Anyone have a MotoDyne Supercharged 4.2 S4?

[TheBlueMartin]

Im just interested to see. They dont list a price, but a lot of people have been asking about it. I just wonder if anyone has stepped up to do it yet??

http://www.motodyne.com/frames/audi_s4-v8.html

[B6 S4 is BRZRKR]

I just sent them a request for info. Thanks for the link. We'll see what happens.

[CTOM9]

Originally posted by B6 S4 is BRZRKR
I just sent them a request for info. Thanks for the link. We'll see what happens.

ditto.

[DolphinV8]

too expensive imo

[jimmyrecluse]

Motodyne is a guy called Robert Hack. I heard he has ripped many people off.

[tuned s4]

Friday I took my s4 to motodyne to be fitted with a supercharger. First I want to note prior to the purchase of this supercharger I contacted an S8 owner who has been running the motodyne kit for over a year. He told me he experienced no drivability issues or trouble with the car. Now I made a similar inquiry in the Audiworld D2 forum and was chastised for asking.
When I talked to Rob, the owner of Motodyne about the system he went into detail about the system for over an hour, he told me I could expect about 502hp and an ungodly amount of torque. In short; i think he knew i didn't understand everything he was talking about... so his words to me were and i quote.
" I originally built this kit for myself not the audiworld enthusiast market, my goal was to make as much reliable horsepower as possible, being it's my 24 application i wanted to challenge myself and set a benchmark in it's design knowing how many of my competitors will be watching. The system should be priced at 30 thousand dollars and would still sell heavily in Europe and the Arab countries. But guys from Michigan and Texas will send in emails crying about it's price, heck they're already bitching that it's 11 and change".

I'll report my ride home when i go back to pick up the car, cheers

Walter
Chemtech LLC

05 Audi s4
04 Cayenne S



[drive]

[4ingDrive]

Originally posted by jimmyrecluse
Motodyne is a guy called Robert Hack. I heard he has ripped many people off.

He has ripped off many. I'd stay away from him. Do a search on AW and you'll see how many friends he has.

[tuned s4]

4ingdrive and jimmyrecluse:
I guess I should be worried as my car is sitting at motodyne prepaid for a supercharger install.

I'm asking you both what were your experiences with motodyne, in short what did you buy and how were you treated.

Walter [wrench]

[4ingDrive]

Did you do the search on aw for starters. Try "robert hack" and "motodyne". Also search on Rennlist he has friends there too. He's made claims on products like this before and has not delivered. I'd be very afraid for my car if I were you.

[tuned s4]

So that's your first hand experience, just an audiworld search. A group that's running a known smear campaign on such companies.

I think your posts are clearly the same, all based on lies to make a company look bad.

Here are the facts from another audiworld motodyne customer

"In the 4 years of existence motodyne shows one complaint with the BBB , and it's been resolved"

[CTOM9]

Tuned - how much is this costing you? Are they also doing the labor?

CHris

[tuned s4]

13 grand, they are fitting the car as i write this. I'm anxious to drive it after they are done.
Walter

[madrussian]

just a sidenote, the fact that they have no complaints w/ the BBB doesn't mean they have good service. i for one know a handful of companies who gave me terrible experience and only resolved the issue after i threatened to complain to the BBB...

so take that with a grain of salt. im not bad mounthing motodyne, ive never had anything to do w/ them, but just letting you know.

btw, you're drawing your facts from AW as are the guys telling you to stay away from motodyne, so dont complain when they say something... tis contradictory.

[CTOM9]

Originally posted by tuned s4
13 grand, they are fitting the car as i write this. I'm anxious to drive it after they are done.
Walter

CONGRATS!! :)

Can't wait to hear your impressions of it and the pwoer increases.

Did you do a "before" dyno? How long is break in before you do the "after" dyno?

[tuned s4]

I hear ya on the BBB point. That alone does not mean much, I looked for complaints online about repairs and the supercharger itself and found nothing. The only thing I repeatedly came across were the audiworld posts that stated "there is no 12v supercharger, there is no belt on the 4.2L supercharger". After contacting the authors of these posts. I got replies like: "well i never bought anything from them, but concluded they were bad from reading in audiworld"


How well a smear campaign works you might ask? Well I'd have to side with motodyne on this one it's truly amazing.

All Dutch/German site with English motodyne complaint (cut and pasted from Audiworld) followed by, PES tuning ad (sponsor of Audiworld).

http://asp.audi-club.dk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1958&#88508850

Walter

[4ingDrive]

Originally posted by tuned s4
So that's your first hand experience, just an audiworld search. A group that's running a know smear campaign on such companies.

I think your posts are clearly the same, all based on lies to make a company look bad.

Here are the facts from another audiworld motodyne customer

"In the 4 years of existence motodyne shows one complaint with the BBB , and it's been resolved"

How are my posts lies? I stated where to find some info. I do have a complaint filed, but not with the BBB. The BBB is bullshit. You can buy your way into that organization. I know from experience. Unfortunately, there is no one enforcing transactions taking place over the internet and this is where he has taken a lot of people I know personally and myself.

[JetBlue]

I have seen similar issues with AMD on AW. Major issues because they don't like the way he types his emails. A lot of conjecture with no real experience in the posts. I spoke with the guy frow AMD and he was very helpful and knew alot about the cars.

When I went to the AMD European site there were numerous awards for their work with Audi/VW. Because they were new to the US most people there just dismissed them.
MO

[AvantS4B6]

I give Tuned S4 credit for taking this plunge. Why anyone else jumps in here and badmouths is odd...

Good luck; we hope you are satisfied.

[sighpost]

Originally posted by tuned s4
I hear ya on the BBB point. That alone does not mean much, I looked for complaints online about repairs and the supercharger itself and found nothing. The only thing I repeatedly cam across were the audiworld posts that stated "there is no 12v supercharger, there is no belt on the 4.2L supercharger"...........

...........All Dutch/German site with English motodyne complaint (cut and pasted from Audiworld) followed by, PES tuning ad (sponsor of Audiworld).

http://asp.audi-club.dk/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1958&#88508850

Walter

They do the same thing with VAG-COM.

Man, you are gonna make some M3 owners cry with that kind of horse power.

[Satan4]

Oh god, I must have it.

[tuned s4]

I'm counting the days until I pick up the car . I just hope the roads are clear so I can get into the pedal.
Walter
I'm hooked on this [drive] guy, he does have his shift pattern down

[TheBlueMartin]

I didnt think I would start this kind of firestorm!
Ive personally seen a Motodyne 2.8 5V, and it ran like a bat out of hell. But it did have its running issues that never were solved, and the owner eventually removed the kit. However, the kit was installed by a shade-tree mechanic, so whos to say what the problem actually stemmed from..
I say, good luck with the car! Id love to see pics and hear how it runs. Ill be hella jelous if everything goes as planned!
Please keep us updated!

[4ingDrive]

Originally posted by AvantS4B6
I give Tuned S4 credit for taking this plunge. Why anyone else jumps in here and badmouths is odd...

Good luck; we hope you are satisfied.

Badmouths?! I was trying to look out for others on this forum. I hope things work out on the supercharger but this is a personal experience I had and others I know have had.

[madrussian]

wait wait wait... you're in ohio?

wtf from? im in ohio too. if you're close, you gotta let me get a ride!!!

[AvantS4B6]

Hey tuned S4, could you please let us know if you needed a new hood and/or intake manifold for fitment issues? Can we find out more info on this?...

[tuned s4]

Hey Guys,
The supercharger is inverted so it will sit inside the V of the motor I was told. I will get my factory Audi intake manifold back in a box along with the factory equipped sparkplugs, injectors and a few other items. The hood stays the same..... I'd most likely pass on the system otherwise. Although madmax's car was cool.... could you imagine a supercharger outside the hood of an Audi? I coudn't

I just recently sold my home in Portsmouth Ohio, and will move in April. The sale of my home probably invoked my decision to sink a few bucks into the s4 .
I will keep you posted

Walter
[drive]

[AvantS4B6]

Does it use an intercooler and if so air or water?

[JetBlue]

Sounds like the AMD system...
MO

[OverSpun]

i would NEVER buy from motodyne after the horror stories i read with their fabled "12v 2.8 supercharger" that never existed. that robert hack guy as far as i have read is a psycho and a con artist. thats just what ive read though.

[tuned s4]

Let me Guess you read this in Audiworld.

I'm driving a loaner a4 that has a supercharged 12v for two weeks until I pick up my s4. Tell that to the skeptics that motodyne lends out 12v supercharged a4's, and early a6's to customers.
So if they are correct everything sitting under the hood is an illusion.

I guess what i'm reading below must be true because it's published on the internet
http://www.cwrl.utexas.edu/~syverson/309-spring96/studentwork/project1/curtiss/THE_HOLOCAUST_NEVER_HA_377.html

[CTOM9]

TUNED S4 - at this point, (with your car in the shop) why even read any of the negative things said about Motodyne?

Do enough reading from enough sources and EVERY make and model of EVERY product will have its fair share of naysayers. As an example:

Before getting my Audi, I read a ton on complaints on audizine about problems with interior dials/knobs chipping and the black coating flaking. Then I read about horror stories with service quality. Hell, for that matter, my 1 month old S4 had a problem with a tail light out, a problem programming the memory in the driver's seat and now I am awaiting for my radio to be replaced. And yet, people still buy Audi's. With respect to my E46, some people have had nothing but horror stories, others haven't so much as had a squeak.

Also - you will always hear much more from the dissatisfied people than those that have no problems and thus no reason to post about it.

Bottom line - you did your research, you were confident in your decision - so don't sweat it.

What's done is done. He already gave the car in. Let's all just wish him the best and reserve opinions until after he gets the car back. Can't wait to hear your reactions to it. ENJOY!!

[ROUGHEDGES]

i do not trust that guy nor his shop. Back in the day when i was going to piece together a turbo kit(none out yet) i took my car to a "shop" We talked to this guy at motodyne. He was raving about a single turbo kit he had out for the s4. It was even on his website. He told us how he got the special software to unlock the factory ecu and change the programs to tune the car. Then a couple days later, we asked him to come by the shop with the turbo kit so i could take a look. Never showed, never emailed back, and hung up when i called him from different numbers. He obviously didnt have any kit even made. Just my 2 cents. I hope though, on the flip side, things turn out good for you. keep us updated on your expierence with motodyne.

[tuned s4]

That car your asking about is a single turbo 2001 s4, and it's real.
When I met Rob, he was bitching about guys like you, LOL "Said all they do is call obsessively, come in and take notes and go back to there tuning shop and make it, while S@$T talking on the person they stole it from in AW.

Take a look ROUGHEDGES at how people work these days. You must drive a Truck or work in Daycare, your definatly not in the retail business....
Gee I wonder how they came up with this idea?
http://www.ktrperformance.com/gallery/Project_Cars/KTR_S4/s4_main.htm

Here's ROUGHEDGES post from AW , with a fake company name speedtech in NJ to give his claims merit
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1351261.phtml

Pro motodyne for all the right reasons.
number one: how many people offer a satisfaction guarantee on a supercharger system,
Rob will

Regards
Walter

[halflife]

Originally posted by tuned s4
That car your asking about is a single turbo 2001 s4, and it's real.
When I met Rob, he was bitching about guys like you, LOL "Said all they do is call obsessively, come in and take notes and go back to there tuning shop and make it, while S@$T talking on the person they stole it from in AW.

Take a look ROUGHEDGES at how people work these days. You must drive a Truck or work in Daycare, your definatly not in the retail business....
Gee I wonder how they came up with this idea?
http://www.ktrperformance.com/gallery/Project_Cars/KTR_S4/s4_main.htm

Here's ROUGHEDGES post from AW , with a fake company name speedtech in NJ to give his claims merit
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1351261.phtml

Pro motodyne for all the right reasons.
number one: how many people offer a satisfaction guarantee on a supercharger system,
Rob will

Regards
Walter

Right on!!! good post.

bunch of negs on this board. he could bring a great product to the market for all of us regardless of this guys rep or he could get burnt and then we can all laugh at him. If u don't have anything nice to say keep it to yourself until we get some results. Why make this guy worry if he does not have too.

[4ingDrive]

Maybe you guys didn't read my post real well. I'm not "badmouthing" anyone. Fact is I paid for something I didn't recieve from him. Nor did I get anyone answering the phone at Motodyne. All I got was rude emails by him confirming he screwed me.

[tuned s4]

4ringdrive so what did you buy?

[ROUGHEDGES]

i am not talking crap. I am simply giving a situation that happened to me. And we called "once" and he was the one who was exicted to show off the product. I was pissed that i took a two hour drive for nothing. I even verfied it with my shop who had talked to him the day before. BTW speedtech is a real company. They have been for years now. My car was at speedtechs shop but WAS not being worked on by mark. It was being worked on by a individual that i will not mention his name. This guy robbed me for every rs4 part that could be on the engine. They only thing i actually got was my heads ported. He stole the parts out of my car once it was on the flatbed. I dont want to get into that anymore. So get all your info before you make a stupid post. I am not bashing. I am just saying that if he actually showed up, i problary would have bought his turbo kit. i just, personally, wont trust someone who didnt show up after i took a long drive. I said nothing about the quality of his work or products. I have never seen anything from him so i will not make judgements on them. He just didnt come through for me. I HOPE you car comes out and its a beast. I not hating so calm yourself son.

[ROUGHEDGES]

sorry, you problary havent been around that long. Autospeed performance used to
be speedtech.

[ROUGHEDGES]

Originally posted by halflife
Right on!!! good post.

bunch of negs on this board. he could bring a great product to the market for all of us regardless of this guys rep or he could get burnt and then we can all laugh at him. If u don't have anything nice to say keep it to yourself until we get some results. Why make this guy worry if he does not have too.

because something happens once, its a mistake. If it happens to 10 people over the last 2 years its something to LOOK at. I was in the same shoes as you guys. i said the same thing about people being haters. I wanted to take my car to (mystery mechanic) because my head got clogged with all the bs he was throwing at
me. I was young, stupid and 6500 bucks poorer. I should have listened before acting. And again i am not hating, just been in this exact situation before and wish i wasnt so stubborn with taking advice. It really sucked to get taken like that. I am much more precautious now.

[tuned s4]

THANK YOU ROUGHEDGES, I'M 41 SO I'M NOT YOUR SON !!!!!!!

I"M THINKING YOU JUST EXPLAINED 3 TIMES WHY MOTODYNE DOES NOT WANT TO DO BUSINESS WITH GUYS LIKE YOUSELF &
THE RENAMED SHOP AUTOSPEED PERFORMANCE.

YOUR POST INDICATES THE COMPANY SPEEDTECH I MEAN AUTOSPEED PERFOMANCE WAS SHADY ALONG WITH THE GUYS R&R' ING YOUR MOTOR .

SO YOUR CONCLUSION IS:
" MOTODYNE DOES NOT HAVE A REAL TURBO KIT BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SELL OR WORK WITH YOUR CRIMINAL AUTO REPAIR SHOP".

HELP ME OUT IF I'M MISSING SOMETHING.....[headbang]
UNREAL MAN, BLAMING MOTODYNE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH YOUR BOGUS MECHANIC.

THINK MAYBE MOTODYNE SAW THE WRITING ON THE WALL WITH YOU & YOUR "PROFESSIONAL FRIENDS" AND RELATED TUNING COMPANY(S) NAME CHANGE WHY? AND OPTED NOT TO ANSWER YOUR CALL LET ALONE DRIVE INTO YOUR MESS

I THINK A CIVILIZED BUSINESS PERSON IN ANY TRADE WOULD NOT GET INVOLVED WITH YOU AND YOUR CREW FOR THE REASONS EXPLAINED IN YOUR OWN WORDS/POSTS ROUGHEDGES

SO YOU WENT WITHOUT ROB AND MOTODYNE AND GOT A HALF BUILT MOTOR AND YOUR PARTS STOLEN, SOUNDS LIKE IT ALL WOKED OUT WELL......LOL

ROUGHEDGES I THINK AS YOU/ WHEN YOU GROW UP YOU"LL SEE WHY MEN LIKE ROB DON"T RETURN CALLS TO GUYS LIKE AUTOSPEED AND RELATED RETARDS.....

MY 2 CENTS
NOPE MAKE THAT 5...


WALTER [drive]

[ROUGHEDGES]

Your are not understanding. Keep on protecting motodyne. I never said they were bad quality. He is the one who offered to do the turbo, not speedtech. He didnt come through. period. If he was such a good buisnessman, he wouldnt have acted like a 16 schoolgirl and picked up the phone and said that he didnt want to do buisness with us. He has that choice. He simply could of said no and not wasted my time. If anything is bad buisness it is that. I didnt want to get into this but these are my dealings with him. You rebuted with your last post. Wouldnt answering and saying he didnt want to work with us be the right thing and good buisness practice.
I really hope your car comes out well and would def. like to see pics or even a ride. I would take the trip down there to see how his work is. I am not a hater, just relating to my dealings with him. Hit me up with a email with pics if you want, and also let me know how your dealing with motodyne was. I know 10k is alot to shell out and you are really trusting in the person the most. If you feel comfortable with him, good. I never got a chance to meet him, so my posts were on the facts that happened. This is not about opinion for me, i just told you my story, and yes there are different sides to everything. Good luck again

[ROUGHEDGES]

LOL i guess all the people that got ripped off by him were "criminals" or "retards"

your getting so upset its almost funny

[OverSpun]

walter, you need to calm down. I think that roughedges replied civily and maturely and hes only telling of his experiences along with the rest. 2ndly, your age has NOTHING to do with this situation, nor does it make you any wiser with car tuners than any of us that have researched. If you arent worried about your experience with them, good for you, personally i would never do what you are doing with a company that has such a record of poor service and sheisty practices. however, like i said, thats MY OPINION, although many others may share it. Its not like we are here to sway you away from doing business with motodyne or robert, because obviously its in progress already, just a warning of what it could come to. also, theres nothing too amazing about being lent a supercharged 12v 2.8 a4, that car is worth probably less than a set of nice wheels.

p.s the caps lock key is located 1 key directly above your shift key on the left hand side of the keyboard. ;)

[ROUGHEDGES]

p.s the caps lock key is located 1 key directly above your shift key on the left hand side of the keyboard. ;)

dont worry i think he was yelling at me [=(]

[TheBlueMartin]

Wow.......I can see the stress levels are a bit to high in here...
calm down please...lets wait and see how this S4 turns out.
[headbang]

[ROUGHEDGES]

In short; i think he knew i didn't understand everything he was talking about... so his words to me were and i quote.
" I originally built this kit for myself not the audiworld enthusiast market, my goal was to make as much reliable horsepower as possible, being it's my 24 application i wanted to challenge myself and set a benchmark in it's design knowing how many of my competitors will be watching. The system should be priced at 30 thousand dollars and would still sell heavily in Europe and the Arab countries. But guys from Michigan and Texas will send in emails crying about it's price, heck they're already bitching that it's 11 and change".

i think he knew i didn't understand everything he was talking about

i swear his flux capacitor doesnt pull as many joules as the mtm does

[whoneedsanm3]

Well, I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see some drama here. There always seems to be a few brands of tuners for each type of car that have a really mixed rep (deserved or not). I think I'll hold off on forming an opinion until I have heard some first person reviews either way of these guys. Besides, that's a damned expensive supercharger setup. The one I was lloking at for my M3 was 6K'ish...

[ROUGHEDGES]

Originally posted by whoneedsanm3
Well, I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see some drama here. There always seems to be a few brands of tuners for each type of car that have a really mixed rep (deserved or not). I think I'll hold off on forming an opinion until I have heard some first person reviews either way of these guys. Besides, that's a damned expensive supercharger setup. The one I was lloking at for my M3 was 6K'ish...

what supercharger? One of my best friends is laguna01///m3 from e46fanatics.
He was looking at a couple, and i saw that they ranged from around 6k( active autowerks iirc) to 25k(evosport?). sorry i just realized you said m3 and not e46. I think i might like the e36 just as much as the e46. Both are quick and nimble cars stock.

[tuned s4]

I just believe badmouthing a company all over the Internet because they didn't want to work with your mechanic/theives is morally incorrect.
I am not angry at anyone here, nor do I think I am always right about everything.
I guess I find in funny that you praise autospeed even after your venture with them left you with half a motor and in short ripped off. As your story above tells

But crucify motodyne or the man that doesn't want to return a call. I guess the people at motodyne that you wanted to see at autospeeds shop-/door step..... there time and effort means nothing you think?

Just curious, did you ever think motodyne bailed out because they knew you were working with a bad mechanic?


Teach me, maybe thats what the problem is i'm having trouble learning

1) Mechanic and tuner shop with name change that cheats customer (roughedges) out of 6,500 dollars is so good his name can't be mentioned.

2)Motodyne did not return Roughedges call to meet shady mechanic . So they get hammered by roughedges. His related posting on the net show this

Thats what i gather so far

Aside from all of this, I'm sorry to hear you got taken from autospeeds mechanic thats not right
Walter [drive]

[ROUGHEDGES]

Ok, but back to good buisness practice. Just say you dont want to work with us. Dont ignore and give a run around. Honestly, people dont give someone a bad name, the company does. Avalon motorsports, awe, moss, these are all great tuners with solid reputations. When you have one bad comment towards a tuner, it should be brushed off. Two bad comments, and it should raise an eyebrow. This guy rob has SEVERAL people that had bad dealings with him. It seems he only works 1 week a year, his shop always seems to be closed. People have bought parts from him and never recieved them. And then on ebay he has ripped off many many people. I dont believe the thing of it not being him selling these parts. Since three years ago, there has been many posts from here to audiworld to porsche forums to general automotive forums that state that people paid for a part that was never seen along with a refund. Search google, audiworld, audizine, rennlist and you will find several posts of people being ripped off that dealt directly with him, not over ebay. He even robbed a couple people that bought superchargers and never gave them there money back.

[B6 S4 is BRZRKR]

Walter,

I've talked with MotoDyne a few times since the first of this post. I am about to take the plunge here too. Please update us on everything... communication with them, how long it's been, how long it's expected to take, etc. Also, do you have an exhaust? They told me that the 502HP was with the stock exhaust. I'd love to see what it makes with my Milltek (that's being installed next week). Anxious to hear what you think. I guess I'm going alot off your word. Peace.

[A4 - Oh Snap]

walter, props on being one of the first to pull the trigger on forced induction for your S4. The bottom line is, when it comes to the aftermarket, "money talks, **** walks" and clearly you must have the disposable income to make the supercharger happen.

Having been in the industry as a vendor a for a few years, I've realized that a lot of people are all talk and most of the guys doing the real work just laugh off the people who post all day on the forums.

Regardless of any product out there, there will always be a naysayer.

Bill Cosby once said - "I don't know the secret to success, but the secret to failure is to try to make everyone happy."

Good luck with everything. Keep us posted!

[JetBlue]

Have you been in to see the progress yet? How about some pictures?
MO

[phEight]

I really hope this works out for you. Once it's all said it done, I'M EXPECTING SOME VIDEOS! [hail] [drive] [wrench] [:D] [az]

[CTOM9]

Oh man. This mod is going to cost me a lot of money. Ever since this thread started, I've thought of nothing else. I have a bad feeling that once NYC thaws out, my bank account is going to take a 12K hit...

Any status update on te progress Walter?


Chris

[whoneedsanm3]

Originally posted by ROUGHEDGES
what supercharger? One of my best friends is laguna01///m3 from e46fanatics.
He was looking at a couple, and i saw that they ranged from around 6k( active autowerks iirc) to 25k(evosport?). sorry i just realized you said m3 and not e46. I think i might like the e36 just as much as the e46. Both are quick and nimble cars stock.

Yeah, S/C's for E46's tend to be a little more expensive... I love my E36, almost as much as my S4... By the way, Active Aurowerks one is the one I was looking at. I have done a fair bit of research, and it seems to be the best overall for the money.

[B6 S4 is BRZRKR]

Walter... For CTOM9 and me... (two that actually might do this too), can you please tell us some up to date news? I'm with CTOM9, I can't think of anything else but.... 502HP BABY!!!

[Boba Fett]

***** Motodyne = scammer. *****

Google search "motodyne scam" and see how many results come up.

[tuned s4]

Weather permitting my car should hit the track at Atco raceway for Q mile times Tuesday. Rob has updated me with install/progress PICS. He told me NOT to post them because guys like the fellow above will distribute them and claim they are the finished product and that will just allow for more bad PR. Anyhow I can't wait to drive my car and will post about my car and do MY OWN pictures for my car and upload them.
So far motodyne has and is doing everything they said they would, including dyno pulls and related supercharger documentation and tuning.

FYI, aside from my 05 they are housing a 2004 s4 and S8. I can't remember which car he said was going to be fitted with a bored and stroked 4.2L with low compression. In short it will be a 5.1L with high boost.
The oiling system and crank alone was almost the price of my setup...

I guess i have something to strive for when my cars out of warranty a stroker motor.
Walter [drive]

[A4 - Oh Snap]

so they're going to stroke it AND throw a blower on it?

[AvantS4B6]

Tuned S4, won't your supercharger mod void the warranty?? If it doesn't, I'm sure a lot more of us will have these soon...

[TheBlueMartin]

Originally posted by AvantS4B6
Tuned S4, won't your supercharger mod void the warranty?? If it doesn't, I'm sure a lot more of us will have these soon...

Putting a K&N in voids most of your powertrain warranty....Im sure a blower will kill any warrents against the engine.

[whoneedsanm3]

Originally posted by TheBlueMartin
Putting a K&N in voids most of your powertrain warranty....Im sure a blower will kill any warrents against the engine.

In my experience you'd have to do alot more than put in a K+N in order to void the warranty, at least here in Texas. I've seen a bunch of folks get transmission or engine work covered after having put in an aftermarket intake. The big thing is that the dealership has to prove that the modification is what caused the problem in order to not cover it. A defective "X" has to be covered, as long as the mod was not the major contributing factor...

On the other hand, a supercharger will void the engine and possibly tranny warranty, just like you said (I'd love to know what Audi officially rates the transmission to in the way of torque and hp).

I guess the real question is whether or not the S/C manufacturer will offer a warranty on the engine ala Dinan and Bimmer or Stillen and the Nissan 350Z.

[JetBlue]

The official stance is that an intake and cat back exhaust are OK. Chips and DP's are a no no. I am sure that they SC will be fine[wrench]

Can't wait to see the pics, dyno and time slips. If it all turns out as planned I will be making some calls. Is he installing it himself and do you know if he would sell the kit to be installed on the west coast?
MO

[AvantS4B6]

I have very little experience with superchargers (lots with turbos) and wanted to know if it is necessary or suggested to upgrade injectors, fuel pump and ECU with this particular setup. Maybe the $13k includes that??..
Thanks.

[tuned s4]

Wow a lot of replies. I think the warranty on the car is about as good as the service manager who writes up the repair.

To give you an example: a long time ago I had a Lingenfelter prepared Corvette I was always burning up the brakes on it and bringing it into the GM dealer for repair. The service manger when he did my paper work always said to me "What turbocharger."
If they all were that kind, not one of my cars would be stock.

Regarding my motodyne supercharger system, the car will get a different fuel pressure regulator, injectors and ECM software/firmware which comes with the system

Walter [drive]

[B6 S4 is BRZRKR]

Walter,

Has Motodyne given you an idea of how much power they "know" the drivetrain can take? Thanks for the continued posts. I'm 'bout to jump outa my skin waiting to see how this goes.

[Richard 350z]

Wait for a few other owners to take the plunge. If their engines don't blow up, you should be OK. ATI Procharger was blowing up 350Z engines with its centrifugal supercharger last year. Be careful.

[OverSpun]

so why not post the pictures of the progress with transparencied watermarks crossing the center saying that the pictures are from the install process so people wont spread them? i think anyone with any common sense can look at an engine in peices and know that its not done, that is unless it looks done and hes hyping it up because it doesnt look good.

[OverSpun]

btw... check out this link...

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=motodyne+scam&btnG=Search

even just type motodyne in the search if you want... still tons of negative results.

[tuned s4]

Apparently all the bad press revolving around motodyne stems from this v6 kit.
I like the blair witch project type filmography used, especially the girl running with the camera.
Enjoy: http://tomasz.klimek.com/videos/101_0146.avi

Overspun maybe an s4 v8 vid is in order?

Walter

[ROUGHEDGES]

I dont get it. Was that the you in the video with motodynes supercharged a4?

[tuned s4]

No it's not me. It's just an example of what one has to do, being a motodyne customer.
Overspun asked me for pics of my to be motodyne setup .Rob asked me not to post anything as noted in an earlier post . So i was thinking a video of my car running at the track might be nice when it's done..

Walter[drive]

[OverSpun]

under the hood shots would be nice as well. im not hating on you man, youve got some guts to do business with a company with such a bad rep. i just hope it works out for you. i hope you atleast knew about their rep before you took your car to them.

[OverSpun]

Originally posted by tuned s4
Apparently all the bad press revolving around motodyne stems from this v6 kit.
I like the blair witch project type filmography used, especially the girl running with the camera.
Enjoy: http://tomasz.klimek.com/videos/101_0146.avi

Overspun maybe an s4 v8 vid is in order?

Walter

im almost more interested by his rediculously stupid wing in that video... haha. but thats also the first 12v supercharger ive ever seen.

[tuned s4]

Originally posted by OverSpun
im almost more interested by his rediculously stupid wing in that video... haha. but thats also the first 12v supercharger ive ever seen.

After Fast and Furious was released a lot of those wings were bolted and glued on a lot of kids cars. My other favorite is "NOS" I guess N20 was just not cool

[ROUGHEDGES]

WOW, your really dont know anything about cars. Its not "NOS" stupid. The technical name is "NAWWWZZZ". Do i have to teach people everything lol :)

[TheBlueMartin]

Originally posted by tuned s4

I like the blair witch project type filmography used, especially the girl running with the camera.
Enjoy: http://tomasz.klimek.com/videos/101_0146.avi

Overspun maybe an s4 v8 vid is in order?

Walter

I dont get it....who the hell would put a blower on a 12 valve?? The flow rate of those heads are bland at best! Whats the final output on that car..230ph?? A stock 3.0 B6 manual should be able to run it. That engine was an unbreakable workhorse to start out with, and should have been left at that (not to mention that horrible wing).
Now a 4.2 5-valve is a different story.....run baby run!

[Ultrasport Steve]

I can't believe I wasted all this time reading these thread...I want my time back. I hope S4 tuned did NOT just lose $13 large. Where there is smoke..there's fire...caveat emptor baby.

[B6 S4 is BRZRKR]

What? What a ridiculous post. Sounds like someone upset they didn't get the REAL Audi. Give this guy a break. Maybe some of you don't understand that some of us are more able to roll the dice financially in the name of fun. Walter's OBVIOUSLY capable, and he's obviously more into seeing what he can create that's different... which always pushes some envelopes. Otherwise, he'd probably just have an M6 on the way or something. What might be a ridiculous risk to some of you is FUN for others. I can't believe all the crap I've read in this list... but this last post Steve is the most stupid of all.

[RKA]

For those people itching to spend their $12K...hold onto it until you've personally verified the kit exists.

I've put up a thread on AW indicating that tuned S4 = Rob Hack = Motodyne. http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/200292.phtml

I've also reported tuned S4 to the moderators on Audizine. They can deal with it however they see fit.

Rob Hack, don't bother to respond to me using your name or your aliases. I live an hour away from you...if you push the right buttons, I'll be on your front doorstep documenting your sham for the world to see.

[Ultrasport Steve]

Good catch Raj. :-)

[Paul_858]

ignorance is bliss. If you get your kit good for you, if it runs all the better, but it won't change how a lot of people view Motodyne and their "products". Truth is they've burnt a lot of people in the past and if you don't think people's first hand experiences on AW is enough truth(multiple first hand accounts of being ripped off), then you deserve to get ripped off yourself.

[KMHPaladin]

I'm surprised Raj was the first person to realize this is Hack talking. You know what they say about a fool and his money?

[MächtigAvant]

Bwahahahahahah....0wn3d something furious. :-P

[S4arch]

this thread keeps getting better and better...I can't wait to see pics of the finished kit...maybe in 'two weeks'...[rolleyes] [headbang] [az]

[boost junkie]

are you kidding me, this guy won't post pics of a $13,000 kit he is trying to sell because he "doesn't want anyone to steal his design"? What a load of crap.

[crew219]

Originally posted by RKA
For those people itching to spend their $12K...hold onto it until you've personally verified the kit exists.

I've put up a thread on AW indicating that tuned S4 = Rob Hack = Motodyne. http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/200292.phtml

I've also reported tuned S4 to the moderators on Audizine. They can deal with it however they see fit.

Rob Hack, don't bother to respond to me using your name or your aliases. I live an hour away from you...if you push the right buttons, I'll be on your front doorstep documenting your sham for the world to see.

Audizine could always just check the origin of his IP to see if it really is from Ohio or from NJ.

[Ultrasport Steve]

Anthony...oh Anthony...we have a request...If it was Audiworld I could do it..but I don't have the ability here.

[dukez]

Wow just saw this thread, good thing i didnt read it and just skipped to page 3 [up][:D]. Never heard of this ROb guy or motordyne either. Good info for everyone, spread the word, specially in the regional forum of NY/NY. There are probably others like me who arent aware of Hacks antics. [down]

[B6 S4 is BRZRKR]

Steve,

My apologies on my reply then. I was thinking that Walter was just in a very "cool" moment for a car guy and saw no reason to wish bad on him. I've left out really important words in my emails before. Seeing that I'm actually one who would've done the kit, this whole thing is pissing me off.

[CTOM9]

This thread is like drama queen heaven. It's starting to make me rethink moving away from E46's. For the sake of all involved, I hope that Walter is real and that Motodyne lives up to their promises and actually has a viable product to deliver.

RKA who has a grand total of 1 post is calling out another member here - and truth be told - as a fairly new member myself - I don't know who/what to believe anymore. m What I do know is that this thread has a lot of people uptight and at the edges of their seat.... I'm so confused.[confused] [confused]

[crew219]

Originally posted by CTOM9
This thread is like drama queen heaven. It's starting to make me rethink moving away from E46's. For the sake of all involved, I hope that Walter is real and that Motodyne lives up to their promises and actually has a viable product to deliver.

RKA who has a grand total of 1 post is calling out another member here - and truth be told - as a fairly new member myself - I don't know who/what to believe anymore. m What I do know is that this thread has a lot of people uptight and at the edges of their seat.... I'm so confused.[confused] [confused]

If you understood how badly motodyne ripped off vw/audi/porsche owners, then you'd understand all the commotion. If you're looking for a supercharger, don't worry, the kits are coming out soon.

Honestly though, motodyne is a scam that surprisingly is still in action.

[KMHPaladin]

Originally posted by CTOM9
RKA who has a grand total of 1 post is calling out another member here - and truth be told - as a fairly new member myself - I don't know who/what to believe anymore. m What I do know is that this thread has a lot of people uptight and at the edges of their seat.... I'm so confused.[confused] [confused] Some of the posters in this thread have been around a bit longer on other forums. As people have been saying - do research on Audiworld.

[CTOM9]

Originally posted by KMHPaladin
Some of the posters in this thread have been around a bit longer on other forums. As people have been saying - do research on Audiworld.

I'm not disputing, nor backing anyone in this thread - as I don't know anyone on here. All I am saying is that one noobie is contradicting another and as a noobie myself - I have lost all sense of reality.

In a perfect world, Walter posts some pics of his car's progress. I do agree that as he has paid almost 13K for upgrades, that he can take any pics that he wants of HIS car. Being held hostage by this Rob guy is crazy. But also, I like to give people the benefit of the dought. So I will reserve judgement for another week or so to see what updates (text and pics) Walter provides us.

[nadroj81]

Originally posted by tuned s4
Friday I took my s4 to motodyne to be fitted with a supercharger. First I want to note prior to the purchase of this supercharger I contacted an S8 owner who has been running the motodyne kit for over a year. He told me he experienced no drivability issues or trouble with the car. Now I made a similar inquiry in the Audiworld D2 forum and was chastised for asking.
When I talked to Rob, the owner of Motodyne about the system he went into detail about the system for over an hour, he told me I could expect about 502hp and an ungodly amount of torque. In short; i think he knew i didn't understand everything he was talking about... so his words to me were and i quote.
" I originally built this kit for myself not the audiworld enthusiast market, my goal was to make as much reliable horsepower as possible, being it's my 24 application i wanted to challenge myself and set a benchmark in it's design knowing how many of my competitors will be watching. The system should be priced at 30 thousand dollars and would still sell heavily in Europe and the Arab countries. But guys from Michigan and Texas will send in emails crying about it's price, heck they're already bitching that it's 11 and change".

I'll report my ride home when i go back to pick up the car, cheers

Walter
Chemtech LLC

05 Audi s4
04 Cayenne S



[drive]


walter, what is your affiliation with chemtech? I am familiar with that company (if it is the same one) and its been around for a while and native to NJ. I don't believe they have operations in Ohio. A corporation which i have 1/4 ownership provides sevices for them...

[A4 - Oh Snap]

Sweat. I never saw a thread on AZ that actually brought members from AW over.

[tuned s4]

Glad to see how well the Audiworld smear campaign is still working at its fullest potential. For anyone that questions what I've chosen to do to my s4, come see it while it's being put together, and for anyone with balls go to Motodyne.

For the blind and/or retarded that think Sheepworld, I mean, Audiworld has anything real on Motodyne, get your fat, poor, lazy, wanna be, poser, internet post whore, libel talking, trash addicted, paint shop pro Audi modding ass to Motodyne and see for your own eyes what they offer for the s4, and the other models like I did. And you'll start to see how much wool has been pulled over your eyes by a smear campaign that was mostly generated by PES tuning and their white trash vendors in Texas called QRSmotorsports, which to no surprise is no longer in business.

I find it extremely hilarious that the 500 dollar Audi 90 audiworld members talk about motodyne and motodyne products like they know anything first hand. I've heard all the reports of fraud, yet not one case with merit. Look at the people that chimed into this thread with claims, when called on, magically disappear.

Now I've spoken to Rob, and out of 3 thousand customers, he said maybe two will never be pleased. As a business owner I get the concept that no matter how hard one tries, there will always be somebody that's never satisfied no matter what.

Now if you read the Audiworld posts that index in google it will look like there are 3 thousand unsatisfied customers because 5 or 6 employees from the tuner shops mentioned above who encourage a dozen more enthusiasts with no life to concurrently post lies based on propaganda.

The mission serves one purpose: to cancel people's interest in Motodyne. I'll bet my car and about 20 grand of my own money that what I'm saying is the truth behind what you read.

GOT BALLS? Chances are if you're in audiworld, no...
you know where my car is..
Motodyne
908 East Park Ave
Hainesport NJ 08036

Again for the mentally challenged, I'm a Motodyne customer who has the right to defend anyone he believes in.

Walter [drive]

[Ultrasport Steve]

Originally posted by CTOM9
RKA who has a grand total of 1 post is calling out another member here - and truth be told - as a fairly new member myself - I don't know who/what to believe anymore. m What I do know is that this thread has a lot of people uptight and at the edges of their seat.... I'm so confused.

Ah..on Audiworld...RKA has 49,820 posts on Audiworld. He is one of the most helpful persons I have ever met on the web. He hand holds noobs all the time...helping them make the right choices.

Walter...good luck bud...if you really are Walter...if not...I have nothing to say to you.

[KMHPaladin]

Originally posted by CTOM9
I'm not disputing, nor backing anyone in this thread - as I don't know anyone on here. All I am saying is that one noobie is contradicting another and as a noobie myself - I have lost all sense of reality.You're mistaking people with low postcounts here for noobs. I'll tell you again to simply type "Motodyne" into the Audiworld search and see what comes back. This is classic Hack behavior, now that he has been unmasked. Can you think of any justifiable reason why a new customer, as he's claiming to be, would be so defensive? It's a scam. Simple as that.

[tuned s4]

KMHpaladin,
So like i've asked many times before, what are your dealings with motodyne? Here is your big chance to show us what you know.
Wait.. Wait... let me guess...he didn't return your phone call, or come visit you at your mothers' cousin's sister's husband's house to talk in depth about your coil spring? Make sure your reply implies that he has all the makings of a cyber criminal, and if you don't announce this 5 thousand times then you're not for real.

You know what makes you dumber than one who participates in the smear campaign? Being shown by others that it IS a smear campaign and still thinking and acting like it's not. What I think you need to do (because basically you'll do it anyway) is drag in a few thousand Audiworld morons that know even less than you do to help you make up accusations, and I'll singlehandedly shoot down their claims

Walter [drive]

[crew219]

wow . . . and all of a sudden he got nasty . . . i really would like to know what his IP address is . . .

[A4 - Oh Snap]

I guess only time will tell what this prototypical product will bring to the aftermarket table. Walter, I think we're all looking forward to hearing the good things you will be saying about your Motodyne-charged S4.

Everyone, time to put away the Snore Stop and put this thread to bed.

http://www.carshopusa.com/snorestop.jpg

[tuned s4]

Originally posted by crew219
wow . . . and all of a sudden he got nasty . . . i really would like to know what his IP address is . . .

and i'd love to see your brown Audi 5000, with the Home Depot ram air intake dryer duct tube?

[crew219]

Originally posted by tuned s4
and i'd love to see your brown Audi 5000, with the Home Depot ram air intake dryer duct tube?

which is probably what your S4 will look like after you get it back from motodyne [:p]

Sorry but either you are affiliated with motodyne or you're an extremely belligerent S4 owner who apparently doesn't take well to anyone's input. My advice . . . walk away. All you're doing is propagating further suspicion as to your true identity. Motodyne has triggered many red flags at the mere mention of its name amongst many audi vw owners and if this is a scam, we will find out.

[Audi World]

tuned s4, we should set up a friendly race between your soon-to-be 502hp beast once it's done and my barely 400hp S4. You should be able to, at the very least, keep up with me, right? hehe.... I mean, you will have the weight advantage thanks to your ultra-light wallet after the upgrade.
:p

[tuned s4]

That would be cool, I'm wondering if I should do the stroker upgrade and run high boost. After seeing the crazy stroker s4 engine I almost feel like 502hp might not be enough. When I went to see my car somebody with a yellow B6 was getting the bank-breaking 820 wheel HP combo and I snapped a pic of the motor.


Did you ever see the back of an s4 motor (cams & chains,)
and a monster like supercharger.
http://motodyne.com/images/stroker
Motodyne told me it was like a 65 thousand dollar motor and the kid that was getting this combo looked fresh out of high school.

Walter [drive]
Always ask permission when posting pics of what could be someones intellectual property

[Ultrasport Steve]

Sounds like a lawyer talking now...ew...thats my IP...I didn't give you permission...(blah..blah...blah)

[KMHPaladin]

Originally posted by tuned s4
I'll singlehandedly shoot down their claimsI'm still waiting for you to shoot down mine, Hack. I think we've pretty clearly shown you up for the scum you are. I'd say that you've been revealed as the fraud most know you to be and that anyone dumb enough to send you money for one of your scams deserves what they get, but, well, that would mean someone here ignorant enough not to do their homework first might actually send you some money. So I'm going to keep ridiculing you.

[4ingDrive]

Originally posted by crew219
wow . . . and all of a sudden he got nasty . . .

Just like he did every other time he got called out on other forums.

[Imperial]

wow, I spend one day away, and look what happens!

I've never heard anything about MotoDyne and their stuff, but there's a ton of people who are displeased, to say the least. I wouldn't necessarily call it a smear campaign if it's this widespread. Maybe if a handful of people were running around talking trash, then that'd be a different story. Research is always wise before making a move, especially one this big. I'm not going to say anything biased, but where there's smoke....

Anyway, maybe we can steer this thread back in a productive direction?


Welcome, also, to all those who've joined from AW [:)]

[green_vaccine]

I have never heard of MotoDyne before, but I can tell you that it doesn't take more than a week at the MOST to install a supercharger. How long has it been sitting there now? I would be pissed it was taking this long if you are paying $13K or whatever. If you get a stroker motor I would find out what machine shop is doing his work as well, as very few shops have machining done in-house.

[RKA]

Originally posted by CTOM9
This thread is like drama queen heaven. It's starting to make me rethink moving away from E46's. For the sake of all involved, I hope that Walter is real and that Motodyne lives up to their promises and actually has a viable product to deliver.

RKA who has a grand total of 1 post is calling out another member here - and truth be told - as a fairly new member myself - I don't know who/what to believe anymore. m What I do know is that this thread has a lot of people uptight and at the edges of their seat.... I'm so confused.[confused] [confused]

As others have mentioned, I've been around Audiworld for nearly 6 years now. You can view my account details here (http://account.audiworld.com/users/2062.phtml). Over the years, the AZ databases have crashed more than once, and been restored, and account information has been lost at least once. You can contact the admins here to find out why my account is back down to 1 post. Suffice it to say, I rarely post here, but a link from AW highlighting Rob Hack's activities brought me over.

[RKA]

Originally posted by tuned s4
Glad to see how well the Audiworld smear campaign is still working at its fullest potential. For anyone that questions what I've chosen to do to my s4, come see it while it's being put together, and for anyone with balls go to Motodyne.

For the blind and/or retarded that think Sheepworld, I mean, Audiworld has anything real on Motodyne, get your fat, poor, lazy, wanna be, poser, internet post whore, libel talking, trash addicted, paint shop pro Audi modding ass to Motodyne and see for your own eyes what they offer for the s4, and the other models like I did. And you'll start to see how much wool has been pulled over your eyes by a smear campaign that was mostly generated by PES tuning and their white trash vendors in Texas called QRSmotorsports, which to no surprise is no longer in business.

I find it extremely hilarious that the 500 dollar Audi 90 audiworld members talk about motodyne and motodyne products like they know anything first hand. I've heard all the reports of fraud, yet not one case with merit. Look at the people that chimed into this thread with claims, when called on, magically disappear.

Now I've spoken to Rob, and out of 3 thousand customers, he said maybe two will never be pleased. As a business owner I get the concept that no matter how hard one tries, there will always be somebody that's never satisfied no matter what.

Now if you read the Audiworld posts that index in google it will look like there are 3 thousand unsatisfied customers because 5 or 6 employees from the tuner shops mentioned above who encourage a dozen more enthusiasts with no life to concurrently post lies based on propaganda.

The mission serves one purpose: to cancel people's interest in Motodyne. I'll bet my car and about 20 grand of my own money that what I'm saying is the truth behind what you read.

GOT BALLS? Chances are if you're in audiworld, no...
you know where my car is..
Motodyne
908 East Park Ave
Hainesport NJ 08036

Again for the mentally challenged, I'm a Motodyne customer who has the right to defend anyone he believes in.

Walter [drive]

Rob,
It's interesting that you've already announced a price for the kit...usually that's done AFTER development, AFTER testing, and AFTER locking down suppliers for the various parts. And surely you've done all that...because you're the first to market with a B6 supercharger kit, right? And yet, despite all that hard work, there is ZERO information on your website regarding this kit. A kit, mind you, that many people would be standing in line to get their hands on.

And the secrecy about taking the car to Atco?? Intersting.... Not done with it, but you've nailed down a price?

Tell you what...give me a date, I'll come down (mapquest says I'm 30 miles away), and we'll take some pictures, maybe a few videos. Surely if the kit exists, and the installation has been progressing for nearly 2 weeks now, there is something to show for it, right? How about some preliminary pictures just to wet people's appetites? It would be great for business, don't you think? Monday night good for you?
Raj

[crew219]

RKA: I'm sure he won't let you take pictures or look at it because he doesn't want other tuners stealing his ideas . . . *bullshit*

[audi_a4_kid]

compare the pics on his website to those of blausports and other Audi tuner site and you 'll see that motodyne's pics are the flipped and rotated images of the others company!

If motodyne was a real "quality company they most definantly would have a real location. And a real address that matches the phone #


this is there address from the website

MotoDyne
Marlton, NJ
Office: (609) 518-1998

this the governments

Motodyne
225 Buttonwood St
Mount Holly, NJ 08060-1416
(609) 518-1998


This is a difference of over 15 miles!
what is the real address? Clearly the loaction is a fake.
will the real motodyne address please stand up!

If you, tuneds4, are real, then post some pics of what the motodyne shop looks like from the outside. take em on the street cause it legal. then take some pics of your car as it is being built.

[Anthony]

Originally posted by RKA
As others have mentioned, I've been around Audiworld for nearly 6 years now. You can view my account details here (http://account.audiworld.com/users/2062.phtml). Over the years, the AZ databases have crashed more than once, and been restored, and account information has been lost at least once. You can contact the admins here to find out why my account is back down to 1 post. Suffice it to say, I rarely post here, but a link from AW highlighting Rob Hack's activities brought me over. AZ has been around since the end of 2001, with a complete DB refresh in February of 2004. Started with all-new Forum software which required old/previous users to sign up again from scratch. That won't be happening again, as we're very happy with this Forum setup and it'll be taking us through the long haul.

Sorry for the detour, just wanted to clarify that. So yeah, everyone once again became an AZ "noob" approximately one year ago.

[audi_a4_kid]

wait a minute this is the third address for motodyne

from tuners4

GOT BALLS? Chances are if you're in audiworld, *yes*... (edited)
you know where my car is..

Motodyne
908 East Park Ave
Hainesport NJ 08036

the total locations for the ONE motodyne is 3.
Will the real motodyne location please stand up!

It is fun pointing out flaws!

[RKA]

He's got a bunch of addresses all over the area. Here is the whois info for his website (with more addresses for the curious):
http://home.comcast.net/~epqc/motodyne/whois.jpg

Here's a shot of the entrance to the industrial park (Hainesport address s4 tuned listed above).
http://home.comcast.net/~epqc/motodyne/KW8E1111R.jpg

The front of his office/shop...
http://home.comcast.net/~epqc/motodyne/KW8E1113R.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~epqc/motodyne/KW8E1114R.jpg

The back of the building...
http://home.comcast.net/~epqc/motodyne/KW8E1115R.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~epqc/motodyne/KW8E1119R.jpg

Parking lot behind the building (DSM cars from from neighboring shop). Nothing of interest (outside) appearing to belong to Motodyne.
http://home.comcast.net/~epqc/motodyne/KW8E1117R.jpg

[tuned s4]

HEY RKA from PA First the superchargers weren't real, once that theory got debunked. Now the Shops aren't real.
I got ya, makes a lot of sense now.

Wait.. wait..Rob is not real. Will that be your next post?

Your Whois proves that the family has homes near by

I went with Rob to his home to pick up a Reiger body part....since you appear to be a stalker, do you want pics of his dogs so you know what to look out for?

Walter[drive]

[crew219]

you "went home" with "Rob" to pick up a Reiger "body part" . . . . *ahem*

Either way, your story would be more believeable if you posted some actual pics

[RKA]

This is evidence of leased commercial real estate with a sticker on the door, nothing more. If you want to debunk anything, it's well within your power. I believe I've made that abundantly clear.

[tuned s4]

http://motodyne.com/images/stroker

[crew219]

if these were your own pics, why are they hosted on the motodyne website?

[RKA]

I don't understand...on the previous page, you were so eager for someone to muster the balls to go down there, and I'm willing. Is the offer open or not?

[tuned s4]

Sent to me from motodyne. The more theories you come up with the better.......... and I'll do my best to help that process

Funny how after 4 years nobody has surfaced with a real motodyne issue? I bet that drives you crazy.............................

imagine being so bored with life you drive to NJ from PA to visit a shop you claim to hate, sounds like true love to me....
Walter[drive]

[RKA]

Please explain to your potential customers reading this thread why you choose to antagonize me, rather than invite me down to document evidence that your kit exists? This is all very simple, but you're choosing to play smoke and mirrors, and people can see right through it.

[CTOM9]

Originally posted by RKA
Please explain to your potential customers reading this thread why you choose to antagonize me, rather than invite me down to document evidence that your kit exists?

I have to agree with this. I live in NYC and can be there myself in about an hour. I would gladly serve as a neutral observer.

I'm starting to see that RKA and some of the others would gladly back off if Motodyne provided some/any proof of what is getting put into your car. Why not give it to them Walter?

[tuned s4]

If you wanna visit motodyne call Rob, But i personally feel the longer this controversy goes on the funnier it gets

Keeping in the audiworld tradition i will post pictures of my car as soon as I'm done photochopping something that resembles a finished product

Twice as funny as the accusations are the people going to Motodyne that have no idea what there looking at....
Walter [drive]
http://motodyne.com/images/rearcam

[tuned s4]

Yes below is my new angle.... keep the humor coming. KMHpaladin, Rob tells we your too scared to confront him at his Hainesport shop.
Sounds like your a real tough guy, LOL




Originally posted by KMHPaladin
You're mistaking people with low postcounts here for noobs. I'll tell you again to simply type "Motodyne" into the Audiworld search and see what comes back. This is classic Hack behavior, now that he has been unmasked. Can you think of any justifiable reason why a new customer, as he's claiming to be, would be so defensive? It's a scam. Simple as that.

[crew219]

Funny how Rob can't seem to properly utilize an engine stand . . . . in pic #1 its on a bare work counter . . . . in pic #2 its resting on an upside down wheel / tire. Not to mention its leaking oil all over the place.

[tuned s4]

Chime in with all your intellect if you must ......Wow now you can make yourself look like an ass. I'll be gentle because I was myself wondering why every other 4.2L was on a stand at motodyne but the s4 motors . Aside from the motodyne pics Study an MTM picture of an s4 motor out of a car if you need to.
And you'll realize the s4 motor can't be bolted to an engine stand.

and i bet you thought they were being all neglectful, see why Rob asked to keep pics off the net, the guys like yourself mislead everyone
Just incase you didn't notice the cam drive is in the rear.
Walter


Originally posted by crew219
Funny how Rob can't seem to properly utilize an engine stand . . . . in pic #1 its on a bare work counter . . . . in pic #2 its resting on an upside down wheel / tire. Not to mention its leaking oil all over the place.

[astris]

Check out Motodyne's SUPERCHARGER for the MAYBACH! [rolleyes] Can't wait to supercharge my twin turbo v12 Maybach. Oh yeah, with NAWZZZ too. Ridiculous. That site is a joke.

Check the link. http://www.motodyne.com/frames/benz_maybach.html

Though, this is all very entertaining. [az]

EDIT: The Motodyne website was changed only minutes after I wrote this. Check out my post a couple down.

[tuned s4]

Looks like an AMG turbo boost upgrade to me. You're doing a good job promoting Motodyne products, keep up the good work.
And don't let the smear campaign bring you down in your efforts. [hail]

Walter [drive]

[astris]

Originally posted by tuned s4
Looks like an AMG turbo boost upgrade to me. You're doing a good job promoting Motodyne products, keep up the good work.
And don't let the smear campaign bring you down in your efforts. [hail]

Walter [drive]

That is absolutely hilarious. Now I know you are Hack...

THE MOTODYNE WEBPAGE WAS UPDATE JUST MINUTES AFTER I MADE THE COMMENT ABOUT THE MAYBACH.

People on here know me and I would not lie. Stop trying to rip people off. I am kicking myself for not taking a screenshot.

It is currently 12:20 am on Feb. 6 and the Motodyne webpage was last update on Feb. 6. Thats interesting...

Oh yeah, you still forgot to change some info. According to your website info, the upgrade only covers one turbo and would decrease boost to 7 psi. The Maybach turbos stock run up to over 18 psi. So, according to your webpage decreasing the psi on one turbo should yield over 1200 hp and 1300 ft lbs of torque. The info you hastily changed on your website also has the wrong tranny. LOL. Go ahead and change the webpage before others see it. I have proof now. You have been owned. Period.

[tuned s4]

I would say it's time to put down the hash pipe. Aparently you're so high you don't even know what day it is.......

7psi is plenty with N20, it's called a boost controller, Some Audis use this to control boost levels acorording to gear selection; a good example is the URS4

From Motodynes site:
"By applying a computer controlled fueling system that incorporates support fuel and Nitrous Oxide combined with modest boost pressure of 7psi from the compressor, this method has a doubling effect on power output, making acceleration extremely fast and responsive. "

Emphasize the part about "modest boost".

You should email Rob and tell him to put an "s" on the word "compressor", especially since everyone here is going to buy a Maybach now thanks to your endorsement.



Walter [drive]

[astris]

Originally posted by tuned s4
I would say it's time to put down the hash pipe. Aparently you're so high you don't even know what day it is.......

7psi is plenty with N20, it's called a boost controller, Some Audis use this to control boost levels acorording to gear selection; a good example is the URS4

From Motodynes site:
"By applying a computer controlled fueling system that incorporates support fuel and Nitrous Oxide combined with modest boost pressure of 7psi from the compressor, this method has a doubling effect on power output, making acceleration extremely fast and responsive. "

Emphasize the part about "modest boost".

You should email Rob and tell him to put an "s" on the word "compressor", especially since everyone here is going to buy a Maybach now thanks to your endorsement.



Walter [drive]

So by decreasing the boost from 18 to 7 psi and adding NO2 to a bi turbo V12, your "AMG" upgrade makes 1200hp??? I'm sure AMG would do this. We all know how fond AMG is of decreasing boost to add power. And we all know AMG uses nitrous extensively.[rolleyes] Its a 5 speed tranny by the way, not six.

This is so ridiculous I'm done. You have defended Motodyne like you have something to lose.... If people don't know you are Hack or affiliated with the Motodyne scam after these posts, they are retarded. Enough. Someone lock this thread or band this clown.

[tuned s4]

I'd pay Motodyne a visit since you're a Maybach expert.

Maybe you can buy the Motodyne ZF trans with the RV overdrive unit to show your Maybach friends how they got an extra gear for fuel economy since they add extra weight.

Since you're another suspicious simple minded jerk, just look at the Callaway Vette data sheet: they did the same...all your remarks show how little you know about Motodyne's tuning program.

The only scam I'm noticing around here is people trying to pass themselves off as being smart because they read a Motortrend magazine.

Walter [drive]

[astris]

Originally posted by tuned s4
I'd pay Motodyne a visit since you're a Maybach expert.

Maybe you can buy the Motodyne ZF trans with the RV overdrive unit to show your Maybach friends how they got an extra gear for fuel economy since they add extra weight.

Since you're another suspicious simple minded jerk, just look at the Callaway Vette data sheet: they did the same...all your remarks show how little you know about Motodyne's tuning program.

The only scam I'm noticing around here is people trying to pass themselves off as being smart because they read a Motortrend magazine.

Walter [drive]

According to your previous statement it was AMGs tuning program, not Motodyne. I can't make any sense of your first sentence, so I'll just say this: Maybachs have a 5 speed and your site claims a six speed.

BTW I don't own a Maybach. I said that in jest indicated by the sarcastic emoticon. I just used the Maybach as an example to point out the huge flaws on the website which were coincidently changed immediately after my post. Please, stop dragging me into this garbage. This is all nonsense and needs to be stopped.

[tuned s4]

Renntech uses AMG parts, why don't you start a smear campaign about them?

I think if one reads this entire thread from start to finish, they would see it's just a smear campaign. A good example is when looking into 4 years worth of claims of wrong doings on Motodyne's part...if the claims were real, the internet posts regarding them would look more like the factual finds regarding Hennessey's Vipers

Taken form the net:
linked here: ]http://www.automotiveforums.com/t39700.html
I read about this on Autoweek after reading posts from actual pissed off Viper owners who got screwed out of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS.


Hennessey's Vipers are fast, but lawsuits say he serves them up too slowly. (Photo by Mark Vaughn)
Ninety-eight percent of his customers love him, John Hennessey says. But a few hate him and some have sued. Hennessey Motorsports in Houston specializes in tuning Vipers, adding more power to what is already one of the most powerful cars in the world. Hennessey’s Vipers have been featured in this and many other magazines and the cars he has sent to us and to other media were impressive performers. Hennessey presents himself well, projecting an image of the consummate Texas good ol’ boy whose reassuring conversational style and howyewdoin’ demeanor put customers at ease. People believe they will get what he says he’ll give them. But not all people do.

According to a lawsuit filed in Salt Lake City, Utah resident Taig Stewart sent his Viper GTS to Hennessey last May for an engine upgrade to 1100 hp along with several other modifications. For that he wire-transferred $142,500 to Hennessey. The lawsuit states the parties agreed the car would be done by mid-July 2001. As of press time the car was still sitting under a tarp in Hennessey’s shop in Houston. Or most of the car, anyway. Stewart’s suit claims Hennessey sold the car’s engine, transmission, wheels, tires and hood. The suit seeks return of the money, the Viper and “no less than $1 million” in punitive damages.

Hennessey claims he’s just slow in getting the work done.

“My side of the story is we’re planning on finishing his car and planning on giving him everything that he paid for,” said Hennessey. As for the parts being sold, “That’s totally false. We’ve got all his parts in the shop except the hood and he wanted to do a lightweight hood.”

Stewart is not the first unsatisfied customer. The longer we dug the more dissatisfaction we found. Here’s a sampling:

On Nov. 14 a New Jersey court entered a final judgement of $133,674 against Hennessey on behalf of Viper owner Gary Dan for a botched conversion.

William Walters said he is out over $22,000 after shipping his Corvette to Hennessey for a head and cam package that was never done; he did have five rods bent and a head gasket damaged on the dyno in Hennessey’s shop during an experiment Hennessey tried with nitrous oxide.

Jerry Johnson said he had to file suit in Placer County Court in California to straighten out registration and engine computer problems on a Viper he bought from Hennessey. n Jon Belinkie said he loves the changes made to his Viper but had to sue in his home state of Maryland, then register the judgement in Texas, to recover overcharges Hennessey made on his American Express card.

Rick Ryan said he had to hound Hennessey for eight months by long distance from Marietta, Georgia, to put the proper wing and stripes on his Viper.

Mark Lublin said he sent his Viper cylinder heads to Hennessey for new valves but when the heads came back he found the “new” valves were actually used; a cam that was delivered to Lublin in a Hennessey box turned out to be a stock Chrysler cam. Lublin was finally refunded $5,715 from American Express but only after nine months of disputing the charge; and he got no money from Hennessey.

Bruce Iannatuono said he ordered $8,500 worth of Hennessey parts for his mechanic in Baltimore to install but was only able to use two-thirds of what was shipped, and then only after haranguing Hennessey for six months on an order that was originally promised in five weeks.

Most of the complaints come from outside Texas. Hennessey, some said, tends to take better care of local customers.

“If you were out of state, man you were fair game,” said Kyle Kent, a former employee at Hennessey Motorsports. When an out-of-state car came in it was sometimes parted out, with the wheels, tires and whatever else looked good going to other cars waiting to be finished or sold outright, according to Kent and others inside Hennessey Motorsports. Then Hennessey would call the car’s owner and try to sell him an upgraded kit. If the customer balked, Hennessey would take parts from other cars in the shop, or just let the job sit.

Kent described one typical disassembly on an out-of-state Viper. “The motor and transmission went into a Durango John was putting together, the brakes went to someone else, the hood went to a guy in Ohio, the rear bumper to South Carolina, man you name it. We had multiple cars like that.”

Another common practice was putting stock parts on what was supposed to be an upgraded car.

“One customer spent $130,000 to $140,000 and that guy thought he had purchased a Venom 650R package which he thought came with the stroker motor,” Kent said. “John told him he was getting a stroker. He was just getting heads and cams.”

Hennessey denies any wrongdoing.

“I’ve got probably 3000 customers,” he said. “I’ve built over 300 cars and out of that I’ve had a handful of people that I’ve had some sort of a delivery problem with and I’ve had some of them who have sued me. So is that some sort of a trend or is that par for the course?”

So now tell me, would you still buy from Hennessey? His company is legendary, but stealing hundeds of thousands from your customers and parting off their very own cars is NOT good business practice! This guy should be in Jail! Spread the word about this if you feel the same.

Notice the court orders from more than one state and real examples of wrongdoing. That's the difference between a smear campaign and reality.
Walter [drive]

[audi_a4_kid]

WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT JOHN HENNESSEY!

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MOTODYNE.

And why did you cut and paste your last post?

At least John Hennessey proves he is real by getting his cars into magazines like Road and Track !
And he does not take images off of other companies websites and rotates them for his own.

Thanks RKA for the pics of the "Real Motodyne" shop! LOL.

“I’ve got probably 3000 customers,” he said. “I’ve built over 300 cars and out of that I’ve had a handful of people that I’ve had some sort of a problem

- internet source without a link for proof
i found it (http://www.automotiveforums.com/t39700.html
or google " hennessy viper" roughly the 5th result
-copied by Innotech, taken from autoweek

Out of 3 thousand customers, he said maybe two will never be pleased.

-tuneds4

these sound really familiar. Maybe the hack is just copying others works and labeling them as his own!

This guy should be in Jail! Spread the word about this if you feel the same.
-tuned s4

the " - " means who said the quote

i.e. "- ACE"
means "ACE" said the quote.

[tuned s4]

Name says it all "Kid" you missed the point


And your contradictory ie "Motodyne is not real"
Thanks RKA for the pic's of Motodynes building. Now that makes a lot of sense

Now we have a Viper specialist and a Maybach expert all in the same thread,
I asked for real examples of Motodyne fraud, and for a few to check out my car while it's getting fitted at Motodyne. And since your all full of crap probably mostly worried your baseless propaganda about motodyne is falling apart now that it's outside of audiworld it can't hold it's weight. Your struggling for reasons and switching topics.........

Walter [drive]

[RKA]

Rob, we've gone absolutely nowhere since I posted the pictures of the stickers on the lease door. I've asked several times...and I really don't know how to be any more clear. You're diverting this conversation in several directions...all AWAY from the point.

I can be down there to take pictures of the kit on Monday. Furthermore, when the kit is fully installed (inside a week? You've had it 10 days already.), I'll pay for a few hours on AWE's dyno. Let's show all these doubters what this kit is all about, shall we? And when Englishtown opens up in the spring, I'll pay for a night on the strip as well. I'll have a camera and/or camcorder in hand for each event. If everything is above board, this will only serve as additional FREE marketing for you, right? Step up buddy...it's your turn to shine in the light. You've worked very hard to be the first to market with this kit. Let's show everybody what you're capable of!

[RKA]

Oh, and in case you missed it, on page 3 someone was asking about your affiliation with Chemtech. How about addressing that?

[S4CJC]

The thing i dont seem to understand, in your first post you said "In short; i think he knew i didn't understand everything he was talking about" but now it seems as if you are an expert on everything. I would have to agree with everyone else that you are either Rob, or you have some sort of relationship with motodyne to back them this much IMO. You should take RKA up on his offer though and prove everyone wrong, if you have the kit, just my .02

[nadroj81]

Originally posted by RKA
Oh, and in case you missed it, on page 3 someone was asking about your affiliation with Chemtech. How about addressing that?


let me know if you have any analytical qualifications....

[bdaddy]

I propose that no one else posts anything else here other than requests that a representative of Motodyne or the owner of this car(tuneds4) meet RKA at the shop. RKA has put it plain and simple that he's willing to drive down and document the validity of these claims.
Anything else serves to allow this guy to divert attention away from the real issue and a very practical and simple solution to this intarw3b arguing.
So, please show us the goods...

[S6 4RiNGS]

I Vote for that... Things will be cool if there is some proof, cause this thread is getting ridiculous.

[audi_a4_kid]

aye!

[audi_a4_kid]

Somehow i doubt any person with a motodyne s/c or any kit will meet with RKA.

[TheBlueMartin]

Originally posted by TheBlueMartin
Im just interested to see. They dont list a price, but a lot of people have been asking about it. I just wonder if anyone has stepped up to do it yet??

http://www.motodyne.com/frames/audi_s4-v8.html

Mabey I should have just asked if anyone had ANY supercharged 4.2 yet. I didnt know squat about Motodyne before I started this post, but it was the only place I knew offered a blower kit for it. Sorry if this thing has lit so many fires, I just wanted to know what the results were becuase I was planning on supercharging my car. Regardless of my car, there are a few things that I have found interesting on this thread:


Originally posted by tuned s4

Now we have a Viper specialist and a Maybach expert all in the same thread, (later post)

it's called a boost controller, Some Audis use this to control boost levels acorording to gear selection; a good example is the URS4

I consider myself an Audi specialist, and I have never heard of using a boost controler on any vehicle to control "levels acorording to gear selection". They are used to regulate boost according to RPM to keep an optimum fuel mixture at all times, no matter what gear.


Originally posted by astris

That is absolutely hilarious. Now I know you are Hack...

THE MOTODYNE WEBPAGE WAS JUST UPDATE

Just FYI, the day I started this thread and 'tuned s4' responded, a price was placed on the Motodyne website (which has a great picture of its "as seen in Ronin" N20 system{used on an S8}, a 1.8T manifold)

With all the mud that is being thrown in here, I want to fully seperate myself from this thread. I didnt mean for it to turn into all of this... [headbang]

[OverSpun]

im in favor of RKA's proposition...

btw, "Walter" (robert) there was someone on audizine 1.0 that i dont recall the name of, but on a motodyne thread (that i could find if the search feature worked on the archive website that holds records of audizine 1.0) i specifically remember it, but the username fails me. i'm going to look into it further and i'll be back with some findings if anything comes up.

[tuned s4]

wrong, it's not a 1.8T manifold for someone who claims to be
ie" I consider myself an Audi specialist"
your not a very bright one then
Ever see or hear of an AVCR type boost controller and an RV overdrive unit being bolted onto a ZF tranny no because you didn't go to motodyne.

Maybe your backing out of your thread because your full of yourself

Walter
your post got more attention then anything you've ever talked about here?


Just FYI, the day I started this thread and 'tuned s4' responded, a price was placed on the Motodyne website (which has a great picture of its "as seen in Ronin" N20 system{used on an S8}, a 1.8T manifold)

[crew219]

Originally posted by tuned s4
wrong, it's not a 1.8T manifold for someone who claims to be
ie" I consider myself an Audi specialist"
your not a very bright one then
Ever see or hear of an AVCR type boost controller and an RV overdrive unit being bolted onto a ZF tranny no because you didn't go to motodyne.

Maybe your backing out of your thread because your full of yourself

Walter
your post got more attention then anything you've ever talked about here?


Just FYI, the day I started this thread and 'tuned s4' responded, a price was placed on the Motodyne website (which has a great picture of its "as seen in Ronin" N20 system{used on an S8}, a 1.8T manifold)

I'm still curious as to what his IP comes up as . . . .

Seems like you know a LOT about motodyne products [rolleyes]

[crew219]

i was googling motodyne and i found their parts list here: http://www.kalecoauto.com/ ;)

[audi_a4_kid]

when did you take those pics of the engine tuned s4?

[tuned s4]

all explained in the stroker post......

[TheBlueMartin]

Originally posted by tuned s4
Maybe your backing out of your thread because your full of yourself

Walter
your post got more attention then anything you've ever talked about here?

Full of myself?? I asked a simple question, looking for a simple answer from a few people. Now you have turned it into a joke. I was in full support of you in the begining, but now you've burnt every bridge in this place, and you keep fighting. Unlike your postes around this place, mine are all to keep with whatever business I may, and help a few people out where I can. This isnt even my primary Audi group site.
But obviously working for a chemical comany gives you more knowledge about these vehicles than my automotive engineering degree and employment with a supporting company to AoA ever will. Boy I hope I can learn from this...

[tuned s4]

whatever you say Big Chief
with lines like
"This isn't even my primary Audi group site." So what are you asking for a handicap?

All of a sudden you feel compelled to remove yourself from this post or did somebody threaten your audiworld membership is that the problem?

[audi_a4_kid]

no it was not explained in the pic

[OverSpun]

Originally posted by tuned s4
wrong, it's not a 1.8T manifold for someone who claims to be
ie" I consider myself an Audi specialist"
your not a very bright one then
Ever see or hear of an AVCR type boost controller and an RV overdrive unit being bolted onto a ZF tranny no because you didn't go to motodyne.

Maybe your backing out of your thread because your full of yourself

Walter
your post got more attention then anything you've ever talked about here?


Just FYI, the day I started this thread and 'tuned s4' responded, a price was placed on the Motodyne website (which has a great picture of its "as seen in Ronin" N20 system{used on an S8}, a 1.8T manifold)

they never showed any "N20 system" on the car in Ronin. It was mentioned, but not shown. it was a movie..... movies are staged incase you didnt know.

next, unrelated to all this... but does Clumpymold know that his car is plastered on the motodyne website?

http://www.motodyne.com/frames/audi_a4.html

just take a look, i'd be pretty damn pissed if i were him. infact, thats a serious legal offense to use pictures without permission.

[OverSpun]

next, someone needs to tell them that B5 S4s do not run from 2000-2003...only 2000-2002.

http://www.motodyne.com/frames/audi_s4.html

also cute how audiworld members get a special inflated price...

http://www.motodyne.com/frames/audi_s4-v8.html

i guess it doesnt pay to be a dick... but atleast people on audiworld are smart enough to not want to buy it no matter what the price is.

[tuned s4]

more baseless BS.
Sounds more like a few suffer from motodyne obsession, SBgirl will share her pills for this..........

[TheBlueMartin]

Originally posted by OverSpun
they never showed any "N20 system" on the car in Ronin. It was mentioned, but not shown. it was a movie..... movies are staged incase you didnt know.

Sorry I brought that up. I found it amusing it was mentioned in the movie, but never actually shown or used, yet Motodyne seems to be taking credit for having it.
For anyone that has been sucked into seeing this page by this post, might as well see it now

http://www.motodyne.com/frames/audi_a8s8ms8l.html

At the bottom of the page is an "N20 system", but the picture gets me. The body of that picture looks like a 1.8T intake...other than 'tuned s4', does anyone think otherwise?

[OverSpun]

no, but it does say something for the legitimacy and general understanding and knowledge of car makes and business ethic. which you of all people should know about mr. hack.... you hack.

[OverSpun]

Originally posted by TheBlueMartin
Sorry I brought that up. I found it amusing it was mentioned in the movie, but never actually shown or used, yet Motodyne seems to be taking credit for having it.
For anyone that has been sucked into seeing this page by this post, might as well see it now

http://www.motodyne.com/frames/audi_a8s8ms8l.html

At the bottom of the page is an "N20 system", but the picture gets me. The body of that picture looks like a 1.8T intake...other than 'tuned s4', does anyone think otherwise?

no, its cool, thats another solid false claim. because it wasnt showed in Ronin, it was mentioned.

[TheBlueMartin]

Originally posted by tuned s4
whatever you say Big Chief
with lines like
"This isn't even my primary Audi group site." So what are you asking for a handicap?

All of a sudden you feel compelled to remove yourself from this post or did somebody threaten your audiworld membership is that the problem?

Never been on Audiworld.....dont care to. I use this handle with anything I use on the net.
Any other baseless comments (other than the ones about cars)?

[tuned s4]

Your basically showing how jealous you are of a persons achievements.
For an Audi specialist you claim to be.... How come you can't properly identify the manifold.

Do you walk with a limp cause somebody kicked you ass? Just wondering

[TheBlueMartin]

Originally posted by tuned s4
Do you walk with a limp cause somebody kicked you ass? Just wondering

Now you just made an enemy you dont want.

I got slashed in the right ankle by a cheap shot last month during an ice hockey game. Ill be skating again in 6 weeks. Name your rink and time (if you can play), Ill be there with a smile. [:D]

[ROUGHEDGES]

this is crazy. This is such bullshit. You said you knew nothing about cars, now you know everything. This is hack. And yeah, good job with the engine on rims. Real good quality work for 13k. If he sold so many products why is shop a shit hole.
i will go down there with anyone who wants and take pics. How about that.

[Anthony]

If it's going to be personal, take it offline.

Actually, this Thread hasn't been very informative for awhile now, don't see it getting back on topic or not continuing on this back-and-forth path, so it's lock time.

Moral of the story, if you don't like a specific shop/tuner, then don't give them your business.