REICH 3L from GURU with 770R & tip to 6S swap build

[Reich]

So like most of you probably know. I did my tranny swap.
But since i was there, I was looking to transform my engine to a 3L. Sherif had 2.8L heads and Guru had the crank at that time.
Sudenly, Guruman told me that his engine was for sale. After thinking for a while, i took the decision. I bought Dom's engine.
Not because i don't want nor i can't do the job ( I' ve been working for Cummins engine since the begining of 96.) I' ve probably rebuild more engines than any tuners around here. But the idea behind buying Guru's engine is to save some time. Especially when you have a familly and a wife that was starting to get pissed of because i'm always in garage.
After all. After seen Guru's engine which is well documented in here AZ, I knew at this time that i couldn't go wrong.


Now after spending soooo much money on the car i thought that i could keep the turbos that i had and save for next year or two years to swap for
bigger turbos. So i decide to tune the turbos i have which flows 28lbs min and take a guess for next two years.

Guess what happened....... The right turbo blown on the dyno. It was like powsssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhh. And in my head i was like FFFUUUUCCCKKKKK.

So long story short, the dyno is 21/2 hours drive from home. I had to go back home buy bus, and anounce this to the wife. Yes she was happy[mad].
But i do have a good girl though.

At that time i figured that it was not worth to tow the car for that long distance, and decide that ROMBOTISS would do the job. He's one of the most
knowledge man with Porsche and Audi. This guy makes good, powerfull cars.

Here's a couple of pictures of my job and Mikes Jobs.

Mikes is working really fast by the way. http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/DSC05450.jpg
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At Rombotiss shop.
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A shot of my blowned turbo beside my new tial 770r
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[Reich]

The fuel pump i have is one walbro and twin MSD in parallel. I still use the stock rail for now. Let see what i can get out of this. I'll send i pic when i have a chance.

I'll show some pics of my custom 4'' 304 stainless exhaust system. I'm at the Hotel in Vaudreuil for all week. ( far from home )
So that means that some pics will come from Rombotiss shop and the others when i'm back home.

Thanks for viewing.

[julex]

so what blew? 770R turbo? any idea why?

[Reich]

I'll write down all of my mods on a piece of paper so that i don't miss something. before post it.

[Reich]

so what blew? 770R turbo? any idea why?
No my bullseyepower turbo blown.
The right turbo shaft broked in three pieces. Probably due to overspeed.

[Reich]

a couple pics of the car. Sorry for the crappy pics
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[GURUMAN]

I like your car better with the OEM mags ! LOL

[blackbenzz]

Nice build, should be a monster!

[Reich]

I like your car better with the OEM mags ! LOL

I still have them. I'll put them back with good tires a couple of times for fun. That will be sleeper status.

[Reich]

Nice build, should be a monster!
Thanks. We shal see.

[Sherif]

Glad to see you finally did a build thread Simon!

Will bulleyes give you some other turbo to replace the blown one? I know the model you had is discontinued, but will they replace it with some other turbo you could sell (it would help you pay that tranny swap, 3l engine and Tial 770 you did all in the same summer :P )... these are supposed to be replaced if something bad happen for lifetime right?

Can't wait to run you before we have a beer together! hopefully this fall

[NogaroAvant]

looking good!

[Reich]

Glad to see you finally did a build thread Simon!

Will bulleyes give you some other turbo to replace the blown one? I know the model you had is discontinued, but will they replace it with some other turbo you could sell (it would help you pay that tranny swap, 3l engine and Tial 770 you did all in the same summer :P )... these are supposed to be replaced if something bad happen for lifetime right?

Can't wait to run you before we have a beer together! hopefully this fall

Hey Sherif!!

Well the turbos that Bullseye guy offered to to replace the blown ones for a good price is s251. He said good for 900 to the wheels.
But there's two things that stoped me from buying them. First, How would a 3L would spool them; Second is that they t3 flange and are freaking big 7 1/2'' wide. So i was woried that they might not fit.


And the car will be ready pretty soon regarding to Mike.

Here's the s252 comp. map that guy from bullseye wanted to sell me.
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[Reich]

looking good!

Hey Buddy.

I think you should post a thread about your build as well.

Let me how's things going.

[Euromike]

should be a monster build, cant wait to see it done

Have to say, i don't like your wheels at all. I think the car looks much much better with OEM Avus's

[bigern45]

cant wait to see what this build does on your cold canadian air, eh??[:D]

[GURUMAN]

My heart stopped today while I stopped at the Garage and saw my good old 3.0L sitting with new tial turbos.

Whe are all looking forward toward the promising monster torque curve...

I'm just a bit concerned about tha poor little southbend

[wdbdy2000s4]

Does mike drop all of his engines like that? I would have done it the way you did.

Looking forward to results

[GURUMAN]

Mike is very creative !

[Reich]

My heart stopped today while I stopped at the Garage and saw my good old 3.0L sitting with new tial turbos.

Whe are all looking forward toward the promising monster torque curve...

I'm just a bit concerned about tha poor little southbend

I'm starting to think about my SB as well. Damm that wasn't supposed to be that powerfull so soon. I hope it will hold like Sherif's one.
Finger crossed. I can't spend more than that this year. We will see next year.

[Reich]

Does mike drop all of his engines like that? I would have done it the way you did.

Looking forward to results

What ever the way he do it. I can tell that in the first day, He was all ready starting to install the hoses for the new turbos.

[GURUMAN]

Sorry man, can'T go for beer, it's babysiting week, my wife is going back to work !

[Reich]

Sorry man, can'T go for beer, it's babysiting week, my wife is going back to work !
No worry.. I'll go at your home and bring some cogniac...LOL. Ok man. We'll see you soon.

[Reich]

So here we go.
The mod list that i have so far.

Engine sise= Guruman's engine
Deverters= turbosmart kompact (closed)
Inlets= 034 RS4 carbon firber
Intake manifold = RS4
bipipe = ard
Throtle body= 80mm HEMI w 034tbb
Turbos= bullseyepower to 770R
MAF= EPL MAF
Fuel rails= 034
Injectors= Bosch ev 14 830
Fuel pump = walbro 255 with twin MSD fuel pump mounted in parallel
Intercoolers = Evolution Raceworks with shrouds
PCV = custom and catch can
Tune = EPL
Mounts= 034 track density APr front snub
Clutch = southbend stage5 6 ceramic puck.
Down pipes= custom from 2 1\2 to 3''
Cats= twin 3'' metal cats.
exhaust line= custom 4''
Muffler= Vibrand 4'' to twin 3'' stainless black.
Coil-overs = st suspension.
Brakes= Adams disc rear/ don't remember front. With hawk ferocarbon pads. Still on hp2.

I do miss some, but i'll update as soon as it pops in my head.

[Sherif]

the SB is so easy to drive man! I hope it hold well for you, mine never slipped yet (brady told me it did a litle on the dyno) I have about 10 6000 RPM lauches on it so far

The Montreal audi club planned a cruze to St-Sauveur on october 23rd... it's pretty soon but I'll be in Montreal that week end, It would be great if you could make it, we could go at I-Car for some 1/4 miles run after a nice dinner in the Laurentides, Mike told me he have a marriage but he may come with us before....

by the way he did a great time there 2 weeks ago with his single turbo 2.7l Coupe ;)

[Reich]

Are you sure it's 23thrd? because i've heared it was 31st.

[Sherif]

100% sure it's 23rd, I just had a confirmation from Jonathan.

[Reich]

Mike started the car today and ran well. He did a couple of test drive to finish to remove oil in exhaust. Blue smoke everywhere outside.

The sound is so nice. It's amaysing of how that the sound have change that much after a turbo swap.
Sounds deeper, more bass and we can hear the turbines. The only thing left is the front bumper. Because Steeve repaint-it.
Tomorow, Friday is dyno time. What a nice way to start a weekend. Is there anything better to have your car ready for the weekend?
Thanks to Mike and George that have put soo much effort into it today.

[Sherif]

[QUOTE=Reich;5751280]
Mikes is working really fast by the way. [QUOTE]

Nice to see how fast this is going! seem like you went to the right place ;)

[NogaroAvant]

Looking forward to your dyno's bud. In car video would be great too! lol

[Reich]

Ok the southbend stage 5 clutch slipped at only around 450 wtq. I think i know the problem now. It holded 516wtq when it was bullseye and now that we have put 770R, It slip at that low. But i think i have the answer. i was thinking of that while going back home.
The car is still at Rombotis because the front bumper is not painted yet.
Let's just say that they spool later than the small turbos that i had before. but it made more power and torque at the same boost/ rpm level.

[Reich]

I'm pretty sure that my slave clutch broked again and driping oil on my clutch. Mike will confirm. Is there a reason why those slave are so weak?

I know that the best thing to do is put a twin disc inside. But i just can't afford to do that. And i was not supposed to make that much hp at the begining.
But i do expect more clamp from those clutch. Think Sherif's car.
We will see what Mike finds out.

Edit: I like the taste of your new drink that you brought at the shop GURUMAN.

[Reich]

So by the time that Mike takes care of my clutch, think it would be nice to post some pics of my exhaust.
The exhaust is made by my friend Martin from turbo ms. http://www.turboms.com/
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[Reich]

Some more.
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All 304 ss

[gearhead1186]

maybe southbend can modify your PP to have a higher clamp rating. give em a call, its a possible affordable solution.

how much did you pay to have your exhaust done? any videos?

[Reich]

maybe southbend can modify your PP to have a higher clamp rating. give em a call, its a possible affordable solution.

how much did you pay to have your exhaust done? any videos?

I do have a vid of sound clip but the camera automatically swith to a sound protection and cut a half of the sound. i'll post that later on.

I did phone the guys from south bend and he told me that i need a break in before rising the hp. which i don't believe. Anyway, the breaking is done. I sure it has something to do with my slave that broked again and leak oil inside again. Third thime that this happens. Mike is supposed to modify this.

[Ringlord]

Hi Reich, I will look into the slave situation on tuesday, and I'll give you news same day.
Thanks again for dinner, we should do it again some time!

[GURUMAN]

Sound nasty ! but a lot more reasonable than mine did !

[Reich]

Here's a quick sound track we did right after the installation two months ago.
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[Reich]

Hi Reich, I will look into the slave situation on tuesday, and I'll give you news same day.
Thanks again for dinner, we should do it again some time!

I like the restaurant where you brought us.

[Ringlord]

Hi Reich, I came in to work today because the suspense of your clutch slave was killing me. I removed your cylinder, and yes, it has broken the stop, but it hadn't extended out far enough for any fluid to come out. I replaced the cylinder anyway, since I have a few in stock, and I made a temporary clutch pedal stopper in order to avoid the slave breaking again. We'll see how that goes. I'll rack up some mileage on the clutch, to help with break-in, and we'll see how it goes when it's back on the dyno.

[GURUMAN]

Greek food !!!

[Reich]

Hi Reich, I came in to work today because the suspense of your clutch slave was killing me. I removed your cylinder, and yes, it has broken the stop, but it hadn't extended out far enough for any fluid to come out. I replaced the cylinder anyway, since I have a few in stock, and I made a temporary clutch pedal stopper in order to avoid the slave breaking again. We'll see how that goes. I'll rack up some mileage on the clutch, to help with break-in, and we'll see how it goes when it's back on the dyno.

Nothing can stop you. Man you have the Audi in your blood.
Last time it happened to me, i thought i didn't leak inside but it did. I've put my finger in the hole inside and there was.
Anyway, i'm happy that you solved the problem. How's the bumper going?

I'm looking foward to take the car Friday. Will Brady have finished with it?

Thanks. Will you run the car with the old uni box for the breakin or the new base file that Brady did? Asking because i know that he put back the Uni box inside.

Please make my wish come true. I want the car for this week end. I crossing fingers.
Thanks again Mike.

[Reich]

Greek food !!!

Yeap. My stomak was too full. I had a tight sleep that knight.

[Spooled1.8]

Greek food !!!

We do make some damn good food.

[Reich]

Latest news is that the car is ready to go on the dyno again. Waiting for Brady for some updates.

[Reich]

So the tune is not finished yet. There's a couple of things that hes to be done on the car to finish this. One of the best run it had is 575wtq and the clutch was able to hold-it.

First, I need to change the Maf. The one i have is too small. I'm thinking of it.
I have to chose between a bigger houising again and deal with the crappy idle;
Go something different like EPL do;
Or run a twin maf set up.

Second thing is the clutch. It has started to slip again during the trip back home this morning.
So that means that the clutch won't hold the final tune.
Now I'm thinking of calling back SB clutch, and deal with them to see if they can trade the one i have with extra cash for something better;
Or go with an other company like CM 850 or something like that.

But one thing is for sure. I never had a car that much powerfull until yesterday. ; )

[Reich]

There's something i need to know. So input is welcome.
I have an other ECU that the chip is encripted from UNI guys. So we can't flash it through obd port.
So after removing the ECU box, here's what we found.
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They put epoxy over it as well. There's no way we can go inside that chip now.
Do you think it can ba saved? I would use the box with a race file if it's possible.

[*Blue-Angel*]

Thats toast. Thats fucked up they did that. Thats some propriority bs if I have ever seen anything. Thats worse that apple even. wow. Dude your gonna have to find a new ecu and start over.

[Reich]

Thats toast. Thats fucked up they did that. Thats some propriority bs if I have ever seen anything. Thats worse that apple even. wow. Dude your gonna have to find a new ecu and start over.

I do have two ECU. But I was wondering if I can save this one. I don't understand why he did this. I guess he own me a new ECU.

[julex]

I would assume they did this so that you cannot unsolder and copy the chip's content without damaging it and making it impossible.

[Reich]

I would assume they did this so that you cannot unsolder and copy the chip's content without damaging it and making it impossible.
That's what I think as well. But I don't know if he realized that he pretty much destroy my box. He never asked my opinion about epoxy. So he did it without care. Now I don't have choice to go back with him or scrap the box and buy an other one.

[Reich]

All right. Like you guys know, i had to run with n75 unpluged to save the clutch and for the wait for my new maf setup.

So what i've done until then, is that i've installed a MBC to raise the boost to the limit of the clutch. Which is around 25-26psi.
Man..... Some times the front wheel spins. LOL. That's ridiculous. I'll tell you what. I'll keep it this way until this winter for sure.
I have a lots of fun.

Oh I want to say to Mike that his brother, Steeve, did a good job on the bumper. The more it dries, the more it fades away and blends with the rest.
You can't tell it's been repainted if you dont know it.

[Don Supreme]

There should be away to remove the epoxy... There is a chemical to remove it.

[audee3]

All right. Like you guys know, i had to run with n75 unpluged to save the clutch and for the wait for my new maf setup.

So what i've done until then, is that i've installed a MBC to raise the boost to the limit of the clutch. Which is around 25-26psi.
Man..... Some times the front wheel spins. LOL. That's ridiculous. I'll tell you what. I'll keep it this way until this winter for sure.
I have a lots of fun.

Oh I want to say to Mike that his brother, Steeve, did a good job on the bumper. The more it dries, the more it fades away and blends with the rest.
You can't tell it's been repainted if you dont know it.

Thats what me and steve were thinking that after a while in the sun the color would match better. glad to hear it s looking good.

[Reich]

There should be away to remove the epoxy... There is a chemical to remove it.

Ohh yeah? Man. I would apreciate you to tell me what it is. But on the other hand, if it's strong anough to remove epoxy it might destroy the board right?

[Reich]

Thats what me and steve were thinking that after a while in the sun the color would match better. glad to hear it s looking good.

Hi Ramsey. Yeap. only under particular shadow, you would notice something if you look with good care. Again. if you don't know what happened, it's like a flame inside the fire.

[Reich]

I poped a boost hose last Friday which is strange. And at the same time,it was scarry because of the sound it made. I can't immagine with a good clutch and a good tune how it will be.
I've put 3682842 to replace it. this hose is for the EGR right after egr cooler at 200-220deg vetween 37-42 boost all day long.
I gona change all the other hoses for this one this coming winter.

[rarak69]

Thats toast. Thats fucked up they did that. Thats some propriority bs if I have ever seen anything. Thats worse that apple even. wow. Dude your gonna have to find a new ecu and start over.

Negative

you can get that chip on on the bench with galletto and bootmode. Bootmode uses the Flash chips read/write versus using the KWP protocol.

Youll just need to ground the bootpin, and from the looks of it, you can hit the pin likely just scrape the epoxy off slightly to uncover it.

Good luck!!

[rarak69]

Negative

you can get that chip on on the bench with galletto and bootmode. Bootmode uses the Flash chips read/write versus using the KWP protocol.

Youll just need to ground the bootpin, and from the looks of it, you can hit the pin likely just scrape the epoxy off slightly to uncover it.

Good luck!!

On a second look, I forgot this ecu has 3 different boot pin options that are easily accessable. you can use the ram chip, pin....27 maybe id have to look it up.

or:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r272/rarak69/bootpin.jpg

[skinnytirez]

can't you just hook up to it on the backside? like flip the ECU board over and tap in from the bottom?

[rarak69]

can't you just hook up to it on the backside? like flip the ECU board over and tap in from the bottom?

No, it is a surface mount

[Reich]

On a second look, I forgot this ecu has 3 different boot pin options that are easily accessable. you can use the ram chip, pin....27 maybe id have to look it up.

or:

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r272/rarak69/bootpin.jpg
Thanks for all the info. That was very instructive. I'll send this info to my tuner if you don't mind.
Thanks again.

[rarak69]

Thanks for all the info. That was very instructive. I'll send this info to my tuner if you don't mind.
Thanks again.
No problem, good luck with your build.

[Reich]

So I got some news.
I finally bought Guruman's tilton twin clutch to fix the little sliping issue i had. But you know what? I've learn something out of this. ''When you do something, you better do it good once for good.'' Don't try to save on something otherwise you'll have to change it one day and it will cost more. Yeah I know I learned the hard way.

So now since we are there, we will change the exhaust manifolds.

But the real good news is that Martin Tanguay is fabricating a custom intake manifold for me. Well he will actually build three of them for some friends ; )
Now you're going to ask me whos Martin Tanguay right? Well he's the very first guy to fabricate a custom Dart block twin turbo alcool full mechanical injection. Yes there's absolutely no electronics in his dragster. He has build verything from scratch. He also do his own Camshaft grind. The second mechanical alcool turbo dragster is a guy from Australia but Martin help the guy to build his set-up. He actually owns two race cars. he built everything from the intake to the oil pan.We share a lot of knowledge together. I help him in the diesel world and he help me in spark engines lol.
Anyway here's a couple of pictures of his cars and engines.
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The picture below is an intercooler he made for a snow mobile. lol
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And the snow mobile engine lol
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That thing below is an intercooler he made. It's a combine of both air to air and air to water intercooler he made. You can see both water core on each side of the air/air core. Everything is held together with 1/2'' thick alluminium plate. This is what hapens when you run 150 psi of boost in a truck lol.
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He's actually the guy that did my custom 4'' exhaust under my car.
He's not a european guy. He likes better american and Japanes cars for tuning and race aplication. But I'm doing a good job of converting him to europ lol ; p

[Reich]

As you guys will notice, He's probably not the best welder. but who fuck.. cares. At least he knows what he doing that's the thing. Been there, done that... kind of guy. But the welds still look good thought

[Sherif]

Let me know when you have some news on the intake manifold Simon! Post some pics!

[Reich]

Let me know when you have some news on the intake manifold Simon! Post some pics!


Hey Seb.
Thanks for your used intake by the way. I was on vacation last week but i'll go grab some pictures at his shop this week.

[Reich]

Ok the good news is that the manifold work has just begun. Early in the process thought. I took a couple of pictures.
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An other good news is that he's going to flow bench each runners To make sure they are all equal and the intake it self. I whish I had an Rs4 intake on hand so we could compare.
If anyone want to pass me in Rs4 intake for a little while and then I'll ship it back no mistakes . That would be very apreciative.
The other good news is that The flywheel is ready. So we should be ready to start wrenching pretty soon.

[gearhead1186]

interested to see how the manifold turns out. its a pain that the TB flange is pushed so far into in the intake. curious to see how you guys work around this. ideally, the y-pipe should be somehow re routed so that you can get a taller intake in there with better TB placement.

[Reich]

interested to see how the manifold turns out. its a pain that the TB flange is pushed so far into in the intake. curious to see how you guys work around this. ideally, the y-pipe should be somehow re routed so that you can get a taller intake in there with better TB placement.

Thanks For your input. I do have a lots of questions my self when look at this, but he took his mesurement with the hemi T/B.
As for the Y Pipe, We were thinking about doing twin maf set-up. I talked with Brady From Dynodoc and I think I talked about this to Mike Rombotis as well.
That twin maf would be very easy task that could help us clear the manifold.

[wdbdy2000s4]

That guy's work is pretty serious. [up]

Keep us posted on the results.

[Reich]

That guy's work is pretty serious. [up]

Keep us posted on the results.

Will sure do. [:)]

[Bettonracing]

You may consider using a diffuser/ trumpet plenum to help facilitate the offset & recessed throttle body. While they're typically used to equalize air distribution between cylinders, the unusual positioning of the throttle body could be used as a packaging advantage in this case.

Example of diffuser/ trumpet plenum:
http://www.bufkinengineering.com/dahlbackintake.jpg
How it looks from the inside (sharp and sudden transition NOT preferred):
http://www.bufkinengineering.com/taper.jpg

Jasper Integration (http://www.jasperintegration.com/navi.html) (<** Link) fabricates these types of manifolds and sells (custom) parts for them as well (with better transition between plenums). I've yet to come across one of their manifolds in use, but their beautiful website (...) implies that they are better at doing the work than advertising it...

You may also consider using the cyl head flow numbers to determine what flow rates You need from the intake manifold (saves You from hunting for an RS4 to compare to). 1.8t AEB cyl head flow data may be more readily available on the net if You don't have a 2.8L head available for testing.

Food for thought, intended to spur ideas.

Regards,

H. Kurt Betton

[Sherif]

Simon call me, I'll bring my car to Mike pretty soon, while the car is there for the standalone I may lend you my RS4 intake

[Reich]

You may consider using a diffuser/ trumpet plenum to help facilitate the offset & recessed throttle body. While they're typically used to equalize air distribution between cylinders, the unusual positioning of the throttle body could be used as a packaging advantage in this case.

Example of diffuser/ trumpet plenum:
http://www.bufkinengineering.com/dahlbackintake.jpg
How it looks from the inside (sharp and sudden transition NOT preferred):
http://www.bufkinengineering.com/taper.jpg

Jasper Integration (http://www.jasperintegration.com/navi.html) (<** Link) fabricates these types of manifolds and sells (custom) parts for them as well (with better transition between plenums). I've yet to come across one of their manifolds in use, but their beautiful website (...) implies that they are better at doing the work than advertising it...

You may also consider using the cyl head flow numbers to determine what flow rates You need from the intake manifold (saves You from hunting for an RS4 to compare to). 1.8t AEB cyl head flow data may be more readily available on the net if You don't have a 2.8L head available for testing.

Food for thought, intended to spur ideas.

Regards,

H. Kurt Betton

You're right. This is exactly what I said to Martin, the guy that will do the intake. He knew that before like I guessed. That flute dezign inside is applied everywhere. That prevents the air flow to take the easyest port which is usually at the rear.

Thanks for your input, and nice pictures. Thanks for the cylinder head flow idea. But I guess those heads are not that easy to find at the city i'm at. Will see. The reason for comparing it to RS4 intake is not because it's intended to flow the same, but to see how precise RS4 is to diffuse the flow. We want to flow more for sure. But I get your point.

[Reich]

Simon call me, I'll bring my car to Mike pretty soon, while the car is there for the standalone I may lend you my RS4 intake

You know what Sherif? That would be well appreciated. You can call me if you want.

[Reich]

Sorry for the long uupdate. Martin is very busy is these days. There's only one runner done so far. I just got my twin disc clutch, headers are ready. Wayting for Martin to get rid of some other project and we start wrenching. I just put my car*back on the road yesterday night,after a long winter. Man i didn't remember that was that powerfull!!. Thats more than anough power for the streets and there's still other part to put on. I'm starting to think I have a problem. Some kind of adiction. Up dates are comming soon.

[diabolical1]

wow. i'm definitely in for seeing how the intake manifold turns out.

[jibberjive]

Nice. Cool discussion on intake manifold design! I'll be keeping tabs on this for sure.

[Reich]

Nice. Cool discussion on intake manifold design! I'll be keeping tabs on this for sure.

Guruman came to the shop last week to bring my clutch since he had to do buisness in my city. I wish the intake would have been more complete so that he could get a better idea of what it is. But I guess he have a good idea how big it's going to be. ; )

[Reich]

So I dropedd the engine Again yesterday at my friends shop. It took me 6 hours alone. Can't go faster.
Anyway here's a couple pics of my SB clutch. doesn't look that bad.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/100_0062.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/100_0061.jpg
As you can see, there's little glases and hot spot on the flywheel but ok. It only needs a resurfacing.
As for PP and clutch disc, they look good.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/100_0065.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/100_0072.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/100_0071.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/100_0069.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/100_0068.jpg

[Reich]

We had to machine the flywheel pilot bearing hole. It was .008'' smaller that the bearing itself. We bore it out to .9468'' to get
a .001'' of press fit. Not .008'' press fit.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/100_0075.jpg
Flywheel installed
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/100_0077.jpg
Whole clutch installed.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/100_0079.jpg

[Reich]

I'd like to thanks Jeff from usp for some explainations he gave me.
I also did some research about unprung clutch hub on dsm forrums and hondas forrums.
What they say is what ever the clutch brand you have, if you have an unsprung clutch, you need to be sure that your total runout and face out do not exceed .005'' And you have to be sure that the tranny is perfectly aligned and level to the engine. Otherwise there is danger that you'll wear out the splines fast since it doesn't have the capability to absorb deformations.
The other thing that need to be take care of is the engine harmonic noise that could wear out the splines. I decided to put some grease on the splines like we do on big rigs trucks. If you don't grease the input shaft on those 2050 torque twist, splines will wear out.
We'll see how long it will last. There's many clutch that have last long like for example Jeff usp. I guess you need to be carefull when installing it.
So i'll double check the dowels tomorow and mesure everything again.

[bigern45]

I'd like to thanks Jeff from usp for some explainations he gave me.
I also did some research about unprung clutch hub on dsm forrums and hondas forrums.
What they say is what ever the clutch brand you have, if you have an unsprung clutch, you need to be sure that your total runout and face out do not exceed .005'' And you have to be sure that the tranny is perfectly aligned and level to the engine. Otherwise there is danger that you'll wear out the splines fast since it doesn't have the capability to absorb deformations.
The other thing that need to be take care of is the engine harmonic noise that could wear out the splines. I decided to put some grease on the splines like we do on big rigs trucks. If you don't grease the input shaft on those 2050 torque twist, splines will wear out.
We'll see how long it will last. There's many clutch that have last long like for example Jeff usp. I guess you need to be carefull when installing it.
So i'll double check the dowels tomorow and mesure everything again.
no problems out of mine with a clutchmasters 850 so far but i def would have been more careful and exact during installation if id known this. i wonder if that was the problem with Bortzs' first clutch setup..

[Reich]

no problems out of mine with a clutchmasters 850 so far but i def would have been more careful and exact during installation if id known this. i wonder if that was the problem with Bortzs' first clutch setup..

Don't CM 850's have sprung hub discs? If it's the case, there aint that much you need to worry of.

[Sherif]

Yeah you can choose sprung or unsprung with the FX850 Simon.

Nice to see the progress, when do you plan to get it back and running?

[Reich]

Yeah you can choose sprung or unsprung with the FX850 Simon.

Nice to see the progress, when do you plan to get it back and running?

Well we ordered some new bolts and they suposed to get in tomorow morning. If every thing goes like planing, should be back on the streets tomorow afternoon. Martin Is supposed to help me out in reassembling to fastfoward things out.
Did you bought an unsprung clutch or sprung clutch?

[AudiA4_20T]

I ran a fully solid clutch setup on my A4 for awhile (Steel FW, unsprung disk). Wasn't bad at all.

[Reich]

I ran a fully solid clutch setup on my A4 for awhile (Steel FW, unsprung disk). Wasn't bad at all.

Good to hear. How long did it last. And how dit everything looked when you removed it? And finally why did you removed it?

[Evilevo]

no problems out of mine with a clutchmasters 850 so far but i def would have been more careful and exact during installation if id known this. i wonder if that was the problem with Bortzs' first clutch setup..

It most likely was. When Tilton got the clutch they said it was installed improperly. Which I would assume means it wasn't lined up perfectly. Thanks again VAST.

[Reich]

Thanks to you as well Evilevo for some of your input regarding that Tilton clutch you had.

[Evilevo]

Thanks to you as well Evilevo for some of your input regarding that Tilton clutch you had.

No problem. It really isn't that bad to drive. Just a heavy pedal. The way it grabs is very similar to my SB Stage 4 Extreme. I DDed mine for 10k miles.

Haven't really been following, but it looks like you got your shit together. 3L+770R seems to be a winning combination though!

[Reich]

No problem. It really isn't that bad to drive. Just a heavy pedal. The way it grabs is very similar to my SB Stage 4 Extreme. I DDed mine for 10k miles.

Haven't really been following, but it looks like you got your shit together. 3L+770R seems to be a winning combination though!

Thanks but still need the intake set-up, twin maf or not sure yet and tuning to do. But I keep moving and that's the thing.

[Evilevo]

Thanks but still need the intake set-up, twin maf or not sure yet and tuning to do. But I keep moving and that's the thing.

Well, I can tell you that the stock IM and TB still allowed BurningCoals to hit 62xWHP and 650WTQ. I hit 605WHP and 535WTQ on it also. Twin MAFs just seems overkill. The EPL Big MAF has proved that it works great.

[Reich]

Well, I can tell you that the stock IM and TB still allowed BurningCoals to hit 62xWHP and 650WTQ. I hit 605WHP and 535WTQ on it also. Twin MAFs just seems overkill. The EPL Big MAF has proved that it works great.

You're right. Believe me the twin maf idea is not only me. Of course it would be nice to have a big MAF like epl. but need to know what is this maf atually. Because with hitachi sensor, enven 90mm is not big anough. The biger you go, the less resolution you have at idle.

[julex]

You're right. Believe me the twin maf idea is not only me. Of course it would be nice to have a big MAF like epl. but need to know what is this maf atually. Because with hitachi sensor, enven 90mm is not big anough. The biger you go, the less resolution you have at idle.

My setup:

PMAS HPX sensor (modified 05+ hitachi slot sensor)
95mm ford mustang housing
CAI

The thing mates to RS4 accordion/whatever you have on y-pipe side and on the other end connects to 3.5" intake pipe to CAI filter.

Measures up to 3,600l/h of flow in this housing (our hitachi pegs at 1600 or so in 95mm?). I know, a bit of a overkill but since it still idles normally on 2.7 engine, I don't care.


EPL uses Pro-m MAF, most likely model 80.

http://www.promracing.com/mass-air-meters-c-2/pro80-p-5


The only issue with Pro-m is that each of them is custom made and flows differently. They also want extra $50 for 30 point maf curve over their standard 9 point (completely useless). 30 point one is better but it still needs to be run though some clever software to extrapolate to full 512 point curve our ECU uses.

[Reich]

My setup:

PMAS HPX sensor (modified 05+ hitachi slot sensor)
95mm ford mustang housing
CAI

The thing mates to RS4 accordion/whatever you have on y-pipe side and on the other end connects to 3.5" intake pipe to CAI filter.

Measures up to 3,600l/h of flow in this housing (our hitachi pegs at 1600 or so in 95mm?). I know, a bit of a overkill but since it still idles normally on 2.7 engine, I don't care.


EPL uses Pro-m MAF, most likely model 80.

http://www.promracing.com/mass-air-meters-c-2/pro80-p-5


The only issue with Pro-m is that each of them is custom made and flows differently. They also want extra $50 for 30 point maf curve over their standard 9 point (completely useless). 30 point one is better but it still needs to be run though some clever software to extrapolate to full 512 point curve our ECU uses.

Thanks a lot man. nice info. I'll have a look at it.

[Reich]

Ok so I did a test drive today. I know It took a while before taking her to the pavement, but we had to readjust the exhaust under car. I'm not a good welder so I had to wait for Martin to take care of it.

All I can say is that it's a little more grippy than the SB I had. And the clutch pressure I have to put on the pedal is 2X harder. I'll have to put it in neutral on a red light, without questions, if I don't want to eat the engine thrust bearing.

[dougyfresh]

Well, I can tell you that the stock IM and TB still allowed BurningCoals to hit 62xWHP and 650WTQ. I hit 605WHP and 535WTQ on it also. Twin MAFs just seems overkill. The EPL Big MAF has proved that it works great.

The key is having enough resolution for idle, part throttle and WOT in the upper RPMs. If you can't do that than you have to look into alternatives (hence the 'big' MAF that EPL provides with that specific fueling package).

[JDM EJ1 95]

excited to see that intake manifold! keep up the good work

[Reich]

excited to see that intake manifold! keep up the good work

Thanks man. I'm just rolling on the streets right now for the clutch break in. It gives some time to Martin to build the intake.

[Reich]

Received some goodies from EPL.. :-)
Now I really need ecux to do some loging bad... Anyone can help?
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/2011-10-24_13-59-41_24.jpg

[Evilevo]

Received some goodies from EPL.. :-)
Now I really need ecux to do some loging bad... Anyone can help?
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/2011-10-24_13-59-41_24.jpg

Shoot me a PM

[Reich]

Thanks Adam^^^^

[Sales@EPL]

Received some goodies from EPL.. :-)
Now I really need ecux to do some loging bad... Anyone can help?
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/2011-10-24_13-59-41_24.jpg

It's always nice when the delivery truck drops off some new goodies [;)]

Looking forward to finally getting you tuned, I'm anxious to see this build complete [up]

Rich

[GURUMAN]

It's always nice when the delivery truck drops off some new goodies [;)]

Looking forward to finally getting you tuned, I'm anxious to see this build complete [up]

Rich

Be gentle with my good old 3.0L

[Reich]

Be gentle with my good old 3.0L

Hahahaha. You were not too gentle with that engine too though lol. There's many video on youtube that prove's it.[up][;)]

[Reich]

It's always nice when the delivery truck drops off some new goodies [;)]

Looking forward to finally getting you tuned, I'm anxious to see this build complete [up]

Rich
Thanks a lot by the way. You got a PM.

[Reich]

It's been two days that i've been running with EPL base file. The thing I can say is that the car has as much torque than I had on my old tune twicked to 28psi but I now have more power at the top end for sure. Deff not the same car. And only at 24 psi boost. I need to log with ECUx but it always pop a window that sais i don't have the right file. Anyone can help? I don't have sufficient right to take them from D...kaos. forrums.

[JDM EJ1 95]

oh i know exactly what you need bud.. hold on ill find it.

[JDM EJ1 95]

ok if you are using the version i showed you.. look through the files you downloaded there should be a .txt file that is called READTHISORIFUCKINGCUTYOU or something along those lines.


it outlines what you need to do in there.. im guessing you are getting the error that says " missing msstdfmt.dll" or something along those lines..


you need to run the command promt in windows. start, run, cmd... then type regsvr32 msstdfmt.dll

[Reich]

ok if you are using the version i showed you.. look through the files you downloaded there should be a .txt file that is called READTHISORIFUCKINGCUTYOU or something along those lines.


it outlines what you need to do in there.. im guessing you are getting the error that says " missing msstdfmt.dll" or something along those lines..


you need to run the command promt in windows. start, run, cmd... then type regsvr32 msstdfmt.dll

Thanks. I also tried the one that Adam found to me and It sais that I need to use the right file or something like that. And there's a place were you can brouse but I can't find them...I guess i'm doing something wrong

[JDM EJ1 95]

let me know what error it is saying exactly.

[Reich]

let me know what error it is saying exactly.

Ok thanks.
I'll do that tomorow though. I got to catch some sleep.
Thanks again.

[bradyzq]

Received some goodies from EPL.. :-)
Now I really need ecux to do some loging bad... Anyone can help?
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/2011-10-24_13-59-41_24.jpg

[up][up][up]

Go for it!!

[Evilevo]

Shoot me a PM tomorrow. I can remote connect and get your laptop all setup.

[*Blue-Angel*]

^ thats the truth. Thanks adam. Hope my cpu never takes a crap or I might never get it working again.

[Reich]

Thanks a lot Adam. Now My ECUx works[:d]

Big props to you man. Well appreciated. You're a good AZ fellow...
That's worth many beers to you... not while driving though..;-)

[Reich]

Now i'll log that bitch Saturday for our friends at EPL.[up]

[Evilevo]

Not a problem man. Let me know if you need help with anything else.

[Max@034]

Excited to see some new logs!

[MikeyB3]

This thing looks crazy. I cant wait to see the data! [up]

[Reich]

After that, I will go to the only 4wd dyno we have here local which belongs to a japanie's tuner. He doesn't know a crap on German cars and doesn't seems to like them pretty much ether. Hopefully I'll show those guys good numbers compared to the cars they usually do...

[Sales@EPL]

I tried replying to your PM Simon, but your inbox is full.

[davenew]

Don't CM 850's have sprung hub discs? If it's the case, there aint that much you need to worry of.

No springs in my clutch..
http://dave-new.com/S4/IMOLA_2000/engine_pull_may2009/january_3_2010/DSCN3220.JPG

[Evilevo]

No springs in my clutch..
http://dave-new.com/S4/IMOLA_2000/engine_pull_may2009/january_3_2010/DSCN3220.JPG

Yup, there are a ton of options for the FX850. Material, sprung or unspring, even the pressure of the pressure plate. You can even do 1 sprung and 1 unsprung disc if you want.

[davenew]

After that, I will go to the only 4wd dyno we have here local which belongs to a japanie's tuner. He doesn't know a crap on German cars and doesn't seems to like them pretty much ether. Hopefully I'll show those guys good numbers compared to the cars they usually do...

If they aren't familiar with S4.. make sure they point fans to your ICs. I went to a local dyno around here one time that didn't know S4s and IATs were sky high.. figured out the fans weren't even pointed to the ICs.

[Reich]

I tried replying to your PM Simon, but your inbox is full.

I don't get it. I only have 13 messages inbox. I've deleted some more. You can try it again. Sorry about this.

[Reich]

If they aren't familiar with S4.. make sure they point fans to your ICs. I went to a local dyno around here one time that didn't know S4s and IATs were sky high.. figured out the fans weren't even pointed to the ICs.

No worrys. I'll probably pop off the bumper's inserts on each side to help a little bit more. I'll take care of that for sure. If he only have one fan, i'll probably wait and go somewhere else later or next year.

[Evilevo]

I don't get it. I only have 13 messages inbox. I've deleted some more. You can try it again. Sorry about this.

Your outbox counts towards your PM box being full too. Clear that out too.

[Reich]

No springs in my clutch..
http://dave-new.com/S4/IMOLA_2000/engine_pull_may2009/january_3_2010/DSCN3220.JPG
Looks close to mine. Got to make sure tranny is perfectly level with the engine and so on. Perfect centerline.
Nice clutch by the way.

[Evilevo]

Looks close to mine. Got to make sure tranny is perfectly level with the engine and so on. Perfect centerline.
Nice clutch by the way.

Yep. That is why Tilton said my twin disc failed. That it wasn't perfectly aligned. The springs alleviate this issue and also make it easier to drive.

[Reich]

Right on budy. The springs help to absorbs engine harminics but it also absorbs small amount of missalignment or runout.
I had to take a lots of precautions to prevent of what happened to yours. Hope your new clutch is doing a good job now...

[Reich]

So I now run EPL's 2nd revision file. Now boosting 30psi when the boost first kicks in at around 3800 rpm then immediately go down to 27 psi until 7800.

The only thing I can tell so far is........WTF is that. Car pushes like it never did.
I got to log her again and send this info to the guys at EPL and see if it needs corrections and what it is.
I have some hard time to connect with ECUx. I have to change com port, lower baud rate and all that stuff. You guy's got a clue?

Thanks very much Adam BTW for your help to install it and other things.

[Tony@EPL]

So I now run EPL's 2nd revision file. Now boosting 30psi when the boost first kicks in at around 3800 rpm then immediately go down to 27 psi until 7800.

The only thing I can tell so far is........WTF is that. Car pushes like it never did.
I got to log her again and send this info to the guys at EPL and see if it needs corrections and what it is.
I have some hard time to connect with ECUx. I have to change com port, lower baud rate and all that stuff. You guy's got a clue?

Thanks very much Adam BTW for your help to install it and other things.

Send us logs soon!!!

[JDM EJ1 95]

So I now run EPL's 2nd revision file. Now boosting 30psi when the boost first kicks in at around 3800 rpm then immediately go down to 27 psi until 7800.

The only thing I can tell so far is........WTF is that. Car pushes like it never did.
I got to log her again and send this info to the guys at EPL and see if it needs corrections and what it is.
I have some hard time to connect with ECUx. I have to change com port, lower baud rate and all that stuff. You guy's got a clue?

Thanks very much Adam BTW for your help to install it and other things.

if you have vagcom installed on your computer sometimes you have to open it and switch off "boot in intelligent mode" test and save.. mine switches back for some reason sometimes and it messes with ECUx

[Reich]

if you have vagcom installed on your computer sometimes you have to open it and switch off "boot in intelligent mode" test and save.. mine switches back for some reason sometimes and it messes with ECUx
Thanks. I don't have vagcom on this laptop but i do have an other engine software on this one. Insite.
I'm starting to think that i should install ECUx in an other one.

[Reich]

Send us logs soon!!!
Will donc that as soon as i got a chance. Probably in this week-end. Freaking buzy these days.

[Reich]

Tony!!

I'll you guys logs tonight. All three of you. I was able to do logs today.

I figured out what happened with Ecu x.

Sorry for the long wait.

[Evilevo]

Tony!!

I'll you guys logs tonight. All three of you. I was able to do logs today.

I figured out what happened with Ecu x.

Sorry for the long wait.

Awesome! Send me logs too!

[TweetsS4Estate]

SWEEET!!!!

[Reich]

Up date... Better late then never ;-)
I just get back from EPL.

First they took care to recode my cluster so that I don't get those abs esp lights anyore.
Now there's three things you have to think of....
1- I don't run meth. Why? because I don't want to rely on this. Specially when i do long travel. I dont want get into trouble if I run out of meth while i'm way out from home.
2- We only have crappy 91ish gaz Where I live. So the WHP is based on crappy 91 no meth.
3-It was raining like hell down here. 100% humidity. So that takes off a little bit of torque right there too.
Anyway.....I made 535whp and around 557 Wtorque on 91 pump. Dyno graph will show up as soon as I get the Dyno chart.
On 104 race file, We stopped at 620whp and around 629 torque. Why did we stopped at 620's? Because I decided so. The car did 0 knock at this whp level and according to Tony, we can easilly reach the 650whp bar with that gaz. I decided to stop there just to keep the engine in a kind of ''safe mod''... We never know.
620 whp is something I've always respect... And 535 whp on the streets today, is more than anough..

I'd like to thank a couple of guys and never mind the order as I go with the one that comes in top of my mind.
-Thanks to ''Rombotis tuning'' for having built the strong and reliable engine and also for your superb service when I blew a turbo on the dyno Two years ago.
-Thanks to ''Guruman'' for the great deal on the engine and all other supports.
-Thanks to ''EPL'' For the great success and good reliable tuning you did.
-Thanks to ''Dynodoc'' Even though it didn't work out with you because your computer box crash down, I know you're a good tuner too.
-Thanks to Adam ''evilevo''
-Thanks to Sebast '' Sherif''
-Thanks to all the ''AZ'' fellow. Even though I've been in the diesel engine world for a long time, I've learned a lot in this board towards the gaz side from some of you guys...

I will always be part of the Audi scene, But it's time for me to do some diesel power now. I'm probly going to buy a truck soon.

Again, Dyno chart will come as soon as I get them.

[Reich]

Here's one run at 590 whp.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/th_2012-05-15_14-45-30_975.jpg (http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/?action=view&current=2012-05-15_14-45-30_975.mp4)

[Reich]

That's the vid when it did 620 whp.
Forget what I said at the end. That was impressive.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/th_2012-05-15_15-46-34_789.jpg (http://s224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/?action=view&current=2012-05-15_15-46-34_789.mp4)

[Max@034]

Awesome Reich!!!

It's great to see 535whp on 91 without meth and low/no knock. 91 is so limited without meth. That is definitely more then enough for the street. Nice to see how much it can rip with some race gas. Be nice to see what it can do with some real 110!

[Reich]

Awesome Reich!!!

It's great to see 535whp on 91 without meth and low/no knock. 91 is so limited without meth. That is definitely more then enough for the street. Nice to see how much it can rip with some race gas. Be nice to see what it can do with some real 110!
Thanks Max. I don't know how was the knock voltage on 91file. I was talking about the 104Wallon file. And that was without the carbone Y pipe you sold me. I feel a little bit chicken to push her farther. I want her to last long. You know what I mean. I throw too much money on her.

[Reich]

104 result.
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/104file.png
91 pump no meth
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd293/reich_04/pumpnometh.png

[GURUMAN]

Impressed with my good old 3.0L

620 on 91, WOW

good power level on ME7

[Reich]

Impressed with my good old 3.0L

620 on 91, WOW

good power level on ME7
Thanks Dominique. Well it was actually on 104 octane no meth. We did 535 whp on 91 no meth which is
Good. Tony tuned two ECUs one with 621 whp and other with 535 whp. 535 whp is for the street and 621
whp is for race. It would be very cool to do race between your old 3L VS your new one that is about to show up

[jibberjive]

Nice! Good to see her up and running again.

[Reich]

Nice! Good to see her up and running again.
Thanks. :-)
Yeah that was a big fight. Some of my friends said I was crazy to keep fixing and throwing money at her.
But now it pays off. I remember somone saying ''keep focusing''

[GURUMAN]

I was crazy to keep fixing and throwing money at her

LOL, you met my wife !?


But now it pays off

Exactly how I get away with it !

[Reich]

LOL, you met my wife !?



Exactly how I get away with it !

Yes!!1
Can't wait to see yours running.

[Sherif]

I'm glad to see her back on the street Simon, I hope I'll be able to drive by your side this summer before cracking some cold ones ;)


BTW, where have you been with the car to get it tuned by EPL?

[Reich]

I'm glad to see her back on the street Simon, I hope I'll be able to drive by your side this summer before cracking some cold ones ;)


BTW, where have you been with the car to get it tuned by EPL?

I've gone directly in CT. It was worth the trip for two reasons. 1 it's nice in Vermont and Massachussets and 2 DO it once for good.
One trip and i'm tune.