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Jsmooth65
04-06-2011, 02:02 PM
Errrrrybody's doing a build thread, so why not.

My part list:
FrankenTurbos
AR inlets and bi-pipes
VAST fueling/tune
VAST/Bosch 044 fuel pump kit
ER Intercoolers
ebay ASI silicone hoses
VAST LWFW
VAST Stage 3 clutch
VAST high flow EFK
Maintenance parts (timing belt kit, o2 sensors, etc)


$8000 worth of parts in my bedroom.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2857.jpg


Car + workspace
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2847.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2848.jpg

Before shots of engine bay. I took alot of these in prep for my engine pull
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2850.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2852.jpg

After a few hours of work. This is as far as I've ever torn down this drivetrain before. From here on out its new territory for me.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2877.jpg

vhstejskal
04-06-2011, 02:03 PM
A lot of nice goodies... Good luck with the install...

DiscoPotato
04-06-2011, 03:22 PM
Here we gooo!! Sick build coming up.

Yesmar
04-06-2011, 03:48 PM
good luck man

chinaren
04-06-2011, 05:24 PM
Where are you going to have it tune at? Good luck

AudiS2
04-06-2011, 05:32 PM
Good luck with the build!!

AudiA4_20T
04-06-2011, 05:33 PM
what wheels are those?

NOTORIOUS VR
04-06-2011, 05:51 PM
woot! lots of builds happening! love it!

AudiSportB5S4
04-06-2011, 06:23 PM
$8000 worth of parts in my bedroom.

Hope you're sleeping with one eye open!

Congrats, will feel like a whole new car when you're done..

mightemouce
04-06-2011, 07:10 PM
Good luck should be a really fun car when your done


ps those are some sexy intercoolers you got there

JWatson
04-06-2011, 07:16 PM
subscribed!

tosh2.7
04-06-2011, 07:23 PM
win

ryandoka10
04-06-2011, 08:36 PM
Goodluck with the build man!

Marioh
04-06-2011, 11:05 PM
Subscribed dude... I'd love to get a ride when it's all done!

Dutchsider
04-06-2011, 11:06 PM
Always enjoy a good photo-heavy build thread [up]

ezfour
04-07-2011, 12:19 AM
That should be a badass setup, are you gonna get W/M?

Jsmooth65
04-07-2011, 01:03 AM
Stupidly forgot my camera at work today. Its ok though, tonight's work was pretty boring: disconnecting exhaust, drivelines, a/c. The fun part is putting it all back together with shiny stuff. Tomorrow/today (its 2 am here) I will be making a simple load leveler and yanking this sucker.

To answer some questions:

Tune is semi-custom remote tune from VAST using altitude/octane/fueling parameters.

Wheels are gunmetal ST120's.

I keep the parts in my bedroom so they can pleasure me on command. Especially my sexy intercoolers. No really, those ER's are huge, heavy, and beautiful.

I got the AR bi-pipes because they are tapped for meth, but that will be in the future.

Yes Mario, you can have a ride when I'm done.



Tomorrow is the big engine removal day, hopefully.

chebert69
04-07-2011, 04:54 AM
Always nice to see. Bring back good memories of my K04 install done last spring.
I enjoyed working on my car and i am proud that everything worked after doing the job :)
Enjoy !

alexverve
04-07-2011, 05:39 AM
is it me or your whole driver side covered in oil grease? leaking seals?

McGovs2.7TB5
04-07-2011, 06:16 AM
Subscribed dude... I'd love to get a ride when it's all done!

+1

Looks like its gonna be sweet

DRA4
04-07-2011, 08:38 AM
Great work but $8000, why not tial 605s?

mikehawk666
04-07-2011, 08:43 AM
Good luck with the build, you'll have to drive up to Denver to show us once it's done!

RolledMySTi
04-07-2011, 08:47 AM
We can always use another stage 3 laser. Good luck with her.

1sadavant
04-07-2011, 10:38 AM
Great work but $8000, why not tial 605s?

Better question: why tials?

sjmelling
04-07-2011, 10:44 AM
Future Stage III Laser FTW! I'll be following this one

alexverve
04-07-2011, 11:07 AM
Great work but $8000, why not tial 605s?

how much is a Tial 605 kit these days? turbos/inlets/fueling/tune?

NOTORIOUS VR
04-07-2011, 11:18 AM
Great work but $8000, why not tial 605s?

Maybe you should rethink what you're asking here. If you think you can get everything in his pic + 605's for $8k, I'm all ears.

alexverve
04-07-2011, 12:09 PM
Errrrrybody's doing a build thread, so why not.

My part list:
FrankenTurbos
AR inlets and bi-pipes
VAST fueling/tune
VAST/Bosch 044 fuel pump kit
ER Intercoolers
ebay ASI silicone hosesVAST LWFW
VAST Stage 3 clutch
VAST high flow EFK
Maintenance parts (timing belt kit, o2 sensors, etc)


$8000 worth of parts in my bedroom.
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if it is not too late, upgrade to real Samco kit. i went cheaper way on hoses by getting some VENAIR hoses, saved ~$150-180. TBB went after 3 month - put back my used Samco. Driver side Upper IC hose cracked a bit 6 month later. 1.5hr labor to fix it (required removing headlight). there went my savings... and still not sure how rest will hold on. so to have a clear mind, i would highly reccomend Samco kit. $$$ but worth it.

Jsmooth65
04-07-2011, 12:12 PM
if it is not too late, upgrade to real Samco kit. i went cheaper way on hoses by getting some European hoses (forgot name), saved ~$150-180. TBB went after 3 month - put back my used Samco. Driver side Upper IC hose cracked a bit 6 month later. 1.5hr labor to fix it (required removing headlight). there went my savings... and still not sure how rest will hold on. so to have a clear mind, i would highly reccomend Samco kit. $$$ but worth it.

I've got a Samco TBB already, which I am re-using. The other ones are super easy to replace if need be. It takes 30 seconds to remove a headlight, btw.

alexverve
04-07-2011, 12:24 PM
Maybe you should rethink what you're asking here. If you think you can get everything in his pic + 605's for $8k, I'm all ears.

a lot of people who never went Stage 3 seems to have impression that Stage 3 kit is all they need. In reality, all the supporting mods (proper ones) + maintanence u do with engine out + suprises u get with engine out more often than not end up costing at least as much as kit itself. in many cases quiet a bit more. and i am not even going to talk about labor $$$...
i think rough formula for going Stage 3 should be Price of Stage 3 kit x3. That is the money u have to spend (if done at a shop) if u start from scratch... and then be happy if final number is bellow that.
ps: that is not counting brakes or suspsension upgrade.

alexverve
04-07-2011, 12:28 PM
I've got a Samco TBB already, which I am re-using. The other ones are super easy to replace if need be. It takes 30 seconds to remove a headlight, btw.

they might be with engine out, but with engine in? uppers - headligths, lower bumper. and the ones on the turbos, don't u need to drop subframe to get a full access to them?
doing boost leak test every 6 month cause u "think" u r having a leak ads up as well... :-)

Yesmar
04-07-2011, 12:35 PM
na man just remove the headlight is all, and jack the front of the car upto get the 4 under neath, leave the bumber and everything on. iv done it quite a few times

VAST
04-07-2011, 12:41 PM
Thanks for the order with us OP! Glad to see everything arrived and it's already in the process of being installed [up]

Let us know if you need any help, you can always call the shop.. Once you get it running and the clutch broken in be sure to get some logs for us. [drive]

Thanks again,

DRA4
04-07-2011, 01:10 PM
a lot of people who never went Stage 3 seems to have impression that Stage 3 kit is all they need. In reality, all the supporting mods (proper ones) + maintanence u do with engine out + suprises u get with engine out more often than not end up costing at least as much as kit itself. in many cases quiet a bit more. and i am not even going to talk about labor $$$...
i think rough formula for going Stage 3 should be Price of Stage 3 kit x3. That is the money u have to spend (if done at a shop) if u start from scratch... and then be happy if final number is bellow that.
ps: that is not counting brakes or suspsension upgrade.

Understood, i will make sure to take care of all supporting mods before getting the kit.

s4boost
04-07-2011, 01:11 PM
whats your address?

Jsmooth65
04-07-2011, 11:52 PM
Another night finished. Engine is out. Broke a few things because I am dumb. Nothing too bad though. Here are some progress pics.

Took some more front stuff out to get to other stuff, mainly to remove A/C compressor
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2878.jpg

A/C system set aside and in tact
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2879.jpg

Hoist in place and homemade load bar and chain
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2880.jpg

Makeshift transmission jack
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2881.jpg

Voila!
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2883.jpg

Engine bay
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2884.jpg

Uh oh, I broke the damn slave
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2885.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2886.jpg

I broke these heater core parts whilst removing the hoses from them. They were really brittle.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2887.jpg

Here are some shots I like to see when engines are out.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2894.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2895.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2896.jpg

I took my downpipes off
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2898.jpg

turbine pic
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2899.jpg

Turbo compare
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2902.jpg



Well, that was it for tonight. FYI this engine has 175k miles on it with original K03's. I am pretty OCD when it comes to parts cleaning, so this is going to take awhile to restore, due to an oil leak somewhere.

For anyone considering taking on this challenge: plan on breaking shit. I've already broken about $300 in random crap. Plus the wiring sounds like dry spaghetti noodles, which I will have to address. Also, plan on getting wet. Every damn hose seems to release an ocean of coolant. Look at my garage floor in these pics.

Since I have to order a few parts, I am going to take my time here. Paint some stuff. nite.

mhorsfield89
04-07-2011, 11:58 PM
lol looks like oil was leaking for some time down that one side its gonna look nice all cleaned up

Anthony
04-08-2011, 12:16 AM
So far so good! [wrench]

Keep it up and this baby will be moved on over to the Projects & Builds Subforum (http://www.audizine.com/forum/forumdisplay.php/161) before ya know it!

highspeeds4
04-08-2011, 12:19 AM
How did your K03's feel, any play? Looks like you had one mean valve cover gasket leak.

Jsmooth65
04-08-2011, 12:24 AM
How did your K03's feel, any play? Looks like you had one mean valve cover gasket leak.

Felt smooth and good. I wasn't doing the build due to broken K03's, so I'm not surprised. If anything, it gives hope to those with high mileage on K03. FWIW, I was "chipped" (10secS4 ECU) for about 75k miles. Pulled like a train all 75k miles.

Jsmooth65
04-08-2011, 12:30 AM
Also, can anyone tell me the part number of the heater system part I broke?? It's where the heater hoses go through the cowl.

mightemouce
04-08-2011, 06:34 AM
It looks like you forgot to take the clip out from the slave cylinder line to take it out and the coolant lines that you broke go to the heater core I'm not sure if you need a whole heater core now or if they sell just the lines to it. I think there is a parts manual somewhere online

joespaman
04-08-2011, 08:20 AM
You're gonna need on of these......

HEATER CORE (http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=jg4m0a45jrgmih45lgymuxqe&makeid=800002@Audi&modelid=1368233@S4%20&year=2001&cid=24@AC%20%26%20Heat%20-%20Climate%20Control&gid=6864@Heater%20Core)

Jsmooth65
04-08-2011, 08:44 AM
Yeah, I found the picture on etka. Doh! At least the part is cheap. Since I busted my slave, I might as well get the metal one, too, right?

BJ Thomas
04-08-2011, 08:48 AM
Pretty sure you need the whole heater core as posted above. I have pulled more then a few b5 dash assy. in my day to do evap. replacments. It is by no means fun but not impossible. Just take your time and dont forget the 10mm bolt that is behind the battery facing upwards towards the dash.

Great build.

I hope to install my FT-4HBT's next week in my A6. I have a lift in my personal shop and will just drop the sub-frame and front suspension on to my electric lift table and then lift the car straight up off of it using the side post lift. This is how we did it at the audi dealership and makes it less likely to break little stuff as you have unfortantly found out the hard way.

GL

NOTORIOUS VR
04-08-2011, 10:14 AM
Pretty sure you need the whole heater core as posted above.

Yup the HC needs to be replaced... something even I dread having to do.... has to be one of the worst jobs.

Jsmooth65
04-09-2011, 10:43 PM
Saturday night update.

I put an order in for the heater core and clutch slave.

So Friday and Saturday I disconnected the transmission

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2903.jpg

removed the flywheel and clutch

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2904.jpg


Old and new flywheel. The LWFW feels WAAAY lighter.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2919.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2920.jpg

Old and new clutch
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2921.jpg



removed the intake manifold and fueling
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2910.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2913.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2914.jpg


the wiring harness
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2909.jpg


and the timing belt and components.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2916.jpg

Vatozone waterpump I installed 50k miles ago looks and feels good still
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2915.jpg


Also, one of my 034 motor mounts have silver looking goo on the top of it, looks like anti-sieze. Can they leak? Time for Stern mounts?
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2922.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2923.jpg

Also, this hose from the D/S block to the turbo looks funny to me. What do you guys think? Get one from a wrecker? Is it ok?
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2924.jpg


Threw some black engine paint on my intake
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2918.jpg


So, the engine is completely bare now, and ready for cleaning. This should be not fun. Then I can install all my new cam and valve cover seals and new timing belt stuff.

Had to go to the dealership today to pick up some parts I ordered. I was covered in grease head to toe. Its always fun to go in there and see all the sleazy salesmen and pretentious buyers shit a brick when a grundgy dude walks in for parts. Of course the ETKA didn't have the right bolts I was looking for and I had to have the "i don't care what your screen says, I need THIS bolt, go find it!" discussion with the parts guy.

jibberjive
04-10-2011, 02:15 AM
Nice OP. Your laser is going to look sick with those new wheels!


Also, can anyone tell me the part number of the heater system part I broke?? It's where the heater hoses go through the cowl.

You might want to check these out

http://a763.g.akamai.net/7/763/1644/3/app.infopia.com/img/image/fp/VPID/8914935
http://www.intengineering.com/Billet-Aluminum-Heater-p8914935-1-2.html



Also, this hose from the D/S block to the turbo looks funny to me. What do you guys think? Get one from a wrecker? Is it ok?
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2924.jpg

No reason to not replace it when it's a part that your new turbos depend on. I'd swap it out if I were you.



Thanks for the order with us OP! Glad to see everything arrived and it's already in the process of being installed [up]

Let us know if you need any help, you can always call the shop.. Once you get it running and the clutch broken in be sure to get some logs for us. [drive]

Thanks again,

Get back to me about those engine parts if you would, cause I've got to start assembly asap, so if I'm not going to get them from you I'm going to have to get them from somewhere real soon.

BomarFab
04-10-2011, 01:37 PM
Nice build thread, I am thinking about doing the FT soon too.

Jsmooth65
04-10-2011, 06:25 PM
OK block is all cleaned up, 2 cans of degreaser and 3 cans of brake cleaner later. Now that I have my valve covers off, I thought I would check my timing chains, etc. I have a concern. I've had the crank lock pin since I started this whole project. So crank hasn't moved at all. At one point during timing belt disassembly, the cam lock bar slipped off the drivers side cam causing the passenger cam to turn clockwise about 60 degrees or so. However many degrees it felt comfortably moving to, because of the valve springs. I calmly just turned the cam with the lock bar back to TDC and relocked it into place. This happened before on a previous timing belt change with no problems afterward. I didn't crank any pistons into it or anything, so I think its ok. So here's the concern:

Block with cam lock bar installed and crank pin. Everything should be TDC.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2925.jpg

Drivers side cam chain. See arrows and notches line up good and there's the 16 points between
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2935.jpg

Now the passenger side:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2936.jpg


Passenger side doesn't look like the drivers side. Before I start taking crap apart here, I just wanted to see you guys' input on this.

jibberjive
04-10-2011, 09:07 PM
That's definitely not 16 links...

Jsmooth65
04-10-2011, 09:22 PM
OK looks like the cam adjuster on the passenger side is not holding pressure, so it looks like the timing is off.

jibberjive
04-10-2011, 09:47 PM
That sucks, cause the cam adjuster is crazy expensive. Go new if you don't want to have any worries, but for the price of a new cam adjuster you can almost buy a complete set of two used heads (complete with adjusters).

Jsmooth65
04-10-2011, 10:44 PM
I know, right? If I pry up on the cam adjuster piston, the exhaust cam rotates to the correct position. It just goes back down when I let go. I can't budge the drivers side adjuster.

I figured I would have some issues with a 175k mile engine. I'd rather replace the adjuster while the engine is on my floor, than when it is in the car.

jibberjive
04-10-2011, 10:51 PM
The adjusters definitely aren't known to be he-man, and if you push them too far or too fast with the compressor tool, the seals can get ruined. If yours have 175k mi, then I'd say that's no surprise one is bad. Independent of the tensioner though, those cams need to have the correct amount of links between them when aligned with the arrows on the cam caps.

Sscott09
04-10-2011, 11:33 PM
Cant wait to see some numbers.

Jsmooth65
04-16-2011, 09:53 PM
So the engine is still on the floor. I am patiently awaiting my chain tensioner. Hopefully it will arrive early this week. Meanwhile, alot of other stuff arrived and I've been busy cleaning and installing stuff.

I got the drivers head all sealed up, turbos installed with horizontal inlet portion, exhaust mani gaskets installed, new motor mounts, flywheel, new coolant pipe o-rings, timing stuff, etc.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2937.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2938.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2940.jpg

Got the clutch and SAC on
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2939.jpg


Tranny all cleaned up, got my new slave in, and I put in a new plastic socket. Funny thing, I bought the new socket and red boot when I first got the car 4 years ago and was buying stuff for it, not realizing the royal pita it is to get to that linkage. Its been sitting on my shelf since.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2941.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2942.jpg

Intake mani installed
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2943.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2944.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2945.jpg


Well thats the current situation. I have my new heater core in hand, so tomorow I will probably tear apart the dash and install that, and also the 044 fuel pump.

97B518TQM
04-17-2011, 11:10 AM
Great progress so far. It's always the unexpected things that get you with these builds.

Jsmooth65
04-17-2011, 11:16 AM
I don't know if you realize this but the broken tubes on the heater core will cost you a LOT of time. I'd rather pull my engine out again than replace my heater core.

Yeah I've seen the writeup. It looks absolutely painful.

BlakMarketKlash
04-17-2011, 12:34 PM
Those lock bars always want to slip off the driver side i find.

Dubluv11
04-17-2011, 02:25 PM
my question is why would those heater core hoses get all corroded and rotten like that??
assuming distilled water and the proper g12 coolant was used shouldnt those components stay intact??
that REALLY scares me alot

tosh2.7
04-17-2011, 02:35 PM
OK block is all cleaned up, 2 cans of degreaser and 3 cans of brake cleaner later. Now that I have my valve covers off, I thought I would check my timing chains, etc. I have a concern. I've had the crank lock pin since I started this whole project. So crank hasn't moved at all. At one point during timing belt disassembly, the cam lock bar slipped off the drivers side cam causing the passenger cam to turn clockwise about 60 degrees or so. However many degrees it felt comfortably moving to, because of the valve springs. I calmly just turned the cam with the lock bar back to TDC and relocked it into place. This happened before on a previous timing belt change with no problems afterward. I didn't crank any pistons into it or anything, so I think its ok. So here's the concern:

Block with cam lock bar installed and crank pin. Everything should be TDC.

Passenger side doesn't look like the drivers side. Before I start taking crap apart here, I just wanted to see you guys' input on this.

If I were you, I wouldv'e installed the timing belt and re-checked. If you drained the oil(like suppose too) and as stated the p/s cam moved, oil pressure would be lost from tensioner. Its happened to me a couple times on 2.8L passat motors, but believe me doing now would save you sometime if it decided to go later on with everything together. great build and goodluck with that heater core. there always fun[>_<]

BJ Thomas
04-18-2011, 06:23 AM
Are you having fun yet pulling the dash? [headbang]

BlkBullitt
04-18-2011, 06:54 AM
Looking good! Since you're changing out the cam tensioner and the engine is out did you replace all of the head related oil seals/gaskets (cam seals, cam plugs, cam chain tensioner gaskets, valve cover gaskets)?

Jsmooth65
04-18-2011, 08:03 AM
I'm not sure why the heater core would corrode so badly, except for maybe the age/mileage factor. I decided to forego the heater core job for awhile. I am thinking about just bypassing the core until next fall! Its warm out again...

Instead of the heater, I went with the fuel pump job. Breathing gasoline vapors and trying to get that basket in and out of there is a PITA. More of a PITA than I remember reading about.

And yes, I do have the full cam/valve cover seal kit and the drivers side is all sealed up now, and I get my used tensioner tonight, so I will have the passenger side sealed up tonight as well.

Jsmooth65
04-18-2011, 10:14 PM
here is a pic of the vast 044 pump vs stock pump
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2946.jpg
transfered the top part.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2947.jpg

I haven't got the basket seated into the tank yet, I gave up last night after too much vapors. I will try again tomorrow.
Tonight I got the cam tensioner replaced and the cams properly timed. It wasn't that difficult, just a little awkward trying to get it lined up. Sealed up the valve covers. When sealing up the outside bearing caps, I put some black gasket stuff on the metal-metal contact like it says in Bentley. I didn't do it on the drivers side head. I only put the sealant on the corners. Think it will be ok?

Also got the timing belt on. Did it the "proper way" with the cam sprockets off and then tightened down under tension. Belt turns smooth like butter (no spark plugs, lol).
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2952.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2953.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2954.jpg

Final pic of the night before shutting off lights. Won't be long now.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2955.jpg

highspeeds4
04-18-2011, 11:51 PM
Looks great bro.

Subbing for vid of completion

Jsmooth65
04-25-2011, 09:18 AM
I installed the heater core finally. Took about 7 hours start to finish, including a trip to car parts store for a M12 triple square (for the steering wheel) cuz I lost mine. Its a ROYAL PITA, but not impossible. At least there are only 3 kinds of screws/bolts, just about 50 of each. Here is a pic of the broken heater core about to be extracted. You can see it in the middle of the picture.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2961.jpg

Comparison of OEM vs $36 one from ECS. Its a Febi, by the way, and the OEM is a Behr. Not really much difference, I think 1 more row in the OEM one. Not worth $100 extra IMHO.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2962.jpg

Yay, I can connect my heater hoses and get this bastard engine put back in.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2963.jpg

AudiA4_20T
04-25-2011, 09:48 AM
gotta love cars. The OEM stuff takes longer than mods sometimes ha

Condo
04-25-2011, 10:32 AM
Wow that looks like a complete bitch. I broke off part of the heater core connections on my build but was lucky enough that that hoses still fit. Just had to move the clamps back a little.

AudiHolicS4
04-25-2011, 12:13 PM
If I were you, I wouldv'e installed the timing belt and re-checked. If you drained the oil(like suppose too) and as stated the p/s cam moved, oil pressure would be lost from tensioner. Its happened to me a couple times on 2.8L passat motors, but believe me doing now would save you sometime if it decided to go later on with everything together. great build and goodluck with that heater core. there always fun[>_<]

This!!! I would install the timing belt and just rock the crank bsck and forth a little to see if the tensioner will pop back up being that when u need slack on the chain to change the gaskets u rock it so the tensioner goes up and down

Jsmooth65
04-25-2011, 12:31 PM
This!!! I would install the timing belt and just rock the crank bsck and forth a little to see if the tensioner will pop back up being that when u need slack on the chain to change the gaskets u rock it so the tensioner goes up and down

Oh I forgot to mention the plastic seat was cracked in half on it. I don't know if it was already there or I did it while fuxoring with it, but I figured I would just replace the whole unit. My nerves feel waay better after just replacing it and making sure I had the proper amount of links between the notches.

panix73
04-25-2011, 02:29 PM
It's hard not to get so involved and do EVERYTHING, but with a motor that has 175k, I'd be a little weary of dropping coin on a turbo upgrade before replacing all engine bearings. God forbid you spin a bearing and contaminate the entire oiling system with metallurgy, you'll not only find yourself overhauling the whole engine, but you'll be out on two CHRA's for your turbochargers as well.

I know your engine is pretty much all together at this point and there is probably no going back to rebuild it all, but if you plan on keeping this engine for a little while longer before pulling her out once again, I would at least recommend you replace the rear main seal, which looks like is leaking in the below pic. Replacing the head gaskets for good compression sake might not be a bad idea either, considering you can only do so with the engine removed from the car and those new turbos will be cramming wayyyy more air into the combustion chambers as opposed to before.. Just some food for thought.. Hope for all the best..

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2904.jpg

30V
04-26-2011, 11:27 AM
Dude! That heater core R&R is out of hand.

BTW, you should have said something and borrowed the engine stand too.

WMi_S4
04-26-2011, 07:15 PM
It's hard not to get so involved and do EVERYTHING, but with a motor that has 175k, I'd be a little weary of dropping coin on a turbo upgrade before replacing all engine bearings. God forbid you spin a bearing and contaminate the entire oiling system with metallurgy, you'll not only find yourself overhauling the whole engine, but you'll be out on two CHRA's for your turbochargers as well.

I know your engine is pretty much all together at this point and there is probably no going back to rebuild it all, but if you plan on keeping this engine for a little while longer before pulling her out once again, I would at least recommend you replace the rear main seal, which looks like is leaking in the below pic. Replacing the head gaskets for good compression sake might not be a bad idea either, considering you can only do so with the engine removed from the car and those new turbos will be cramming wayyyy more air into the combustion chambers as opposed to before.. Just some food for thought.. Hope for all the best..

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2904.jpg

Kind of my thinking as well. The only way I would slap bigger turbo's on a high mileage engine like that is if I ran them very conservatively, say 18 psi and not push the setup like many people do.

But, by the time you start tearing the motor apart and replacing bearings, rings, valves, gaskets etc then you might as well throw rods in at the very least and upgrade to 605's or RS6's. Or better yet, a full build w/ GTs :)

GL with everything, build looks good so far!

Jsmooth65
04-27-2011, 12:33 AM
Believe me I've though about all these "since the engine is out" scenarios you guys are bringing up. If money was no object, I would've done a complete engine rebuild and the biggest GT kit I could get my hands on. Unfortunately, money is an object and I went with what I wanted most, for the most reasonable price.

Back to the build:

proof that I indeed got that mess of a dash back together:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2966.jpg





And tonight the engine is officially back in its rightful position. Next few days will include lots of wiring, vacuum, and fueling work, leading up to the engine start. It snowed like 3 inches tonight, so I'm kind of glad this has taken awhile and I've put off the summer tires....
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2964.jpg

30V
04-27-2011, 09:54 AM
So what are you doing in your spare time?

Don Supreme
04-27-2011, 10:03 AM
Let me know if the interior rattles and squeaks like a mofo after this repair.

MDJ
04-27-2011, 10:13 AM
Subscribed dude... I'd love to get a ride when it's all done!

I don't know you, but I second that. I'm also really bored on sundays and weekdays after 1. If you need a hand I'd love to help out!

PM me of you like beer. Ha!

bmoreS4
04-27-2011, 08:12 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2937.jpg

Looks good man.

This is one sexy picture [evilsmile]

blackjak
04-27-2011, 09:17 PM
Beautiful work being done here.

Jsmooth65
04-30-2011, 01:23 AM
Got my new summer tires mounted on the new wheels
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2967.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2968.jpg



Got one IC on. I'm having a hard time finding all the right hose clamps. But here's how far I got. All I have left to do before starting is the other IC, the fuel filter, coolant fill. All the little stuff is taking forever. Also, I filled it with oil a couple of days ago and I can see one of the oil return lines is leaking where it meets the oil pan. Gotta call the stealership and get a new o-ring, bummer.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2970.jpg

MDJ
04-30-2011, 06:58 AM
Oh man...looks sweet, dude! What tires did you go with and have you used them before? I'm going to need a new set in a month or so and am just trying to gather info...I HATE road noise, though. Pretty quiet?

Jsmooth65
04-30-2011, 09:24 AM
These tires are Bridgestone RE760 Sport 225/40R18. I have NO idea how they are going to sound, since its my first time getting them. They were buy 3 get 1 free at Firestone. I'm ok with road noise though, seeing how the wheels/tires I took off to put these on were studded Pirelli Winter Carving tires. Thats a noisy tire, lol.

tosh2.7
04-30-2011, 12:10 PM
coming together real well for you. Glad to see you didnt wait to install the heater core. Wouldve sucked royally if you had waited til it got cold. Im currently saving for frankens as well. More log results the better

Jsmooth65
05-01-2011, 01:05 AM
2am update. Got the rear brakes done and the new wheels/rubber put on. Its gonna look good I think.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2973.jpg


Got the passenger IC on as well.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2974.jpg

All that was left at this point was the fuel filter and the EFK on the front clip. Took care of both of those things, and here's the result (after 60 total seconds of no fuel priming, and burping the power steering system)
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/th_MVI_2975.jpg (http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/?action=view&current=MVI_2975.mp4)


Success! Now I need to make sure the clutch works. Also, current problems that need to be sorted: no instrument cluster power, coolant leak from rear heat pipe somewhere. Hopefully those are easy to fix.

Quattro_2.7tt
05-01-2011, 12:37 PM
Looks great! Cant wait to see it running!

Jsmooth65
05-01-2011, 09:40 PM
SO CLOSE!

I found my coolant leak at the passenger side coolant temp sensor. I used a new o-ring and new sensor, but I somehow mashed the new o-ring funny causing the leak. I happened to have another one (bought a ton of them from ECS years ago for no reason), and problem solved. Instrument cluster came back on after unplugging and plugging the purple plug. Dunno what the problem was. The oil leak from the oil return line from the passenger turbo still haunts me a little. I replaced the o-ring on the return line, but I think the aluminum sleeve that goes between the oil pan and the return line is what is fuxored. It looks ok though. I am going to just leave it alone and see what happens, its not that bad a leak.

Bumper and all the front stuff installed
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2977.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2980.jpg

Does everyone's EFK look this close to the serpentine belt? Its a tad concerning..
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2978.jpg


Got the exhaust and driveshaft attached and lowered the rear end. All I have left to take her on the road is install my new lower control arms and install the half shafts.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2981.jpg

I let her idle for awhile today and checked codes. Only code I am getting is an ABS code (no ABS light though). I have a 2000 model without traction control, but I have a file from VAST. Think I got coded for traction control? Hmmm.

skinnytirez
05-02-2011, 07:28 AM
more likely has something to do with the abs sensors you most likely unplugged when you pulled the upper control arm pinch bolt to remove the half shafts...
build looks good!
We better get at least one video out of this!

DiscoPotato
05-02-2011, 08:02 AM
Your engine bay is hawtt

Rocket SLC
05-02-2011, 08:45 AM
Yeah, nice work on the engine clean-up. Cant wait to hear how this runs after a good tune. Keep it up!

30V
05-04-2011, 08:50 AM
Must be too busy doing donuts and carving up canyons to post an update.?

Jsmooth65
05-04-2011, 09:10 AM
My hands hurt too much to type!

Nothing exciting. I got the front cv-shafts and suspension cleaned up and back together last night.

I have the Vogtland coilovers and 034 adjustable control arms, both about a year old now. I lowered the coilover setting for summer last night and went to extend my control arms and they are all sorts of siezed up. Really really annoying. I got a couple turns out on the longer ones, but the shorter ones are NOT moving without coming off the car. I didn't want to do that, so I just left them. Hopefully the alignment shop will be able to get it right and not charge me a bazillion dollars for extra labor.

I closed the hood and saw my bumper/carrier is not lined up to my satisfaction, so I will need to adjust that tonight. The ER intercoolers create so many problems with fitment, its crazy. But tonight should be the night I drive it out of the garage...

Yesmar
05-04-2011, 09:58 AM
Excellent man, good work!

30V
05-04-2011, 10:38 AM
Good to hear. Ready for a beer yet? I am buying this time.

awd2ks4
05-04-2011, 11:07 AM
Looks great! Sweet custom intake u made too, but my efk isn't that close. Make sure u got enough space for when the engine torques

Jsmooth65
05-04-2011, 11:12 AM
Looks great! Sweet custom intake u made too, but my efk isn't that close. Make sure u got enough space for when the engine torques

Its the VAST intake from their fueling kit.

I think the EFK will be ok, because when the engine torques, its going to move itself away from the belt. I HOPE!

Jsmooth65
05-04-2011, 10:41 PM
Drove that sonbitch tonight. Looks great, sounds great, feels great from what I can tell. I stayed out of boost for the short tour around my neighborhood, I just wanted to make sure the damn car stayed together. Shifted great. The LWFW chatter is a new sound to me, got my nerves up a bit when I heard it. Will take some getting used to. My drive to work is all highway for about 6 miles at 75mph. I'll take pictures in the daytime of the new wheels.

I'm tuned for an MBC, but I have no idea what setting to start at physically on the thing. Halfway in/out?

ezfour
05-04-2011, 11:26 PM
Nice job. Congrats! Have been debating a FT build myself. Looks like everything went smooth other than the heater [:)]

Mr. Merk
05-05-2011, 05:13 AM
I'm tuned for an MBC, but I have no idea what setting to start at physically on the thing. Halfway in/out?

WHOA! Start out, never ever turn it down assuming anything, I did that once & blew a headgasket. Start with it mostly unscrewed and make single turns at a time, at most.

Jsmooth65
05-07-2011, 01:30 PM
She's all cleaned up and on the road. Here's some pics. I think the clutch is broke-in enough for some 3rd gear run logs. I will try and generate them this weekend while adjusting my MBC to my desired boost. I already blew my 034 TBB off boosting 20 psi earlier, so that was fun. I hope its super tight now.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2982.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2983.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2984.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2985.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2986.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2987.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/IMG_2988.jpg

AudiA4_20T
05-07-2011, 01:35 PM
Awesome

Aphex350
05-07-2011, 01:36 PM
Congrats brudda, it's show time!

sherbet
05-07-2011, 03:25 PM
Looks real clean! Let's see some vids!

Sscott09
05-10-2011, 08:47 AM
I cant wait to see some vids, times or numbers from this thing!

AudiSportB5S4
05-10-2011, 09:24 AM
I already blew my 034 TBB off boosting 20 psi earlier, so that was fun.

That will keep blowing off until you buy a SAMCO. I have had a handful of friends blow their TBB off multiple times.

Also, when you need help with the logs, e-mail me in my signature. I'll walk you through anything if you need a hand! [up]

ezfour
05-10-2011, 09:56 AM
Schwing![wrench] Car looks great man

dannyn424
05-10-2011, 10:15 AM
my ebay one blew off and smoke started to come out i pulled over n tightened it.... bought the 034 tbbw clamp kit ... fits so much better... i dont know how it could pop off now.. the clamps they give you are pretty wide.... my dad tried yanking on the tbb and it didnt budge.....

30vQuattro
05-10-2011, 10:30 AM
Nice build man! Get some pull vids up soon!! make sure you check your oil level often and take a peek under the car to see how that's going... I hate the tbb boot with a passion so I bent over and bought an apr bipipe.. it was worth it :p

Jsmooth65
05-10-2011, 10:38 AM
Thanks for the comments. So far so good after 300 miles. No more TBB blow offs. I haven't had alot of time to mess with logs and my MBC, but hopefully this week I can get some done. Still getting used to how sensitive the clutch is from a standstill into first gear. My old one was so loose, it was almost impossible to stall!

And yeah that oil leak is just collecting in my panzer plate. I couldn't really tell if it was coming from the turbo oil return line/oil pan connection or the oil pan itself. I replaced the o-ring on the turbo oil return line but when I pulled out the line, the aluminum sleeve in the oil pan came out with it. Can that part be replaced? Its not on any of the ETKA diagrams I've seen. I put it back in and then reattached the oil return line, and I tightened up the oil pan bolts around there a sliver for good measure. Maybe that sleeve needs some heat cycles to seal again? That's kind of where I am with that.

I will take some in-car videos if the car boosting, and then some stationary drive-aways, when I get the chance.

Yesmar
05-10-2011, 11:10 AM
great man, yeah, my samco tbb blew off before .the silicone ones are just so slippery and once they get hot enough they’ll just slide right off. i wish they mad them with the same shape as the oem ones that have like a spot tray type thing for the clamps. ever since then i think the only reasonable solution is like the apr bipipe one. the rs4's cam with a nice metal tbb. whenever i go stage 3 im definitely going to incorporate one into my plans. mines been blowing off and im only stage2 pushing 16 17psi, but it only happens on really hot days. :/

good to see your up and running :)

Hyphy
05-10-2011, 11:37 AM
Nice! That's NICE!

Schoolbus4
05-10-2011, 12:29 PM
nice job u did with the car Jsmooth65 looks like u had a lot of fun

Mr. Merk
05-10-2011, 02:14 PM
I will take some in-car videos if the car boosting, and then some stationary drive-aways, when I get the chance.

I think I speak for most everybody, we want videos of races, 1/4mi times & dyno #s

Mr. Merk
05-10-2011, 02:15 PM
please

jibberjive
05-11-2011, 03:21 AM
I already blew my 034 TBB off boosting 20 psi earlier, so that was fun. I hope its super tight now.
A trick that I learned from putting grips on my dirtbikes, spray some hairspray inside the TBB and on the TB before you slip it on. It acts like lube, but when it dries it's tacky and helps keep it on (and you can wipe it off the rest with water). Also, go to your local hose store and get a T-bolt clamp for the TBB, like $5.

maxxxs4
05-11-2011, 04:02 AM
A trick that I learned from putting grips on my dirtbikes, spray some hairspray inside the TBB and on the TB before you slip it on. It acts like lube, but when it dries it's tacky and helps keep it on (and you can wipe it off the rest with water). Also, go to your local hose store and get a T-bolt clamp for the TBB, like $5.

thanks for the tip ^^

speedlyte
05-11-2011, 08:48 AM
Awesome build. I'm having my mechanic do my Franken Turbo build. Except its been going on now 3 months from delays in parts to life. But he is a friend so I get the brotherhood discount. Either way awesome car and great job bro.

30V
05-11-2011, 10:07 AM
I will take some in-car videos if the car boosting, and then some stationary drive-aways, when I get the chance.

I got one of these that your car might be able to smoke now...
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2001/09/092701side8.jpg
It is a pretty much stock 954.

Let me know if the engine stand fits in the S4 and if you want to head North.

gdo59
05-11-2011, 09:11 PM
let use know how good the frankenturbos are.

nthusiastt
05-11-2011, 09:32 PM
Beautiful car man. Congrats and enjoy in good health!

Jsmooth65
05-11-2011, 11:12 PM
Hey everyone, its snowed the past 2 days and I haven't been able to do any logs.

I need to get some done for VAST so they can fine tune this thing, so I will do/post some soon.

s4boost
05-14-2011, 10:20 PM
HURRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. wanna see a vid!

odhinnhrafn
05-14-2011, 10:50 PM
Nice build man! Glad to see it all came together! Can't wait to see logs! MDJ, as for those tires, I have those exact ones on my S4 right now, with coilovers, and there's a bit more road noise than I'm used to, but the grip on those things is worth it, imo. A stickier, lower profile tire is always gonna be a bit noisy, just no avoiding it... They're great tires, though.

Jsmooth65
05-28-2011, 09:15 PM
So, did I mention this car is my wife's daily driver? LOL Its taken me awhile to get some logs and vids. I am still sorting out random issues.

Here are some logs I took today and am sending to VAST:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/boostlog1.jpg



Here is a video of idle surging. Could this be caused by me just capping off the PCV valve portion of the f-hose and spider?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbGeKmesKQE



Here is a video boosting onto the highway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CztSZyAipg



At >12psi the turbos emit a scraping/grinding sound that I'm not sure is ok. Gets worse when the engine heats up. Any ideas? It may just be normal, but I've never really heard it on videos and stuff I've seen.

mecham
05-29-2011, 10:04 PM
holy crap..just saw this thread. you are in Castle Rock...how long did it take for you to pull the engine // do upgrades - the stuff you broke?

im thinking about franken and vast 3 kit myself. but was going to have Avalon do the work.

also what rims are those?

and what are you doing for a downpipe?

looks like you are getting only 16psi? thought they were for like 22-24psi?

Jsmooth65
05-29-2011, 11:08 PM
Avalon told me they would only install fueling kit if I bought it from them.

These rims are ST120 from Sonic Tuning. $100 each :) and already got some rash but it doesn't feel as bad LOL

Downpipes are piggies. I will upgrade them next year.

The podi gauge and the Vag-com differ, maybe because of our altitude issue (I am at 5800 ft). I guess I should believe the vag-com, which is showing the 23 psi or so.

And this whole project took 1 month to get parts in hand after ordering, and 1 month to install/fix crap I broke.

mecham
05-29-2011, 11:25 PM
oh cool thanks for the info...btw im right down the street...sort of lol. Colorado Springs.
Im looking at getting rims like those in gunmetal for my noggy.

Don Supreme
05-30-2011, 06:50 AM
looks like you are getting only 16psi? thought they were for like 22-24psi?

ditto

DiscoPotato
05-30-2011, 07:19 AM
That podi gauge is gorgeous.

AudiSportB5S4
05-30-2011, 07:45 AM
ditto

Look at the requested boost graph he posted.. Maybe this is a Stage 3- ?

Jsmooth65
05-30-2011, 09:38 AM
Its a stage 3 with MBC

CELison
05-30-2011, 10:51 AM
As far as a scraping sound goes I have never heard any strange noises from my FTs. If you can somehow get the noise on video I would like to hear it. Im sure its nothing to worry about

odhinnhrafn
05-30-2011, 11:24 AM
Im sure its nothing to worry about

Famous last words of an S4 owner... :P

Dutchsider
05-30-2011, 11:52 AM
Famous last words of an S4 owner... :P

I giggled [:D]

DanS4
05-30-2011, 01:26 PM
So, did I mention this car is my wife's daily driver? LOL Its taken me awhile to get some logs and vids. I am still sorting out random issues.

Here are some logs I took today and am sending to VAST:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/boostlog1.jpg





Looks like it spools to 20psi aprox. the same or worse than it does on OEM k04's.

With a MBC as shown audisportb5s4 (mikes) k04's spool faster

Jsmooth65
05-30-2011, 01:57 PM
Looks like it spools to 20psi aprox. the same or worse than it does on OEM k04's.

With a MBC as shown audisportb5s4 (mikes) k04's spool faster

Note that I am at 5800 ft altitude, 91 Octane, 3rd gear pull on Revision 0.

DanS4
05-30-2011, 02:31 PM
Note that I am at 5800 ft altitude, 91 Octane, 3rd gear pull on Revision 0.

Point taken.

Car looks nice and I bet is alot of fun.

70 eliminator
05-30-2011, 04:55 PM
i am in monument and still trying to finish my franken build i live at 7300 ft so i will have to use some revisions to get it right i guess...

glad to see a local going pm me and i would love to pay for beer and go over the build so i dont miss anything on mine

Don Supreme
05-30-2011, 05:01 PM
2 responses from the OP, but no responses toward the questions about the ~16 psi on the gauge...... ?

Jsmooth65
05-30-2011, 06:31 PM
2 responses from the OP, but no responses toward the questions about the ~16 psi on the gauge...... ?

LOL, yeah sorry, the video was after I turned the MBC down a tad. When I did the logs, the boost gauge read like 19 psi, and Vag-Com read 22. When I had my GIAC stage 1 tune, the boost gauge would read like 14 psi. I attribute it to the eletronic stepper on the gauge being calibrated to sea level (atmospheric pressure here is 11.8 psi instead of 14.7)

jibberjive
05-30-2011, 08:10 PM
LOL, yeah sorry, the video was after I turned the MBC down a tad. When I did the logs, the boost gauge read like 19 psi, and Vag-Com read 22. When I had my GIAC stage 1 tune, the boost gauge would read like 14 psi. I attribute it to the eletronic stepper on the gauge being calibrated to sea level (atmospheric pressure here is 11.8 psi instead of 14.7)

What does either gauge read when the ACC is on, but the car isn't running?

Jsmooth65
05-30-2011, 08:32 PM
What does either gauge read when the ACC is on, but the car isn't running?

I took this before the install, but it shows the non-running reading on the gauge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCqYYr9Il6k

Vag-Com says 790 mBar

mikehawk666
05-30-2011, 08:53 PM
next time youre in denver, id love to see your car. PM your info and hopefully we can get together. i'm running BWk04s VAST 16psi and would love to see how we match up. beautiful car!!

s4boost
06-11-2011, 11:30 PM
any updates jsmooth?

Jsmooth65
06-12-2011, 05:34 PM
Nah. Still trying to find time to get my ECU flashed/revised. Still pulls like a mofo, but has some issues with stumbling every once in awhile and that noise.

Mantis
06-12-2011, 05:45 PM
I took this before the install, but it shows the non-running reading on the gauge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCqYYr9Il6k

Vag-Com says 790 mBar


Any possibility of calibrating that gauge, I am guessing you would like to know what boost pressure above actual atmosphere you are boosting, not boost pressure above sea level atmosphere.

In other words, if your gauge says you are hitting 21psi, I would guess you may actually be hitting closer to 24ish

Jsmooth65
06-12-2011, 07:16 PM
No, a mechanical gauge will work better. Maybe I can find a trade for my stepper....

Mantis
06-12-2011, 07:39 PM
That is exactly what I ended up doing, I had a Prosport peak/hold electronic stepper, but ended up going back to my trusty VDO mech gauge......

That was until I picked up my Zeitronix WB, and then added in the 5 bar MAP sensor, it allows you to calibrate zero from any given ambient conditions.

AudiSportB5S4
06-13-2011, 05:50 AM
I got rid of my Podi gauge for a VEI. They are among the most accurate gauges out there... I have the high resolution gauge that reads to the tenth PSI. I love it..

NOTORIOUS VR
06-13-2011, 05:57 AM
I had a Prosport peak/hold electronic stepper, but ended up going back to my trusty VDO mech gauge......

What didn't you like about your Prosport? I have the exact same gauge now for over 2 years... I love it.

Mantis
06-13-2011, 06:18 AM
What didn't you like about your Prosport? I have the exact same gauge now for over 2 years... I love it.

Nothing, great gauge, unfortunately I am at 4k ft, and the gauge was calibrated in Fla at sea level, they were not able to provide me info on how to properly recalibrate for the altitude

NOTORIOUS VR
06-13-2011, 06:23 AM
Makes sense :)

70 eliminator
12-13-2011, 07:48 PM
revised again yet?

Jsmooth65
12-14-2011, 01:25 PM
I think there was one more revision since I last updated. Also, I started misfiring like crazy at high boost. I got new coil packs and fixed that right up and was back to pulling like a freight train. Unfortunately, my rear end got hit, which totalled the car out. Its been in the body shop for a month now, but hopefully I get it back this week. Been driving the slow ass shop car, 2008 Cobalt. Frustratingly slow. Oh and I got a 96 Golf GTI VR6 off CL for $1500 as my new beater.

Jsmooth65
01-24-2012, 10:38 AM
So after getting rear ended in September and having the car in the body shop for 2 months, I finally got it back, albeit salvage titled.

Before
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/WP_000106.jpg

After
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c274/Jsmooth65/83B0.jpg

Today I ordered a tranny rebuild kit from Scotty and the upgraded linkage and bushing from JHM with the tranny video. Will be pulling the motor/tranny out in the next couple of weeks to do this work. While I am in there I will inspect the turbos to see if I can see any evidence of that noise I've been hearing since day 1.

sherbet
01-24-2012, 10:58 AM
Very nice, the euro rear looks awesome! How many miles on the Frankens?

Jsmooth65
01-24-2012, 12:43 PM
13k miles on the frankens so far. Aside from that noise I've heard from day 1, they've been great. Pull a good 25 psi every time I ask her to.

AWDLAUNCH
04-11-2012, 09:47 AM
I'm looking at getting these. Are you still happy with them?

audiguys4
05-20-2012, 10:05 PM
i have pretty much the same setup. any idea what hp/tq your at? i was door to door with an srt-10 viper the other day which i was very surprised..