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Goped220
04-19-2011, 06:44 AM
Which tint flim of of these 3 is the best? Also what is better ceramic tints or carbon tints?

zerinA4
04-19-2011, 07:21 AM
I've got SunTek on my S4. Have had Suntek, Llumar and 3M on previous cars with no issues either. Cuts down tremendously on the hot Texas sun when the car is parked outside and that's all that matters to me. All the films were metallic, never used ceramic films.

CBRmatt600
04-19-2011, 09:04 AM
Tints? Is there more than one? :D

zerinA4
04-19-2011, 09:43 AM
Unrelated... people who call them tints abolutely make me want to stab them with a fork. I have no idea where TINTS came from but it drives me mad.

CBRmatt600
04-19-2011, 09:46 AM
I have no idea where it came from either, I had never seen or heard someone refer to it as "tints" until I joined this forum.

SM_ATL
04-19-2011, 10:32 AM
I may explain since I made the mistake myself until someone corrected me... There are a bunch of guys from various countries outside of the US active on this forum and English is not their first language (I live in the US, moved from Belgium a few years ago and my mother language is French for instance...). In French you would say 'vitres tintées' (plural) for tint. The same principle would apply to other languages. Considering this "wanting to stab them with a fork" maybe a tad offending [=(]
Diversity and having one great nation built by people coming from many others is what made the US what it is. It comes with a few drawbacks in spelling, grammar and accents!

zerinA4
04-19-2011, 10:36 AM
You are excused, it's the New Jersey natives that are the offenders in question :)

CBRmatt600
04-19-2011, 11:33 AM
I may explain since I made the mistake myself until someone corrected me... There are a bunch of guys from various countries outside of the US active on this forum and English is not their first language (I live in the US, moved from Belgium a few years ago and my mother language is French for instance...). In French you would say 'vitres tintées' (plural) for tint. The same principle would apply to other languages. Considering this "wanting to stab them with a fork" maybe a tad offending [=(]
Diversity and having one great nation built by people coming from many others is what made the US what it is. It comes with a few drawbacks in spelling, grammar and accents!

Haha, yeah I don't think Zerin is referring to the non-native English speakers. This is in reference to the younger kids and as he said "New Jersey natives" that use the word "tints" for some reason.

SM_ATL
04-19-2011, 12:26 PM
Haha, yeah I don't think Zerin is referring to the non-native English speakers. This is in reference to the younger kids and as he said "New Jersey natives" that use the word "tints" for some reason.

Sure, no offense taken!! I still have a lot to learn and can be a bit pompous in my posts sometimes -more for fun than any other reason- [;)]

HiStandards
04-19-2011, 12:58 PM
i had solar gard on my last car and i couldnt tell the difference in quality and durability over huper optik.
Ceramic is definately the way to go for many reasons, solar heat blocking, antenna interference, scratch resistance, discolor resistance.
Im sure youd be more than satisfied with any of the three.

Goped220
04-19-2011, 01:28 PM
i had solar gard on my last car and i couldnt tell the difference in quality and durability over huper optik.
Ceramic is definately the way to go for many reasons, solar heat blocking, antenna interference, scratch resistance, discolor resistance.
Im sure youd be more than satisfied with any of the three.

Thanks for the good input unlike others who get off topic.

HDClown
04-19-2011, 06:12 PM
Local tint guy I talked to yesterday told me Sun Tek and 3M are the same stuff, made by some other company that both by from. I'm going to likely end up with Llumar ATR on front/rear windows and Llumar Air Blue 80 on front windshield. May spring for Llumar CTX (ceramic), undecided.

winston@podi.ca
04-19-2011, 07:12 PM
Huper Optik

I had it on my Avant, removed it due to getting a VI and regret not putting it back on instead of this 3m Air80 film.

The Huper works so much better rejecting heat.

HiStandards
04-20-2011, 07:36 AM
No problem. I hate clicking on a topic when im looking for information only to find 40 replies not related to the topic at all.

I called a local tint shop yesterday to get a quote for myself and he said he had two different huper optik films. The multilayered Ceramic ($400) or the Xtreme ($300). Both are non-metallic, both reject 99% of UV, but the ceramic has a heat rejection rate of 60% vs the X-treme at 34%. I think the extreme is Dye based so im pretty sure it will fade over time. Im going with the ceramic.

My last car was an E46 M3, i lived in Hawaii and the heat rejection made such a difference. those days where the sun is coming through your side window baking you alive are long gone. For fun i used to open the sunroof shade just to feel the difference of non-ceramic vs ceramic tint.

winston@podi.ca
04-20-2011, 11:46 AM
I know this is a practice that is not done everywhere, but putting a much lighter % of the ceramic film on the windshield will help drastically reduce the heat entering the car.

I had tint on all my windows, windshield and sunroof and the car was noticeably cooler after letting it sit exposed to the sun.

ENV²
04-20-2011, 12:52 PM
I have Suntek Carbon 35% all the way around and Suntek carbon 50% on the windshield. I love it.

HDClown
04-20-2011, 02:49 PM
winston@podi: Air Blue 80 is from Llumar, not 3M. 3M has Crystaline, so which do you actually have? Both of these tints are lower heat rejection because they are designed to be "clear" titns for people who don't want windowst that look like they are rinted.

3M Crystaline rejects 38% solar heat with 68% Visible Light Transmission (VLT) and Llumar Air Blue 80 rejects 43% solar heat with 70% VLT. The Llumar Air Blue 80 is a superior film to 3M Crystaline.

Huper Optik's equivalent film to the above two would be their X-Treme Performance Acht, which rejects 46% heat with 77% VLT. So yes, HO does have the best performing "clear" tint, but it's a minimal increase over Llumar Air Blue 80, but a substantial increase over 3M Crystaline.

For reference, your typical solar heat rejection from a charcoal tint at 15% VLT is usually in the 50-55% range. Brands like Llumar, 3M, Sun Tek. Huper Optik can reach the same heat rejection at a higher VLT (30-35%). So yes, once again HO does have better performing tint while maintaining higher VLT. But if you are willing to reduce VLT, you can get almost the same level of heat rejection.

HiStandards: The basic X-Treme stuff is dyed. Don't get that stuff. If you go HO, you go X-Treme multi-layered ceramic. Call some local shopts that deal in Llumar, F1, or 3M/Sun Tek. You should find that they will do the car in ceramic (such as Llumar CTX) for $210-250 plus $100 for the front windshield (if you choose to do it).

sf_loft
04-21-2011, 12:14 AM
SunTek CXP 70 (Carbon based) all around. No problems at all and it performs great.

kausbose
04-21-2011, 10:00 AM
Huper Optik's equivalent film to the above two would be their X-Treme Performance Acht, which rejects 46% heat with 77% VLT. So yes, HO does have the best performing "clear" tint, but it's a minimal increase over Llumar Air Blue 80, but a substantial increase over 3M Crystaline.



@HDClown: Is this film a multilayered metallic or nano-ceramic. I live in the brightest part of the country here but I like the sun and would like to get some clearer films but with good heat rejection. What prices am I looking to pay for this particular film. The tint guy that I spoke with here locally is asking for $350 for a "typical sedan" for the "ceramic", don't know which one though.

Thanks

AofC_RR
04-21-2011, 10:20 AM
3M Crystalline is AMAZING from what I've seen. A little out of my price range. I've got Huper Optik and love it! Looks much darker than it is.
Off topic I'm with you guys on the "tints" thing. "I have tint on my car or my car is tinted" "I'm doing tint this week" "I am planning on getting my car tinted" are all acceptable. "Got my tints done" "My car has tints now" etc are all wtf where did you learn how to talk?

kausbose
04-21-2011, 10:33 AM
Seriously guys! Way to go off topic. What have we here? Some high school grammar teachers driving S4's? Let it slide.

CBRmatt600
04-21-2011, 11:49 AM
Seriously guys! Way to go off topic. What have we here? Some high school grammar teachers driving S4's? Let it slide.

It's been two days since anyone has said anything, why bring it up again?

kausbose
04-21-2011, 11:53 AM
It's been two days since anyone has said anything, why bring it up again?

I am referring to the post right above me that was posted this morning.

CBRmatt600
04-21-2011, 11:56 AM
I am referring to the post right above me that was posted this morning.

My bad, didn't see that

zerinA4
04-21-2011, 12:13 PM
lol

HDClown
04-21-2011, 01:19 PM
@HDClown: Is this film a multilayered metallic or nano-ceramic. I live in the brightest part of the country here but I like the sun and would like to get some clearer films but with good heat rejection. What prices am I looking to pay for this particular film. The tint guy that I spoke with here locally is asking for $350 for a "typical sedan" for the "ceramic", don't know which one though.

Thanks

You quoted me on a lot of films. Huper Optik automtoive films are either dyed or multi-layer ceramic, they do not do metallic in automotive films. Llumar Air Blue 80 is ceramic, 3M Crystaline is non-metallic, but I do not know if it's ceramic.

Voltrons_Head
04-21-2011, 01:38 PM
I gots my tintz last week. [:p]

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http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=img&q=http://zenstoves.net/PotAccessories/Rustoleum.jpg&sa=X&ei=tIewTbjqHdL2gAeRkPnwCw&ved=0CAQQ8wc4Lg&usg=AFQjCNFH8YWKUWcv7g7JWRE7Fk_94p8_1g

But seriously, I had no idea there were so many different film options. I'm trying to find a guy in the South Jersey/Philly area to get mine done.