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Operator
05-16-2011, 01:10 PM
Finally got all my spring/summer goodies installed. I'm sure there are a few things people won't agree with, but, isn't that what modding is about, being different......

Quick history:

Stock:

http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/5528/1013024.jpg

The start of my exterior mods:

Winter mode:
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/8844/imagedek.jpg

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/4364/imgp2987.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1152/imgp2965i.jpg


My Spring/Summer collection begins.
ABT Drilled/Slotted Rotores with EBC Redstuff pads
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/8809/imagepim.jpg

For the summer, I sold my old 18" Ultra Sport set-up

Moved on to 235/35 fronts and 275/30 rears

235/35-19's
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/7753/imgp3651.jpg

275/30-19's
http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/9454/imgp3654i.jpg

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/9715/imgp3655x.jpg

Wrapping around
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/9701/imgp3657.jpg

19x8.5's and 19x9.5's I love the concave look for the rears, and the fronts are better, than I thought!
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4228/imgp3659x.jpg

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9607/imgp3662i.jpg

Gotta beat the summer heat. Treadstone TR6 FMIC
http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/1133/1003578z.jpg

Once again, battling the summer heat, and looking to finally use my 100oct tune!
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7139/photovbv.jpg

Coolingmist Water/Meth behind sub enclosure
http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/525/imgp3184.jpg

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/1294/imgp3769t.jpg

Went with a RS style grill, forgot to put the rings on before I put the bumper back on...... But they will make a return! Also added ECS clear sides, a custom CAI, Cupra Lip, Xenarc CBI's, STi clear lens, 5000k fogs.


Best D1s bulbs around in my opinion!!!!! Love the output, and they are still breaking in!!!!!
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/532/img0572y.jpg


http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2227/imgp3712q.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3636/imgp3713s.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/2125/1003577v.jpg


http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/8779/imgp3719.jpg

http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/9496/imgp3724.jpg

http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/2856/imgp3727p.jpg

http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/9276/imgp3732a.jpg

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7161/imgp3737m.jpg

http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/9398/imgp3766y.jpg

viperdsa
05-16-2011, 01:16 PM
Looks good, wish I could have made it to the GTG to see it in person.

fly300kts
05-16-2011, 01:18 PM
Simple definition of nicely modded and clean !!!!
Great job

Phil

beantown
05-16-2011, 01:34 PM
Simple definition of nicely modded and clean !!!!
Great job

Phil

Would you say the same thing if you took away your leds and the picture with the F-15?

Lol, just kidding.

OP - Car is very tastefully done, looks great! [up]

thenofjboy
05-16-2011, 02:08 PM
looking good, nice & clean!

whats the FMIC rated too btw?

rkesh88
05-16-2011, 02:09 PM
Car and wheels look great! Like that corrado in the last pic

nnnick
05-16-2011, 02:11 PM
Nicely done! Love the mods.

Mister W
05-16-2011, 02:14 PM
Look's good, i like your cai.
...and the F15.

A 4 Awesome
05-16-2011, 02:18 PM
Looks good. Nice choice of mods.

Operator
05-16-2011, 02:27 PM
Thanks for all the feedback!!!



looking good, nice & clean!

whats the FMIC rated too btw?

400hp, a number, I doubt I'll ever approach

Elliott
05-16-2011, 02:28 PM
Saw this thing not too long ago in the Creek. I have no idea how you keep a Colorado car so clean. Its... beautiful.

your daddy
05-16-2011, 02:43 PM
corrado!

Stewy
05-16-2011, 03:02 PM
Nice man. I really like the stance and the wheels. The only thing I don't like is the adsence of the rings upfront.

elwigglero
05-16-2011, 03:07 PM
Engine bay really looks opened up without the oem airbox. Good lookin car.

Leo14
05-16-2011, 03:12 PM
Nice! The love the wheels, and clean engine bay [up]

rnp614
05-16-2011, 03:42 PM
Wheel/tire details? Also, are you running any spacers? (especially fronts since I'm a quattro guy and cant go staggered)

mauismile
05-16-2011, 03:59 PM
Very Nice!! Clean!!

vdubjetta02
05-16-2011, 04:13 PM
275's..... your killing it (in a good way)

changed a lot since I met you at the GTG this winter

JEENYUS
05-16-2011, 04:48 PM
keep the rings off, remove the FLY's LED set-up, black out the chrome shit as well. it will pull the whole theme together. love the wheels.

jimrobbington
05-16-2011, 04:54 PM
It does look good, man. Good to see you again at the GTG yesterday. I too can not believe how clean it was.

Operator
05-16-2011, 05:01 PM
Wheel/tire details? Also, are you running any spacers? (especially fronts since I'm a quattro guy and cant go staggered)

Why not, I have a Quattro?!? Just make sure the rolling diameter is within 3% difference. I'm currently at .08% difference. Wheel/tire specs 19x8.5 32mm 66.6 bore 235/35 fronts and 19x9.5 35mm 66.6 bore 275/30 rears.



Nice man. I really like the stance and the wheels. The only thing I don't like is the adsence of the rings upfront.

Yeh, I just forgot to mount them before I put the bumper back on. But they'll be on once I get the chance, I had to jump through hoops to get a holder, so I'll for sure mount them!!!




275's..... your killing it (in a good way)

changed a lot since I met you at the GTG this winter

I rubbed a slight bit with my 3 kids in the back, but other than that pretty smooth sailing. Though I FEARED for my wheels life drive down to Dever this past weekend. Those roads are horriaweful!!!!!!!

6speed4u
05-16-2011, 05:06 PM
pic with the F15 looks ;like your car is towing it with a strap. great look for the car, but I dont think the gov't would like you putting Phils LED's on the plane.... lol

Operator
05-16-2011, 05:08 PM
Oh and a thanks to swoardrider; Geoffafa; PNB7; Dangler for the info they gave me for tire size fitment. That's what keeps this community going, thanks guys!

EMAXX
05-16-2011, 05:14 PM
Car looks great! I love those wheels on there.

I really love those STI lenses. Did you do them yourself, or have Phill do them when he was doing the LEDs?

Operator
05-16-2011, 05:19 PM
Car looks great! I love those wheels on there.

I really love those STI lenses. Did you do them yourself, or have Phill do them when he was doing the LEDs?

I tried them out last year when phil did my V3's but the process wasn't worked out so I had to take them out. When I got the V4's installed, I sent the lenses and they all got knocked out at the same time. And the Xenarc CBI D1s bulbs are the cherry on top!!!!!! Can't think of a better D1s bulb out there!!!!

Schmaud
05-16-2011, 05:27 PM
Sweet looking car man. I'm a bit partial because it's brilliant red, but nice work! Only thing I would change is lower in the front. Cheers sir.

wildcat333
05-16-2011, 05:38 PM
Fresh.

Coderedpl
05-16-2011, 06:49 PM
It looks really good! Really clean.

How did you end up getting the ring holder? Where'd you get it from? Any side-effects noticed from running the wide tires? Got me thinking now for next tire setup =p

B72.0T
05-16-2011, 07:00 PM
Hey that Treadstone TR6 FMIC.. is that a direct fit? Nothing else to be done/cut/modified? Did you have to get custom piping for it?

Operator
05-16-2011, 07:01 PM
It looks really good! Really clean.

How did you end up getting the ring holder? Where'd you get it from? Any side-effects noticed from running the wide tires? Got me thinking now for next tire setup =p

Bought an Audi TT aftermarket grille (cheaper than the A4's) that came with the holder and I plan on trying to sell the grille itself in the classifieds. So far no real negative effects from the 275's only on speed bumps with 3 people in the rear, and even then the rubbing there is rare.

Coderedpl
05-16-2011, 07:02 PM
Ah, that works.

pw211
05-16-2011, 07:08 PM
God I want 275's... But that's cause I have RWD.. that's gotta be killer for the already every present understeer?

Regardless, looks awesome. Nice to see someone running a set that hasn't been done (as far as I know). [up]

Operator
05-16-2011, 07:11 PM
Hey that Treadstone TR6 FMIC.. is that a direct fit? Nothing else to be done/cut/modified? Did you have to get custom piping for it?

Nope, not a direct fit, but nothing hardcore needed to make it fit. Used Mr.Dance's old piping, which had to be modified so I could keep my fogs. The core had to be inverted. Different piping, though may lead to an easier install. I believe jayphilly is using the same core with cxracing piping.

crazytex21
05-16-2011, 07:19 PM
one of the best CAI's i have seen. it really cleans/opens up the engine bay. great overall look.

Mc Suly
05-16-2011, 07:26 PM
Looks good man.
Those wheels are perfect to show of your brakes!

B72.0T
05-16-2011, 07:27 PM
Nope, not a direct fit, but nothing hardcore needed to make it fit. Used Mr.Dance's old piping, which had to be modified so I could keep my fogs. The core had to be inverted. Different piping, though may lead to an easier install. I believe jayphilly is using the same core with cxracing piping.

The core had to be inverted? How is that done [>_>]

Operator
05-16-2011, 08:12 PM
The core had to be inverted? How is that done [>_>]

Just flipped upside down. So I could get more room. Like I said though, with different piping, it may be able to be slotted right in. Once jayphilly is done, we'll be able to compare installs. The breakdown jayphilly gave for all the IC's under $700 is what convinced me to go the route I did.

rnp614
05-16-2011, 09:16 PM
Why not, I have a Quattro?!? Just make sure the rolling diameter is within 3% difference. I'm currently at .08% difference. Wheel/tire specs 19x8.5 32mm 66.6 bore 235/35 fronts and 19x9.5 35mm 66.6 bore 275/30 rears.




Yeh, I just forgot to mount them before I put the bumper back on. But they'll be on once I get the chance, I had to jump through hoops to get a holder, so I'll for sure mount them!!!





I rubbed a slight bit with my 3 kids in the back, but other than that pretty smooth sailing. Though I FEARED for my wheels life drive down to Dever this past weekend. Those roads are horriaweful!!!!!!!

How do you think you would fare with flushness if you had those fronts in the rear as well? Do the fronts rub a lot? I'm wondering how I would do with my Koni FSD setup.

Also, where did you buy? Get a good deal?

Operator
05-17-2011, 09:08 AM
How do you think you would fare with flushness if you had those fronts in the rear as well? Do the fronts rub a lot? I'm wondering how I would do with my Koni FSD setup.

Also, where did you buy? Get a good deal?

The fronts are still pretty flush, they'd work just fine in the rear in regards to aligning with the fender, I just wanted the look of the 9.5's. No rubbing up front, though my preference is to not go any lower, I'm sure your FSD setup, would look and workout just fine.

rnp614
05-17-2011, 05:25 PM
The fronts are still pretty flush, they'd work just fine in the rear in regards to aligning with the fender, I just wanted the look of the 9.5's. No rubbing up front, though my preference is to not go any lower, I'm sure your FSD setup, would look and workout just fine.

Thanks for the info Operator. Which vendor did you use if you dont mind me asking? Sorry man but you may have brill red look alike running around in the Northeast

Operator
05-17-2011, 06:15 PM
Thanks for the info Operator. Which vendor did you use if you dont mind me asking? Sorry man but you may have brill red look alike running around in the Northeast

Shot you a pm with some other info included.

TMurt
05-17-2011, 06:55 PM
Car looks great! only thing I disagree with is removing the audi logo, just looks empty to me. But you make up for it pretty fast with everything else. Nice job

Operator
05-17-2011, 07:41 PM
Car looks great! only thing I disagree with is removing the audi logo, just looks empty to me. But you make up for it pretty fast with everything else. Nice job

Thanks! Though I didn't remove it, just forgot to put it on, no worries though, all in due time.

J.Owen
05-18-2011, 07:44 AM
what is the offset on your wheels. I am looking to run the same tire sizes and just want to get an idea of fitment.

Operator
05-18-2011, 08:24 AM
32mm front 35mm rear.

digitalAUDI
05-18-2011, 03:53 PM
car looks good. congrats! I've got the rs4 still grill as well in black without the logo. Some people like, some don't. My audi/vw friends as well as my non-audi/vw friends like it without the logo.

question about the CAI. I was running the same setup, but after hearing some stories about water getting sucked in and motors blowing, I changed it back to short ram. Granted I did drive in the rain with it and did notice any issues, but the idea of blowing my motor was always in the back of my mind... any issues with yours? driving in the rain, puddles, etc....

Operator
05-19-2011, 08:36 AM
car looks good. congrats! I've got the rs4 still grill as well in black without the logo. Some people like, some don't. My audi/vw friends as well as my non-audi/vw friends like it without the logo.

question about the CAI. I was running the same setup, but after hearing some stories about water getting sucked in and motors blowing, I changed it back to short ram. Granted I did drive in the rain with it and did notice any issues, but the idea of blowing my motor was always in the back of my mind... any issues with yours? driving in the rain, puddles, etc....

Eh, I'm not too worried, as my previous car (though not a turbo) had a CAI that was pretty exposed, and I had no issues. The way this one sits, water would still find it pretty hard to get sucked up. Unless it's a torrential downpour, and I'm mashing on the gas like I'm in a car chase, I really don't see a reason to think I will have an issue. I'll keep you updated.

Koby
05-19-2011, 11:25 AM
Looks great!! Except for the lack of rings...

ryanworth
05-19-2011, 11:26 AM
Very clean sir! Do you have any shots of the rear?
Curious to see how the 275's look from the back.

Operator
05-19-2011, 01:01 PM
I'll try to get some pics from the rear posted up in a bit.

rnp614
05-21-2011, 12:40 PM
Any pics of the car with rings yet? Would love to see it.

Operator
05-21-2011, 12:58 PM
Any pics of the car with rings yet? Would love to see it.

Installed the holder today, but no pics yet. Also I've run into some engine issues, that need to be trouble shot........ But I'll be sure to post up once I have the rings mounted.

ducati
05-22-2011, 07:12 AM
I say put the rings back on...you dont see BMW owners removing the badge on the hood.

Operator
05-22-2011, 08:25 AM
There is no argument from me....... Like I said, I just forgot to put them on while the bumper was off. I made tons of phone calls and sent lots of emails just to get the holder, so believe me when I say they will be put on. Just didn't feel like pulling the bumper just for them right after I put it on. I currently have 2 sets of rings, one OEM chrome the other I want to try and color match with my grill and wheels.

rnp614
05-22-2011, 01:15 PM
Man, people need to read the thread if they're going to lay into the OP.

Operator
07-19-2011, 04:35 PM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8145/imageycw.jpg

Just got these in today. Slowly I'm getting there..........................

jimrobbington
07-19-2011, 06:54 PM
You son of a bitch! I am so jealous of you and all your shit I can't afford! I want first AZ ride along. We can vid, and post. Maybe a comparison of the difference in new turbo some where safe? (I don't know where is safe.) But at least a good two-lane on ramp on I-25, rolling start to 75. It would be useful for the community to see the difference.

Operator
07-19-2011, 07:05 PM
Thought I might be able to have the car ready for 5280fest, but I doubt the turbo will get here in time. Not sure if I'm going to take the time to go Stage II+ if I can get a deal on the APR K04 software.

jimrobbington
07-19-2011, 07:11 PM
Yeah, it would be kinda pointless, since I'm sure the K04 file completely changes the fuel map anyway. I don't think I'll be able to make it to 5280, either.

DRAKLORE
07-19-2011, 07:43 PM
Good thread! Sent the turbo to RAI today, I'm glad to see another member trying out a new turbo option available for the b7!
^jim your not alowed to steal first ride from me lol!!!

Operator
07-19-2011, 09:17 PM
I don't think I'll be able to make it to 5280, either.

Nooooooo, you're one of the few people I know!!!

tarunpatel
07-19-2011, 10:02 PM
Great set of MODS wish I had the coin to do the engine mods!

Chris08A4
07-20-2011, 09:47 AM
OP.. your car looks amazing.

Lazze
07-20-2011, 10:22 AM
Nice car, great work[up]

vdubjetta02
07-20-2011, 10:31 AM
Hey buddy, any word on our HPFP internals? and estimated arrival date?

I need to get my car in ASAP for cam follower issues & want to do the internals all in one day at the shop

Will@R.A.I.
07-20-2011, 10:55 AM
Man... with the K0R your car will have the perfect balance of amazing looks and awesome performance. Very nice car.

Operator
07-20-2011, 11:16 AM
Hey buddy, any word on our HPFP internals? and estimated arrival date?

I need to get my car in ASAP for cam follower issues & want to do the internals all in one day at the shop

Not yet, though I hope it's soon, as I'd like to bump my installs up to the end of July instead of August.

Operator
07-20-2011, 11:24 AM
Also I got my winter wheels redone, this week.

Last year, Plasti Dip:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4557/imagegrn.jpg

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/2538/imagevut.jpg

This coming winter, powder coated:
http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/5171/imageabma.jpg

wildcat333
07-20-2011, 08:29 PM
^^^^ way jealous. how did the plastidip hold up in the winter? could you take it through a car wash? can I ask how much the powder coating cost? I am looking to possibly do the same thing this late fall right before winter. thanks for the info.

Operator
07-20-2011, 10:09 PM
^^^^ way jealous. how did the plastidip hold up in the winter? could you take it through a car wash? can I ask how much the powder coating cost? I am looking to possibly do the same thing this late fall right before winter. thanks for the info.

The plasti dip worked great in all honesty, and I took the wheels though the car wash a couple times, no problem. As for powder coating, I was able to get the wheels done for $150.

jimrobbington
07-21-2011, 06:55 AM
All four for 150, or 150 each?

Operator
07-21-2011, 07:17 AM
All four for $150.

jimrobbington
07-21-2011, 07:41 AM
Wow. Great deal! Cheapest quote I got was 260. Did they sand blast your paint off for that price? Up in Fo Co, I assume?

Plasti dip works great, but I want like a kawasaki green or a purple or something for my winters. It's an extra 100 for a special order powder, but that place didn't have the exact color I was looking for.

Operator
07-21-2011, 07:46 AM
Yeh, I had curb rash and other damage, and the wheels look new now. Not sure of his full process, but I figure he had sand them down at some point.

DRAKLORE
07-21-2011, 07:51 AM
mount and dismount! awesome price!!

Operator
07-25-2011, 05:53 AM
Very clean sir! Do you have any shots of the rear?
Curious to see how the 275's look from the back.

Not the best representation but it's what I took real quick.
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/8854/imgp3950.jpg



For those that didn't believe me when I said I'd put the rings back on, once I had the bumper off again:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/5120/imgp4009.jpg

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3299/imgp3996.jpg

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/9290/imgp3942q.jpg

Any pics of the car with rings yet? Would love to see it.
Sorry it took me so long!


Man... with the K0R your car will have the perfect balance of amazing looks and awesome performance. Very nice car.

Looking forward to the kit!!!!!!

kristokes
07-25-2011, 07:38 AM
Moved.

Operator
07-26-2011, 10:01 AM
Still waiting on an update for shipment of the HPFP, Cam follower was shipped out yesterday, found out the APR K04 tune will be $299.

Those running meth, at what boost number does your kit activate? And what is you max & hold number?

Operator
07-28-2011, 09:40 AM
K03 officially arrived at RAI (thanks again Drake!). Could have it back by the 1st week of August if all goes well.

DRAKLORE
08-02-2011, 02:58 PM
No problem! good luck with everything, i talked with Ray at RAI and he explained what numbers are good for W/M demand and hold. he also hooked me up with a snow performance stage 2 :-) are you planning on upgrading your clutch? i was at 80k miles with my OEM and it needed to be replaced anyways, i will let everyone know how the VAST stg3 is, if all is well you could probably do a VAST stg 2 and the price is very attractive.

Operator
08-04-2011, 12:41 PM
Hey buddy, any word on our HPFP internals? and estimated arrival date?

I need to get my car in ASAP for cam follower issues & want to do the internals all in one day at the shop

Cancelled my order, didn't want to wait anymore. Ended up going with a full AWE HPFP.

Operator
08-10-2011, 03:48 PM
Cancelled my order, didn't want to wait anymore. Ended up going with a full AWE HPFP.

Well, not wanting to take any chances with not recieving the AWE HPFP after not hearing from the seller since payment I'm going through paypal to recoup those funds. And now it's onto http://hpfpupgrade.com/Products/Show/Audi/2.0T+FSI/Audi+FSI+Complete+High+Pressure+Fuel+Pump along with their Performance Rail Valve. Man never thought getting a HPFP would be this difficult, but ultimately, I'm glad I ended up where I am. Should have just gone this route to begin with...........

Satummoo
08-10-2011, 05:28 PM
Well, not wanting to take any chances with not recieving the AWE HPFP after not hearing from the seller since payment I'm going through paypal to recoup those funds. And now it's onto http://hpfpupgrade.com/Products/Show/Audi/2.0T+FSI/Audi+FSI+Complete+High+Pressure+Fuel+Pump along with their Performance Rail Valve. Man never thought getting a HPFP would be this difficult, but ultimately, I'm glad I ended up where I am. Should have just gone this route to begin with...........

look forward to your build!

This is the same HPFP that i'm looking to get soon.

Operator
08-11-2011, 07:39 PM
I'll most likely also grab their follower once it hits the market too. Cool thing about getting their pump is you get a OEM follower included.

Operator
08-23-2011, 11:16 PM
Just awaiting the K0R now. Dang backorders!!!!!!!!!!

14459
hpfpugrade's Stage 1 Pump and 142 bar Rail Valve

viperdsa
08-23-2011, 11:52 PM
Awesome! I'm gonna want a ride once the KOR is on lol

audi8844
08-24-2011, 06:32 AM
Just awaiting the K0R now. Dang backorders!!!!!!!!!!

14459
hpfpugrade's Stage 1 Pump and 142 bar Rail Valve

After what I have been reading about hpfpupgrade, I think that is definitely the way to go. I plan to go with their products regardless of which direction I go with turbo upgrade in the near future. You are planning on going with the suggested s3 injectors, correct?

Operator
08-24-2011, 07:54 AM
Yep, I already have them, just waiting to get the turbo shipped to me.

audi8844
09-06-2011, 11:24 AM
Still no K0R yet? Anxious to get a review

Operator
09-06-2011, 07:56 PM
Still no K0R yet? Anxious to get a review

Last I heard from RAI is the parts should be in this week, not sure if that means the K0R itself will be shipped out this week too or not?!? I'm planning accordingly anyway, and set up a BG Cleaning for this coming tues. Hitting up the only somewhat local 93oct gas station (40 miles away) on Monday, and probably an oil change.

DRAKLORE
09-06-2011, 09:46 PM
Damn no 93???
Ouch that's Alot like Maine haha

Operator
09-06-2011, 09:55 PM
Damn no 93???
Ouch that's Alot like Maine haha

The good thing is base (in Wyoming) is only 10mins~ from that gas station, so I'm up there anyway. I normally fill up when I get back from the missile field so it's not "that" out of the way. Now the state of Colorado is another story.

Operator
09-07-2011, 02:18 PM
Went ahead and grabbed the RAI 4to3in TP to swap out with my TP. Should ship with the turbo.

DRAKLORE
09-07-2011, 11:45 PM
Are you planning on running their DP? It looks great, but I had mine made for 60$ lol not saying it's as good as theirs... But a pipe is a pipe

Operator
09-08-2011, 01:25 AM
No, I don't think I'll go with their DP. At least not for some time. My current DP is already modded to fit a TIP. I just wanted a TP whom's opening allows the turbo to freely expel air. And with the 2.5in VMR TP though it's better than a stock cat, I still don't think it lets the K03 or in the future K0r breath optimally.

Operator
09-12-2011, 02:20 PM
Scheduled a baseline Dyno for weds. Going to do Stage 0+, and Stage II 100oct. Then once I get the K0R do a final run. Mainly I'm doing it to see the gain from the turbo, and not really looking for big numbers. Being at 5,000ft and having a TIP AWD car, I know alot of power is getting lost. But if I hit 180awhp stgII and 260awhp K0R, an 80hp jump will be more than enough for me.

Only issue I see is having the carbon cleaning/oil change done earlier in the day, and doing a dyno later. Any thoughts?

bitskyline
09-12-2011, 03:53 PM
going to like to see the results of this. i was 208hp 238tq and I'm APR 91 stage 2+ with 034 fmic, fwd manual at bout 2,200ft.

Operator
09-12-2011, 04:43 PM
What's the word on your K04?

bitskyline
09-12-2011, 04:54 PM
stiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiill back ordered

Operator
09-14-2011, 01:33 PM
So I show up at the dealership for the BG Cleaning only to find out they no longer have the machine, just additives...... Arghhhhhhhh!!! And due to work next week is my next chance to go elsewhere. Oh well, still waiting on the turbo anyway....

viziers
09-14-2011, 01:40 PM
You will like the 142bar valve as it really did smooth out the power delivery in all aspects of driving!



vizi

DRAKLORE
09-14-2011, 03:04 PM
ViZi were you breaking up in the higher RPMs before the check valve?

viziers
09-14-2011, 03:30 PM
ViZi were you breaking up in the higher RPMs before the check valve?


It was breaking up from 4k on but not nearly as bad as when I had the other tune. Evan smoothed it out quite a bit and the valve finished it up...

It was more of a hesitation/slight buck with the previous tuning.... Now it's like butter driving it! If you want (as a trial only) you can put my old tune on your car as I still have a copy of it untouched and unchanged since they last modified it... But use it at your own risk as I was once told (a while back) it is a 30k tune as it is going to kill the exhaust valves and that person will remain nameless.....




vizi

vizi

rkesh88
09-14-2011, 03:54 PM
Well, not wanting to take any chances with not recieving the AWE HPFP after not hearing from the seller since payment I'm going through paypal to recoup those funds. And now it's onto http://hpfpupgrade.com/Products/Show/Audi/2.0T+FSI/Audi+FSI+Complete+High+Pressure+Fuel+Pump along with their Performance Rail Valve. Man never thought getting a HPFP would be this difficult, but ultimately, I'm glad I ended up where I am. Should have just gone this route to begin with...........
I just saw this and i would have def upgraded to this instead of the APR for the price. The only difference i can see in this one and the apr is that the apr is a 130 bar. Is that a significant difference?

Operator
09-15-2011, 12:04 PM
The build and one or two parts is the difference. They both do 130 bar.

Operator
09-19-2011, 08:20 PM
Got my BG cleaning done today, no noticeable difference, but I have peace of mind..... RAI is telling me the K0R should be shipping soon. If I can get it by Monday, I'm looking to have it installed by the 2nd.

Operator
09-21-2011, 06:19 PM
Got my UPS tracking numbers for the K0R (fri) and Testpipe (mon). Drop off the car Monday night if all goes well!!!!!! Due to the work schedule, a tune might take a bit longer.

viperdsa
09-21-2011, 06:51 PM
Got my UPS tracking numbers for the K0R (fri) and Testpipe (mon). Drop off the car Monday night if all goes well!!!!!! Due to the work schedule, a tune might take a bit longer.

Awesome news!

Operator
09-22-2011, 08:21 PM
On a different note, I got my OT-2 in today. Took the car out just to see how well Logworks, displayed data, and it was cool to see how the IAT's dropped, after the w/m began spraying. I'll try to run a log when I take the car back in to dyno.

Operator
09-26-2011, 11:38 AM
K0R came in on Friday
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/2568/imageavg.jpg

RAI TP came in about an hour ago.
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7936/photo6ru.jpg

Install should begin around 7pm! Still working the issue of a tune.....

audi8844
09-26-2011, 12:06 PM
Very exciting! I will definitely keep up with this for a review and some vids! Good luck with install and getting software squared away [wrench]

jimrobbington
09-27-2011, 01:48 PM
Dave, please install this thing! I can no longer wait.

audi8844
09-27-2011, 02:45 PM
Really wanna see a K0R vs. Stage III. Not saying it will be super close, but I want to see the differences at different engine speeds, etc.

bitskyline
09-27-2011, 03:14 PM
hope this means mine is on they way soon!

hey take some pictures during the install.

Operator
09-27-2011, 03:31 PM
Dave, please install this thing! I can no longer wait.

Just dropped the car off last night...... Patience JR [;)] and work will keep me away till Saturday. And since SCR Perfomance isn't open on the weekend and I'm back to work on Monday. At the earliest I can get a tune is on the 6th. And this is all as long as the install goes without a hitch. But you know I'll give a full review.


hope this means mine is on they way soon!

hey take some pictures during the install.


The AF is keeping me away during the install, so I left the car in the good hands of a friend/tuner. And with only a 2 day break between working, I figured it would be the fastest way to get things done. So no pics of the install. And RAI had to work some back-up sources for their parts, not sure if APR is doing the same with your K04.

Operator
09-28-2011, 09:08 AM
Just got an email back from APR, and it looks like my ecu is compatabile with their tune!!! Glad that's out of the way!!! Really wasn't looking forward to having to drive down to Denver for tuning.

audi8844
09-28-2011, 12:58 PM
Just got an email back from APR, and it looks like my ecu is compatabile with their tune!!! Glad that's out of the way!!! Really wasn't looking forward to having to drive down to Denver for tuning.

May have missed this, but what do you mean compatible? Are you going to be using the APR K04 tune?

- Jordan

Operator
09-29-2011, 08:28 AM
May have missed this, but what do you mean compatible? Are you going to be using the APR K04 tune?

- Jordan

Yep, my plan is to keep things as simple as possible for myself. The APR shop is only about 20mins away, while the Uni, Revo, GIAC are all about an hour and change away. Don't really want to have to make those trips if I don't have to. And Will was able to gain 70hp and 50wtq with the normal Uni K04 file, no upgraded HPFP or FMIC. I don't think the performance will be that different, and if anything APR's might be less aggressive (good thing for my TIP). I'm not setting out to make big HP numbers, just a car with nice get up and go!

rkesh88
09-29-2011, 12:04 PM
Operator does this mean you can log your turbo and get another company IE Vast to write a tune cause 725 for a tune is steep.

Operator
09-29-2011, 12:22 PM
Operator does this mean you can log your turbo and get another company IE Vast to write a tune cause 725 for a tune is steep.

I could, but I plan to start off with the APR 100oct program and see how that fares. For $299 it's worth a shot. A custom tune while I'm sure would get the most out of the turbo, I think would cost just about as much if not more than the Uni tune. Though I haven't inquired how much Vast or EPL or ASP would charge.

Satummoo
09-29-2011, 07:20 PM
I've been waiting to hear back about this for months. Glad to see it's coming together

Operator
10-03-2011, 07:39 PM
Looking to get tuned thurs or Friday. Then planning on going back to the shop to get updated numbers Monday morning. We'll see if things actually fold out like that though.......

wootwoot
10-03-2011, 08:55 PM
Looking to get tuned thurs or Friday. Then planning on going back to the shop to get updated numbers Monday morning. We'll see if things actually fold out like that though.......

Can't wait to see the numbers you pull and your thoughts on the KOR.

jimrobbington
10-04-2011, 10:07 AM
Looking to get tuned thurs or Friday. Then planning on going back to the shop to get updated numbers Monday morning. We'll see if things actually fold out like that though.......

You off work on monday? I'm off Sunday through Tuesday right now......

Operator
10-04-2011, 10:28 AM
Yep, tuesday too. You wanna hit up the dyno together?

jimrobbington
10-04-2011, 10:31 AM
I'd love to, but I don't think I can spare the extra 100 bucks to throw at some dyno pulls. I just spent an unanticipated grand on tires yesterday.

Operator
10-04-2011, 10:38 AM
Why didn't you do the temp fix with used tires?

jimrobbington
10-04-2011, 10:54 AM
I couldn't find any used 19s, since my snow tires were already mounted on my 17s.

Operator
10-05-2011, 08:29 AM
So my normal shop can't get me in until Monday. But Wolfsburg Autowerks is open on Sat. though they told me the are "new" at flashing cars. Do I wait till Monday, or give this new shop a shot? Any of the Boulder guys ever been there?

Coderedpl
10-05-2011, 09:15 AM
So my normal shop can't get me in until Monday. But Wolfsburg Autowerks is open on Sat. though they told me the are "new" at flashing cars. Do I wait till Monday, or give this new shop a shot? Any of the Boulder guys ever been there?

I vote for wait. I assume you've dealt with ur shop before so just wait.

Operator
10-05-2011, 09:48 AM
Only issue is if I wait, then I don't know if I still want to dyno later the same day. And if I don't dyno it then, it'll be another week before I can go back in. I'm just getting slightly impatient......

Thought it would be - (July) Order with core already sent in 5-10 business days build time. Install 1-2 days, tune. On the road 1st week of August. Now 2 months later.........

J.Owen
10-05-2011, 10:50 AM
you've waited this long.

jimrobbington
10-05-2011, 11:28 AM
I would have to agree. You know I would never go to another shop. I also think it would kind of be a waste to dyno that quickly after the tune. I would give it a good couple days at least of hard driving before the dyno.... It's hard to wait, but you don't want to have excuses available if the numbers don't seem right. It would be better to know the tune is fully adjusted.

Operator
10-05-2011, 12:15 PM
Though I prefer SCR, I've long since stopped taking may car to them for performance mods. Forest up in Loveland handles that for me now. So to me he's where my shop "loyalty" lies. Maybe I'm trying to convince myself?!? But a flash is a flash. They've done the late model S4 and VW where you have to remove the ECU and send it in to APR. And JR, if you come up on Sunday, I can take my car through it's paces on a Canyon cruise!!! Help me out [;)]! All this will be moot if the TP install doesn't get done in time.

jimrobbington
10-05-2011, 04:38 PM
I would love to go for a good drive! Lmk what your plans are! Tuesday would be ideal (no wife) but she might enjoy a drive as long as there is picnic/restaurant involved.

audib7maniac
10-06-2011, 08:23 PM
operator, time to change that sig bro lol

Operator
10-07-2011, 07:54 AM
operator, time to change that sig bro lol

Once it's official!!!! [;)]

And it looks like I'll be going with my old shop, and getting tuned on Monday.

audib7maniac
10-08-2011, 02:54 AM
Once it's official!!!! [;)]

And it looks like I'll be going with my old shop, and getting tuned on Monday.

Lol i hope u enjoy it man. i think im gonna do a gt2871r w meth. One of the members has been running it on his b7 w stock tip tranny for 18 months. Let me know how that K0R feels with the tip. [up]

Operator
10-08-2011, 08:42 PM
One step closer, K0R is installed, and so far it's done well on just the APR II tune. Can't wait till Monday to get a proper tune. Really don't want to run onto the wastegate issue though, guess I'll see.....

On a side note, the cam follower was in good shape (it's replaced anyway).

jimrobbington
10-09-2011, 11:05 AM
So you are going to wait another week to dyno, right? I might have made up my mind that Dr. No deserves it.

Operator
10-09-2011, 11:13 AM
Boost switch hidden in the back of the engine bay.
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5282/imagejkq.jpg

K0R installed.
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/8205/imageeit.jpg

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6283/imageqszm.jpg

RAI Testpipe attached to my OBX customized DP. Ended up modifying the TP so it would mate up.
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/6643/imagefpd.jpg

HPFPupgrade Stage 1 pump. Nothing really different externally.
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/9231/imagenkv.jpg

Operator
10-10-2011, 07:12 AM
Turned down the psi to 9-10psi injection. I venture, I'll be refilling more often.

jimrobbington
10-10-2011, 09:51 AM
How much of this install did you do yourself, hmmm? And which APR tune are you switching to? just 2+?

Operator
10-10-2011, 10:06 AM
For the K0R, zero percent. Being stuck at a Missile Alert Facility days at a time lately has been sapping my time. And I'm skipping the II+ and just doing K04.

Operator
10-11-2011, 08:34 PM
Burned through about 1/2 a tank of gas probably averaging 15mpg at best, and I'm going through w/m alot faster too. I'm sure the novelty will end at some point. The APR dealer set me to the stock K04 file once I got flashed, but that lasted until I got the keys and put it into 93. If the car is "learning" my driving style, it probably thinks I'm a manic....... 2nd gear pulls, 3rd gear pulls........ Tried out the 104oct file and it was luv at 1st pedal smash. Though I think for day to day driving, I'll stick to 93, and switch over for fun runs. I'll try to have a more in-depth review, after I finish at the dyno (planning on the 17th). But simply put, the headaches and waiting game are turning out to be more than worth it.

SykoraA4
10-11-2011, 09:25 PM
I'm sure the novelty will end at some point.

Not any time soon!

jimrobbington
10-12-2011, 09:45 AM
Burned through about 1/2 a tank of gas probably averaging 15mpg at best, and I'm going through w/m alot faster too. I'm sure the novelty will end at some point. The APR dealer set me to the stock K04 file once I got flashed, but that lasted until I got the keys and put it into 93. If the car is "learning" my driving style, it probably thinks I'm a manic....... 2nd gear pulls, 3rd gear pulls........ Tried out the 104oct file and it was luv at 1st pedal smash. Though I think for day to day driving, I'll stick to 93, and switch over for fun runs. I'll try to have a more in-depth review, after I finish at the dyno (planning on the 17th). But simply put, the headaches and waiting game are turning out to be more than worth it.

Woo hoo! You're coming down Sunday for the gtg, right?

Operator
10-12-2011, 10:44 AM
I want to go, but I'm at 50% on if I'll make it.

Operator
10-13-2011, 08:09 AM
Oh, and I made one of thee most shameful DIY heatshields for my CAI. On the plus side, it does it's job very well, the negative is it's not pretty. Still may end up with a Blinktek shield so I don't have to shy away from opening my hood.

jimrobbington
10-13-2011, 08:12 AM
I don't believe it, pics!

Operator
10-13-2011, 08:28 AM
I don't believe it, pics!

I'll spare myself the flamage. Dude, it's rough, but like I said does the job. Right next to a 700+degree turbo, the shield is warm to the touch on the other side, and my intake piping is still under 100 degrees. Just ZERO style points.

wootwoot
10-13-2011, 08:41 PM
Operator what sort of preventative maintenance did you do to prep your car before installing the KOR? I'm really curious if you flushed your tranny and changed differential fluid.

Operator
10-15-2011, 09:24 AM
Operator what sort of preventative maintenance did you do to prep your car before installing the KOR? I'm really curious if you flushed your tranny and changed differential fluid.

Neither of the above. Just an oil change, and BG Carbon Cleaning.

jibatnes
10-17-2011, 12:54 PM
Cant wait to hear about the Dyno runs :) Im hoping youre satisified with this kit. I might go for this kit as well..

Edit: Keep forgetting about the time difference. its late evening here now.

jerseybrian
10-17-2011, 06:54 PM
Operator - are you still running on the OEM clutch?

jimrobbington
10-17-2011, 07:27 PM
Operator - are you still running on the OEM clutch?

Ha ha, clutch. He's tip, yo!

Jonathan

jerseybrian
10-17-2011, 07:36 PM
Ha ha, clutch. He's tip, yo!

Jonathan

Shit lol.... forgot!

Operator
10-17-2011, 09:17 PM
Well I went back to the dyno today, and while the gains are nice, the final number was a bit lower than I was expecting. But numbers aside, the car continues to wow me each time I hit the accelerator. I told RAI it's like getting chipped all over again plus some! I had my friend Edgar (i3oricua here) ride along to pick up his A4 and he commented on how nice the performance was. Like I said a couple times, the car seems to want to run past 100mph, and just keep going (though I of course NEVER go that fast! no matter what the max speed on my GPS may say). But onto the dyno. Baseline and final were done at the same shop, boostcreepltd around 60-70 degrees both times. Harvey the Dyno operator told me ahead of time, his dyno reads low, and gives out pretty conservative numbers. I really just wanted to get an idea of the gains more so than the max read-out. So here it is.

Audi A4 Quattro/Tiptronic K0R at 5,000ft elevation

Stage 0+ (stock plus TP) K03
166awhp

APR Stage II 93oct K03
188awhp

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7874/k03apr.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd-v1f18Py0

APR K04tune K0R
255awhp

http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/860/k0r.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoYmqSiFbrg

PSI All 3
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5093/datao.jpg

So in short, a 89awhp gain over stock and 67awhp gain over Stage II. While the difference from stock to Stage II was only 22awhp.
Things of note, the dyno operator, and the shop I received my tune from, claimed they can hear an exhaust leak, so I plan to get that checked out. After working with F-16's on the flightline my hearing is about shot, so I can't tell. My 255 is close to the 260 Will put down, though I have more mods. Though my tiptronic drivetrain loss and elevation, and less aggressive APR tune don't help. Also the APR tune for some reason on the dyno, is erratic (but wasn't for StageII?!?), but while driving is smooth?!? The boost fluctuated as you can see from the last graph. I'm not sure what caused that, as on the previous 2 it was pretty smooth, and like I said, it doesn't seem to do that in normal driving. I'm waiting to see how Jimrobbington's dyno goes, to see if I want to take the car down to Denver next week. All in all, I'm more than pleased. GT28

bitskyline
10-17-2011, 09:24 PM
good numbers, I can only hope mine will be more ;)










If the parts ever come in...

jerseybrian
10-17-2011, 09:24 PM
Was that dyno with or without meth?

viperdsa
10-17-2011, 09:26 PM
Very impressive results, congrats.

Operator
10-17-2011, 09:35 PM
Any ideas on the fluctuation? I figure, if the boost was steady like stock and Stage II numbers wise there might be more. I didn't really hold any level steady like Stage II. From 3000rpm to about 4200rpm it's up and down unlike the other 2? And I'll have to start paying more attention while driving to make 100% sure it's not happening there too.

Operator
10-17-2011, 09:39 PM
good numbers, I can only hope mine will be more ;)

If the parts ever come in...

Being FWD and a manual about 3,000ft lower, you should put down some nice numbers. Once you get the parts [;)]


Was that dyno with or without meth?

With.

jimrobbington
10-17-2011, 09:53 PM
Yeah David, your boost levels should not be fluctuating like that, I wouldn't think. you've had the tune for a week, right? I mean that is a great difference from stage 2 to now, but I definately think you can work out some kinks. I think maybe a MBC would level out that boost mountain you have there. It should definately hold peak boost for longer than that. I will be pulling boost logs and fuel logs tomorrow, and will post that in my thread. I will also let you know how my dyno goes on Wednesday.

jimrobbington
10-17-2011, 10:05 PM
If you want to try it out (MBC), and you don't want to wait for shipping, I can pick one up for you tomorrow or Wednesday while I am out in Denver. The place I am doing my dyno has Hallman ones, and there is a Denver shop that has my choice in stock:http://www.boostcontroller.com/products/GrimmspeedBCoverview.jpg


Dunno if you can find any up in FC, but I'll be glad to help you out if needed. I still owe you one.

jibatnes
10-17-2011, 11:52 PM
Nice numbers. Do you know what dynos others that are running APR K04 are compared to this? Im not sure witch to choose? Great car btw :) Looking awsome.. :)

wootwoot
10-18-2011, 09:00 AM
Nice numbers! I added you to the dyno thread here http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/357838-Official-B7-Dyno-Thread. Is the K04 tune you are running mapped for 100 octane since you are running methanol injection?

Don Supreme
10-18-2011, 09:10 AM
Dyno Dynamics are real heart breakers.. Nice numbers on that dyno.

Also, it seems the boost is really falling off up top. Is that the proper boost for this turbo @ high RPM? You might need a better tune to fully extract the power of this setup.

RAI Motorsport
10-18-2011, 09:31 AM
torque numbers?

jimrobbington
10-18-2011, 09:49 AM
torque numbers?

Yes, good point! To me, torque is much more important anyway. Just done with my logs, and will post when I get home.

Jonathan

Operator
10-18-2011, 12:18 PM
Nice numbers. Do you know what dynos others that are running APR K04 are compared to this? Im not sure witch to choose? Great car btw :) Looking awsome.. :)

Done on a dynojet, which from what I understand reads higher than dyno dynamics. Also Manual trans.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/165619-Dyno-Good-news-and-bad-news?highlight=

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/199725-Dynoed-My-Car-Today?p=2572611&viewfull=1#post2572611

APR Stage III Tip
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/360451-Where-are-the-Stage-3-(K04-included)-Tiptronic-guys?p=5199908&viewfull=1#post5199908



Nice numbers! I added you to the dyno thread here http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/357838-Official-B7-Dyno-Thread. Is the K04 tune you are running mapped for 100 octane since you are running methanol injection?

I'm going to try adding Torco, as I think trying the 100oct tune with the w/m didn't work as planned. I also may need a different nozzle now since I'm pushing more power. But I want to see if having 100oct fuel will help smooth out the boost.


torque numbers?

Totally forgot to get that printout. I got them for the Stage II baseline. But for some reason only HP was printed out this go around. I'll see if I can pick them up.


Oh, and an example of the fun elevation plays: http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/187767-Here-s-why-being-at-6000-ft-elevation-sucks?highlight=

Operator
10-19-2011, 09:17 AM
Should have my fuel and meth taken care of by weds next week, and I have another dyno scheduled (same place as Jimrobbington) to see if the boost is ironed out. If it's still "wavy" I'll get some logs done and send them in to RAI, I'll try to get the tq numbers from the other dyno shop by next weds. Not sure how much the boost fluctuation cost me, but I figure, it can't be a good thing.

psiaddict85
10-20-2011, 08:53 AM
Good numbers but way short of 300+ Maybe it's a good thing though considering you have a Tip. Thought about getting he K0R over the winter but now wonder what the car would actually make without meth on a Tip.

Operator
10-20-2011, 09:36 AM
I honestly don't think this dyno is a legit reflection of the turbo. The boost flux is way out of whack. I don't believe I have the nozzle size that's right for my car which in turn isn't providing the octane level boost needed to run the tune properly (also I may need to adjust my w/m ratio). My feeling is that the tune/software detected, it wasn't getting the octane required, and started pulling back. I say this because, I tried out a lower program, and got pretty much the same numbers. Even still the gains on a TIP are about 70whp. Take jimrobbington with his latest dyno. If he could go from 221 to 291whp, I'd think that's pretty impressive. And with me still needing to tweak things, that puts the 70whp gain as a minimum. So don't pass up on the K0R just yet. I'll post up updated info next week.

jimrobbington
10-20-2011, 10:04 AM
Yeah, at 255 whp, with gremlins, there is much room for improvement. I mean, look at the difference in my first stage 2 dyno vs my most recent one.

If I could improve 20 whp just from small tweaks and fixes, I bet David could get that much and more by perfecting his setup. I bet there is easily room for another 40-50 whp.

Jonathan

Operator
10-21-2011, 09:50 AM
JR, don't think I can do tues, I think that's when a few of my ordered items arrive. When is your lunch?

jimrobbington
10-21-2011, 09:58 AM
JR, don't think I can do tues, I think that's when a few of my ordered items arrive. When is your lunch?

Fuck! I swear I'm not avoiding you. I don't get a break, as I'm the only one in the office that day. Ugh. Dammit!

Jonathan

Operator
10-21-2011, 10:07 AM
My November schedule for the AF is looking pretty good, I'll try to holler at you one of your days off then. Now get to finding a route for us to drive!

Oh and when are you swapping to winters? 1st Snow, 1 week with consecutive 50's. Thanks-G. December?

jimrobbington
10-21-2011, 10:23 AM
After next week I go back to normal days off again, sun, mon, tues.

Oh, and I will put winters on when the forecast calls for like 6 inches, or it is constantly like 40░ out.

I am really happy with my new General Gmax As03 all seasons. Wonderful grip. Went out the other day when it was like 40░ out and rainy, and I could barely get them to slip going hard around 90░ turns. Great tires!

Jonathan

Sprode
10-23-2011, 10:21 AM
I'm going to try adding Torco, as I think trying the 100oct tune with the w/m didn't work as planned. I also may need a different nozzle now since I'm pushing more power. But I want to see if having 100oct fuel will help smooth out the boost.



Totally forgot to get that printout. I got them for the Stage II baseline. But for some reason only HP was printed out this go around. I'll see if I can pick them up.




I'm surprised RAI couldn't chime in to add this for you. You can easily tell the torque peak by where the slope of the power changes. Notice: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-u5LAsLvcAXU/TqQ-BNayubI/AAAAAAAAAXU/oLe14yacAQ8/w715-h453-k/k0r2.jpg

Using power=torque*rpm/5252 you get (just reading from the graph) 188=torque*3500/5252, torque max is 282 ft-lbs. I'd give 5% error bars on that, but there you go.

oregonaudi
10-23-2011, 06:15 PM
What does your boost gauge say you spike and hold at?
I got the wastegate issue taken care of and I now spike at 20 and hold around 19. I may try to dyno next weekend if I can find the time. I need to do some logging too to see what the requested boost is too.
Glad you are up and running.

Operator
10-23-2011, 06:46 PM
What does your boost gauge say you spike and hold at?
I got the wastegate issue taken care of and I now spike at 20 and hold around 19. I may try to dyno next weekend if I can find the time. I need to do some logging too to see what the requested boost is too.
Glad you are up and running.

I'm up and running, but not properly yet, on the tune I want to run. My boost as per the dyno peaked at 22.5, but didn't hold anything (22.5 to 20.5 to 21 to 19 to 19.5 to 18.5 continuing to wave). My APR II hit 17.5 but held 17 for about 1000rpm. Stock hit 12.5 and held 12psi for about 2000rpm. I've got another dyno at a different shop weds. I like how they supply info, vs the shop I had gone to. Only bad thing, is they supposedly charge an extra $25 for boost readings.......

jimrobbington
10-23-2011, 07:18 PM
I'm up and running, but not properly yet, on the tune I want to run. My boost as per the dyno peaked at 22.5, but didn't hold anything (22.5 to 20.5 to 21 to 19 to 19.5 to 18.5 continuing to wave). My APR II hit 17.5 but held 17 for about 1000rpm. Stock hit 12.5 and held 12psi for about 2000rpm. I've got another dyno at a different shop weds. I like how they supply info, vs the shop I had gone to. Only bad thing, is they supposedly charge an extra $25 for boost readings.......

I believe the extra $25 includes air/fuel ratios as well. So that will help figure this out as well.

JR

Operator
10-23-2011, 09:44 PM
Man, I may have to put my snows on the night before......

jimrobbington
10-23-2011, 09:49 PM
Man, I may have to put my snows on the night before......

I heard it's supposed to snow Wed, but is it supposed to snow a lot?

JR

Operator
10-24-2011, 10:01 AM
Let me know how the weather is when you head out to work.

drumnjuny
10-25-2011, 11:44 AM
if i could, i'd like to meet up n see/feel your setup too! pm sent

Operator
10-26-2011, 08:20 AM
Well the Dyno shop just rescheduled me. Odd, I've been looking forward to driving in the 1st snow, just figured I had a few more weeks. The dyno shop doesn't like to run cars in these conditions, and I honestly didn't feel like driving to Denver in 4-5 inch snow with my summers still on.

jimrobbington
10-26-2011, 08:31 AM
Weather is perfect! I guess a wet dyno would be unsafe with unstable traction? My car was raping apes in the way to work. Below freezing and wet must be what it's like to have a fmic!

JR

Operator
10-26-2011, 09:47 AM
Last night driving home my IAT's hit a low of 28 degrees. But I babied the car home since the plows hadn't hit the road yet.

wootwoot
10-26-2011, 09:55 PM
Operator you should hit the dyno with that 100 octane booster as well just to see if it gives gains on top of the cold temps.

AudiA4_20T
10-27-2011, 01:20 PM
You all have to realize that his stock Dyno was extremely lower than most. Everyone likes to see 255 and compare it to all the lofty dynojet numbers that other competitors put out but look at the gains

jimrobbington
10-27-2011, 01:35 PM
You all have to realize that his stock Dyno was extremely lower than most. Everyone likes to see 255 and compare it to all the lofty dynojet numbers that other competitors put out but look at the gains

True, damn near 100 whp is nothing to scoff at, especially since it seems there is room for improvement.


JR

Operator
10-29-2011, 09:27 AM
Got my new 250psi pump in the mail, along with a new nozzle with better atomizing and gph. Looking to install them Tuesday.

jimrobbington
10-29-2011, 10:24 AM
Got my new 250psi pump in the mail, along with a new nozzle with better atomizing and gph. Looking to install them Tuesday.

So, wait. The pump that came with the kit originally was not powerful enough? Was it bought used? Tell me more. What brand?

JR

Operator
10-29-2011, 12:52 PM
So, wait. The pump that came with the kit originally was not powerful enough? Was it bought used? Tell me more. What brand?

JR

The pump itself was fine. But bumping up in power, I wanted a more powerful pump. The pump was brand new and came with the kit, its has worked like a champ since install. I used CoolingMist originally, and stuck with them for the new pump and nozzle. Kinda like my VMR TP, there were no issues with it, I just wanted a change. Let me know if you're interested in the pump, as it'll be up for sale once I take it out.

Operator
10-31-2011, 12:00 PM
Finally found a 4 spoke steering wheel with paddles for an awesome price on ebay. Would have gone for a 3 spoke, but they are more expensive, and would require me to get a new air bag (adding even more to the price). Should be in this week. Just need to get VAG-com'd for it.

vdubjetta02
10-31-2011, 03:41 PM
255 WHP on a tip must be fun [evilsmile]

Operator
10-31-2011, 03:45 PM
Going to Denver Thursday to see if I've squeezed out a few more ponies.

AudiA4_20T
11-01-2011, 07:44 PM
hell yea. I think everyone appreciates this independent testing. You're sticking with APR for the tune?

Operator
11-01-2011, 08:27 PM
Yep. Still a little confused with the different settings I have vs another B7 A4 2007 TIP that also has a K04 tune. But I'm ironing it out slowly.

jimrobbington
11-01-2011, 10:31 PM
I've already got a couple inches of wet snow so far tonight. You still going to be able to dyno on Thursday?

JR

Operator
11-01-2011, 11:04 PM
As long as it stops in the morning, and the sun is out the rest of weds..... My appt is in the afternoon on thurs, so that "should" be enough time for the roads to dry up. We'll se.

jimrobbington
11-02-2011, 07:42 AM
As long as it stops in the morning, and the sun is out the rest of weds..... My appt is in the afternoon on thurs, so that "should" be enough time for the roads to dry up. We'll se.

Just finished shoveling the driveway. 8-10 inches here! It is heavy snow too, very wet.

JR

Operator
11-02-2011, 12:44 PM
Well the roads here have melted and dried for the most part. As long as it doesn't snow much again tonight, I'll be down tomorrow.

Arin@APR
11-03-2011, 06:04 PM
Have you logged boost on the road? RPM, Boost actual, Boost Request and Wastegate duty cycle from 1500 PRM to redline in 4th gear?

Since this is not our turbocharger, it's possible the wastegate settings could be completely different, which may cause issues with boost control.

Under 12.5 PSI by redline does not look correct.

Operator
11-03-2011, 09:00 PM
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/4408/dynolog.jpg

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/4870/dynolog2.jpg

Thanks Arin for the intel, I'll add that to the list for my data logging session. These two docs above are a little more detailed. Let me know if you gather any more info from them.

jimrobbington
11-03-2011, 09:12 PM
Definately looks better, but still not right. Shouldn't the turbo hold boost, and not peter out like a K03?

JR

Arin@APR
11-04-2011, 09:55 AM
Boost on dynos tends to look a little different compared to boost on the road, but here's some road data I have.

Essentially I'd expect to see around 19-21 PSI from around 3000-5800 RPM's if you're near sea level. It should then taper towards redline, and by 6800, depending on weather/altitude and other environmental factors I'd expect to see it around 15-17 psi. Duty cycle was around 68 after boost onset and tapered up to around 80 by redline so it doesn't look like there's too much headroom left if you're higher in altitude or have a small boost leak.

Are you at really high altitude? Have you tried the 93 octane file with 93 octane fuel and no water/meth? I'd try that to make sure the w/m is not causing any strange behavior.

Also, what does your mass airflow look like? I'm near sea level and on this particular day it was around 250 g/s by 6800 RPM which is pretty good.

http://www.goapr.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/b7a4k04boost.png

http://www.goapr.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/b7a4k04maf.png

jerseybrian
11-04-2011, 11:28 AM
Essentially I'd expect to see around 19-21 PSI from around 3000-5800 RPM's if you're near sea level. It should then taper towards redline, and by 6800, depending on weather/altitude and other environmental factors I'd expect to see it around 15-17 psi.

Little off topic, but I'm at stage 2+ w/ stock KO3 and I'm seeing a spike of 25psi and then holding about 23psi from 3000-5800rpms and then it gradually falls to 15psi to redline. I figured this was due to a boost leak... are you trying to say that this is normal?

jimrobbington
11-04-2011, 11:41 AM
Little off topic, but I'm at stage 2+ w/ stock KO3 and I'm seeing a spike of 25psi and then holding about 23psi from 3000-5800rpms and then it gradually falls to 15psi to redline. I figured this was due to a boost leak... are you trying to say that this is normal?

Yes, that is completely normal for a K03.

JR

solaris10
11-04-2011, 03:31 PM
..Great thread, some pretty good numbers there

oregonaudi
11-04-2011, 07:01 PM
Your boost figures are looking pretty close to what I have been seeing. I don't have a VAG COM and haven't had time to get to a dyno, but my KOR peaks at 20, holds at 19, and then tapers off. However, it doesn't taper off nearly as quickly as yours.
Anyone have a VAG COM they want to send me? I swear I won't steal it.

Operator
11-09-2011, 09:52 AM
Boost on dynos tends to look a little different compared to boost on the road, but here's some road data I have.

Essentially I'd expect to see around 19-21 PSI from around 3000-5800 RPM's if you're near sea level. It should then taper towards redline, and by 6800, depending on weather/altitude and other environmental factors I'd expect to see it around 15-17 psi. Duty cycle was around 68 after boost onset and tapered up to around 80 by redline so it doesn't look like there's too much headroom left if you're higher in altitude or have a small boost leak.

Are you at really high altitude? Have you tried the 93 octane file with 93 octane fuel and no water/meth? I'd try that to make sure the w/m is not causing any strange behavior.

Also, what does your mass airflow look like? I'm near sea level and on this particular day it was around 250 g/s by 6800 RPM which is pretty good.



I'm currently running the 100/104octane program with 100oct and w/m. I tried the 93oct tune with no w/m but still with the race fuel, and the AFR's didn't really change. And I'd say I'm at a high altitude (5,000ft+) and being in Colorado, the temps have been under 65 for awhile now. And the simple logs I've done, my MAF's don't seem to go past 198g/s. I'll run more of those when I get home, but the more in-depth logging will have to be done once I get to the shop. Thanks alot Arin for the info!!!!

AudiA4_20T
11-10-2011, 08:03 AM
I'm currently running the 100/104octane program with 100oct and w/m. I tried the 93oct tune with no w/m but still with the race fuel, and the AFR's didn't really change. And I'd say I'm at a high altitude (5,000ft+) and being in Colorado, the temps have been under 65 for awhile now. And the simple logs I've done, my MAF's don't seem to go past 198g/s. I'll run more of those when I get home, but the more in-depth logging will have to be done once I get to the shop. Thanks alot Arin for the info!!!!

AFR is fine but timing pull is more important. Make sure to keep an eye on it

CorneliusRox
11-10-2011, 06:27 PM
AFR is fine but timing pull is more important. Make sure to keep an eye on it

idk, I agree, but his AFR was a bit lean for my liking.

Arin@APR
11-10-2011, 06:48 PM
idk, I agree, but his AFR was a bit lean for my liking.

Don't go by dyno readings. If he has a cat, it's not accurate. If it was really "leaning out" the throttle would most likely slam shut.

Log it with vag-com.

CorneliusRox
11-10-2011, 08:59 PM
Don't go by dyno readings. If he has a cat, it's not accurate. If it was really "leaning out" the throttle would most likely slam shut.

Log it with vag-com.

good to know! thanks

drumnjuny
11-13-2011, 11:29 PM
seriously considering a KOR right now... GT28 is where I want to be but i'm afraid of a lack of reliability

Arin@APR
11-14-2011, 07:36 AM
Since you're APR tuned, check out our kit.

Direct bolt on. In stock. Comes with every part you need. :)

http://www.goapr.com/products/turbo_long_20t_fsi_k04.html

http://www.goapr.com/includes/img/products/turbo_long_20t_fsi_k04.jpg

AudiA4_20T
11-14-2011, 08:06 AM
seriously considering a KOR right now... GT28 is where I want to be but i'm afraid of a lack of reliability

This thing puts out GT28 numbers


Since you're APR tuned, check out our kit.

Direct bolt on. In stock. Comes with every part you need. :)

http://www.goapr.com/products/turbo_long_20t_fsi_k04.html

Arin any actual dynos of your kit? Every one I've seen puts out a bit less than the K04 even on happy reading dynos

vdubjetta02
11-14-2011, 11:18 AM
the only time I have been impressed with the S3 kit was on a Quattro, DSG, A3. And that combo right there has a lot of advantages over the A4.

jimrobbington
11-14-2011, 11:40 AM
the only time I have been impressed with the S3 kit was on a Quattro, DSG, A3. And that combo right there has a lot of advantages over the A4.

Not to mention, the K0R is half the price of that S3 kit

JR

Operator
11-14-2011, 03:05 PM
Have you logged boost on the road? RPM, Boost actual, Boost Request and Wastegate duty cycle from 1500 PRM to redline in 4th gear?

Since this is not our turbocharger, it's possible the wastegate settings could be completely different, which may cause issues with boost control.

Under 12.5 PSI by redline does not look correct.

I'm going in on Weds, to get some logs. Anything else you recommend getting looked at or specific sets of addresses?

Arin@APR
11-14-2011, 04:09 PM
www.goapr.com/support/datalogging.php

group 5 is always good to see.

RAI Motorsport
11-19-2011, 05:23 PM
I looked over the logs and see a few things worth looking into. Keep in mind everything i am about to say is based on a car running properly with all equipment working. Also it is based solely on the limited datalogs I have.

1. The car runs on the rich side. Not because anything is wrong, but because it is what the ecu is requesting during WOT. Around 4000 rpm AFR drops into the low 10's. But the requested is also their and correction is very minimal. Direct injection should not have to go under 11.5. I like seeing FSI cars running 12:1 under load.

2. Mass Air Readings are low. About ~60 g/s low from my loose estimations. But iirc, you live in high altitude? This may be something to look at.

3. Timing pulls are very low, roughly 3 degrees nearing redline, and actual timing is very high. This should be a good thing. Timing is running very aggressive at 25 degrees!! make sure water meth is on here. But with the lower load readings this may not be as aggressive as it looks. Also, i need another log that shows intercooler effectiveness. Just sample ambient temp, and iat with no water meth. I cant remember what intercooler you have. A really great intercooler should have about a max 20 degree split at redline.

4. Boost request vs actual is fine per the request. The turbo is still generating a bit more pressure than the request is asking for in almost every individual sample. Their is a few instances when the turbo generates a tiny bit less, but its not even measurable on a boost gauge. ( example : Specified is 1890mbar, actual is 1850. In virtually almost every other line requested values are lower than actual after the turbo is spooled. ex requested is 2150, actual 2290.) These logs show different from the dyno graphs.

**-in regards to this, i still needed the boost logs the way i asked ( 003, 115, 119 ). Sampling the way APR recommends is great for overall viewing, but it comes at the cost of resolution. You have about 2 frames per second this way vs 6 frames per second. The overall is very useful, but we need the resolution right now.

5. Calculated engine load is a bit weird, but again, this could have to do with the low maf readings and declining boost pressure. It could be the way the tune is developed, or altitude, or the cost of tea in china, I am really not sure about this. I dont have experience with the APR files in regards to this.

6. Fuel delivery looks pretty good. The rail pressure is solid, really good actually. the low side starts to decline in the higher rpm, this is normal and not impacting the rail pressure. You have room in the fuelling to grow.


Try unplugging your maf and see how the car operates. Lets see if their is a relationship between the low maf readings, and the rich afr's. It doesn't really look like their will be, but it never hurts to do diligence. Also, inspect the spark plugs, i have an alternate for you to try if they look cooked. Spark strength can have a lot of impact on what we are seeing.

Your dynos are pretty solid. The dyno dynamics is a real heart breaker, and I was very close to buying one instead of the mustang. But Mustang was willing to make a better deal. Given your car is a automatic, and knowing dyno dynamics, it is safe to say you are right on par with Wills car in most area's. Granted he was not really tuned and we were running a bit more pressure. It may not be a terrible idea to try the MBC in your situation. Just be sure to check everything else out, and when you are setting it, make sure you log.

Last, answer your phone!!! I just wrote all of this so you dont call my cell this weekend when i am no where near your logs!!

Operator
11-21-2011, 09:11 AM
Glad I was able to catch you before you left, my bad for not doing it 30mins sooner, so you didn't have to repeat everything you just wrote. I'll start working some some of the things you mentioned. Also I'm driving down to Oklahoma, so that'll give me an idea on how much the altitude in effecting my MAF. I'll look into swapping out the plugs when I get back. I also ordered the same filter as Will so I can swap out my Spectre. And I'll run the car without w/m to check out the IC efficiency, but in the past when I've done it (no logs) it seemed to still more than do the job without the w/m. Thanks for the input. I'll see what suggestions APR has too, to get the most out of their tune.

Arin@APR
11-21-2011, 11:27 AM
I have the logs. I'll let you know what's up!

Operator
11-21-2011, 01:19 PM
Thanks, looking forward to your thoughts.

Arin@APR
11-21-2011, 03:34 PM
Found the issue. You're running old Hybrid K04 software, which is not correct. Wayyyyyy wayy way back, before there was anything such as an OEM S3 K04, we had a hybrid turbo with software. That's what you have on your car.

I've asked the engineers to make new software.

-Arin

jimrobbington
11-21-2011, 03:44 PM
That's awesome news! So you can get updated tuning that matches your turbo finally. Bad news is you'll have to run another dyno.lol.
JR

jimrobbington
11-21-2011, 03:53 PM
So does that mean that the vendor just had the old software and wasn't aware they needed to update?

JR

Operator
11-21-2011, 04:11 PM
Found the issue. You're running old Hybrid K04 software, which is not correct. Wayyyyyy wayy way back, before there was anything such as an OEM S3 K04, we had a hybrid turbo with software. That's what you have on your car.

I've asked the engineers to make new software.

-Arin

Stoked!!!! Thanks again!!!! Shooting you a pm.

Operator
11-21-2011, 04:17 PM
That's awesome news! So you can get updated tuning that matches your turbo finally. Bad news is you'll have to run another dyno.lol.
JR

Yeh, that'll be over $300 in just dyno's [=(] http://www.fmvperformance.com/forum_items/Smileys/default/wtc.gif

jimrobbington
11-21-2011, 04:24 PM
Yeah, but that's not that bad for peace of mind. Maybe I can make it to this one.

JR

Arin@APR
11-21-2011, 04:25 PM
Here's the new file name:

Audi A4 NA MY2007 6-Spd 2.0T FSI 8E0910115P S0020 S3 ED30 K04 V1.0 Testpipes
Audi A4 NA MY2007 Tip 2.0T FSI 8E0910115P S0020 S3 ED30 K04 V1.0 Testpipes

Operator
11-21-2011, 04:28 PM
Here's the new file name:

Audi A4 NA MY2007 6-Spd 2.0T FSI 8E0910115P S0020 S3 ED30 K04 V1.0 Testpipes
Audi A4 NA MY2007 Tip 2.0T FSI 8E0910115P S0020 S3 ED30 K04 V1.0 Testpipes

So would all I need is my receipt to get the new flash without having to pay again. Thanks!

Arin@APR
11-21-2011, 04:29 PM
You don't even need that. The dealer will plug in and automatically know you had APR software as we keep a record of it in our Database, and everything comes from us directly.

flyingfish2626
11-21-2011, 06:35 PM
Congrats on the great build. Glad APR is working hard for you, makes me feel good about my future purchase.

jimrobbington
11-21-2011, 07:37 PM
True, even though I'm not an APR customer, I am impressed by the help Arin is giving David.

JR

Arin@APR
11-21-2011, 07:54 PM
I'm just glad I saw this thread and was able to help.

RAI Motorsport
11-22-2011, 08:26 AM
very nice, the car was running pretty good on the older file, im sure this new one will tighten up the fuelling and boost. Cant wait to see the results!

Operator
11-22-2011, 03:46 PM
At the shop now. With a nice 4 hour highway drive coming afterwards. Thanks again to both Arin and Ray, TOP Notch customer service all the way around!

SykoraA4
11-22-2011, 09:11 PM
let us know how the drive was!

Operator
11-22-2011, 10:15 PM
Well I won't be pushing the car till Thursday, on my drive back home. Driving out the wife was following, so I was pretty conservative. Though I will say it pulls different for sure. Before there seemed to be a little more lag right before a huge surge in power, now things seem to be more linear. But I was also on the 100 file before and due to gas choices currently, I'm only on 93 so its not quite apples to apples yet.

RAI Motorsport
11-23-2011, 08:21 AM
sounds promising. lets be real here tho, their is no chance you will not nail it during that drive. Let me know how it feels afterwards.

jibatnes
11-27-2011, 04:11 PM
Any updates here? :) really looking into this turbo myself..

Smoothie104
11-28-2011, 01:42 AM
You don't even need that. The dealer will plug in and automatically know you had APR software as we keep a record of it in our Database, and everything comes from us directly.

Arin, can any APR customer get this tune from APR if they buy a K0R?

jimrobbington
11-28-2011, 08:46 AM
Arin, can any APR customer get this tune from APR if they buy a K0R?

Yes, it's just their standard S3 K04 tune.

JR

Smoothie104
11-28-2011, 03:14 PM
Yes, it's just their standard S3 K04 tune.

JR

In post #230 Arin stated he was asking the engineers to make new software.. I thought this may be a K0R specific file.