As4driver's EPL Tial 605 Build!!!

[as4driver]

Hey Guys,

I have been procrastinating making a build thread, but i decided it was time to share what i am working on with the community. This is my second S4 and my third B5, the purpose of this build is two fold. I want to test my mechanical abilities by doing as much of the build myself and with the help of others. Secondly, i am excited to test the limits and see what these tial 605s can do with a built bottom end. In order to make the build go faster i purchased a spare shortblock locally that is currently at the machine shop. I have almost all of the parts i need, I think!!! I will be posting updates as much as possible and asking a ton of questions as i am a novice mechanic. Thanks in advance for everyones hlelp.

The car is currently a strong stage 2+ car. With the following mods:

GIAC X
Piggy straight pipes (which are for sale)
AWE Twin 1
Vast Stage 4 clutch + LWFW
APR Bi-pipe
JHM BBK
BBS RS-GT w/ Michelin PS2s
Vogtland Coils
AVIC D3
And a bunch other other irrelevant stuff.

The car ran great and is the most reliable Audi i have owned.

Parts list:

Engine size: 2.7L
Rods: Integrated Engineering
Main bearings: Coated 034
Rod bearings: Coated 034
Pistons: Stock
Heads: Stock
Intake: X-1 w/ CF Shield (Hopefully)
Throttle Body: Stock
Diverter Valves: 710n
Turbo kit: TiaL 605
MAF: EPL 85 mm
Injectors: Bosch ev14 72 lb
Fuel Pump: Bosch 044
Tune: EPL
Water/Meth Injection: Aquamist HFS-3
Clutch: Vast Stage 4
Flywheel: Vast
Intercooler(s): ERs
Mounts: Stern Soft (I hate Vibration!!)
Exhaust Manifolds: Ceramic Coated
Downpipes: 034 with test pipes
Exhaust: AWE Twin 1
Miscellaneous: APR Bi pipe, JHM trio package, Timing belt kit, 034 snub with cage, powder coated: valve covers, Intake Manifold, bipipe.

Im sure i am missing something i will add to it as we move along.

Parts PICS: Yes, i suck at taking pics so i set up my own photo studio. They still suck!! You get the idea. Some are iPhone some are point and shoot.
Pic of the car in Winter Mode
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teRMFxDLI/AAAAAAAABFc/glAThrKHgtQ/s640/IMG_0334.JPG
Summer mode:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teSyN44FI/AAAAAAAABFg/W3jvIrkGHlo/s640/IMG_0354.JPG
Project Mode:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teULcqpHI/AAAAAAAABFk/DBboBGR1VuE/s640/IMG_0370.JPG
Engine Pull took my 4 hours by myself:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teWgOPVtI/AAAAAAAABFo/DrphGaBOLh8/s640/IMG_0373.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teYBV7TPI/AAAAAAAABFs/TMchbRmL5sU/s640/IMG_0374.JPG

Parts Pics:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teYkb1ZyI/AAAAAAAABFw/-AtK8ESZuqI/s640/100_2418.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teaovbqfI/AAAAAAAABF8/xNlDeciUEIg/s512/100_2421.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tebHOzQAI/AAAAAAAABGA/cs1JRvRSOHY/s640/100_2422.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teaDty0PI/AAAAAAAABF4/48YSYal2NZ8/s640/100_2420.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tedXhDPhI/AAAAAAAABGQ/_dBLGS63ASs/s640/100_2426.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tedyn-HiI/AAAAAAAABGY/BUy0cni7dec/s640/100_2427.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tefQft1KI/AAAAAAAABGg/GURwMZ-C4AE/s640/100_2429.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teft56X4I/AAAAAAAABGk/SPzBAEPsc5M/s640/100_2430.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tehHoDF6I/AAAAAAAABGs/0IGqcl_h8WE/s640/100_2432.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tehtwIzgI/AAAAAAAABGw/AjRKwjf6TbE/s640/100_2433.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teiiD1EhI/AAAAAAAABG4/WGiz4HAxILs/s640/100_2436.JPG

More in next post!!

[NYEuroTuner]

Nice, good luck with the build!

[as4driver]

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tej_nQwkI/AAAAAAAABHA/_zJ23gK5z20/s640/100_2438.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teka66WdI/AAAAAAAABHE/C_OkG6Q0f_g/s640/100_2440.JPG
I Purchased the ERs used and they were pre tapped fpr meth:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-telNxrX0I/AAAAAAAABHI/GgT7PCYIcPk/s512/100_2441.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tel04YBeI/AAAAAAAABHM/svXIM0WqK4c/s640/100_2442.JPG
I already started mapping out the aquamist kit. I will be running to takes. A surge tank and a fill tank.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tenECYhiI/AAAAAAAABHY/tukwRwwhxeY/s640/100_2444.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tenvihWJI/AAAAAAAABHc/QlMYMgQDeB0/s640/100_2445.JPG

This pic is of a A4 ko3 and the 605 turbo:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tepnkTwcI/AAAAAAAABHo/CXzb3Ca8rWw/s512/100_2448.JPG

[as4driver]

Tearing down the short block i purchased for downtime.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tes1GnqAI/AAAAAAAABH8/5da6gauDuWE/s512/100_2369.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tet88PP8I/AAAAAAAABIA/FcrVUq8kTsI/s512/100_2370.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tevs7K_kI/AAAAAAAABII/6i43jDhfOdU/s640/100_2372.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tewdM9MGI/AAAAAAAABIM/eZS5RnVldL4/s640/100_2373.JPG

I could not get the front crank bolt off so i had the machine shop take care of it. The shortblock should be ready within the next two weeks. The goal is to be completed with the project by the end of June. More importantly i want to drive to to Waterfest and H2O!!

[bigern45]

looks great, cant wait to see the results..

[Johnny Bravo]

AS4,
Awesome! thank you for sharing the Build pictures with us. If you have any questions, I will be more than willing to lend a hand over the phone.

Good luck! and boost ON!

[Sales@RAI]

awesome

[as4driver]

tearing down my motor. This was very nerve racking i broke a few thinks mainly the spider hose. It was extremely brittle.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-te_S1ndnI/AAAAAAAABJc/VnxU6XYDMgI/s640/100_2401.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tfAIOIXaI/AAAAAAAABJg/S1KpUFkVEwU/s640/100_2402.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tfC6RqqiI/AAAAAAAABJ0/GEDMhkHq908/s512/100_2406.JPG

Here is the short block from my car that is currently for sale!!!
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tfDkfOs9I/AAAAAAAABJ4/QyhagkCpMk4/s640/100_2407.JPG
Pile of shit 1:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tfF0LuvyI/AAAAAAAABKI/fP92PEsuYgA/s640/100_2410.JPG
Pile of shit 2:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tfGRlNkfI/AAAAAAAABKM/fjYC6f8pPqk/s512/100_2411.JPG
Heads that are being cleaned and re-used:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tfJ07d11I/AAAAAAAABKg/bjqTG-aRkhs/s640/100_2416.JPG
Going to powder coat:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tfKiQiA1I/AAAAAAAABKk/xx_gUuuyASY/s640/100_2417.JPG

[as4driver]

You guys are AWESOME!!

I would like to be put in the build section if i am worthy!! Mods Please.

I am planning on going to the machine shop tomorrow to check on the progress.
I would like to thank a few people you have help me already: Mike (Gearhead), Tony and Dave @ EPL, Joe the auditech, the guys i rent my garage from (John, Dave and Dave), And everyone else for their support.

If anyone wants to come down to the shop to check things out shoot me a PM.

Thanks
Evan

[AMC]

i see my car haha, lookin good evan. finally went under the knife, very nice. promise to give me a ride when ur done. and why those injectors with that setup. the siemans 630's woulda been better no?

[Mattgfx]

dude your car externally looks amazing and this build is going to top it off!! cant wait to see this thing when its done. i want a ride tooo

sexy car!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2763/4492142864_c49b32fefe.jpg

i like your avatar pic

[as4driver]

Thanks Matt, i think your car is extremely clean and when ur ready to sell i will be first in line. Like seriously.

EPL no longer uses the seimens 630s. My nogaro had them and the idle was fucked up. These should flow more than enough fuel.

BTW Mike (Gearhead) and i are going to On track karting tomorrow night if anyones down. PM me

[Mattgfx]

thanx man , we gota meet up again this summer once your car is done.. and if you dont mind me asking, when your all said and done i would like to know the finishing price :)

[jibberjive]

Sick build. Crazy how all of the parts pile up. Good luck man.

[Bimmerchop]

Nice man, can't wait to see this build move along [up]

[as4driver]

I am keeping a spreadsheet of all of the costs. Its adding up very quickly, but i reserved extra money for emergencies and impulse buys.

EP

[kbS42001]

dubblethumbsup, lookin good

[jameskkk3]

wow im gona go check my underware enough said [up][up]

[99ebpsi24]

i reserved extra money for emergencies and impulse buys.


That's where a lot of people get in trouble not having that extra $ set aside for things that break druing install ect. You'll be glad you set that money aside for sure.

I'm in to see the final product should be a real beast and a blast to drive when finished. Good luck!

[dougyfresh]

Oh yeah. I need to come down and see this thing, Evan. Looking forward to the progress.



http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-tefQft1KI/AAAAAAAABGg/GURwMZ-C4AE/s640/100_2429.JPG


Tony doesn't use the direct plug connectors? There is a connector available that is USCAR one one side and on the other side its Minimeter. No wires inbetween. That is what I have on my EV14s.

[gearhead1186]

yes!! cant believe I missed this last night. im rooting for you!!

http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/25063/2168952510103989424S500x500Q85.jpg

^^yes I am THAT attractive

[bigern45]

yes!! cant believe I missed this last night. im rooting for you!!

http://inlinethumb40.webshots.com/25063/2168952510103989424S500x500Q85.jpg

^^yes I am THAT attractive

...no.. no you are not.. close.. but.. ehh.. no..

[as4driver]

Today i went to the machine shop to drop off the rods and bearings. The machine shop will be assembling the bottom end and i will be doing the rest here are the pics:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-zHqg518cI/AAAAAAAABLY/40-Pjs_DD1Y/s512/100_2450.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-zHrROKj1I/AAAAAAAABLc/WxbHgxbPuco/s512/100_2451.JPG
Stock pistons all cleaned up:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-zHs0ySKrI/AAAAAAAABLk/LeSxQJ9VIFU/s640/100_2453.JPG

I organized a small G2G which turned into just a large group of friends. Here were the only two running audis that made it out:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-zHtZu_FwI/AAAAAAAABLo/r8SFQojbXhA/s640/100_2454.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-zHuzGKbCI/AAAAAAAABLw/hpK-JSoMdqk/s640/100_2456.JPG

Tomorrow i plan on taking the heads home and cleaning the shit out of them. Does anyone know of a good product to use?

EP

[gearhead1186]

any type of strong degreaser that you can find at a regular auto store would work.. a prep spray that removes oil/grease/wax b4 paint works even better but is slightly more expensive.


Eastwood Pre-Paint Prep (http://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-pre-painting-prep.html)

PS karting was a great time. we have to do it again soon. ill bring my audi next time.. promise.

[jameskkk3]

yesss i wanted to go another 3 heats that was a blast

[AudiSportB5S4]

Looks good brake brother! haha..

We'll have a lot of great S4s in the good old state of Connecticut. We'll have a great ride down to waterfest that's for sure. [drive]

[as4driver]

We will def have to organize a cruise from CT to NY then to Waterfest. Mike u should have come karting, soo much fun.

[jameskkk3]

hey even really like that first pic nice camera skills on that one [up]

[AudiSportB5S4]

We will def have to organize a cruise from CT to NY then to Waterfest. Mike u should have come karting, soo much fun.

I would have bro, my nephews got me a freakin cold it's by far the worst thing in the world... Haven't been sick in 6 months and then thanks to them I can't breathe. But yeah, I put together a pretty good sized drive down to WF last year, I'll start organizing it early June. [up]

[as4driver]

Let me know im in!!!

The pics are not edited at all not bad!!

[Yesmar]

good luck with this build man, [up]

subscribed.
your parts list is extremely similar what im thinking about.

[gearhead1186]

any updates?

[ubermidget]

Gl on the build. always out by on track w/ my boys in cheshire, getting back into another b5 pretty soon so we should g2g

[as4driver]

Okay small update but unfortunately no pics yet.

I picked up my assembled shortblock from Center Auto Machine Shop in Stratford. I really cant say enough about these guys, they are awesome. I painted the block flat black as well as the Y-pipe silver and i am in the process of cleaning the heads. So far they are coming out very clean. While i was at the machine shop i had them hot tank a bunch of stuff and it came out super clean.

While in Stratford i stopped by EPL to have my base tune loaded onto my ECU. To my surprise, i was lucky enough to get my hands on a X1-Carbon fiber intake. YES!!! This may be the last one in existence but i hope not, its such a great piece.

I have a feeling the only thing that is going to hold up the process is the powder coater. I am going to work on the car Thursday night. Hoping to have the longblock assembled and t-belt on.
I will post pics tomorrow of todays progress. Thanks for following the thread. We are right on track and dare i say ahead of schedule :)

Best
Evan

[gearhead1186]

[up]

[as4driver]

Thanks for your help today mike.

[bigern45]

pic of the x-1 intake...please.... ive heard much about them but dont have a pic to put to the name...

[gearhead1186]

pic of the x-1 intake...please.... ive heard much about them but dont have a pic to put to the name...

here is a picture of mine with a crappy filter. have an AEM going on this time around..

http://inlinethumb06.webshots.com/43589/2655780370103989424S600x600Q85.jpg

[bigern45]

ooohhhh...[o_o]..

i probably need to do something similar to mine..

[as4driver]

UPDATE!!!

It has been such a crazy week, i was all ready to start the long block but i realized i was missing a few gaskets.
This week i clean the shit out of the heads, Picked up and painted the block, power washed the engine bay, and picked up my new DD.

I dont have a before shot of the bay but it was a hot mess!! here are the after shots:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S_hiDtM3o9I/AAAAAAAABNI/4hLOZQmzh78/s640/100_2458.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S_hiH6R1QtI/AAAAAAAABNg/xfCqgrZaDBI/s640/100_2464.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S_hiIbXfa5I/AAAAAAAABNk/z7HW0n7T3Dw/s640/100_2465.JPG

Block:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S_hiETV10qI/AAAAAAAABNM/8KUzWgiIRS4/s640/100_2459.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S_hiFH1eBZI/AAAAAAAABNQ/CTnck_vSjSE/s640/100_2460.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S_hiFq3f5tI/AAAAAAAABNU/xnXjq1Gon6g/s640/100_2461.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S_hiGFGQGjI/AAAAAAAABNY/flhp3baNvvg/s640/100_2462.JPG
Center Auto was nice enough to hot tank this entire bin of parts. They came out super clean:
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S_hiHVpdd_I/AAAAAAAABNc/OqCF7fvpGVM/s640/100_2463.JPG

Clean Heads!!
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S_hiJy62kGI/AAAAAAAABNs/Gmd7U_Kul1I/s640/100_2468.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S_hiJXCYAsI/AAAAAAAABNo/9puQ_4joxFg/s640/100_2466.JPG
Gaskets, headbolts, and such all ordered for germanautoparts.com
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S_hiK5P6gVI/AAAAAAAABN0/tLDE4Vx24EI/s640/100_2470.JPG

New DD:
http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!!f6Bps!CGE~$(KGrHqIOKjYEuf9B9ZzcBLybRvp05Q~~_4.JP G

This week i start my new job which leaves me with nights and weekends only to finish this project. I should have the longblock done by the end of the week. I think i am officially done buying parts. LOL

[as4driver]

I found a before pic of the bay:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teWgOPVtI/AAAAAAAABFo/DrphGaBOLh8/s640/IMG_0373.JPG

[AudiSportB5S4]

Wow, spotless engine bay! Nice job..

[*Blue-Angel*]

I found a before pic of the bay:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/S-teWgOPVtI/AAAAAAAABFo/DrphGaBOLh8/s640/IMG_0373.JPG

haha mine looked slightly worse than that does. I cleaned all the way to thre rear diff. scrub scrub.

[gearhead1186]

looking good evan!! its amazing what a little cleaning will do to the engine bay. looks fresh out of the factory. love the DD!! whats the story on it?

[as4driver]

I found the miata on ebay. I was going to bid but changed my mind at the last minute. I wasn't sure if i was going to need a second car based on the fact that i wasn't sure if i was going to get a job with a commute. Long story short i got the job and needed a reliable commuter. My choices were: MK4 GTI, E36 3-series, miata, or another a4. My budget was 6k. I had a hard time finding clean euros for 6k so i went with a miata. I called the dealership and the car was still available and now its mine!! Im still sorting out some of the issues. I got a decent deal but, it needs a few things. I figure i will get it running perfect and then do wheels, suspension, rollbar, and seats. The car has the factory sport package which includes LSD and ground effects. I plan on giving it a full detail sometime this week.

[gearhead1186]

nice. hope to see it soon.

[gearhead1186]

oh btw, Im going to be up in CT middle of this week to pick up some parts so if your not working working i can swing by and see how the car is coming along.

[as4driver]

Will u be around after 5 or are you coming up in the morning?

[gearhead1186]

Will u be around after 5 or are you coming up in the morning?

ill be around after 5. when I know the day, Ill shoot you a text.

[gearhead1186]

im bogged down with work the rest of the week so i wont be able to come up this week. im going to have my brother pick up the Y-pipe im having made. hows the build coming? any updates?

[as4driver]

I havent had any time to work on it this week with work. I am devoting most of sunday to geting the long block built. I have to see this y-pipe!!

[gearhead1186]

I havent had any time to work on it this week with work. I am devoting most of sunday to geting the long block built. I have to see this y-pipe!!

if i didnt have plans with the gf, i would def swing up sunday and give u a hand. i havent done a long block in a while [>_<]. did you get all gaskets and miscellaneous parts to wrap up the longblock sunday?

Ill post a progress picture of the Y pipe when I get home from work tonight.

[gearhead1186]

hows the motor coming along?

I think I might come up to CT tomorrow night with my brother and one of my buddies, go karting, crash at a hotel and then tuning wednesday. are you free tomorrow night?

[as4driver]

Mike, i am free tomorrow night. Text or call me tomorrow. Tuning on Wednesday, Holy Shit!!!

[as4driver]

Update:

Finally found time to work on my motor on Sunday night. I was waiting on a few misc. gaskets.
Progress made:
Both oil pans sealed
Oil pump installed
Heads on
Timing belt
Waterpump
T-stat
Block breather installed
Main crank pulley-i realize there is one bolt missing it will be replaced

Shinny parts will go on this week!!!
Lower oil pan:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TARNUvK_CJI/AAAAAAAABOg/oLMpD3Rn_tM/s640/100_2471.JPG
Oil pump:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TARNVf2vY5I/AAAAAAAABOk/4vYJdQMbFeo/s640/100_2472.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TARNV99Z8JI/AAAAAAAABOo/F2x7EY56pzA/s640/100_2473.JPG
Block Breather:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TARNWWMMW3I/AAAAAAAABOw/oibM9Q9VZkU/s640/100_2474.JPG
Pass side head going on:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TARNXmslrGI/AAAAAAAABO4/B3PeIfpROkU/s512/100_2476.JPG
Heads on:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TARNYAJrNXI/AAAAAAAABO8/M-RTSLMisGA/s640/100_2477.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TARNYqq3ByI/AAAAAAAABPA/n8xTD2FyJxQ/s640/100_2478.JPG
All new timing belt accessories, all timed up with the cam bar:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TARNZG3TzOI/AAAAAAAABPE/zZVzhrEm7YE/s640/100_2479.JPG
My attempt at photography:
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TARNab-SqQI/AAAAAAAABPI/QdNjol6KEko/s640/100_2480.JPG
Current status:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TARNa5kVqmI/AAAAAAAABPM/HlSBuuRgeOo/s640/100_2481.JPG

I should have time on wed night to work on the motor and i will have an update on Thursday.
I was at Limerock Raceway all day, anyone else from here go??

Best,
Evan

[gearhead1186]

looking great man!! did you end up taking apart your heads or no?

Maybe Ill swing by the shop tomorrow after karting. How far is your shop from on track karting? towards EPL or the opposite way?

[as4driver]

The shop is about 40 min south from karting and the shop is 45 min from EPL.

[Bimmerchop]

Looks like I'm gonna have to free some time up on Wednesday

[Mattgfx]

dude this is really coming along... i cant wait for this car to be done, its my dream set up.

[gearhead1186]

any pics?

[as4driver]

I am very close to having the motor ready to go back in. I promise i will post pics tomorrow.

[as4driver]

OKAY BIG UPDATE!!!

I am sooo busy with work, i apologize for not updating sooner. Things are going smoothly and the car should run by the end of the weekend. I am planning on postponing the install of the fuel pump and the HSF-3 until i know that the car starts. I am waiting on the turbo to mani rings i didnt know i needed, should be here tomorrow, then i will pull the motor off the stand and install clutch, flywheel and tranny.

On to the pics: If anyone sees anything wrong in the pics please let me know!!! Questions to follow.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TBbZApNeLQI/AAAAAAAABP0/CwwuoP9JX5w/s640/100_2483.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TBbZBRRKuHI/AAAAAAAABP4/yRl7F4VOrHU/s640/100_2484.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TBbZCGKk0gI/AAAAAAAABP8/rNdv7cimu8I/s640/100_2485.JPG

I cant figure out how to mount the hose on the left. I know it is a coolant line and i goes from the expansion tank to the oil cooler but how does it mount.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TBbZDQEe3cI/AAAAAAAABQA/G1vaG1p8OBg/s640/100_2486.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TBbZEZVLaVI/AAAAAAAABQE/W41QQ0b9rEU/s512/100_2487.JPG

X1 INTAKE, Yea i got one. This may be the last carbon fiber one in the WORLD!!! Thanks EPL
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TBbZFOAyeaI/AAAAAAAABQI/nhsxMOtmEsY/s640/100_2488.JPG
Painted the y-pipe, i also had the APR bi-pipe powder coated a similar silver.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TBbZGH7WCOI/AAAAAAAABQM/SRfrkwX0KnU/s512/100_2489.JPG
Im still trying to figure out how to install the n75. What goes where??
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TBbZG2vyuQI/AAAAAAAABQw/K7U61zLpJcw/s512/100_2496.JPG
Where does this black clip go?? It is on the drivers side of the car and looks like it may mount to the firewall, not sure.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TBbZHWXiJ9I/AAAAAAAABQY/Gg4EEzIuB9U/s640/100_2497.JPG
Wrapped 034 Downpipes
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TBbY_q7GykI/AAAAAAAABPw/-Bk6wHQSwEk/s640/100_2482.JPG

That is where we stand. If anyone has any advice regarding the posted questions i appreciate the help. I Should have another update before the end of the week.
Best,
Evan

[*Blue-Angel*]

I could answer all three but im not next to my engine to answer them defiantly. I can say you have answered your own question as far as the coolant expansion tank coolant line. If your talking about the small one. it mounts the the threaded hole just above and to the right of the hose in the picture. I think with a 10mm short bolt with washer.

[as4driver]

I guess the question is better depicted in this pic. I dont remember where to mount the hose?
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TBbZEZVLaVI/AAAAAAAABQE/W41QQ0b9rEU/s512/100_2487.JPG

[Mattgfx]

dude ........ i love your setup.. whats your price tag at ? :)

ps: i have no idea about those hoses.

[as4driver]

I figured out where the hose mounts. Any specific help with the n75?

Thanks

[Don Supreme]

Did you shave the support?

[gearhead1186]

hey evan, im in FL with limited internet but this might help you with the n75.

http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/12010/audin75.jpg

compressor signal goes to the bottom port and the wastegate signal goes to the port opposite the atmospheric signal.

[as4driver]

What are you doing i Florida we have install my HSF3!! LOL have fun.
So you are saying the port on the right is for the wastegate? The bottom is for the charge pressure from the turbo? and the left goes to the spider hose?
Can anyone confirm this?

Thanks

[*Blue-Angel*]

ill be at my garage in a few hrs. So if you don't get an answer and I can confirm it with you.

Pm me ur number, and ill text you lateer.

[gearhead1186]

Ha I'll be back on Sunday. Had to celebrate that stage 1 was complete. Everything you said up top was right except the port on the left is just vented to atmosphere and not connected to anything.

[AudiSportB5S4]

Whoa whoa taking my yellow valvecovers! I have a patent on it..... haha..

Evan you're coming down to WF with us, right?

[as4driver]

Im planning on it but i heard you are going up sat morning. I will be at the hotel friday night.

[gearhead1186]

still scheduled to drop the motor in this weekend?

[as4driver]

yes it should go in tomorrow morning!!! I will post pics tomorrow night

[gearhead1186]

yes it should go in tomorrow morning!!! I will post pics tomorrow night


looking forward to pics!!

[Mattgfx]

yes it should go in tomorrow morning!!! I will post pics tomorrow night

its like candy canes on christmassss.

[gearhead1186]

pictures!!

http://oneseasontrader.com/wp-content/uploads/impatient-interviewee.jpg

i didnt forget!!

[as4driver]

I had a very rough weekend!! the motor is ready to go in i just need to hook up the wires on the starter. Does anyone have a wiring diagram?
So, Mike when you planning on comming down??

[gearhead1186]

I had a very rough weekend!! the motor is ready to go in i just need to hook up the wires on the starter. Does anyone have a wiring diagram?
So, Mike when you planning on comming down??

The starter wiring should be pretty simple from what I remember. Im pretty sure the wires are on the engine bay harness so the motor would have to be in. Its one thick positive cable and one skinny one with a pastic connector on the end.

I'll probably come up Tuesday or Wednesday. Ill know for sure by the end of the day. When are you planning on having the motor in? I'd love to be there for the first crank!!

[gearhead1186]

i know ur motor is in. picture time!!

[as4driver]

Yes Motor IS IN!!!

Pics:

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TCKtQlLQTII/AAAAAAAABRI/LkHxJ4B9JNY/s640/100_2498.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TCKtRJ8hgGI/AAAAAAAABRM/YmVLQChd_84/s640/100_2499.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TCKtSoRymRI/AAAAAAAABRU/pakz0AXKAfc/s640/100_2501.JPG
Nice M3 in the shop, sorry its blurry:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TCKtTkzc-YI/AAAAAAAABRY/tFZaLNAcLLM/s640/100_2503.JPG

I still have so much to do with no time. If anyone wants to come down to the shop to lend a hand tomorrow night u are welcome!! Should running by the weekend.
Thanks for all the support.

Evan

[gearhead1186]

I still have so much to do with no time. If anyone wants to come down to the shop to lend a hand tomorrow night u are welcome!! Should running by the weekend.
Thanks for all the support.

Evan

You must be woozy from dropping the motor in. Should be running by tomorrow night!! I dont plan on leaving until I hear her purr....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_1UHWp76QaFs/SqVr1WpCEXI/AAAAAAAACH8/hkVWoVUWULw/s400/G20091534972529.jpg

let me know if u need me to bring anything.

[gearhead1186]

sorry again that I couldnt make it yesterday. hows everything going?

[as4driver]

Shes alive!!!! After some starter issues she finally runs. The starter is sill making a strange noise on start-up but at least it is running. I may get a new starter to see if that helps. I want thank Mike (gearhead) and Joe for helping me out, they have been a big help. Start up video: Can anyone tell me if they have ever heard this sound before?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjdKxPOUvOY

[tgiblin]

After the quick starter noise the car sounds great

[gearhead1186]

http://tristanlouthrobins.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/hooray.jpg

purrs like a kitten. hard to hear anything distinct in the video. whats the eta of that beast hitting the streets?

[skinnytirez]

hard to tell, but from the video it almost sounds as if the serpentine belt slips a bit...is there enough tension? did you get some cleaning fluid on the belt/pulleys?
good luck... love how clean the engine & bay are; giving you a thumbs up for cleanliness ;)

[AudiSportB5S4]

Nice Evan, good work! Will you have it all tuned by WF you think? You should make some roll out runs, I may do it too if its in the 80's, if its too hot it's not really worth it.

[Mattgfx]

nice start up , hows the car doing?

[dougyfresh]

Awesome! I need to drive down and see this thing.

[NogaroAvant]

looking good Evan, congrats on getting it in and running

[as4driver]

Thanks for all the support guys!!

So the car drove out of the shop under its own power last night!! But i still have a few issues to iron out before waterfest.

I changed the starter and the noise is still there. It happens every time right before the car turns over. I am at a loss i have no idea why it is making that noise??
I have to get more power steering fluid because i used the wrong kind.
Lastly i cant get my shifter perfectly aligned. I either dont have 6th gear or i dont have reverse??

The HSF3 kit is fully installed i just have to mount the tank and clean up the wiring. I am scheduled for my tune Thursday morning, its going to be really close!!!
Let me know if you have any ideas regarding the issues above, your advice is greatly appreciated. Pics to follow.

Evan

[diabolical1]

car sounds great. from that video clip it sounds quite understated, which is always refreshing to me. congrats on all the hard work. i definitely respect it.



hard to tell, but from the video it almost sounds as if the serpentine belt slips a bit...is there enough tension?
about the noise, i tend to agree with this. however, if it was the belt, i also tend to think it would probably make noise under acceleration or hard throttle blips. have you checked the main pulley for grease or any sort of lubricant that shouldn't be there?

[as4driver]

Pics as promised. I decided to leave the starter issue for now. The sound is embarrassing but it does not seem to get worse. I will most likely fix it after WaterFest. The only issue left is the shifter alignment. I followed the JHM DIY exactly and i am still having trouble. I am going to swap my stock shifter in tomorrow to see if that makes a difference. Regardless i most likely will be getting tuned on Thursday. I still have to clean up the engine bay and put some trim back on. I hope to see some of you at WF!!

Enjoy:
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TD0fORJjPGI/AAAAAAAABSA/5Lq83MsX0eg/s640/100_2506.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TD0fPD-DY3I/AAAAAAAABSE/_2DpDmRyyZo/s512/100_2507.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TD0fP3SgOBI/AAAAAAAABSI/Q9Guiih9i6w/s640/100_2508.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TD0fQyRuc-I/AAAAAAAABSM/seFaxjpgKW4/s640/100_2509.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TD0fRoq893I/AAAAAAAABSQ/b6kaYvcFdic/s512/100_2510.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TD0fSY3fD7I/AAAAAAAABSU/fze8g8rdm40/s512/100_2511.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TD0fS25sxzI/AAAAAAAABSY/dGwNeQvwulA/s640/100_2512.JPG

I took the car for a short drive today. except for a few minor leaks that i fixed the car is running great. I am afraid to get on it hard but i did do some third gear 3/4 throttle pulls. Let me just say it spools VERY fast.

Thanks for everyones help!!

Evan

[gearhead1186]

yes!! ive been dying to hear the update. glad everything is ok for WF. i am excited for the tune. wish i could swing by EPL and watch.

[*Blue-Angel*]

What issues are you having with your shifter dude?

[gearhead1186]

What issues are you having with your shifter dude?

ill hop in. when i was there this past weekend, we couldnt get it into 6th even though we had 5th. i tried adjust it to the extreme right for testing purposes and I still couldnt get 6th. only 5th. unless evan tried something different thats how it stood saturday night.

[gearhead1186]

before modification.

http://inlinethumb01.webshots.com/27136/2937737440103989424S600x600Q85.jpg


after modification

http://inlinethumb16.webshots.com/34383/2394104920103989424S600x600Q85.jpg

http://inlinethumb27.webshots.com/45018/2499640570103989424S600x600Q85.jpg

[as4driver]

Just for the record i think this is the cause of my shifter problems. I did not recive instructions to modify the linkage as shown above. I will do so tonight and hopefully i am all set for tuning tomorrow!!!

Thanks Mike!!

[*Blue-Angel*]

Just be careful how much you zip off. You want enough left over to be able to smack some down over the new parts to make a tight seal.

[as4driver]

Last night i spent like 4 hours getting the linkage off and modifiying it. It had to be the worst job in the world. My hands are cut and bleeding. I was able to attain all gears and it looks like im ready for Waterfest.
Bad news is it looks like i wont be tuned for Waterfest. I would have had to drive the car to EPL late last night for tune this morning and i couldnt find a ride last night. I may try and get it tuned Friday but, most likely i will run it on the basr tune and then get the tune sometime next week.
I still have to complete a few finishing items on the car like trim, engine covers, and put the interior back together. I am taking friday off the clean up the car and try and score some meth!! If anyone is interested in a small detail day in southern CT on Friday PM me.

Thanks again for all the help and support. I will most likely be posting videos and pics by friday.
Evan

[AudiSportB5S4]

Nice man! Don't rush the car for Waterfest unless you had plans of making your way down the 1/4.. No need to rush things and risk anything happening just for a show if your car is sitting in exhibition..

Great work during the whole thing! Looking forward to seeing the car either way!

[gearhead1186]

Nice man! Don't rush the car for Waterfest unless you had plans of making your way down the 1/4.. No need to rush things and risk anything happening just for a show if your car is sitting in exhibition..

Great work during the whole thing! Looking forward to seeing the car either way!

+1

[as4driver]

Nice man! Don't rush the car for Waterfest unless you had plans of making your way down the 1/4.. No need to rush things and risk anything happening just for a show if your car is sitting in exhibition..

Great work during the whole thing! Looking forward to seeing the car either way!

Im not really in a rush but i had a time frame and i think i did a damn good job of sticking to it. As of right now thew car will be at WF. I hope to see many of you there. By H2O it will be fully tuned and ready to party!!!

[gearhead1186]

cant wait to cruise to WF.

[jameskkk3]

hell ya mikey lets go get poopey

[dougyfresh]

Im not really in a rush but i had a time frame and i think i did a damn good job of sticking to it. As of right now thew car will be at WF. I hope to see many of you there. By H2O it will be fully tuned and ready to party!!!

Good to hear Evan. Great Job! I'll be there on Sunday.

[dougyfresh]

Heard you stopped by the AZ tent at WF on Sunday. Sorry I missed you. Was chatting with a friend over in the car show area. Let me know next time you're at EPL and I'll come down to say hi to both you and Tony.

[as4driver]

Sorry i missed you car looked GREAT!!

[Evilevo]

It was great to meet you Evan. Your car looked good. Hopefully you can get your dialed in soon!

Here is a pic!

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o169/ajbortz/Waterfest%2016/_DSC2430.jpg

[dougyfresh]

Sorry i missed you car looked GREAT!!

Yeah. No worries.

Thanks. It was filthy from a week of beating on it. I had no time to wash it before I drove down for the day. Putting a new A/C condensor in this weekend so I'll finally have A/C again.

[AMC]

happy birthday evan

[shorterthanrich]

Awesome build, man. Totally beautiful!

What did you use to paint your block? I'm thinking about painting mine, too...

[jameskkk3]

karting SOON!!!!

[gearhead1186]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh8WbSfdISE

[jameskkk3]

hahahha good stuff

[Don Supreme]

No tune yet?

[as4driver]

Waterfest went relatively smoothly, seeing that i had 20 miles on the car before we left. The coolant line going to my block popped off in the middle of time square (dont ask). When i got to waterfest i was able to find a clip to hold the hose on at the show.

The car still has serious starter noise. I have put around 800 miles on it with the base tune and the car has yet to leave me stranded. I have been DDing the car because my miata is down for an unexpected engine build.

On an awkward note my hood cable must of fallen off so now i cant pop my hood. Anyone have a solution?????
I plan on having my Audi Tech drop the tranny this weekend while i am on vacation. After i sort out these minor issues i will get my tune. Hopefully it will be sometime next week.

Here are a few pics from WF: Imola:ME Laser: JamesKKK3 Silver: GearHead
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TE-Nc9DvxUI/AAAAAAAABTU/NORGqXtpieY/s640/100_2514.JPG

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TE-NdQqJmvI/AAAAAAAABTY/Why2z57FoFE/s640/100_2515.JPG
Gearhead rockin the beater which left a very embarrassing tan line. LMAO
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/TE-NeZ0omWI/AAAAAAAABTg/s33YAxmW4ag/s640/100_2522.JPG

When i find out what is wrong with the starter i will def post an update. For now wish me good luck!!

Evan

[gearhead1186]

ha great times.

http://blog.ecosmart.com/wp-content/water-jug-239x300.jpg

def let me know about karting next week. im taking next thursday off so if you have EPL tune your car thursday ill come up and take some videos/pictures because I need to take to the guys over there about running a second 044 inline vs running them in parallel.

[Evilevo]

ha great times.

http://blog.ecosmart.com/wp-content/water-jug-239x300.jpg

def let me know about karting next week. im taking next thursday off so if you have EPL tune your car thursday ill come up and take some videos/pictures because I need to take to the guys over there about running a second 044 inline vs running them in parallel.

Run them in parallel. Only run a second one inline if you need to run 5BAR FP. Inline just helps keep the pressure up. In parallel will actually flow a lot more fuel.

[gearhead1186]

Run them in parallel. Only run a second one inline if you need to run 5BAR FP. Inline just helps keep the pressure up. In parallel will actually flow a lot more fuel.

yea i think we spoke about this before. ideally running them in parallel would be better since it effectively doubles the flow. but with simplicity in mind, running them in series would double pump head/psi and should still provide me with the fuel I need since flow is also partially increased. AMD's 770 car ran two 044s in series and so did another 770 car EPL tuned. Ill have to BS with them a bit and then Ill decide. Anyways back on topic..

[as4driver]

OOO! Fuel Pumps. Figure out why my hood wont pop!!! LOL

[Evilevo]

OOO! Fuel Pumps. Figure out why my hood wont pop!!! LOL

Did your latch in the grill break?

I saw that happen on a friends car. If it did, you can pop the grill out with the hood closed than open the hood from there.

[BoostinonYOU]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

and its a pain!!

[gearhead1186]

radiator doesnt get in the way?

[as4driver]

Hey Guys,

Sorry for the lack of progress in the thread. I wanted to make sure i had news to post regarding the starting issue. It turned out that i was missing one of the dowel pins that goes in the hole where the bolt goes through the bell housing into the starter. This was causing the starter to be off center. The car starts normally now (a little long but at least it starts). The only issues i want to sort out now are small boost leaks and figure out why my boost gauge doesnt work, i think the line is pintched. Also, i need to check my car for codes to see if there is anything irregular.

Unfortunatly, Tony at EPL is on vaca untill the 15th, so tuning will have to happen that week. I am going to have these issues sorted out sometime this week.

On a side note my miata motor spun a rod bearing so that is in build mode as well. Bad timing but at least i have a car to drive.

Evan

[bigern45]

when it rains it, pours brother...

[gearhead1186]

glad to hear you got it worked out.

[97B518TQM]

I have the same starting sound. I replaced the starter 3 times and made sure it sits perfectly before tightening it. I still can't get rid of the noise. I am glad you got yours fixed, I wish mine would go away somehow.

[as4driver]

Ur problem sounds very similar to mine, make sure you have both of the dowel pins. If you do then the only other option is the flywheel. Good luck let me know if i can help at all.

[as4driver]

I drove the car today and it seems to be performing very well i am seeing like 20-23lbs of boost but the rev limit is set at 5000rpm. So its like ready to party...then i hit the limiter. The tune is set for 19th but i am going to try and push it up a little. I will be sure to post dyno charts and LOGS soon after the tune.

Best,
Evan

[97B518TQM]

You know, I really don't remember if both dowel pins are there. I know one is there for sure because I was able to see if with the starter off but I don't remember about the other one. I know the starter feels like it sits on top of one of them perfectly because I was able to leave it attached on the dowel pin alone and it wouldn't move. I don't remember if the other one was there though as I was able to rotate it somewhat freely to fit the upper bolt through. Hmm... I really don't feel like taking the starter out again, especially when my car is finally all together. I can loosen the bolts holding the starter and try to move the starter around, see if the dowel pins are both there and aligning it but if they are not I will be SOL, unless I just tighten it at a good position, perfectly centered as if the dowel pin is there.

The flywheel is a newly resurfaced dual mass flywheel I got from Vast. I made sure it's nice and tight on there, torqued it to spec... I really don't see where I could have messed up there. I also don't see how the starter being misaligned can produce such a screeching sounds at startup, I would have expected a loud grinding noise instead of this "belt-slipping" sound. However, it's definitely from that area and your solution to the problem seems to confirm that's the cause so I will try to fix it somehow, the least painful way :)
Thanks for the help with this.

[gearhead1186]

I drove the car today and it seems to be performing very well i am seeing like 20-23lbs of boost but the rev limit is set at 5000rpm. So its like ready to party...then i hit the limiter. The tune is set for 19th but i am going to try and push it up a little. I will be sure to post dyno charts and LOGS soon after the tune.

Best,
Evan

nice. wish I could make it but from the 16th to the end of august I'll be busy at work. are you taking off to be there or no?

[as4driver]

Mike did u get my text?? i am going to try and take a day off that week to get it tune.

Check the Dowel pin man mine sounded almost exactly like urs. GL

[flyingfish2626]

I drove the car today and it seems to be performing very well i am seeing like 20-23lbs of boost but the rev limit is set at 5000rpm. So its like ready to party...then i hit the limiter. The tune is set for 19th but i am going to try and push it up a little. I will be sure to post dyno charts and LOGS soon after the tune.

Best,
Evan
Please post some logs when you get them, waiting for my tune for my 605's also, hopefully next week.

[Don Supreme]

I drove the car today and it seems to be performing very well i am seeing like 20-23lbs of boost but the rev limit is set at 5000rpm. So its like ready to party...then i hit the limiter. The tune is set for 19th but i am going to try and push it up a little. I will be sure to post dyno charts and LOGS soon after the tune.

Best,
Evan

What RPM are you hitting 23? How does the low end feel, pretty sad or moves along fine?

[as4driver]

low end feels good. Spool is good. I am seeing between 20-22 hold at like 3800rpm or so and then it kicks out at 5k

[as4driver]

Update here:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/381291-Hole-in-my-Intercooler!!!

[Bimmerchop]

Damn...

[as4driver]

IC is being welded tomorrow by 666 fabrication in Milford CT. Should be back up and running by tomorrow night

[AudiSportB5S4]

IC is being welded tomorrow by 666 fabrication in Milford CT. Should be back up and running by tomorrow night

Good stuff Evan... Still waiting on the tune?

[as4driver]

Thursday!! Good ole hole in the IC gets me everytime. LMAO

[bigern45]

curious, you had a stage 3 EPL tuned car before.. why did you get rid of it just to do another stage 3+ build??

cant wait to see some videos brother!!

[as4driver]

I sold my nogaro car becuase someone offered me crazy money for it. I was planning on buying a 996 turbo but i couldnt justify the expense. In all honesty i should have kept my other s4, it was perfect.

[as4driver]

I sold my nogaro car becuase someone offered me crazy money for it. I was planning on buying a 996 turbo but i couldnt justify the expense. In all honesty i should have kept my other s4, it was perfect.

[Don Supreme]

Nogaro is where its at :-)

[as4driver]

Agreed!!!

[ubermidget]

I regret selling my rs6 s4 everyday...just means I gotta go bigger and better on this one

P.s. cars lookin sick

[ubermidget]

I regret selling my rs6 s4 everyday...just means I gotta go bigger and better on this one

P.s. cars lookin sick

[Don Supreme]

I hope this car is getting tuned today..

[AudiSportB5S4]

I hope this car is getting tuned today..

Same!! [drive]

[bigern45]

updates??

[as4driver]

I was having missfire problems due to a faulty o2 sensor so EPL was able to install a new one today and through the car on the dyno late in the day. The car is making power with no issues but tony needs more time to dial it in. I will be posting a more exciting update tomorrow. They had 90+ degree shop temps today :(

Thanks for the support,
Evan

[Evilevo]

I was having missfire problems due to a faulty o2 sensor so EPL was able to install a new one today and through the car on the dyno late in the day. The car is making power with no issues but tony needs more time to dial it in. I will be posting a more exciting update tomorrow. They had 90+ degree shop temps today :(

Thanks for the support,
Evan

Sucks about the missfire, but glad that it is making power.

BTW, I think you still have my mechanics gloves from Waterfest, lol

[as4driver]

Im glad the missfires are sorted.

I was pretty drunk most of waterfest, i remember using gloves on agrons car but they did not make it home with me. You might have to take that up with Mr. AMC.

[Evilevo]

Im glad the missfires are sorted.

I was pretty drunk most of waterfest, i remember using gloves on agrons car but they did not make it home with me. You might have to take that up with Mr. AMC.

LOL. I'm not gonna worry about it. I needed new ones anyway.

Keep me/us informed about what goes on with your car!

[gearhead1186]

i really wish i could make it up there to watch them tune. very tempting to catch a cold tomorrow.

[bigern45]

i really wish i could make it up there to watch them tune. very tempting to catch a cold tomorrow.

..me too, i should have started my cold 2 days ago if i had planned correctly..

DAMNIT!!!

[Evilevo]

i really wish i could make it up there to watch them tune. very tempting to catch a cold tomorrow.

Haha. If EPL wasnt so far, i would go too!

[gearhead1186]

..me too, i should have started my cold 2 days ago if i had planned correctly..

DAMNIT!!!

a little suspicious to get sick on a friday lol. when u making the trip again? you should def come for WF next year.

[BENI_BOY]

LOL. I'm not gonna worry about it. I needed new ones anyway.

Keep me/us informed about what goes on with your car!

haha those pos gloves are like finger puppets to me lol.. you know what they say about people with small hands

[Evilevo]

haha those pos gloves are like finger puppets to me lol.. you know what they say about people with small hands

They dont drive scooters :P

[as4driver]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs282.snc4/40444_423607289773_151673719773_4635491_3620712_n. jpg

[gearhead1186]

^ i hate you. i think im starting to feel sick. http://forums.randi.org/images/smilies/eusasmiles/eusa_sick.gif

[as4driver]

Don't hate, appreciate!! Gunnin for 500whp tomorrow morning!!

[Evilevo]

Don't hate, appreciate!! Gunnin for 500whp tomorrow morning!!

O man!!!! Is the TiAL 605 car gonna make more than the TiAL 770R car?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


on a side note, i do not remember how much Mike made, lol

[gearhead1186]

Don't hate, appreciate!! Gunnin for 500whp tomorrow morning!!

i want live updates texted to me.

[Evilevo]

i want live updates texted to me.

I can haz texts forwarded to me?

[gearhead1186]

O man!!!! Is the TiAL 605 car gonna make more than the TiAL 770R car?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


on a side note, i do not remember how much Mike made, lol

as I stand now, he should make more than me... he better. actually im not making anything now lol.



I can haz texts forwarded to me?

yes sir.

[Evilevo]

as I stand now, he should make more than me... he better.

Haha. What did you make again? BTW, i got an email coming your way soon

[gearhead1186]

Haha. What did you make again? BTW, i got an email coming your way soon

i had them stop around 510 since I was on granny suspension and brakes. plus I needed a bigger MAF and more fuel pump to finish the pump gas tune anyways. It was pretty much just to get me off the base tune.

[Evilevo]

i had them stop around 510 since I was on granny suspension and brakes. plus I needed a bigger MAF and more fuel pump to finish the pump gas tune anyways. It was pretty much just to get me off the base tune.

That's right. Still good power.

Email sent [;)]

[bigern45]

a little suspicious to get sick on a friday lol. when u making the trip again? you should def come for WF next year.

plan to if i can finish up my exterior issues, ie. dime dents, lowered suspension, powder coated wheels and such.. im REALLY liking my occasional ride on 109!!.. so maybe i clean up the outside a little and wait to go GT or 770's...


http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs282.snc4/40444_423607289773_151673719773_4635491_3620712_n. jpg

car looks super clean bro, really nice pic.. .. seeing a B5 S4 on that dyno brings me back to the good ole' days!!!

[Bimmerchop]

Ah!!! I completely forgot you were heading out to the shop for your tune today. [headbang]

If you're there tomorrow I'll swing by around lunch

[as4driver]

Im not gunna be there tomorrow. I have to work to support this addiction!! If you go be sure to take video and pics.

Going to bed, Good night AZ

EP

[gearhead1186]

lets hear something...

[Evilevo]

UPDATES!!!!!!!












lol

[as4driver]

It looks like EPL is going to need another day with the car. They are making like 470whp but tony wants to add more boost on monday. This is like torture but, i would rather they take their time and dial in the tune and make the most power possible.

Will have updates on monday!!

[Don Supreme]

Do you know how much boost so far?

[as4driver]

I think 25ish. They had to swap in a bigger boost gauge to add more. Im hoping to see close to 30psi when all is said and done, but that may be optimistic.

[gearhead1186]

weather tomorrow looks promising. although its gonna be humid, 73* high looks good.

[as4driver]

UPDATE!!

I was supposed to bring my car to EPL last monday for tuning. I had to have the hole in the IC repared so i did not get the car there until thursday. Needless to say they need a few more days with the car because i was late getting the car to them. I totally understand and i am willing to wait. Look like the next update will be more exciting. Im hoping to have dyno sheets and Logs on wednesday. As soon as i have them i will post them up.

Evan

[gearhead1186]

UPDATE!!

I was supposed to bring my car to EPL last monday for tuning. I had to have the hole in the IC repared so i did not get the car there until thursday. Needless to say they need a few more days with the car because i was late getting the car to them. I totally understand and i am willing to wait. Look like the next update will be more exciting. Im hoping to have dyno sheets and Logs on wednesday. As soon as i have them i will post them up.

Evan

agreed. wats another couple days after all the hard work you've put in?

[Bimmerchop]

Tsk tsk, damn intercooler. I stopped by the shop today hoping to see some dyno action but nada...

[AudiSportB5S4]

Tsk tsk, damn intercooler. I stopped by the shop today hoping to see some dyno action but nada...

Since you and Evan are close, are you two planning on a friendly pull between the two? It would be interesting to see a car tuned by the same guy on the same dyno and the difference be the TiALs. [drive]

[BENI_BOY]

Since you and Evan are close, are you two planning on a friendly pull between the two? It would be interesting to see a car tuned by the same guy on the same dyno and the difference be the TiALs. [drive]

ill pull on both of them lol jk ill like to see that too! Rich needs meth tho

[gearhead1186]

Since you and Evan are close, are you two planning on a friendly pull between the two? It would be interesting to see a car tuned by the same guy on the same dyno and the difference be the TiALs. [drive]

+1. I can roll the camera http://www.deltalf.com/forum/images/smilies/nice_smilies/camera.gif

[Bimmerchop]

ill pull on both of them lol jk ill like to see that too! Rich needs meth tho
Yea I do [=(] , The $ I had saved for meth went towards new tires this summer... if I sell my bimmer soon though, I'll have some cash to play around with before the winter [drive]

[as4driver]

Im always down for some pulls!!!

[jameskkk3]

dont worry me and even are like 10 mins away from echore well get some good footage of some pulls of a k04 with meth tunes by epl vs epl tial tuned at least ill be looking at an imola bumper haha

[Don Supreme]

dont worry me and even are like 10 mins away from echore well get some good footage of some pulls of a k04 with meth tunes by epl vs epl tial tuned at least ill be looking at an imola bumper haha

Looking forward to this!

[Don Supreme]

Updates........

[gearhead1186]

http://inlinethumb29.webshots.com/44316/2648281440103989424S425x425Q85.jpg

[Tony@EPL]

Sub 3 second fats 84f and 80+ humidity. Ill take it =).

[as4driver]

Tony feel free to post logs, dynos, pics, vids, anything!!! Thanks for the update.

[gearhead1186]

congrats man. now i gotta find a way up there to get a ride.

[Evilevo]

congrats man. now i gotta find a way up there to get a ride.

You know. You could put your car back together.

[Evilevo]

Tony feel free to post logs, dynos, pics, vids, anything!!! Thanks for the update.

Yes! Let's see some logs and power and dyno curves

[as4driver]

Evan Sits patiently at work waiting for a dyno sheet...

[as4driver]

I have no proof but i talked to Robin at EPL today and he said the car made 497 whp @ 30 psi. I cannot confirm this but i should have dyno sheets and logs tomorrow.

[AudiSportB5S4]

I have no proof but i talked to Robin at EPL today and he said the car made 497 whp @ 30 psi. I cannot confirm this but i should have dyno sheets and logs tomorrow.

Nice! Boy that's a lot of boost haha

[laxman851]

*thumbs up*

[Bimmerchop]

I hope you know you're taking me for a ride

no homo

[Don Supreme]

Fantastic!

[as4driver]

Finally, Rich asked me to take him for a ride. Dream come true.


Oh No Homo!!

[Dr. Jekyll]

Nice Evan! Post up that dyno chart and some logs! I'm very interested to see how your build turns out since I may be going that same direction. I'm not sure if I want to build the block yet or not... but your results are very convincing haha

I'm gonna be stopping by EPL the friday before labor day weekend (September 3rd), any chance you'll be around?

[as4driver]

I will try and make myself available its been a long time man. I hope all is well.

Honestly the rods are there for safety. i wanted to make 500whp without the risk of detonation and we got damn close!!!

[gearhead1186]

I will try and make myself available its been a long time man. I hope all is well.

Honestly the rods are there for safety. i wanted to make 500whp without the risk of detonation and we got damn close!!!

You made 500whp in my book. Throw it on the rollers on a cool day with no humidity and Im sure you will be closer to 510.

[Dr. Jekyll]

If it were 10 degrees cooler out, you'll easily be at 500whp :-) I'm still debating if I want to go with rods or just keep it on a stock block and cross my fingers haha. But 500 whp is also my goal.

Yea, it's defintiely been a while... I miss hanging out down there with all you guys on the weekends. Everything is going well. Finally finished with all my initial training and settling into Fort Drum, NY. Beautiful area but it seems like fall is already hitting us up here. I'm sure the snow will soon follow :-/ I think it's about time I pick up an SUV daily driver haha.

[Dr. Jekyll]

Mike, you should come hang out friday too :-)

[gearhead1186]

Mike, you should come hang out friday too :-)

Ill try and leave work earlier and make the trip. Hard to believe last time I saw you was when I was deciding on a clutch for my 605s.

[as4driver]

Im thinking karting that fri night!!! Anyone

[flyingfish2626]

Evan, you should be super happy. I should have done rods, just kidding. I cant even imagine 100 horse more than what I am running now. Really wish I was at sea-level. Your car must be a monster around town.

[as4driver]

I am very happy. I plan on dynoing it again in the winter for fun. We will see how much of a difference the temp and humidity make.

[Dr. Jekyll]

haha, tell me about it. I haven't been down there for close to a year now :-/ I'm trying to get kp and greg (actlsub9) to come by as well. I haven't seen those guys in forever either.


Evan, I'm definitely down for karting (and beer after?). I'm gonna get a hotel room somewhere down that way friday night, so I'll be around.

[Bimmerchop]

Did someone say gaetanos? http://forum.e46fanatics.com/images/smilies/icon9.gif

[Dr. Jekyll]

dude, that goes without saying! EPL = gaetanos run. You gonna stop by too Rich?

[Bimmerchop]

Most likely, no reason not to [:D]

[Mattgfx]

I hope you know you're taking me for a ride

no homo

u stole the words right out of my mouth

[as4driver]

LOGS:

3rd gear pull, 2 people. We ran consistant back to back low3 second fats and a best of 2.90!!!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/THkgWy9aibI/AAAAAAAABV4/pSLpZLhNzsA/Boost.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/THkgXH8j-pI/AAAAAAAABVA/R3qwjKJHKNY/BoostFreqValve.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/THkgXnzvHMI/AAAAAAAABVE/T6QfhevUFMQ/MAF.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/THkgXsAxTCI/AAAAAAAABVI/QXpknmt12H8/IAT.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/THkgYAvPmaI/AAAAAAAABVM/Q3zv13hBfEI/IgnitionTiming.JPG
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/THkgYabhpHI/AAAAAAAABVQ/leFPZmg3PCY/KnockVoltage.JPG
http://lh3.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/THkgYpAXHsI/AAAAAAAABVU/o7veToH89Wg/TimingRetard.JPG
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/THkgZScKSUI/AAAAAAAABVg/Uj_DKMXJPYg/Speed.JPG
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_dmulP8Mw3FA/THkgaIEAChI/AAAAAAAABVo/PougvGMlpqg/FATS.JPG

[Don Supreme]

Is that typical s605 spool?

[Dr. Jekyll]

Hey Evan, how does WOT compare to your old stage 3? Also, how are the 605's for around town driving? Any noticable difference between them and k04's?

[AudiSportB5S4]

Hey Evan, how does WOT compare to your old stage 3? Also, how are the 605's for around town driving? Any noticable difference between them and k04's?

I obviously can't speak for these turbos, but driving a BT car in general (GT2871) the around town lag you won't feel.. It's when you roll onto throttle you'll notice any difference. I personally don't boost around town, I stay in vacuum. I'm sure it's something you can just adapt you and you'd be fine..

You planning on the 605s soon too right?

[Dr. Jekyll]

Yea I'm usually in vac too. 5psi at most. That's good to hear though. I've always wondered how different the daily driver characteristics change with bigger turbos.

I'm thinking about 605's. I haven't fully decided yet, but there is a good chance I'll go with them. I'm still unsure if I want to go with rods or not. But at most it will be 605's and rods (same as Evan's build). I have to do a timing belt and swap downpipes as well as replace my shifter linkages and fix upper and lower oil pan leaks. So it's probably best to just pull the engine to do all that. And while I'm in there I might as well replace (or at least rebuild) my high milage K04's [:D]

[gearhead1186]

Here is an acceleration graph from that same log.

http://inlinethumb02.webshots.com/1857/2014639350103989424S600x600Q85.jpg

[Evilevo]

Here is an acceleration graph from that same log.

http://inlinethumb02.webshots.com/1857/2014639350103989424S600x600Q85.jpg

Not bad, not bad.

Mike, can you overlay his with your logs?

[gearhead1186]

Not bad, not bad.

Mike, can you overlay his with your logs?

I would but unfortunately for my car I only have the .jpg graphs from EPL. I dont have the actual data and I took my car apart 2 days after I got ECUx so I never took logs of my own. Maybe Ill pull some fancy photoshop magic..

[as4driver]

Hey guys,

Im still sorting out some issues with the car. I feel the issue is related to a boost leak somewhere in the system. I will say that the 605s are laggier than ko4s but it is to be expected. I plan on going back to EPL in a week or so for a revision and for them to check over the car. The idle is very smooth and the acceleration is bind blowing. On the first pull my eyes got blurry and i couldn't believe i already had to shift!!! The 3-5th gear pull is leaps and bounds over a ko4 car.

Honestly, its a work in progress and soon enough it will be 100% dialed in. All i need now is some time. Thanks for the support. Will have more logs when the temp cools down a bit.

Evan

[Evilevo]

Hey guys,

Im still sorting out some issues with the car. I feel the issue is related to a boost leak somewhere in the system. I will say that the 605s are laggier than ko4s but it is to be expected. I plan on going back to EPL in a week or so for a revision and for them to check over the car. The idle is very smooth and the acceleration is bind blowing. On the first pull my eyes got blurry and i couldn't believe i already had to shift!!! The 3-5th gear pull is leaps and bounds over a ko4 car.

Honestly, its a work in progress and soon enough it will be 100% dialed in. All i need now is some time. Thanks for the support. Will have more logs when the temp cools down a bit.

Evan

Evan, I know exactly what you are talking about. Doing something as extreme as GTs or Tials, there will always be a decent amount of time to get everything running 100%.

The Accel graphs really dont show just how HARD the car pulls. My accell graphs peak at .60g in 3rd, yet i put 3 cars on a 540AWHP 996TT. And they weigh like 3200-3300lbs. And my car is like 3560lbs. And that was with me at 25psi on my mild file, not even my race file which is more aggressive. My Logs and FATS times would show that I am not much faster than a stage 3 car, but it is leaps and bounds faster than my RS6 car was.

I'm glad you are enjoying your car, cause in the end, fuck all the haters, that is what it is about. You enjoying your car.

Hopefully we can meet up again and shoot the shit, I had a good time at WF.

-Adam

[gearhead1186]

Evan, I know exactly what you are talking about. Doing something as extreme as GTs or Tials, there will always be a decent amount of time to get everything running 100%.

The Accel graphs really dont show just how HARD the car pulls. My accell graphs peak at .60g in 3rd, yet i put 3 cars on a 540AWHP 996TT. And they weigh like 3200-3300lbs. And my car is like 3560lbs. And that was with me at 25psi on my mild file, not even my race file which is more aggressive. My Logs and FATS times would show that I am not much faster than a stage 3 car, but it is leaps and bounds faster than my RS6 car was.

I'm glad you are enjoying your car, cause in the end, fuck all the haters, that is what it is about. You enjoying your car.

Hopefully we can meet up again and shoot the shit, I had a good time at WF.

-Adam

yes! do you have the logs of your .6g accel. Id love to see how it compares to the other 25psi log you sent me .

[Evilevo]

yes! do you have the logs of your .6g accel. Id love to see how it compares to the other 25psi log you sent me .

I'll have to look. I dont remember exactly which log it was in, lol.

I'm up in Niagara Falls right now, and about to go out. So i'll check when i get a chance and shoot them over to you

[as4driver]

Evan, I know exactly what you are talking about. Doing something as extreme as GTs or Tials, there will always be a decent amount of time to get everything running 100%.

The Accel graphs really dont show just how HARD the car pulls. My accell graphs peak at .60g in 3rd, yet i put 3 cars on a 540AWHP 996TT. And they weigh like 3200-3300lbs. And my car is like 3560lbs. And that was with me at 25psi on my mild file, not even my race file which is more aggressive. My Logs and FATS times would show that I am not much faster than a stage 3 car, but it is leaps and bounds faster than my RS6 car was.

I'm glad you are enjoying your car, cause in the end, fuck all the haters, that is what it is about. You enjoying your car.

Hopefully we can meet up again and shoot the shit, I had a good time at WF.

-Adam

Thanks man. Everyday i fix and or tweak something the car is running very well as of now. I hope u plan on going to H20 its in ur back yard!!! Thanks for adding some positivity to the thread.

Best,
Evan

[Evilevo]

Thanks man. Everyday i fix and or tweak something the car is running very well as of now. I hope u plan on going to H20 its in ur back yard!!! Thanks for adding some positivity to the thread.

Best,
Evan

NP man. I know I got a LOT of flack for my car not making 700awhp yet, and I can understand that expectations are high for all these builds. I had high expectations for my car too, but shit happens and I just dont have the cash to do EVERYTHING that i want/need to do to make the big power. And these things take time, especially when they aren't a shop car, or a shop that stays at a shop till everything is perfect.

I will be at H20i for sure, whether my car is running or not. If it isn't, we will be in the GFs GTi. If you want, PM me your number.

-Adam

[gearhead1186]

2 EPL cars this weekend from SFest 2010 (http://www.sfest.com/index.html)

http://www.sfest.com/gallery/albums/maciek_2010/normal_IMG_5115.jpg

http://www.sfest.com/gallery/albums/maciek_2010/normal_IMG_5116.jpg

http://www.sfest.com/gallery/albums/maciek_2010/normal_IMG_5087.jpg

http://www.sfest.com/gallery/albums/maciek_2010/normal_IMG_5131.jpg

http://www.sfest.com/gallery/albums/maciek_2010/normal_IMG_5130.jpg

[Evilevo]

Looks good. Needs moar low

[EtownS4]

Someone needs to convince Dave P. to throw 770's on his car. Everytime I see him I tell him to do so and I think if I do it just once more I might see one of the most laid back people whoop my ass. Car is always clean and a DD. Just doesn't make sense. When are yall going to be down at EPL? I need to put some faces to the names.

[gearhead1186]

Someone needs to convince Dave P. to throw 770's on his car. Everytime I see him I tell him to do so and I think if I do it just once more I might see one of the most laid back people whoop my ass. Car is always clean and a DD. Just doesn't make sense. When are yall going to be down at EPL? I need to put some faces to the names.

i might come down Friday after work. I think evan is trying to get some guys together to go karting. you in?

off topic, hows the tranny?

[EtownS4]

Ended up shipping it to Stasis. I think it was too much of an investment to buy the oven and all the other bullshit associated. Hopefully get it back somewhat soon. Stoptechs and ER's are in the process of being put on the car so small baby steps. Hopefully we can get it all done some what soon but who knows.

I can meet up at EPL but don't think I can make it to carting however. We shall see.

[as4driver]

Hey Guys,


Time for a karting event!! Friday (tomorrow) night. We will be meeting at EPL between 4:30-5:00 then heading to karting at around 6:00. If you dont want to meet at EPL, meet us at On Track Karting in Wallingford at 6:00. I plan on doing 3 races and then grabbing some dinner and beer. Please let me know if you will be attending and how many people you are bringing ASAP, I'm going to try and reserve the heats for our group only. Should be a great time!!


call me tonight if u have questions 860-388-7728

[Dr. Jekyll]

I'll be there :-)

Any suggestions on where I should be looking to get a hotel room? Do you think we'll be going out around Wallingford after karting? Since I'm drivng 6 hours to get to EPL tomorrow, I'd rather not drive too far tomorrow night to get to a place to crash haha.

[dougyfresh]

I'll be there :-)

Any suggestions on where I should be looking to get a hotel room? Do you think we'll be going out around Wallingford after karting? Since I'm drivng 6 hours to get to EPL tomorrow, I'd rather not drive too far tomorrow night to get to a place to crash haha.

Tony can't help you out?

[Dr. Jekyll]

I haven't asked him. I'm probably just gonna fly by the seat of my pants and find something when I get there.

[as4driver]

Kev, if u want you can always crash at my place. Im Sure there are a shitload of hotels in the area through. See u tomorrow at EPL!!!

[as4driver]

Doug u commin!!!???

[Bimmerchop]

I won't be making it to karting, but I'll swing by the shop later this afternoon

[gearhead1186]

with all the weekend traffic ill probably be at EPL around 630

[Don Supreme]

with all the weekend traffic ill probably be at EPL around 630

For re-tune or just meet location?

[gearhead1186]

For re-tune or just meet location?

just to meet up. still got some stuff to do before its ready for the final pump tune.

[AudiSportB5S4]

Evan, have you done a 60-130 yet in this car? I'd love to see what it does to compare it to an RS6 car :)