It's time to say good bye...It's been a good run.

[vinny.dtw]

To my Tiptronic!

Now that plans are more solidified, I decided to open it to the public. Originally, I was going to be more discreet about this, however, this whole thing will be documented and posted eventually, so I might as well share it earlier with the community. I happened to find a drivetrain semi close to me. Therefore out goes the tiptronic, and in goes a 6 speed manual that I purchased with 40k miles. Here is a list of the parts that are acquired or being acquired currently.

6 Speed transmission / shifter linkage / shifter boot / shifter knob / Shifter box / front drive shafts / trans crossmember / center drive shaft / rear differential / slave cylinder / pedal assembly / master cylinders / clutch hydraulic lines.

Obviously with this opportunity to take everything out, as some of you may know, I purchased Dougs stroker motor. Which will mate my 6 speed transmission. And here is my plan.

Phase I:
Greg/DTH: Will be supplying me with Clutchmasters Clutch / 034 street density motor, transmission mount, and snub mount / JHM short shifter, solid throw package / RS4 pedals and dead pedal / RS4 shift knob, and a Aluminum manual center piece.

Drivetrain / Motor Swap: Done at a shop in Rhode Island.

An AEB head will be replaced with Dougs current non-high flow head. Preparing for future upgrades to the intake manifold.

I will still use my Eliminator GTRS turbo in this phase as I'm curious what a REAL manual eliminator car can do. So the turbo upgrade will not be immediate, but plans can change.

[B]Phase II
Deciding the hardware that will be coupled with my motor. As per usual, I will be aiming for reliability, so I'm not trying to be the fastest car out there. Goal is in the regions of 400AWHP, but with stock drivability. So hardware is not 100% set stone.

Phase III
Cry...Because I could of bought a manual car easily to do this and save money. But I'm attached to my car.

Let the fun begin, I'll post pics of parts this Tuesday/Wensday, and as parts come in. Start date we are aiming for end of January, beginning of February.

[Greedo]

Sounds like you have a fun little project up your sleeve. Best of luck. I'm sure you'll quite enjoy it when you're done. If it wasn't for my car being my daily (and being lazy and hating city traffic) I would much prefer a 6spd, but for what it is I like my tip.

[eg6siR]

good shit vinny!! i am also working on a BT winter upgrade, i just dont want to let the cat out of the bag just yet... not like i am doing anything special, i just dont want 10 pages in a thread before i even have anything completed... more than likely i will make my build thread the day i finish my winter project.

[aaaudiprotein]

Good Luck Vinny!
But wouldnt that be cheaper to get another car?

[nananana4k]

Congrats Vinny. Good luck with it all.

[400HPA4]

Phase I is provided by you...you work at DTH, I ain't paying for the stuff [;)]

[vintagespin]

i could sort of sense this from some of your earlier posts. good stuff. this will be neat to watch

[A4orce84]

Woah Vinny, you scared me man! Glad to see you are keeping your ride, its one of my favs on the board!

Good luck with the build!


--Asif

[7speed]

should be a good build to follow..... good luck

[Audized]

Sounds very exciting. I've been considering doing this tranny swap as I'm emotionally attached to my car as well. [:p]

Keep us posted throughout the whole progress. Good luck with the swap!

[absolutegtr]

Good stuff Vinny [up] Should have bought my 6spd manual driveshaft. Its special

[EBG 18T]

should be a fun and involving project.

[IVRINGS]

Back to the build guys! So what Clutchmasters Clutch are you going with. I've been looking at the FX300 and FX400. I've been liking the idea of FX400 if I got GT30 or bigger, but wanted your intake on what you are doing.

[400HPA4]

We have a 240mm version that CM will be making for us, which will offer just a little more clamp for either the FX300 or 400.

I need to get five orders together to have the flywheels cut.

Standard size is 228mm

[biketsai]

Join the club!
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=299543

[Ill 3.0]

Agressive undertaking but best of luck. I'm glad someone picked up Dougs motor so I could stop thinking about engine swaps right now.

[NyteEscape]

best of luck, please do take pictures. i won't ever have to do this, but i would love to see it to learn.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

As for the Build, GL man, finally someone stepped up to the plate, I decided not to as I want to build the most powerful tip on the road.

[maclem8223]

good luck to you vinny in all your endeavors. It willbe a good build and respect the responsiblity you have had to take on with the business and everything.

[AvanTTix]

Good luck w/ your project/build Vinny... [up]

Let us know if you decide you want this thread to be moved to the Projects and Builds sub-forum...

PS: I removed personal info from this thread and the post that led to it. That particular topic has no place here and is none of AZ business.

[mxrz]

It's about time someone did the swap on the B6 [up] Make sure you document it well, I may follow suit next year, once I get a new daily driver.

[vinny.dtw]

Thank you everyone for having my back.

Steph, thanks for cleaning it up.

Kirk, more props to you, but you have Ray as a contender in that category. Last time I checked he's on his way building his motor as well paired with the tiptronic. So good luck buddy.

Max, I'll do the best of my ability. As I most likely won't be supervising this while the mechanic does this, unless he can do this in a timely manner, but who am I kidding. For something like this i'd rather give him plenty of time and not have any hickups. I'll try to get him to document everything. I'll take pictures of each and every part for others reference.

[B6JoeS4]

Im glas you are doing the manual swap. my plans are to buy a donor car in the springtime to do the swap.

my only concern right now is getting all of the computers to work with eachother. im worried about what the ecu is going to do when it goes to look for a tiptronic and finds nothing.

definitely let me know how you are going about making it work right

[Sales@RAI]

Wow that sounds like an absolutely insane project. I thought my build was expensive! haha.

You want 400awhp on the eliminator?

[mrbacardi35]

We have a 240mm version that CM will be making for us, which will offer just a little more clamp for either the FX300 or 400.

I need to get five orders together to have the flywheels cut.

Standard size is 228mm

is it going to be aluminum or steel fw?

[alexza4]

Good stuff Vinny! I thought holly shit another one bit the dust after reading your title... Good luck with the project and keep us posted.

[Vinny@DTH]

Wow that sounds like an absolutely insane project. I thought my build was expensive! haha.

You want 400awhp on the eliminator?

Oh heck no on the GTRS. I doubt its possible. Thats phase 2. After I put the motor and tranny in. I'll be putting something bigger after. Just haven't had much luck with deciding what turbo/manifold/tuning etc etc. So i'm taking it slow rather then rushing in and doing it all at once. Just enjoying the phases of modding.

[biketsai]

Im glas you are doing the manual swap. my plans are to buy a donor car in the springtime to do the swap.

my only concern right now is getting all of the computers to work with eachother. im worried about what the ecu is going to do when it goes to look for a tiptronic and finds nothing.

definitely let me know how you are going about making it work right

You wanna know what the ECU does when it goes looking for the TCU and its not there?! It automatically resets itself in manual mode! Whenever I removed my TCU after the swap (even before recoding), the cluster said "Press clutch to start car".

[Vinny@DTH]

You wanna know what the ECU does when it goes looking for the TCU and its not there?! It automatically resets itself in manual mode! Whenever I removed my TCU after the swap (even before recoding), the cluster said "Press clutch to start car".

Biketsai, I read your thread, and i have to give you props for doing it. I'd never be able to do this by myself like you did. I hope the b6 ecu does the same. I need to go unplug my TCU to try it if it applies to the b6 chassis.

[400HPA4]

is it going to be aluminum or steel fw?

Aluminum, 14lbs. If the clutch proves itself popular, then billet steel as well.

[Sales@RAI]

Oh heck no on the GTRS. I doubt its possible. Thats phase 2. After I put the motor and tranny in. I'll be putting something bigger after. Just haven't had much luck with deciding what turbo/manifold/tuning etc etc. So i'm taking it slow rather then rushing in and doing it all at once. Just enjoying the phases of modding.

well your car is going to be a bunch faster even with that same turbo either way, so that should be fun

[400HPA4]

I'll set him up with a 360AWHP tune on the GTRS, then all of that fueling and associated fueling hardware will carry over to the HTA 30R

515 will be his number on the 30R

[dougyfresh]

Hi Vince. Just saw this thread now, but gotta head across town for the evening. Good stuff! [up] Let me know how tomorrow goes.

[dougyfresh]

You wanna know what the ECU does when it goes looking for the TCU and its not there?! It automatically resets itself in manual mode! Whenever I removed my TCU after the swap (even before recoding), the cluster said "Press clutch to start car".

It should from what I have been told. Vince just has to unplug the TCU and let me know what he sees (been asking him for weeks to do it but he's been quite busy). Worst case, I have an '04 6spd ECU we can use.

[400HPA4]

AMB ECM is not transmission specific...

[Elliott]

Good luck Leslie!

[:p]

[ivoryman50]

I've always wondered about this also, seeing it took me a month to find an avant and I didn't want to take the chance on not finding another one. What kind of problems would there be mating it to a stock motor? What about the pedal assembly? How hard is that to swap over?

[NightRoller USP]

Congrats and Goodluck Vinny!!!!

I will surely be watching this thread.....good things are soon to come!

[B6JoeS4]

Where is the TCU on a 3.0? ill go unplug it now if someone can tell me where the thing is.

[wolfdog]

Wow, Vinny. I didn't know you bought Doug's motor. This is going to be GREAT to follow. Good call on the manual switch. I wish you luck!

[mxrz]

What kind of problems would there be mating it to a stock motor?

Crankshaft is different, for one.

[OneBadAudi]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b201/Farrside420/pump_you_up_lg.jpg

Good luck Vinny.Cant wait to see the finished product..I bet that motor is solid as a rock. [up]

[skeeball]

Welcome to a real transmission.

[Siggiepop]

interesting to see but that is a shit load of $.
You must be reaching the $20,000 mark give or take
Interesting build to follow

[doublezero30]

sounds like this will be crazy! it better be happening in the spring time and while youre in the area (relatively) you better be going to a GTG so i can check this bad larry out!!

[trexturk]

nice build vince. Can't wait to see it done

[vinny.dtw]

sounds like this will be crazy! it better be happening in the spring time and while youre in the area (relatively) you better be going to a GTG so i can check this bad larry out!!

I'll be visiting some local audiziners for sure. It would be nice to put some names to faces finally.


interesting to see but that is a shit load of $.
You must be reaching the $20,000 mark give or take
Interesting build to follow

We'll meet, I'm actually heading to Toronto this Tuesday. 1.9L??


Where is the TCU on a 3.0? ill go unplug it now if someone can tell me where the thing is.

IT should be right under the ECU, by the drive side fire wall. It's too cold here, and I have no lights outside my GF's house. Or else I would go try it.


Thanks again everyone. I'll be sure to update.

[MCT9891]

Phase III
Cry...Because I could of bought a manual car easily to do this and save money. But I'm attached to my car.

God yes, i was thinking about doing this, everyone asked why not a manual... and called me stupid for being attached... cant help it.

[A4natomical]

Wow! So much news to me. I'm stoked for you!
Can't wait to see the progress. It looks like you have a solid and timed phase
of plans which is extremely important. Good luck!!

[Tgr_Clw]

Wow. Interesting news Vinny. Good luck.

[Tgr_Clw]

Wow. AND Doug's motor... NICE.

[B6Lovin]

Welcome to a real transmission.

yeah. and when he breaks them after he puts a bigger turbo on he can be welcomed to the club of "i have a manual.... and i've broken atleast 1 or 2" [>_<][>_<][>_<]

glad to finally see you post up about this [up] GL vinny

[Tgr_Clw]

yeah. and when he breaks them after he puts a bigger turbo on he can be welcomed to the club of "i have a manual.... and i've broken atleast 1 or 2" [>_<][>_<][>_<]

He doesn't need a GT30 to break a tranny. I've managed to do it with a K04 [:(]

[Siggiepop]

We'll meet, I'm actually heading to Toronto this Tuesday. 1.9L??

yeah vinny building the motor should be almost done. Tuesday? nice put a shout out on the regional thread

[vinny.dtw]

yeah. and when he breaks them after he puts a bigger turbo on he can be welcomed to the club of "i have a manual.... and i've broken atleast 1 or 2" [>_<][>_<][>_<]

glad to finally see you post up about this [up] GL vinny

I don't wanna break trannys. [=(]


yeah vinny building the motor should be almost done. Tuesday? nice put a shout out on the regional thread

Wow you are getting a build to eh? This can be interesting.I'll post up in the canuck forum. DOubt i'll get any answers tho. Are you mating ur built motor with the elim?

Roman: Thanks.

[B6Lovin]

I don't wanna break trannys. [=(]



Wow you are getting a build to eh? This can be interesting.I'll post up in the canuck forum. DOubt i'll get any answers tho. Are you mating ur built motor with the elim?

Roman: Thanks.

tough cookies. you COULD go ahead and start saving for a built tranny first, and THEN do the turbo stuff... then you'd only have to do everything once.

but if you get lazy like the rest of us, replacement transmissions are fairly cheap (oh wait.... not for you) and easy to come by... (again... you're fucked)


**ninja edits for 6spd's in parenthases**
have fun vinny [:)]



He doesn't need a GT30 to break a tranny. I've managed to do it with a K04 [:(]

it's a lot easier with a 30R though lol

your window of getting your shift right gets smaller/happens faster.... and your window of getting it wrong and either stripping out/blowing up 3rd or just demolishing 1st on a launch gets exponentially larger. ask me how i know/found out 3 times already [>_<][>_<]

[skeeball]

You done good, Vinny. [;)]

[Siggiepop]

Wow you are getting a build to eh? This can be interesting.I'll post up in the canuck forum. DOubt i'll get any answers tho. Are you mating ur built motor with the elim?

for now yes I am

[vinny.dtw]

tough cookies. you COULD go ahead and start saving for a built tranny first, and THEN do the turbo stuff... then you'd only have to do everything once.

but if you get lazy like the rest of us, replacement transmissions are fairly cheap (oh wait.... not for you) and easy to come by... (again... you're fucked)


**ninja edits for 6spd's in parenthases**
have fun vinny [:)]


I need the 6th gear for highway cruising...as thats is about 80% of my daily commute. I'm playing with the idea of picking up that b6 S4 tranny that I found right now as a spare. If it only sets me back a few hundred, so I can have a spare so be it.

But I doubt I'll be driving 1/10 as hard as you will though Dan. Its not like im going to be a weekend warrior racer...

[vinny.dtw]

for now yes I am

I see, sounds like fun. [:D] The anticipation is already killing me to be honest.


You done good, Vinny. [;)]

Why thank you.

[Siggiepop]

I see, sounds like fun. [:D] The anticipation is already killing me to be honest.
I cant wait to see yours. Mines been off the road for almost a solid 4 months. Little hiccups and delays here and there, $20 dollar part, $100 part. Parts that were suppose to be overnight shipped were not. Shit gets old!

[vinny.dtw]

I cant wait to see yours. Mines been off the road for almost a solid 4 months. Little hiccups and delays here and there, 20 dollar part, $100 part. Parts that were suppose to be overnight shipped were not. Shit gets old!

I hope I don't have you beat...4 months without the car would be too long for me. Who's doing the work on your motor?

[dougyfresh]

Welcome to a real transmission.

01E too!




tough cookies. you COULD go ahead and start saving for a built tranny first, and THEN do the turbo stuff... then you'd only have to do everything once.

but if you get lazy like the rest of us, replacement transmissions are fairly cheap (oh wait.... not for you) and easy to come by... (again... you're fucked)


**ninja edits for 6spd's in parenthases**
have fun vinny [:)]

He will be fine, Daniel. He doesn't drag or shift the car very hard which is how you guys keep blowing up transmissions.

[B6Lovin]

Yeah I realize - just don't want him caught off guard.

Vinny, I'd go ahead and get a spare if you can, never hurts. Even if you're not racing all it takes is one botched wot shift to 3rd on the highway and kaplow, good bye 3rd gear/transmission. Just ask John.

[vinny.dtw]

Yeah I realize - just don't want him caught off guard.

Vinny, I'd go ahead and get a spare if you can, never hurts. Even if you're not racing all it takes is one botched wot shift to 3rd on the highway and kaplow, good bye 3rd gear/transmission. Just ask John.

Yea...well as I said, i hope i don't blow any transmissions. I suppose worst case scenario if I can't find any 6 speeds after the spare, I can always go back to 5 speed, and swap the driveshaft, and shifter.

Does anyone have a DIY on swapping trans?

[AudiA4Turbo22]

Thank you everyone for having my back.

Steph, thanks for cleaning it up.

Kirk, more props to you, but you have Ray as a contender in that category. Last time I checked he's on his way building his motor as well paired with the tiptronic. So good luck buddy.

Max, I'll do the best of my ability. As I most likely won't be supervising this while the mechanic does this, unless he can do this in a timely manner, but who am I kidding. For something like this i'd rather give him plenty of time and not have any hickups. I'll try to get him to document everything. I'll take pictures of each and every part for others reference.

My car ain't gonna be no slouch I've taken all the steps I could to build this bad boy. It'll be a nice starting point I'm at least hoping for mid 350AWHP with the current setup only time will tell though. Hey u never know if this works out I might follow with the swap. Do me one favor though, check the difference between your current crankshaft and the new one going in, and see what would have to be done in order for it to fit.

[BEESIX]

dammittt now someone has to teach you how to drive stick[;)] lool love ya leslie GL with the build let me know if i can help in anyway!

[AudiA4Turbo22]

Yea...well as I said, i hope i don't blow any transmissions. I suppose worst case scenario if I can't find any 6 speeds after the spare, I can always go back to 5 speed, and swap the driveshaft, and shifter.

Does anyone have a DIY on swapping trans?

Yes a gentlemen who posted earlier in this thread swapped from a tip to a 5 speed in his B5 all steps were written out.

Here's the thread:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=299543

[AudiA4Turbo22]

how about selling me your vast software?

[vinny.dtw]

Yes a gentlemen who posted earlier in this thread swapped from a tip to a 5 speed in his B5 all steps were written out.

Here's the thread:

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=299543

No, I meant like a trans change. Like manual to manual. I read that thread about a million times. He actually posted in this thread earlier.


My car ain't gonna be no slouch I've taken all the steps I could to build this bad boy. It'll be a nice starting point I'm at least hoping for mid 350AWHP with the current setup only time will tell though. Hey u never know if this works out I might follow with the swap. Do me one favor though, check the difference between your current crankshaft and the new one going in, and see what would have to be done in order for it to fit.

All I have to say is don't forget to tune your wastegate spring...Thats half the reason why my car is slower, and I never got around to taking it out and setting it to a higher PSI. I could never hold more then 20psi in 3rd gear.


My justification is this, when I mean I won't blow transmissions. THe two 6 speeds, the one that I bought is from a 3.0, and the one that i'm looking into, is a b6 s4. i know the ratios aren't the same, however they are supposedly able to handle similiar amounts of power. Crank HP of a s4 is roughly 340...which is right where my ELIM setup might be at, or slightly higher...And so far, I haven't seen many s4 owners blow their tranny up. I hope my logic is right...If not, then oh well, shit happens, life goes on.

[vinny.dtw]

how about selling me your vast software?

I dunno, if its transferable Kirk. ANd I don't want to send out the physical TCU for you only for you to realize that it doesn't work...Might have to ask Vast for that one...

What year is your car again?

[Ill 3.0]

My justification is this, when I mean I won't blow transmissions. THe two 6 speeds, the one that I bought is from a 3.0, and the one that i'm looking into, is a b6 s4.

Yup, like Doug said an 01E should be fine, you have nothing to worry about assuming there wasn't a problem with the tranny to start. This isn't the crap 5-speed from the 1.8Ts but the same trans used in B5 S4 [up].

[BARRY]

so it has been confirmed you can retro a B6 S4 transmission to the 1.8t style block?

[trexturk]

So vinny, you think with this new setup, you will be able to keep up??[drive]

[dougyfresh]

so it has been confirmed you can retro a B6 S4 transmission to the 1.8t style block?

Bolt pattern is the same.

01E was used on 2002-2003 B6 A4 3.0L 6spd model cars with a 4.11:1 final drive so if you can score a drivetrain from that year and model vehicle you can get the 01E in your B6 1.8T chassis without having to fab up mounts. Vince just happened to find a 2002 3.0L 6spd being parted out. We also have a B6 S4 drivetrain at our disposal as an alternative.

In 2004 they switched over to the 01X 6spd with a 3.89:1 final drive which is in the B6 1.8T and 3.0 and B6 S4 (and I believe B7 A4).

[skeeball]

Bolt pattern is the same.

01E was used on 2002-2003 B6 A4 3.0L 6spd model cars with a 4.11:1 final drive so if you can score a drivetrain from that year and model vehicle you can get the 01E in your B6 1.8T chassis without having to fab up mounts. Vince just happened to find a 2002 3.0L 6spd being parted out. We also have a B6 S4 drivetrain at our disposal as an alternative.

In 2004 they switched over to the 01X 6spd with a 3.89:1 final drive which is in the B6 1.8T and 3.0 and B6 S4 (and I believe B7 A4).
01X is a fronttrash 6-speed. 02X is the AWD 6-speed. The B6 02X came with 3.889 final drive on the 3.0 and 4.111 on the 1.8T. The B7 02X had 3.889 on the 2.0T and 4.375 on the 3.2.

The B6 3.0 01E had a 4.375 final drive.

[up]

[Sales@RAI]

hmmm sounds like the B6 3.0 might be the way to go then. Rep for you Dave!

[AudiA4Turbo22]

I dunno, if its transferable Kirk. ANd I don't want to send out the physical TCU for you only for you to realize that it doesn't work...Might have to ask Vast for that one...

What year is your car again?

2003 and will look into the wastegate spring thanx

[Papachristou]

I need the 6th gear for highway cruising...as thats is about 80% of my daily commute. I'm playing with the idea of picking up that b6 S4 tranny that I found right now as a spare. If it only sets me back a few hundred, so I can have a spare so be it.

But I doubt I'll be driving 1/10 as hard as you will though Dan. Its not like im going to be a weekend warrior racer...

if you want the sixth gear for cruising sure as hell dont get a s4 tranny. my wifes s4 runs 3100 at 80mph [o_o] i have no clue why but its runs much higher RPM than my a4

but congrats on dougs motor. that thing is stunna and you know anything that jake/doug touch will be done right

[skeeball]

Also, B6/7 S4 used the 0A3 which has a 3.889 final drive. And the RS4 too.

[Papachristou]

damn you are a wealth of tranny knowledge!

perhaps you can tell us why the s4s run such high RPM compared to a4s?

[400HPA4]

Good information on the gearing Skee...however 01A, 01X, 02X, 02A, 0A3 are not transmission codes.

Transmission for Quattro cars are FNU, FTZ, FPT, GBT (5 speed) and FYF, GBE, GJW, GJV, HEP, FVD (six speed)

Since the six speeds are of whats concern here are the ratios and codes.

FYF, 37/9
GBE, 37/9
GJW, 37/9
GJV, 35/9
HEP, 35/9
FVD, 35/9

Here is a great thread regarding transmission gear ratios http://www.audigeeks.com/forums/index.php?topic=386.0

[skeeball]

All this info is from Bentley. The 02X and 0A3 have different gear ratios.

[skeeball]

Good information on the gearing Skee...however 01A, 01X, 02X, 02A, 0A3 are not transmission codes.
Yeah, I know. But I figured if I put GJW and FVD most people wouldn't know what I was talking about. [>_<]

[Siggiepop]

I hope I don't have you beat...4 months without the car would be too long for me. Who's doing the work on your motor?

Vinny..location shop here in Canada. Motor arrived today so should be done by the end of this week

[Turbo1A4]

subscribed!!!!!!!!

[Vinny@DTH]

Guess lady luck was on my side finding a 6 speed 01E. Pics to come!

[EUROaleksey]

no.. f-in way

[vinny.dtw]

Well, the trip to Canada was a huge hassle. Traffic SUCKED, but I retrieved the parts none the less. I think I got everything in terms of drive train, but not all of it is shown on the pics. [:D] Getting a little closer!

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6Z8R3DRztNo/SzY1jSyPJlI/AAAAAAAACSc/mzeUdn9eB1U/s640/IMG_3077.jpg

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_6Z8R3DRztNo/SzY1j1GJ40I/AAAAAAAACSk/KyzpctSUjVQ/s512/IMG_3081.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6Z8R3DRztNo/SzY1kT00QpI/AAAAAAAACSo/quJ_GTyYBfU/s512/IMG_3082.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6Z8R3DRztNo/SzY1kkdf6uI/AAAAAAAACSs/JlkTeUAYhQU/s640/IMG_3084.jpg

[Bische]

Looking good[up]

Hope you get it in without any hassles!

[CyberPMG]

Wow!! I don't know how I missed seeing this earlier. Vinny, you have a very impressive laundry list for your build. I don't blame you for wanting to hold onto the car and do all the work. I would probably do the same thing.

With that stroker engine, you can really build up a rocket (once you move off the eliminator). 400awhp is a good goal. I'll be lucky to get 300awhp for my upgrade.

I'll definitely want to check it out and go for a ride when we're at Motorstadt in June. [drive] Best of luck in your build! [wrench]

[martini]

ouch... waste of money man... should have started from scratch

what parts of the work you doing yourself? I can lend a hand if need be

[RLB6]

Aww shit son! I'm following this thread. This is gonna be some serious venturing but may all be worth it in the end. I wish you all the luck Vince

.....too bad you flaked out on the tip community but I fully understand why. I'll start revealing my plans in the coming months. (with pics).

but again, good luck [up]

[vintagespin]

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6Z8R3DRztNo/SzY1kT00QpI/AAAAAAAACSo/quJ_GTyYBfU/s512/IMG_3082.jpg

what are these wheels?

[Vinny@DTH]

GF's brothers G35, they are Volks or something rather.

[Vinny@DTH]

Aww shit son! I'm following this thread. This is gonna be some serious venturing but may all be worth it in the end. I wish you all the luck Vince

.....too bad you flaked out on the tip community but I fully understand why. I'll start revealing my plans in the coming months. (with pics).

but again, good luck [up]

I'm curious about your build. As much as I want to stick with TIP, I don't trust any company yet with a built TIP. Every single documented built tiptronic tranny, (not just valve body, and tq conv) that I've read so far, hasn't had a very smooth transition. So i'll be following closely to your build as well.

You may have to get in contact with Vast somehow so your can have software for your tranny to spin more aggressively and beyond 7200 rpm. [;)]

[dougyfresh]

Well, the trip to Canada was a huge hassle. Traffic SUCKED, but I retrieved the parts none the less. I think I got everything in terms of drive train, but not all of it is shown on the pics. [:D] Getting a little closer!

Looks like we got it. Good Job Vince!

[boy412]

We have a 240mm version that CM will be making for us, which will offer just a little more clamp for either the FX300 or 400.

I need to get five orders together to have the flywheels cut.

Standard size is 228mm

Damn you Greg! I think my Spec clutch is on the outs, so I may be hitting you up for a CM clutch soon.

[boy412]

...oh, and subscribed! Good luck Vinny.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

I'm curious about your build. As much as I want to stick with TIP, I don't trust any company yet with a built TIP. Every single documented built tiptronic tranny, (not just valve body, and tq conv) that I've read so far, hasn't had a very smooth transition. So i'll be following closely to your build as well.

You may have to get in contact with Vast somehow so your can have software for your tranny to spin more aggressively and beyond 7200 rpm. [;)]

I know a few people running tips built by IPT or 517 making 412AWHP+

trust me they'll be strong as long as they are built right.

But continue with your project as it would be something unique and make us all jealous [>_<]

[vinny.dtw]

I know a few people running tips built by IPT or 517 making 412AWHP+

trust me they'll be strong as long as they are built right.

But continue with your project as it would be something unique and make us all jealous [>_<]

You are talking about B5 s4s...?

[Kerschera4]

I would be interested in seeing a 412awhp tip A4[confused] that worked..

[AudiA4Turbo22]

You are talking about B5 s4s...?

correct

[EYE4SPEED]

Good stuff here Vinny. Hope you have this up and running for that East Side meet in Feb.

[Jake39454]

Nice job on getting those parts [up]

[vinny.dtw]

One more piece of the puzzle arrived today [:)]

http://gallery.me.com/kwanvinc/100074/IMG_2502/web.jpg?ver=12630701150001

[dougyfresh]

that is sexy!

[AudiA4Turbo22]

Vinny have u driven a manual car lately or not.

[vinny.dtw]

Vinny have u driven a manual car lately or not.

I've been driving a 2008 Subaru STi for the past week. So yes? Why?

[400HPA4]

I've been driving a 2008 Subaru STi for the past week. So yes? Why?

I think he is racist...
http://www.8asians.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/no-asian-drivers.jpg

[vinny.dtw]

I think he is racist...
http://www.8asians.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/no-asian-drivers.jpg

I don't think he knows I'm around manual cars all the time. A buddy of mine is out of town, so I'm car sitting for him. [>_<]

[dougyfresh]

I don't think he knows I'm around manual cars all the time. A buddy of mine is out of town, so I'm car sitting for him. [>_<]


He is just jealous you saw the light. That's all.

[NvrFllw]

I learned how to drive manual on a Porsche Turbo when I was 13 [up][up]

[Sales@RAI]

I learned how to drive manual on a Porsche Turbo when I was 13 [up][up]

wtf! I learned on a '63 Impala SS 409 lol

[skeeball]

I learned on one of these. It was sweeet.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/60/1986_Nissan_Pulsar_NX.JPG/800px-1986_Nissan_Pulsar_NX.JPG

[AudiA4Turbo22]

I've been driving a 2008 Subaru STi for the past week. So yes? Why?

No because I was going to say that if u haven't driven much stick in your life(I haven't had that chance much just once in a while) I was going to recommend a stock clutch for a while so you don't take the chance of frying your new clutch.

Just looking out for your pocket book ROFL but since you do disregard my post.

And yes I am slightly jealous however I like my auto so I'm ok for now.

[NvrFllw]

wtf! I learned on a '63 Impala SS 409 lol

haha I worked at a my uncles carwash detailing cars. He said I had to learn at some time and why not learn on the Porsche I was detailing. Let me tell you that porsche clutch is a bitch if you are learning how to drive stick lol

[vinny.dtw]

Yea, Quality parts from DTH right here. [;)]

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6Z8R3DRztNo/S1Y40WXsrKI/AAAAAAAACUc/pxk16P0EIpg/s640/IMG_3087.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_6Z8R3DRztNo/S1Y41BTBKfI/AAAAAAAACUk/EO5zdiscl78/s640/IMG_3089.JPG

Now waiting on motor mounts/tranny mounts/ and snub mount from 034...And off it goes!

[widgget]

please document this as detailed as possible.
this might be a route for my car.
a DIY drive train swap would be sweet to have up on the forums.

mind if i ask what you paid for the donor parts (not the upgraded stuff you are also installing)?

[dougyfresh]

please document this as detailed as possible.
this might be a route for my car.
a DIY drive train swap would be sweet to have up on the forums.

mind if i ask what you paid for the donor parts (not the upgraded stuff you are also installing)?

You don't have to go to far to get it done.

To keep this cost effective you have to find a deal on a car being parted out. Vince found a really good deal on the drivetrain. I've been looking for 01E drivetrains since November and couldn't touch the price he got. That is one reason why I abandoned the 01E 6spd swap into my car and am just going to settle with my original 1.8T 5spd.

[vinny.dtw]

You don't have to go to far to get it done.

To keep this cost effective you have to find a deal on a car being parted out. Vince found a really good deal on the drivetrain. I've been looking for 01E drivetrains since November and couldn't touch the price he got. That is one reason why I abandoned the 01E 6spd swap into my car and am just going to settle with my original 1.8T 5spd.

I did get mighty lucky. It wasn't even intentional, as I was just searching for the b6 s4 alternative since it was so far. But anyways, I need to call you tommoroow, to start making arrangments. The motor mounts shouldn't be too far behind this, since I just squared it away with 034.

[dougyfresh]

I did get mighty lucky. It wasn't even intentional, as I was just searching for the b6 s4 alternative since it was so far. But anyways, I need to call you tommoroow, to start making arrangments. The motor mounts shouldn't be too far behind this, since I just squared it away with 034.

I'll give you a call tomorrow after work. I'll be heading over to see Jake for a little bit.

[Pufftrees]

Thank you for buying Dougys engine Vinny, now I can stop pretending I was ever going to have enough money to buy it and do a build [up]

[Maverick]

very cool Vince.

I was like "o sh!t" when I saw the title of this thread. I am glad you are doing a manual swap.
for power, you may follow what Jake's father did if the wallet permits. :)

btw, when are you planning to visit the area? I haven't seen Jake since late last year, I swapped wheels at his place.

[vinny.dtw]

very cool Vince.

I was like "o sh!t" when I saw the title of this thread. I am glad you are doing a manual swap.
for power, you may follow what Jake's father did if the wallet permits. :)

btw, when are you planning to visit the area? I haven't seen Jake since late last year, I swapped wheels at his place.

Nice. PM your number Max, I'll let you know when I'm there.

[SleeperAvant]

Congrats Vinny! I'll be watching closely as you update this thread!

[Sales@RAI]

You don't have to go to far to get it done.

To keep this cost effective you have to find a deal on a car being parted out. Vince found a really good deal on the drivetrain. I've been looking for 01E drivetrains since November and couldn't touch the price he got. That is one reason why I abandoned the 01E 6spd swap into my car and am just going to settle with my original 1.8T 5spd.

can't beat the price of the 01A [up]

[bmags88]

I learned how to drive manual on a Porsche Turbo when I was 13 [up][up]
My first car was a Porsche 944. Learned how to drive a manual on that too!![up][up]

[vinny.dtw]

Just a quick update.

THe car is has been at Dowerks possession. We'll see if he can hold up his end and get it back to me in a timely manner. I miss my car soo much already. [:(]

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs409.snc3/24745_10100191525992194_2334640_61669416_2986964_n .jpg

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs449.ash1/24745_10100191526082014_2334640_61669420_5100992_n .jpg

http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs449.ash1/24745_10100191526111954_2334640_61669421_1585663_n .jpg

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs429.snc3/24745_10100191526121934_2334640_61669422_5054514_n .jpg

http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs409.snc3/24745_10100191526141894_2334640_61669423_175822_n. jpg

[CyberPMG]

It's like watching a best friend move away... but you know it'll come back better!

[AudiA4Turbo22]

Isn't DoWerk in Rhode Island? If so that is one heck of a transport.

When u get it back though you will be really really happy and we'll be happy for u [:D]

[dougyfresh]

Isn't DoWerk in Rhode Island? If so that is one heck of a transport.


Yes, RI.

Not really. People ship their cars to vendors all over the country. A recent B5 S4 owner shipped his car from MD to Michigan for work.

I would ship my car somewhere else in the country if I felt it was appropriate. I drive 4hours for tuning (and leave the car there most of the time and take mass transit home).

[KPC1.8TQuat]

very cool

[Dolphin18T]

This is the next step for me. I'm very interested to see how this turns out for you. Good luck, Vinny!

[AudiA4Turbo22]

Yes, RI.

Not really. People ship their cars to vendors all over the country. A recent B5 S4 owner shipped his car from MD to Michigan for work.

I would ship my car somewhere else in the country if I felt it was appropriate. I drive 4hours for tuning (and leave the car there most of the time and take mass transit home).

I meant cost wise

[Jake39454]

Due to some historic flooding in Rhode Island, progress has been slowed by about a week... The roads to get to the shop were closed and even when I got a truck and tried to go for it, National Guard was there to turn me away... I finally got back to work yesterday. Regardless, these pictures were taken over a week ago:

Motor and transmission out:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSCN0543.jpg

Dirty bay:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSCN0545.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSCN0546.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSCN0547.jpg

After some cleaning:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSCN0626.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSCN0625.jpg

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSCN0624.jpg

Car is pretty gutted, new rear differential is installed in this picture:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSCN0553.jpg

[SleeperAvant]

Awesome.

[Dolphin18T]

Wishing that was mine... [rolleyes]

[EUROaleksey]

Wishing that was mine... [rolleyes]

no u dont, then u'd be broke hehe.. [:D]

nice progress Vinny, cant wait to see/hear/ride in it [up]

[IVRINGS]

Thanks for making me want to go clean up my engine bay! Can't wait for more pics to come soon.

[Dolphin18T]

no u dont, then u'd be broke hehe.. [:D]

Yeah, probably.

[Turbavanttro]

So vinny, is this the car you will be driving when we hook up for some turns in PA on your way back to michigan? i hope so, i really want to see it. Good luck with all of this.

Awesome project.

[vinny.dtw]

Yes that is the car you will see when I ddrive through. Look forward to seeing yours as well.

[iloveturbo]

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSCN0626.jpg


I don't know why but a song came to my head when I saw this....

"Emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness, and cleanliness is godliness, and god is empty just like me" Zero By Smashing Pumpkins

[:D]

In all seriousness, Vinny I am excited about your build. Go Go Vinny, Go Go Dowerk!

-Howard

[alpinestar180]

Due to some historic flooding in Rhode Island, progress has been slowed by about a week... The roads to get to the shop were closed and even when I got a truck and tried to go for it, National Guard was there to turn me away... I finally got back to work yesterday. Regardless, these pictures were taken over a week ago:


http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff52/crazyass713/DSCN0553.jpg

Continental Extreme Contact DWS FTW! =P .... and love the car

[vinny.dtw]

Haha, nice spot. I love them too. Very quiet, and grips decent for an all season. I use these as my winter setup, and for this past season have no complains in the snow.

[vinny.dtw]

I don't know why but a song came to my head when I saw this....

"Emptiness is loneliness, and loneliness is cleanliness, and cleanliness is godliness, and god is empty just like me" Zero By Smashing Pumpkins

[:D]

In all seriousness, Vinny I am excited about your build. Go Go Vinny, Go Go Dowerk!

-Howard

I am more excited to see your interior...hahaha.

[EBG 18T]

so whats the ETA vinny?

Jake - i left a couple messages in your google vm box. still waiting to hear back from you. or pm my your e-mail address and i can e-mail you if thats easier.

eric

[vinny.dtw]

By our schedule, it should be completed by the 22nd of April. And I'll go pick it up that weekend, or the following Monday. But I'm not sure if it will be on schedule, it all pends on Jakes ability to finish and not have any hickups.

Right now we have two hick ups. One being the manual vs automatic radiator is different, so I ordered that part for him. And Greg@dth managed to get one shipped out to me on the same day thankfully. The second hickup is the engine wiring harness. The wiring for the 01E is different to the tiptronic, as the speed sensor and the reverse light plugs aren't a direct swap. Which I made a post about to ask for some help, but doesn't seem like many people have any ideas on how to do make it work, besides buying a manual engine wiring harness...at any rate, Jake should be able to figure that out.

Then we have the spacer for the trans and engine that Tyler and Doug brought to my attention that I will have to order for him immediately. Other than that we should be home free...HOPEFULLY.

[greg@podi.ca]

^^ Hey Vinny - did Greg get you an aftermarket radiator? I wonder if he was able to send you out the one that we had mis-ordered for my setup...it was a manual radiator when I needed the auto, so he was just sitting on it. Anyway, congrats on the excitement around this, can't wait to see the results!

[vinny.dtw]

This maybe an odd request, but does anyone have a stock downpipe from a manual car laying around? I'm going to upgrade my exhaust, and I don't want to buy a new downpipe for the drive home. SO hopefully someone has one laying around they don't want, that I can either throw in some money for?

Engine wiring harness is purchased. So that is another hiccup solved.

[Audi Skate Snow]

run that shit straigiht off the testpipe... be a gangster.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

^^Vinny u should be able to just reweld the mounting points on the DP since they are the same shape.

[vinny.dtw]

^^Vinny u should be able to just reweld the mounting points on the DP since they are the same shape.

Are they? That might not be hard to do in the mean time then...Thanks for the heads up Kirk.


run that shit straigiht off the testpipe... be a gangster.

LOL I just got your IM...ahhahaha.

[AudiA4Turbo22]

I believe so, I think the two tabs that it mounts onto have to just be repositioned. The 6-speed however might be a bit different, but the 2" OEM DP is small enough to where u may have some room to bend and move it if need be. If all else fails, I'm certain DoWerk can make u a 2.5" custom DP and it shouldn't cost more than a couple hundred bucks considering its a about 1ft of pipe.

[vinny.dtw]

I believe so, I think the two tabs that it mounts onto have to just be repositioned. The 6-speed however might be a bit different, but the 2" OEM DP is small enough to where u may have some room to bend and move it if need be. If all else fails, I'm certain DoWerk can make u a 2.5" custom DP and it shouldn't cost more than a couple hundred bucks considering its a about 1ft of pipe.

Don't want to waste money on the current exhaust. Getting a 3 inch turbo back after I'm done with this shiz. I've spent wayyyy too much money out of my budget already.

[dougyfresh]

I have my stock downpipe that was cut off my APR exhaust. Goes from the stock TP/Cat flange to just after the transmission crossmember. You can have it. Its sitting in a box doing nothing but taking up space.

[vinny.dtw]

Thanks Doug, life saver.

1.8 adapter plate ordered as well. Hopefully that shit is IT.

[vinny.dtw]

All parts are collected. Final piece of the puzzle is the transition spacer for the aeb head, for the amb manifold. Count down begins! 10 days!

[CyberPMG]

Good work! Stay on top of it Vinny!

[SleeperAvant]

Any more pictures? Vinny can you do a write up of all the parts required to do this?

[vinny.dtw]

Any more pictures? Vinny can you do a write up of all the parts required to do this?

Yea, I'll do a write up of all the parts I've accumulated and edit the first post. Most of the parts are listed in the initial post, but there are a few other things that I have acquired. I'm sure Doug or I can post up the ETKA plots of the necessary parts too if needed.

[nein-reis]

Vinny, do you know for sure yet or not if the shop has the "1.8T transmission spacer" working? I have the same one and it does not line up on my block. I'm wondering if DoWerk figured out something we could not... very possible.

[vinny.dtw]

Ray shipped it out last week, so my wild guess is it should arrive this monday or tuesday. I'll try to get Jake more involved on here about this topic. From the sounds of it, theres no reason why it shouldn't fit...since others have already done this before, without the spacer (i thought), I kind of just ordered the spacer "just in case" ordeal. We'll find out.

[nein-reis]

Yeah, that is what I keep hearing... I don't get it. My trans bolted right on no problems with out any spacer but the flywheel is stuck on the bellhousing (I have a nice scar inside the bellhousing to prove it). The spacer plate Ray sent me is the exact same plate that was already on the 3.0 trans so I have two now, should of asked for a part number first I guess.

The spacer plate lines right up with the trans, Ray said it lines up with the 1.8T trans, but it does not even come close to lining up with my block. I hope I can find a solution before you run into it... or I'm dumb.

[vinny.dtw]

Did you end up taking any pictures? I thought Ray lined up the spacer to an 1.8t engine block before he shipped it to you and me? I mean what are the chances of the blocks being different (maybe between b6 and b5), but then if they were, the 01A wouldn't bolt up... for Clint and and Dave. Or, there is something else we are missing that we don't know...

I remember Doug telling me someone on here has done the same thing, I'll have to call Doug tomm and ask. Come to think of it, I think we are the only two that is/has attempt to put a 01e 3.0 trans in a 1.8t.

[nein-reis]

I'll take photos tomorrow, I was not able to make it back into the shop over the weekend. Ray told me he lined it up to a 1.8T transmission, this is where I'm confused, why would it line up with a 1.8T trans but not the block? I remember talking to Doug about someone else who has done it, but Doug was not able to contact him IIRC.

Also the plates you and I are getting are different part numbers, but supposedly the same??? You are getting 01e103551a and mine is 01e103551c ..not sure if there is a difference or not, but Ray said they were the same.

[Vinny@DTH]

I wonder why the different pn...Same price on GAP. Somebody with ETKA should look into the difference.

[Vinny@DTH]

Google'd your PN. And found some pics.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_mydcIxNR0YA/SzudC419ejI/AAAAAAAAALA/YMLHWdpsEOk/s320/fillerPlate1WM.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_mydcIxNR0YA/SzudNaQw1QI/AAAAAAAAALI/NajgtcUh_V8/s320/fillerPlateWM.jpg

[nein-reis]

Here is where I'm having problems, found this photo of one. All the green lines up on the block, red is not even close, and I can't remember yellow.

http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b113/stkshftgti/fillerPlate.jpg

I'll know more tomorrow.

[Vinny@DTH]

From the looks of it,

heres the reason why its diff...from the site i found

"The next piece that you will need is called a filler plate. It's found on the Audi 2.7 TT equipped cars. So far this has been the hardest part for me to locate due to the fact that noone knew what I was talking about and I didn't have a picture. Bullmoose did a good job of describing it to me and luckily had a p/n to. The part number for the piece he used is 01E103551C. A dealer ship looked it up for me and said it was superceded by the number 01E103551A."

[nein-reis]

Yeah I found the same site. So they should be the same I'm thinking.

[FORCE_FED_DUB]

Part number 01E103551A was superseded by part number 01E103551C.

[Vinny@DTH]

lol too funny Tyler.

I guess without the physical engine block, and seeing the orientation of it. Its impossible to figure it out. Hopefully Tyler you figure it out, or Jake will. Because this down time is killing me, and I'm on a pretty tight schedule of needing the car back.

[nein-reis]

Agreed. I miss my car a lot, and this one problem has held it up by a couple weeks now and caused a fire.

[Vinny@DTH]

Agreed. I miss my car a lot, and this one problem has held it up by a couple weeks now and caused a fire.

I'm trying to think if there are any outlying reasons that it doesn't bolt up... I think I'm going to pm bikesai, the gentleman that did a swap in his b5 to see if he ran into this problem. I can't think of any reason why it wouldn't fit, when it fits our trans, but not the block...granted the spacer/trans was made for a v6 motor.

[nein-reis]

Let me know what you find out and I'll do the same. PM'd you my number.

[SleeperAvant]

Vinny, Jake, Doug:

Would the swap have been any easier if Vinny went with the 5 speed GBT transmission instead of using a 3.0 6 speed?

[Sales@RAI]

Vinny, Jake, Doug:

Would the swap have been any easier if Vinny went with the 5 speed GBT transmission instead of using a 3.0 6 speed?

yea, he just wouldn't have to trim the bellhousing for the 240mm clutch. The 2 ways to make this easier are

1. Don't get a 240mm setup
2. Get a 5 speed setup
3. Man up and grind the bellhousing

[dougyfresh]

Vinny, Jake, Doug:

Would the swap have been any easier if Vinny went with the 5 speed GBT transmission instead of using a 3.0 6 speed?

Are you asking in regards to the bellhousing interfering with the clutch assembly? Clint answered that in the post above me.

No matter which manual transmission he went with he would still have to swap the driveshaft, rear differential, shifter linkage, pedal assembly, front half shafts, etc..

I was never worried about the bellhousing issue because I knew both Jeff and Brian successfully mated an 01E to the 1.8T block. I was not aware the 01E bellhousing did not have enough clearance (as is) for a 240mm clutch assembly. The FX700 fit fine (Brian) and the stock clutch assembly fit fine (Jeff).

Vince has the FX850. I don't think the clutch assembly is 240mm so I don't think he'll have that problem.

[SleeperAvant]

Are you asking in regards to the bellhousing interfering with the clutch assembly? Clint answered that in the post above me.

No matter which manual transmission he went with he would still have to swap the driveshaft, rear differential, shifter linkage, pedal assembly, front half shafts, etc..

I was never worried about the bellhousing issue because I knew both Jeff and Brian successfully mated an 01E to the 1.8T block. I was not aware the 01E bellhousing did not have enough clearance (as is) for a 240mm clutch assembly. The FX700 fit fine (Brian) and the stock clutch assembly fit fine (Jeff).

Vince has the FX850. I don't think the clutch assembly is 240mm so I don't think he'll have that problem.

Ah ok. Yes I was asking in regards to bellhousings.

[vinny.dtw]

Are you asking in regards to the bellhousing interfering with the clutch assembly? Clint answered that in the post above me.

No matter which manual transmission he went with he would still have to swap the driveshaft, rear differential, shifter linkage, pedal assembly, front half shafts, etc..

I was never worried about the bellhousing issue because I knew both Jeff and Brian successfully mated an 01E to the 1.8T block. I was not aware the 01E bellhousing did not have enough clearance (as is) for a 240mm clutch assembly. The FX700 fit fine (Brian) and the stock clutch assembly fit fine (Jeff).

Vince has the FX850. I don't think the clutch assembly is 240mm so I don't think he'll have that problem.

That and Brian has a FX850 now from what I read on here, which fits fine on his setup. So there isn't any reason why it shouldn't fit. I'm looking forward to an update with Jake. I called him thurs and fri, and he never got back to me. So he must be chugging along on the car.

[dougyfresh]

That and Brian has a FX850 now from what I read on here, which fits fine on his setup. So there isn't any reason why it shouldn't fit. I'm looking forward to an update with Jake. I called him thurs and fri, and he never got back to me. So he must be chugging along on the car.

Brian is also running a custom flywheel and bellhousing adapter for his VR6. His set-up can't be compared beyond what he ran with the 1.8T combo.

[vinny.dtw]

Good to know, thanks Doug. Call me back when you get a chance.

[misterjj2u]

Can you guys help me out with my swap? I picked up the 6 speed that Clint posted (from a 2.7TT) and found a 4.11 rear diff online. I called up Shokan for the remaining parts but they want so damn much for the rest (i.e. B6 3.0 6 speed: front & rear axles, rear crossmember, clutch master cylinder, driveshaft).

Do any of you have any hook ups to help me with the rest?

Many thanks.

-JJ

[vinny.dtw]

Can you guys help me out with my swap? I picked up the 6 speed that Clint posted (from a 2.7TT) and found a 4.11 rear diff online. I called up Shokan for the remaining parts but they want so damn much for the rest (i.e. B6 3.0 6 speed: front & rear axles, rear crossmember, clutch master cylinder, driveshaft).

Do any of you have any hook ups to help me with the rest?

Many thanks.

-JJ

How much did they want? I just hawked ebay and junkyards constantly....

[misterjj2u]

I got the rear diff via ebay for $150 (to my door)--shokan wanted $385. Axles are something like $235 EACH!!! Craziness.

It's hard to find the exact axles since it's so specific. That's one of my biggest worries. Oh, and I just hit up Sami to see if he still had the driveshaft.

If you have any search suggestions for the axles (or part numbers), I'd appreciate it.

-JJ

[vinny.dtw]

JJ, send me a email at ecniv05@g m a i l dot com

[misterjj2u]

email sent! thanks, buddy.

[vinny.dtw]

Ok...we'll take this to email/gchat.

[nein-reis]

I'm so glad these headaches seem to be over for us. Ugh.

[vinny.dtw]

Update: Birdie told me it should be done by next weds! Wish me luck!

[SleeperAvant]

Awesome Vinny!

[nein-reis]

WooHoo!!!!!

[Dolphin18T]

Update: Birdie told me it should be done by next weds! Wish me luck!

So....?

[vinny.dtw]

Good chance it should be done! And I will fly out Saturday morning with Doug to pick the car up! Woot!

I wondered if anyone had a genuine copy of vag com that can perhaps help me recode my ecu from a tiptronic to manual car around Dowerk RI/CT/NJ area?!

[vintagespin]

Does Doug not?

[dougyfresh]

Does Doug not?

Not a genuine Ross/Tech cable. This is an excuse for me to get one.

[Dolphin18T]

So you know that your ECU will work after you recode? I'm looking around for parts right now. I'm thinking about going with a 5-speed from a 2.8 B5 and rear diff from a 5-speed 3.0 B6.

[FORCE_FED_DUB]

So you know that your ECU will work after you recode? I'm looking around for parts right now. I'm thinking about going with a 5-speed from a 2.8 B5 and rear diff from a 5-speed 3.0 B6.

There is no 5 speed 3.0 B6, only 6 speed. Also, IIRC the 3.0 uses a 4.11 rear end and the 2.8 is 3.89 just like the B6 1.8T.

[Dolphin18T]

There is no 5 speed 3.0 B6

Yes there is, Tiptronic 5-speed. The diff. code is ETS and it has a 3.89 ratio.

Also, the Tiptronic B6 1.8t has a final drive ratio of 4.11, unlike the manual cars.

[FORCE_FED_DUB]

Yes there is, Tiptronic 5-speed. The diff. code is ETS and it has a 3.89 ratio.

Sorry, I was in MT world. I assume you've checked driveshaft compatibility?

[Dolphin18T]

Sorry, I was in MT world. I assume you've checked driveshaft compatibility?

No worries. Drive shaft, or prop shaft? I'm going to use the 2.8 front drive shafts. I'm still working on figuring out prop shaft compatibility... Anyone know anything?

[dougyfresh]

So you know that your ECU will work after you recode? I'm looking around for parts right now. I'm thinking about going with a 5-speed from a 2.8 B5 and rear diff from a 5-speed 3.0 B6.

I can sell you my 2.8 5spd if you want.

[vintagespin]

What are you doing about tuning, vinny? Same REVO GTRS tune? Do you have to make any adjustments for going 2.0?

[Dolphin18T]

I can sell you my 2.8 5spd if you want.

I found one locally, but how much do you want for it?

[FORCE_FED_DUB]

No worries. Drive shaft, or prop shaft? I'm going to use the 2.8 front drive shafts. I'm still working on figuring out prop shaft compatibility... Anyone know anything?

Are the B5 driveshafts compatible? Seems to me there is a difference in hubs and track width. I guess i was getting at the propshaft. I know the 5MT and 6MT are different, but I don't know how they differ between the 5MT and 5AT and whether the MT and AT rear differentials cause compatibility issues.

[vinny.dtw]

What are you doing about tuning, vinny? Same REVO GTRS tune? Do you have to make any adjustments for going 2.0?

Sticking to Revo for now. I have some temptations to jump to Uni, but I don't know yet. I'm curious about a back to back dyno.

[vinny.dtw]

ROAR

Not F'ing ready. Slave cylinder decided to implode, and set me back. I guess I won't be flying down this weekend. Hopefully the next. UGH. I'm so F'ing sick of waiting.

[CyberPMG]

Vinny, if it's ready next weekend, plan your return trip to stop at Carlisle, PA. Mega huge Import show featuring lots of Audis. We'll fix you up with food and drink (maybe not in that order).

[mxrz]

I have some temptations to jump to Uni

You're going to entrust perhaps the most important piece of software in your car to those French Canadians? <insert missing crazy.gif emoticon>

[vinny.dtw]

Vinny, if it's ready next weekend, plan your return trip to stop at Carlisle, PA. Mega huge Import show featuring lots of Audis. We'll fix you up with food and drink (maybe not in that order).

Eh? I'll text/call more about it.

[Dolphin18T]

Sorry to hear about the delay, Vince. The waiting game has just begun for me.

[vinny.dtw]

Update:

So apparently even after a new slave cylinder the issue is still there. According to Jake, the slave cylinder rod is too short...and a longer one is needed in order for the slave to work properly in the car...So another hold up again.

What I don't understand right now is how Tyler's setup is working perfectly fine, when we have nearly identical setups except for our clutch...Is the clutch a big enough difference? Because as far as I'm concerned the stack height between the two clutches are the same...so why would I need a modified slave rod?

This is getting redic.

[trueno429]

Sucks not having a car man I hope you get your issue resolved..i've been waiting to get my rims repaired and my cars been sitting on blocks of wood for too long..

[vinny.dtw]

I forgot to post the motor specs. Mods can you please move this to the build forum please? Thanks.

OEM AMU Block 9.3:1 Compression
Supertech Pistons
OEM AEG Crank
Scat Rod 144/20 Rods
ARP 2000 Bolts
AEB Head
Supertech Black Nitride Intake Valves
Supertech Inconel Exhaust Valves
Rosten Valve Springs

As far as I am concerned, it seems to be a pretty rock solid setup, as there are quite a few members here using similar parts. The only thing I read bad is the Supertech pistons, after the research I did. Any feedback on that would be nice.

Clutch: CM FX850, since I don't think I will stay with the GTRS long, but I figured I'd go all out in prep for future upgrades. It almost seems overkill for my current setup.

With that said, this is going to be on a GTRS elim turbo, ATP manifold, REVO, 550cc injectors, 440cc file (which I will update). Hopefully we get this slave issue resolved.

[Sales@RAI]

thats essentially my motors except I have stock intake valves and Wisecos

[Dan[FN]6262]

Vinny, if it's ready next weekend, plan your return trip to stop at Carlisle, PA. Mega huge Import show featuring lots of Audis. We'll fix you up with food and drink (maybe not in that order).

what show is this? I live ~1.5hrs from Carlisle

[Sales@RAI]

5857;5275891']what show is this? I live ~1.5hrs from Carlisle

x2

[vinny.dtw]

thats essentially my motors except I have stock intake valves and Wisecos

Good. My car better not break. [:D]. I have to call Paul about the shows.

[Sales@RAI]

Good. My car better not break. [:D]. I have to call Paul about the shows.

I tested my compression the other day - 200psi across the board. And when I bent valves it was my own fault. I have been banging off the rev limiter like crazy running ~25psi and it never gives me trouble

[nein-reis]

What is the news Vinny?
I talked to Ryan and he said there was nothing wrong with my slave cylinder or anything. It all slid together like OEM with that plate in it. I really can not think of any reason why yours would work differently. Only thing I can think of is some clutch difference that is causing your troubles.

[dougyfresh]

What is the news Vinny?
I talked to Ryan and he said there was nothing wrong with my slave cylinder or anything. It all slid together like OEM with that plate in it. I really can not think of any reason why yours would work differently. Only thing I can think of is some clutch difference that is causing your troubles.


The FX850 has the same stack height as the FX400 (standard or 240mm). I don't see a longer slave cylinder rod being needed.

[Dolphin18T]

Any news?

[O2VW1.8T]

Are the B5 driveshafts compatible? Seems to me there is a difference in hubs and track width. I guess i was getting at the propshaft. I know the 5MT and 6MT are different, but I don't know how they differ between the 5MT and 5AT and whether the MT and AT rear differentials cause compatibility issues.

If your doing 6speed you need a 6speed prop shaft from a B6 3.0 or 1.8T manualm 5MT rear diffs are 3.89 and the 5AT are 4.11's. Just check the code on the diff then check etka to see if its 4.11. All the 4.11 diff's are the same in the B6's. I just did a 2.7TT 6speed swap in my 1.8T

[SleeperAvant]

So the B6 3.0 6MT rear diff is 4.11?

[vinny.dtw]

So the B6 3.0 6MT rear diff is 4.11?

Yes. Should be interesting QM times.

[skeeball]

So the B6 3.0 6MT rear diff is 4.11?

3.0 6MT 01E (FRE) is 4.375
3.0 6MT 02X (GJV) is 3.889

1.8 6MT 02X (GJW) is 4.111
1.8 5MT 01A (FNU) is 3.889

[vinny.dtw]

3.0 6MT 01E (FRE) is 4.375
3.0 6MT 02X (GJV) is 3.889

1.8 6MT 02X (GJW) is 4.111
1.8 5MT 01A (FNU) is 3.889

4.375??? Are you sure? Here is what I have...

A4 1.8T FWD (B5) 3.778 2.176 1.429 1.091 0.865
Gear Box Codes: DHW, DVX, EHV

A4 1.8T Quattro (B5) 3.778 2.176 1.429 1.029 0.838
Final Drive: 3.89:1
Gear Box Codes: DJJ, DWR (up to 2001.5)

A4 2.8 Quattro (B5) 3.500 1.944 1.300 0.943 0.789
Final Drive: 3.89:1
Gear Box Codes: DJP, DJR, DWM

A4 1.8T FWD (B6) 3.778 2.176 1.429 1.091 0.865
Gear Box Codes: FPS, ENN, FTW, GBN, GFU, HFB

A4 1.8T Quattro (B6) 3.778 2.176 1.429 1.091 0.889
Final Drive: 3.89:1
Gearbox Codes: FPT, FNU, FTZ, GBT

A4 1.8T Quattro (B6) 3.667 2.053 1.423 1.065 0.853 0.730 (6-Spd)
Final Drive: 3.89:1
Gearbox Codes: GJW

A4 3.0 Quattro (B6) 3.500 1.889 1.320 1.034 0.857 0.730
Final Drive: 4.11:1
Gear Box Codes: FYF, GBE, GJV

A4 2.0T Quattro (B7) 3.667 2.053 1.423 1.065 0.853 0.730 (6-Spd)
Final Drive: 3.89:1
Gear Box Codes: GVD, GVE

S4 (B5) 3.50 1.889 1.231 .967 0.806 0.684
Final Drive: 4.11:1

S4 (B6) 3.667 2.05 1.462 1.133 0.919 0.778
Final Drive: 3.89:1

TDI 5 Speed (01A trans) 3.500 1.89 1.230 0.930 0.680

TDI 6 Speed 3.50 1.89 1.32 0.87 0.67 0.56

[A4 TSCHUSS]

Hey Vinny, still waiting on that shop to give your car back? How long has it been now?

[skeeball]

4.375??? Are you sure?

Straight out of Bentley.

[Elliott]

5857;5275891']what show is this? I live ~1.5hrs from Carlisle

I hope to god he isn't talking about this Carlisle "show."

http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/321517-carlisle-2010-pictures-what-you-missed.html

[SleeperAvant]

If Skeeball's info is out of Bentley then that would be correct. Vinny where are you getting your tranny info from?

[Maverick]

I am looking forward to see you Vince. lol

[vinny.dtw]

If Skeeball's info is out of Bentley then that would be correct. Vinny where are you getting your tranny info from?

I had this info saved from Jeff Lee's post over on audigeek.

[vinny.dtw]

I am looking forward to see you Vince. lol

Haha, Max. I need you to rePM me your number. I deleted all my PM's

[vinny.dtw]

Hey Vinny, still waiting on that shop to give your car back? How long has it been now?

11th or 12th week?

[Maverick]

Vince， I hope this gets done before I leave for 6 weeks.
Good Luck.......
I need to visit Jake very soon. Haven't seen him for a long time. lol
besides, I can check out your car.

[vinny.dtw]

Vince， I hope this gets done before I leave for 6 weeks.
Good Luck.......
I need to visit Jake very soon. Haven't seen him for a long time. lol
besides, I can check out your car.

LOL. Hope so. Looks like you went nuts on the dark side...haha

[Jake39454]

Hey Vinny, still waiting on that shop to give your car back? How long has it been now?

David, not sure how you meant that but it sure did come out harsh... We have been on time with every part of the build, it is not my fault we weren't presented with all the parts at the beginning of the build. The customer supplied the parts and they simply did not work or the part was not provided at all... Vinny is waiting for "that shop" to complete his build and work out all the issues that have presented themselves, and also "that shop" hasn't delayed the return of Vince's car with their own actions. Just clearing that up ;)

[Lucky736]

Pics or nothing is happening. :)

[Jake39454]

I can do even better... I'll try and remember to grab a video tomorrow, seeing as the cars been running for a while now...

[Lucky736]

More or less wrote that to give Vinny poop. :) He refuses to ask for this stuff. :)

[CyberPMG]

I hope to god he isn't talking about this Carlisle "show."

http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/321517-carlisle-2010-pictures-what-you-missed.html

No way would I go to that crap. I went to the Import and Kit Nationals. Uber cool event. 100+ Audis there including a RS2, a dozen or so UrQuattros, and from Audi of America - the new A8, TT-RS, and Sport Quattro!

http://fatrings.smugmug.com/Cars/Carlisle-2010/P1100379/879855695_cmea7-M.jpg

Pics: http://fatrings.smugmug.com/Cars/Carlisle-2010/12320039_venFU

[skeeball]

I hope to god he isn't talking about this Carlisle "show."

http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/321517-carlisle-2010-pictures-what-you-missed.html

The quality and attention to detail of those cars is amazing. And did you see the Audi with the dope sticker? Doing us all proud. [rolleyes]

[Sales@RAI]

Vinny when are you coming down? We gotta do some pullz

[vinny.dtw]

Vinny when are you coming down? We gotta do some pullz

Oh rlly? You would want to go to bed...[:D]. Jkjk, goal is to come down during a weekday now. But it all pends schedule.

[Lucky736]

Oh rlly? You would want to go to bed...[:D]. Jkjk, goal is to come down during a weekday now. But it all pends schedule.

You're the only one laughing at that, you know that right? :D We want videos! Now!

[vinny.dtw]

You're the only one laughing at that, you know that right? :D We want videos! Now!

Mike,

I'm laughing at Clint. Not about the videos.

[Lucky736]

Mike,

I'm laughing at Clint. Not about the videos.

I was referring to you being the only one laughing at your own joke. :)

The videos comment was separate. :)