BlakMarketKlash (<- thanks) with the wiring and everything seem to be OK but the gauge didn't light up when the ingition was turned on.
Big thaks to Dave@EPL for helping me with this and he confirmed what I suspected. Euro cars have different wiring compared to US S4s. Dave told me that US -03 2,7tt cars the coil didn't get 12V until the car was running and thats why I my gauge didn't light up before it was running. Next issue was the system was spraying at all until I adjusted the threshold to 9 o'clock. This made the system activate but it was hitting failsafe. Now the threshold is adjusted to 11 o'clock and the system is working as it should.

Tuning is still in very early stage. Basically I'm running base map with 10% WGDC but its running guite strong already. Here's logs from last pull. The car is running 25.5psi (to be exact [:)]). AFR's is still on the rich side ~11,5-11.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Qn2mT2h9AmM/T4RolsyduzI/AAAAAAAAAtA/0XKfL0HrpJs/s653/image001.gif
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Audi_S4
04-15-2012, 02:55 PM
2.9 FATS aint bad :-)

Tell me about the different wiring, my buddie Mark spent hours trying to find out what the hell all the different colors where on my coilpacks etc...

So I'll prob have a problem with my innovate wideband too cause I have to attach it to the 12v to light with ignition ?

Good luck with your project !

Cadiburns
04-16-2012, 09:07 AM
What do you have the "gain" set to on the Aquamist?

Mikse
04-16-2012, 09:49 AM
"Gain" is set to default. Haven't had the time/energy/need to adjust it.. yet

Max@034
04-16-2012, 10:13 AM
Nice Mikse. Looking good; that is a strong acceleration graph. Excited to see what happens as the tune gets dialed!

Mikse
04-19-2012, 10:37 AM
While waiting 4bar MAP sensor for VEMS I put new wheels on. Rota Grid 18x8,5" ET30. Sorry for the bad picture quality.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wMqAHVopMRg/T5BKWse4kII/AAAAAAAAAv4/QHIHX-VSzrM/s1024/Rota%2520Grid%25203.jpg

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Cadiburns
04-19-2012, 11:27 AM
Color looks great and dig the wheels. Are they 5x114.3? Running wobble bolts?

Mikse
04-19-2012, 12:05 PM
Yes they are 114.3 with wobble bolts. It just wasn't that "bolt-on" with wobbles as people usually say here. I was aware that the bolt holes needed to be drilled to 15->16mm but what I've never heard anyone saying you need the "narrow style" wobble bolt. All wobble bolts I could find had 28mm wide wobble section and they are so wide that you they don't fit inside the wheel.
Here's pic of narrow and wide wobble bolt:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aYHaVcOEBow/T2oZmo9cCiI/AAAAAAAAApw/iWvJYPji9wc/s1024/wobble%252028mm.JPG

And as I couldn't find correct bolts anywhere I had to machine the bolts narrower like this.

http://gallery.myff.org/gallery/1276204/ggggg+027.jpg