Who doesn't like the B6?

[Fartsniffer]

Anyone here think that it kind of got away from the sporty compact that the B5 was and is now more a larger, sporty sedan like an A6? I don't think the B5 and B6 really have the same feel. I haven't driven a B6 so this is just an impression I have from seeing them at the dealer.

[PDRaudi]

Well,
I think the B6 is fatter, so like some guys like their girls with with a bit of meat, i like mine nice a petite, thats why i got the smaller of the two. Buttuh the b6 is pretty cool too, just not my type i guess

try. www.mckennaaudi.com, its a dealership in LA with a wide variety of B5, talk to Dan or Dave and tell them Dominic sent you

dominic

[Fartsniffer]

hunh? I have a B5 already. thanks though.

[808a41.8t]

i didnt like the b6 before, but after driving my friends on i like both for different reasons. the b5 seems a lot more sportier, but the b6 still has that sport feel with a bit more luxury

[DDQ]

I still am not a big fan of the B6. I think the lines are kind of weird, and it looks sort of boxy and awkward. Not that i wouldn't mind having one, but it hasn't grown on me yet.

Also, Audi has to stop putting black rubber/plastic on the bottom of the car. It looks lame and cheap. Just paint the damn car out of the box.

[PDRaudi]

Originally posted by DDQ
I still am not a big fan of the B6. I think the lines are kind of weird, and it looks sort of boxy and awkward. Not that i wouldn't mind having one, but it hasn't grown on me yet.

Also, Audi has to stop putting black rubber/plastic on the bottom of the car. It looks lame and cheap. Just paint the damn car out of the box.

lol

[Fartsniffer]

all of these posts have been my thoughts exactly.
how'd the A4 go from proudly having all steel exterior panels to black plastic that only looks good new but then just gets addicted to ArmorAll and fades after a year like all the rest of the new/cheap cars that have tons of now fading plastic panels like the Honda Element?

[littlewhite]

I like Avant only for B6

[jones3000]

B6's are nice. I still like my B5 better.

[OutkastSL]

i agree with blacknight, the avants are sick. i would get the b6 avant over the sedan any day. i'm thinking about upgrading to the b6/7 avant in a year or so, we'll see.

[EVIL-AUDI]

Originally posted by blackknight
I like Avant only for B6


The only way I'd ever have one.^^^

[buck]

funny this post came up. I just passed a high end car dealership and I fell in love:

Blue B6 S4 Avant.....

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

What a sexy car!

As for sedan - I'll stick with my B5. The lines are much smoother and flowing IMO. I'm not ready for the chiseled bodylines yet.

[WatchMeFlyBy]

only B6 i like is the ultra-sport...i think thats super sexy... but all the others types dont tickl me, not even the S4...

[RudeBwoi]

i agree wit WatchMeFly, the ultra-sport is ultra-sexy. The other B6's arent bad tho, done the right way they look PIMP.

[Audimarc]

What about the B7? I just saw some pics and......PEEEWWWW!!!!

[IndieRockSteve]

i like the Avant, but of course, was never a big fan of the B5 sedan either....

someone's gunna kick me, but after seeing more pics of the B7, daddie likie.

[Audimarc]

Shame on you! God, that thing is ugly!

[IndieRockSteve]

i dunno man, I think cause I love the new A6 design that the B7 grew on me. wait till you see it in person. I'm reserving final judgement for that moment too.

[greengravy]

i originally bought my b5 because i didnt like the b6 as much. now i wish i wouldnt have bought my b5. i like the b6 better. i think they look nicer when they are all done up. oh well. the b5 suits me just fine

[Fartsniffer]

Originally posted by buck
I'm not ready for the chiseled bodylines yet.

its the direction of all new cars these days and I'd say into the next five years. Chiseled or flame body panels, like the new E90 3 series. Europe kinda sets the trend then all the domestic makers follow..

[offroader1006]

it does look fatter and more luxurious. I have the lowest model A4 im pretty sure(which is still nicely equipped), but it's so light and agile, i'd rather have sportiness than luxury and nice ride.

B6 is too big for me, next car will be an 00-02 S4

[Bigblk4]

B6 looks good with a body kit, the B5 looks good stock IMO

[ColumbiaDeath]

Originally posted by Fartsniffer
Anyone here think that it kind of got away from the sporty compact that the B5 was

hate to burst your bubble...but Audi A4's aren't sport compact sedans...its a 4 door car made for your mom. None the less I do love mine.

And on the B6 note- I dig 'em.

[Fartsniffer]

uhh AWD, tiptronic, 3 point leather wrapped wheel, turbo charged engine.. sure buddy, maybe for your wacky mom, not mine. [rolleyes]

I'm pretty sure the A4 is a sport compact car.

[JMG]

I like the B6. Its a different car though. The B5 will always be a classic, but the B6 is real nice. Not too sure about the B7 though.

One thing is for certain I love the B6 S4 and I'd take that car in a heartbeat.

[jam101]

my mum drove a modified bmw in europe. I guess she was wacky. It was one of 2 or 3, 3 series sedans, in france with SMG

[94jedi]

Very nice but not my style. I just haven't warmed up to it yet. I love the Lines of the b5 A4. I've wanted one since they came out.

[drlandry00]

b5 will always be a classic. out kids will think they are old school, and the b6 b7 will be the sick car for them. I like the b6. looks ok, drives very smooth, looks good with BIG wheels and body kit to get rid of NASTY ASS black rubber.. but B5 is my baby, I am stickin with it!!

[Fartsniffer]

I would have bought an E46 3 series or a B6 if I could have afforded one but for the $$ no car beats a B5.

what else can you buy with AWD, leather (ok, leatherette) TIPTRONIC fercrissakes and european style to match.

[94jedi]

Originally posted by Fartsniffer
I would have bought an E46 3 series or a B6 if I could have afforded one but for the $$ no car beats a B5.

what else can you buy with AWD, leather (ok, leatherette) TIPTRONIC fercrissakes and european style to match.

Seriously, I bought my b5 for $4800. granted, it was a hook up type deal from my boss but the car is mint(for the most part). you just can't beat that. I was about to pay $4k + to get into another decent MK3 jetta

[sxates]

You B5 guys need to quit hatin' ;)

I kinda wonder what's up with the plastic underbody too. Maybe its better if you have a lot of snow to drive through? I dunno. But I like the USP's full paint job :)

[SoleMate]

B6 avant is a sex machine
B6 sedan is still a bit better than b5 IMO, it's just now growing on me..

[TheLuce]

I love both the B5 and B6, as you can see by the pics below I have one of each in my garage. [cool] IMHO The B5 is smooth, nicely rounded and looks better from the front. The B6 looks better from the back and has fatter wheel flares. I really want to keep both but need to convince the wife to get rid of her CRV. The interior of the B6 is much more refined than that of the B5 but the seats suck in the B6. I could go on and on about which car is better but I think both have great looks. Now B6's with out the painted lowers do look odd and the only way I would buy a B6 is either with the painted lowers or the USP. Of course I got the USP[;)]

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/1407IMG_0595-med.JPG
http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/1407IMG_0590-med.JPG

Hope I didn't mess up the pics!

[Fartsniffer]

how come ever poster thats married has to mention their wife like every other sentence? [confused]

[TheLuce]

So what's your point Buttsniffer? [rolleyes]
I thought this topic was about B6's. Everyother sentence? Anyway, I just drove the B5 tonight and agree that it feels smaller or even sportier on the road than the B6. My WIFE loves both the B5 and B6. Sorry I had to make sure I referenced my wife in a post. That's mandatory when you're a married man.[:p]

[sxates]

Well, those of us who aren't mentioning our wives aren't being counted :)

So my wife says...

[ColumbiaDeath]

Originally posted by Fartsniffer
uhh AWD, tiptronic, 3 point leather wrapped wheel, turbo charged engine.. sure buddy, maybe for your wacky mom, not mine. [rolleyes]

I'm pretty sure the A4 is a sport compact car.


with a heavy curb weight, and an anemic 150hp....it must be really mean!!! (hell factory quotes a 15.9 1/4 mile.)

[Fartsniffer]

notta bad 1/4 mile time at all stock for the 1.8T.

i didn't know they were that fast.

[ColumbiaDeath]

Originally posted by Fartsniffer
notta bad 1/4 mile time at all stock for the 1.8T.

but not quick enough to be called a sporty subcompact c'mon

[Bigblk4]

Originally posted by Fartsniffer
how come ever poster thats married has to mention their wife like every other sentence? [confused]

Did I mention my WIFE loves my B5?[:D] The USP is ultra sexy, that is what I meant by "kitted". I saw one on the showroom and MY WIFE asked me if I would trade my car in for a B6. I blinked twice and said why not both?[:)] I think the USP is ultra sexy!!!!!

[Audi 555]

b6's only look good with a bodykit and suspension. the b5 will look good no matter what, but I've seen some b6's that i actually do like

[Transverse]

I was at the lot the other day to drop off my ride for a TB...anyways..thought I'd peroooose the selection a bit and I gotta tell ya..I kept walking up to the B6 saying..man that looks hot and then getting to it and going..eh...maybe not. I guess I like them from far back, but up close they just aren't inspiring. When I got my B5 back from the shop it was parked next to a brand new B6 and I thought to myself..damn my ride is sick compared to that B6. I might be biased and all..but the B6 just doesn't do it for me. The heads and tails are huge..its all around a bigger car and I guess I don't like that. Can't wait to see the B7 in person though..they be FUGLY in pictures but there's no substitute for seeing a car in person.

-T

[eurowerks]

Bought my new B5 at the end of 2001 and the B6 for 2002 were already out. Still picked the B5 over it. I'm glad I did. There's just something about the look of the B5.

[OverSpun]

Originally posted by eurowerks
Bought my new B5 at the end of 2001 and the B6 for 2002 were already out. Still picked the B5 over it. I'm glad I did. There's just something about the look of the B5.

did the same thing. but now i have a b6.

haters. [:p] i'll upload my side by side comparison pics of my b5 vs. my b6. my b5 is modded and the b6 is stock and i STILL like my b6 ultrasport better.

[OverSpun]

http://www.bionicnonsense.com/overspun/2cars1.jpg
http://www.bionicnonsense.com/overspun/2cars3.jpg
http://www.bionicnonsense.com/overspun/2cars2.jpg

[eurowerks]

He-he. I had my girl co-worker randomly pick from the pictures and she liked the b5 on both the front and rear pic. I like the B6 too though. I'd own both if I could afford it. Nice rides man.

[JMG]

C'mon guys stop the hate. They are both hot cars.

[IndieRockSteve]

my non-existant wife prefers my B5....

[fanuvbrak]

Originally posted by Fartsniffer
how come ever poster thats married has to mention their wife like every other sentence? [confused]

because we can. we also put a "y" at the end of the word "every".

i love the b5, but would switch to a b6 if i could afford it. i may just wait until i can do a b7...they've won me over (except the back...i'm still undecided there).

my wife says hello, by the way.

[Audimarc]

Originally posted by IndieRockSteve
i dunno man, I think cause I love the new A6 design that the B7 grew on me. wait till you see it in person. I'm reserving final judgement for that moment too.

True, that would be the adult thing to do....[:D]

[Audimarc]

Originally posted by TheLuce
So what's your point Buttsniffer? [rolleyes]
I thought this topic was about B6's. Everyother sentence? Anyway, I just drove the B5 tonight and agree that it feels smaller or even sportier on the road than the B6. My WIFE loves both the B5 and B6. Sorry I had to make sure I referenced my wife in a post. That's mandatory when you're a married man.[:p]

This man knows what he's talking about; it will help you to keep 50% of what you own....[:D]

[Nor_Cal_Driver]

Originally posted by TheLuce
. . . The interior of the B6 is much more refined than that of the B5 but the seats suck in the B6. I could go on and on about which car is better but I think both have great looks. Now B6's with out the painted lowers do look odd and the only way I would buy a B6 is either with the painted lowers or the USP. Of course I got the USP[;)]

Hope I didn't mess up the pics!

What do you mean about the interior? I have a 01.5 and my Mom has a 04 and besides gauge bezels, dual climate control, added cup holders and improved window switch location I don't see much difference. Now I have only had my b5 for 2 weeks and haven't been in the B6 for a few weeks so I may be missing a few things.

[jones3000]

B5's and B6's both suck. I HATE Audis.

[offroader1006]

lol, nice jones

i would own one of every audi if i could[:D] but i got what i got, and its my favorite cause its what i got.

[Audiherre]

Originally posted by ColumbiaDeath
but not quick enough to be called a sporty subcompact c'mon

doesn't a stock integra gsr run a 15.6 1/4?


Originally posted by fanuvbrak
because we can. we also put a "y" at the end of the word "every".

my wife says hello, by the way.

not too many guys I know brag about being married.. dude must have been counting his blessing when he found a girl that liked him hahaha

[A4orce84]

I saw the initial pics of the B7, and immediately started liking the B6 more. The only good thing about the B7 is that it makes the B6 A4 look good.

--Asif

[kris_tdi]

i dont like the fact the b6 only has 4 dials
i like having the oil temp one in my b5 etc...

i also find i keep banging my leg on teh centre console of the b6

prefere my b5

[jones3000]

Here's something interesting and I think you guys will agree:

the B5 never had to "grow" on me. The moment I saw it, I knew that was my next car.

the B6 , though very nice, took some getting used to and had to "grow" on me.

the B7's will be the same way. Many will not like it at first, but eventually, it will "grow" on you.

See my point?


and BTW, the A4 line is a Sport Compact Sedan. The A6 is an actual Sedan.(dealer guy here)

[Nor_Cal_Driver]

Originally posted by kris_tdi
i dont like the fact the b6 only has 4 dials
i like having the oil temp one in my b5 etc...

i also find i keep banging my leg on teh centre console of the b6

prefere my b5

I love the oil temp guage. I never boost hard until it's off the 150 mark.

[WatchMeFlyBy]

DUDE both those pics with th eB5 and the B6 sitting next to eachother of sexy as hell... i wish i owned both models and hooked um all up and could take pics like that... Props to both of you!

[Audiherre]

i like the B7. the front end and headlights are great with the exception of the new "trapezoid" shaped grill but I'm sure I'll get used to it. that shape just doesn't look sporty to me, looks too "futuristic". but its an Audi so I guess thats the new sporty cause Audi's pretty much the epitome of sport.

What I don't like about is the cheapo looking all red taillights.. i'm sure they'll have LED's though. they better to make up for the all red blandness.

[TheLuce]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jones3000
[B]Here's something interesting and I think you guys will agree:

the B5 never had to "grow" on me. The moment I saw it, I knew that was my next car.

the B6 , though very nice, took some getting used to and had to "grow" on me.


I totally agree.

[PrequelsA4]

Originally posted by offroader1006
lol, nice jones

i would own one of every audi if i could[:D] but i got what i got, and its my favorite cause its what i got.

Thats the spirit.

[OverSpun]

trust me, if you drove and sat in a b6, you would love it. the interior is about 20X better. atleast. btw, i dont own both cars, i sold my b5, just waiting for it to be shipped.

[jones3000]

Originally posted by OverSpun
trust me, if you drove and sat in a b6, you would love it. the interior is about 20X better. atleast. btw, i dont own both cars, i sold my b5, just waiting for it to be shipped.

20X better is a bit extreme. 20X better would be if the interior is in gucci or something with DVD Nav and 5" screens in the headrests. The B6's have that "new" look. Don't confuse it with better.

[audlman]

i like it alot actually, now for the B7, that has to grow on me.

[IGRUSHKA (toy)']

same here, Avant are awesome in B6!

[t&a]

B6 A4 reminds me of A6. They are nice rides, but the sportiness of the B5 body style just isnt there. Sick car none the less though.

[snopyro]

B6 S4's suck... gas! wish I never sold the 2.8q... not.

[JMG]

Lets end it here:

B5= classic
B6= hotness
B7= new blood

[OverSpun]

Originally posted by jones3000
20X better is a bit extreme. 20X better would be if the interior is in gucci or something with DVD Nav and 5" screens in the headrests. The B6's have that "new" look. Don't confuse it with better.

um no, it is 20x better. we arent comparing ICE here... we are comparing interior quality. The b6 has real leather seats as opposed to leatherette seats. 2ndly there is dual zone climate control, POWER SEATS, better acoustics meaning the non bose b6 stereo sounds better than my bose b5 stereo, rear cup holders in the armrest, more attractive gauge cluster with the rings. Air Leather steering wheel, Air leather shift knob, silver belt trim and shifter plate surround rather than the dark "titanium" belt trim the b5 has. underseat storage drawers, a much larger glovebox, cupholders in the center console, a 6 disc in dash cd changer, *cough* 6 speed transmission *cough* i think thats enough for me to be 20x better, i dunno about you. the interior upgrade alone make the car better than the b5, the exterior has more attractive and updated lines that flow nicely even in stock form. My b5 was heavily modded, and how it sits, the body is far from stock. Stock for stock, a b5 celebration package with 17" rs4 wheels compared to my ultrasport (which would be the closest stock for stock comparison) the ultrasport wins hands down. just wait until i mod this beast to its full potential. [;)] its only a few days old.

[cloudpicker]

well i agree that the B6 has a better interior, bigger, more funtional, but as for handling, the B5 beat the B6, both straight and cornering.

[OverSpun]

Originally posted by cloudpicker
well i agree that the B6 has a better interior, bigger, more funtional, but as for handling, the B5 beat the B6, both straight and cornering.

the b5 may be lighter, but the b6 has some better suspension components that make it more solid and stable in turning. stock for stock, the b6 wins, modded suspension... im pretty sure the b6 still wins. I had coilovers on my b5 with swaybars and everything, the transition from that setup to the ultrasport b6 was pretty painless, i cant wait until i slap some stasis on here though. that'll be pure ownage.

[3 bar]

I like the B6 the B7 however with the Edsel grille is just plain ugly.

[Audimarc]

Originally posted by OverSpun
um no, it is 20x better. we arent comparing ICE here... we are comparing interior quality. The b6 has real leather seats as opposed to leatherette seats. 2ndly there is dual zone climate control, POWER SEATS, better acoustics meaning the non bose b6 stereo sounds better than my bose b5 stereo, rear cup holders in the armrest, more attractive gauge cluster with the rings. Air Leather steering wheel, Air leather shift knob, silver belt trim and shifter plate surround rather than the dark "titanium" belt trim the b5 has. underseat storage drawers, a much larger glovebox, cupholders in the center console, a 6 disc in dash cd changer, *cough* 6 speed transmission *cough* i think thats enough for me to be 20x better, i dunno about you. the interior upgrade alone make the car better than the b5, the exterior has more attractive and updated lines that flow nicely even in stock form. My b5 was heavily modded, and how it sits, the body is far from stock. Stock for stock, a b5 celebration package with 17" rs4 wheels compared to my ultrasport (which would be the closest stock for stock comparison) the ultrasport wins hands down. just wait until i mod this beast to its full potential. [;)] its only a few days old.

Dude - I have leather seats, steering and shift knob. I have wood trim, which I think is gorgeous and rich. I do agree that the dual zone control is nice but for the extra money, it ain't worth it.

[k-red]

I really could care less if my passenger has their "area" set at 72 degrees and I have mine at 68. Their lucky enough they get an ass warmer in the winter. Ha!

[jones3000]

Overspun you're comparimg your base B5 1.8T to the B6. I have all those things in my B5 now(leather, power seats, chrome rings, wood, cupholders in the center console and rear seats, etc.). and who cares about a 6 cd changer when you have an Ipod or Phatnoise? Dual Climate control is just a selling feature. How many people do you think actually benefit or use it? Bigger glove box? Who cares about that? What do you keep in there, sandwiches? And how much better quality could the leather be? Get real man. I know you just got your car, but come down off your high cloud and realize the truth. The B6 is bigger overall and has a new body and a new engine. It's just newer, not better. . . . and not by 20X.

[OverSpun]

actually.... i care about all those features. trust me. obviously its a losing battle preaching the B6s greatness in the B5 forum. And yes im comparing to my stock B5, because I'm also comparing to my stock B6. Thats how you would do it fairly. ;)

1999 Audi A4,
You either have a 2.8 or you have no idea what you are talking about with leather seats, because the B5 1.8T never came with real leather.

[jones3000]

I do have a 2.8, which is why I have those features. I won't list my credentials here, but trust me I know what I'm talking about.
You're comparing a stock B5 to a stock B6, but you missed all the other features cause you had the base 1.8T.

You may think they're "standard", but either way, you payed for it.

Fact is the B6 is a VERY NICE CAR. I like the car and I agree that some of the features may be "useful" to some. But 20X better is a little extreme.

[Pureaudi]

its allright

[Audiherre]

Originally posted by OverSpun
um no, it is 20x better. we arent comparing ICE here... we are comparing interior quality. The b6 has real leather seats as opposed to leatherette seats. 2ndly there is dual zone climate control, POWER SEATS, better acoustics meaning the non bose b6 stereo sounds better than my bose b5 stereo, rear cup holders in the armrest, more attractive gauge cluster with the rings. Air Leather steering wheel, Air leather shift knob, silver belt trim and shifter plate surround rather than the dark "titanium" belt trim the b5 has. underseat storage drawers, a much larger glovebox, cupholders in the center console, a 6 disc in dash cd changer, *cough* 6 speed transmission *cough* i think thats enough for me to be 20x better, i dunno about you. the interior upgrade alone make the car better than the b5, the exterior has more attractive and updated lines that flow nicely even in stock form. My b5 was heavily modded, and how it sits, the body is far from stock. Stock for stock, a b5 celebration package with 17" rs4 wheels compared to my ultrasport (which would be the closest stock for stock comparison) the ultrasport wins hands down. just wait until i mod this beast to its full potential. [;)] its only a few days old.

sounds like someone's justifying they're arm & a limb car payments haha [:p]

[OverSpun]

Originally posted by jones3000
I do have a 2.8, which is why I have those features. I won't list my credentials here, but trust me I know what I'm talking about.
You're comparing a stock B5 to a stock B6, but you missed all the other features cause you had the base 1.8T.

You may think they're "standard", but either way, you payed for it.

Fact is the B6 is a VERY NICE CAR. I like the car and I agree that some of the features may be "useful" to some. But 20X better is a little extreme.

no, i didnt have a base 1.8T, it was fully loaded, sorry. I didnt want a 2.8 cause they are too slow. same reason i got a 1.8T B6, because the 3.0 is weak and a few mods can make a 1.8T tear it apart.

[Audiherre]

the only difference I saw between the B5 I bought and a B6 was about 10 grand.

I pride myslef in being 100% debt free. No credit cards and no car loans.
So I wasn't interested in the B6. Nothing like living within your means I guess. Maybe by the time I'm 30 I'll be in the market for the latest Audi, not yet though cause I'll only buy a car with cash and I don't have $35K sitting around to spend on wheels.

[maxh2o]

the B5 is what brought Audi back to the limelight. Trust me, I had a B4 and seeing another audi around at the time was few and far between. I've driven both the B5 and B6 and prefer the B5's interior and smaller size. I know the B6 is supposed to have a stiffer chasis, but the handling feels bloated compaired to the B5.

BTW, I really wanted to like the B6 over the B5 because I prefered the styling of the A6.

[OverSpun]

Originally posted by Audiherre
sounds like someone's justifying they're arm & a limb car payments haha [:p]

[rolleyes] who are you? cause you have no idea what you are talking about in 99% of your posts..

[fanuvbrak]

Originally posted by OverSpun
[rolleyes] who are you? cause you have no idea what you are talking about in 99% of your posts..

you don't have to worry anymore...account terminated.

[jones3000]

Originally posted by OverSpun
no, i didnt have a base 1.8T, it was fully loaded, sorry. I didnt want a 2.8 cause they are too slow. same reason i got a 1.8T B6, because the 3.0 is weak and a few mods can make a 1.8T tear it apart.

Define "weak". The 3.0L is 225hp. That is not weak. Compared to an M3 or S4 or AMG, the B6 A4 1.8T is weak, no matter what you do to it.

Some people do not care much for engine mods. Maybe that's why their cars run better. Or they would just buy a stock fast car.

Let's just end it here. Your car is better in your opinion versus your previous A4. Done.

I look forward to seeing what you do with it though.

[OverSpun]

Originally posted by fanuvbrak
you don't have to worry anymore...account terminated.

wow, thats the best news ive heard all day. haha.

jones, dude, im not tryin to start a huge arguement with you, we have cars of the same brand still, and same model, theres no huge difference at all besides some appearances here and there and whatnot. My b5 1.8T ran perfect the whole time i owned it. not a single boost leak, no blown hoses, or anything and i could eat a 3.0 B6 alive, a 2.8 A4 wasnt even a contest. I'm not gonna heavily mod the b6, just give it a little more power. I drove the 3.0, and yes it makes decent power, and its on tap without any turbo lag, but its still a pretty gutless engine, although in stock form, i agree, the 1.8T is very weak but has a lot of potential. So, agreeing with your last statement, lets leave it at that. We both own A4s, whether or not we have the same engine or bodystyle.. they are both audis as well, no sense in argueing anymore about it. peace. [:)]

[EVIL-AUDI]

It's all over for him. OWN3D

[jones3000]

Originally posted by OverSpun
wow, thats the best news ive heard all day. haha.

jones, dude, im not tryin to start a huge arguement with you, we have cars of the same brand still, and same model, theres no huge difference at all besides some appearances here and there and whatnot. My b5 1.8T ran perfect the whole time i owned it. not a single boost leak, no blown hoses, or anything and i could eat a 3.0 B6 alive, a 2.8 A4 wasnt even a contest. I'm not gonna heavily mod the b6, just give it a little more power. I drove the 3.0, and yes it makes decent power, and its on tap without any turbo lag, but its still a pretty gutless engine, although in stock form, i agree, the 1.8T is very weak but has a lot of potential. So, agreeing with your last statement, lets leave it at that. We both own A4s, whether or not we have the same engine or bodystyle.. they are both audis as well, no sense in argueing anymore about it. peace. [:)]

well said. We are both smarter than average people. WE DRIVE AUDIS.[:D]

[Kevin]

what i want to know is which car actually Drives better?
More connected road feel? handeling? are there comparisons of b5 and b6 road course times?

[jones3000]

Originally posted by Kevin
what i want to know is which car actually Drives better?
More connected road feel? handeling? are there comparisons of b5 and b6 road course times?

HAVEN'T YOU BEEN READING THE THREAD!!????

We concluded that both are nice and it's a matter of opinion. Why don't you get off your butt and go drive both and you decide.

[Rosati]

Originally posted by Fartsniffer
uhh AWD, tiptronic, 3 point leather wrapped wheel, turbo charged engine.. sure buddy, maybe for your wacky mom, not mine. [rolleyes]

I'm pretty sure the A4 is a sport compact car.


lolol yeah my crazy mother too

The b5 is at a great price i think the b6 looks like too many cars although it is beautiful i like the more sporty b5 modded rather than the b6 cant wait to get mine......

[excursion]

B5 is a classic shape, but showing it's age. I've never been a fan of the B6 though, for it's bland looks and interior. It's not really taken off here like the B5 did for those reasons.

Hopefully Audi will produce something nice after the B6 Facelift.

[OverSpun]

Originally posted by Kevin
what i want to know is which car actually Drives better?
More connected road feel? handeling? are there comparisons of b5 and b6 road course times?

personally, i feel the b6 has a more connected solid feel to the road, i drove a B5 for 2.5 years with a variety of wheels and tires and suspension setups, and i think the b6 stock for stock has a much more solid feel to it. I believe they did some minor changes in the suspension design in the b6 which helped this, but it all comes down to personal preference. in my OPINION, i like the b6 better. others may not agree. [:)]

[piaadoll]

i'm too lazy to read the entire thread...

but i still jock b5 s4s like no other....especially in imola yellow.

sometimes i have buyers remorse..but oh wells....my little darling dolphin does just fine.

[:D]

[fanuvbrak]

Originally posted by excursion
B5 is a classic shape, but showing it's age. I've never been a fan of the B6 though, for it's bland looks and interior. It's not really taken off here like the B5 did for those reasons.

Hopefully Audi will produce something nice after the B6 Facelift.

i think the only reason it's showing it's age is because everybody copied it. honda especially.

[cloudpicker]

forgot to mention i was comparing B5 and B6 both with coilover, and the B5 is just way more responsiveand tighter than B6 the B6 looks very nice but it's just too big and heavy for corning.. more understeer on B6. weight is always enermy. BTW i have KW v-3 coilover, you may want to try that too,i think it will be a better choice if your B6 is a daily driver. and YES.. stock to stock the B6 has a better chasis and suspension, but for potential wise i don't really go along with you.

just my own opinion..and experience



Originally posted by OverSpun
the b5 may be lighter, but the b6 has some better suspension components that make it more solid and stable in turning. stock for stock, the b6 wins, modded suspension... im pretty sure the b6 still wins. I had coilovers on my b5 with swaybars and everything, the transition from that setup to the ultrasport b6 was pretty painless, i cant wait until i slap some stasis on here though. that'll be pure ownage.

[Rosati]

Originally posted by fanuvbrak
i think the only reason it's showing it's age is because everybody copied it. honda especially.


what did they copy it w/ the accord?

[excursion]

Yeah I gotta say I can't see Honda have copied the B5.

[WatchMeFlyBy]

i think he meant the civic... the civic of that time looks very similar... i can also see some similarities in the IS300 lexus for sure.

[Pureaudi]

i think the b5 looks more like a teenagers car. the b6 i do like, but it looks more like a 25+ car. and the b7's...idunno.

[jones3000]

I think we should drop this subject.

[TheLuce]

I 2nd the motion. I have both, I drive both, I love both of these cars for different reasons. Let's drop it.

[UCan'tHang]

Originally posted by Rosati
what did they copy it w/ the accord?

you think..?
everytime I see an old accord sedan I think its an A4 for like a millisecond. i think cause the taillights.

nice how honda copied BMW's new back end also.

[UCan'tHang]

what would you rather take:

a B5 2002 S4 or a B6 2005 A4 1.8T?

[NieFolgen]

I would probably take the 2002 S4 unless the 2005 1.8T were an ultrasport. . . . . .

[UCan'tHang]

how about no ultra sport. just a stock B6.

[excursion]

Originally posted by UCan'tHang
what would you rather take:

a B5 2002 S4 or a B6 2005 A4 1.8T?

The B5 S4 is a far superior car.

[Pureaudi]

yea the s4

[AudiSnawb]

I havent driven the B6 yet, I really would like to, but I think if i buy another A4... Im going to skip a generation and go right to the B7... unless I get an insane deal on the B6 when the B7s come out.........

[TheLuce]

B5 S4 in a heartbeat....

[jones3000]

drop it like it's hot.

[quattroanillos5]

I hated it when i first saw it... but the more I saw it the more i liked it.... then they came out with sexy ultrasport and i was sold on it.... it will be my next car.

[Hassmeister]

B6= Yucko. (Bulbous, Fat, Rotund, Overweight looking)
B5= "It's all about sex baby" (Looks fast standing still, gives great head)

And... if I could afford it (Heh, if wife would let me have one) I'd have a B5 RS4... ("Man falls off desk chair while sprotin' a huge woodie")

[AudiMV]

they are both nice....

[czand1]

New car next summer. Never liked the b6 untill the b7 came out. Now its lookin good. Ultrasport=Nice but with the b7 might have to make it a Volvo S40T5 especially if they come out with a R!

[NieFolgen]

Originally posted by UCan'tHang
how about no ultra sport. just a stock B6.

In that case I would definately take the B5 S4. If I were older and had kids then I would take the stock B6 just because it's a little bigger.

[Audimarc]

Agreed, the B5 is a bit small for the family.

[UCan'tHang]

yes. I am in agreeance with the above post as well.

I was "on the fence" with an '03 Passat or a 99.5 A4.
But after driving both I was sold on the older A4.
The Passat was Bulbous, Fat, Rotund, Overweight looking and a lot less car for the $$ even though it was a late model.
You get a lot more features with an A4, although it is smaller and older.
Kinda like the S4/B6 thing. S4 is much much more car but B6 is a late model.. hmm.
just depends on what floats your boat.

[NieFolgen]

I guess the only solution is to get both 'eh???

[excursion]

czand1 Nice motor, looks lovely from the front.

[xtort44]

I own a 2004 Nogaro b6 s4 and I love it. I did however not like the grille so I swapped in an ultrasport front. Although I do love the seemingly endless power possibilities of the b5! If I wanted I could have bought 2 b5s for what I've spent in total on my car. The b6 s4 is the best of all things audi has done imho. Hmm now that I think of it... A Nogaro b5 sedan and avant in the garage would be pretty sick... Check the Cars for sale classifieds soon... ;) Here is a pic... Crappy one at that but you get the idea.http://pictureposter.audiworld.com/92181/sema_05_072.jpg

[audidood]

I like my B6, but for some reason it does feel different than my 12v B5. for some reason the B5 felt a lot cozier. maybe it's just cuz the B5 was my first audi... that feeling just doesn't come with the upgrade to the B6... [:(]

[A4Rob]

Can't hotlink from audiworld

[Rosati]

.........Back from the dead.


This threads date reminded me of my ex from that time.

[Audimarc]

I still like the B5 better.....although I will admit that the B6 S4 is the bomb.

[Anthony]

Wow, back from the dead indeed! Holy crap!

[offroader1006]

yep, still rather have a phat B5, but the B6's did grow a little. especially with all the body kits and whatnot that came available.

[A4orce84]

bumping this back:

What do people think these days?

[1poynt8tee]

Still don't care for the B6. USP's are ok, but they still are Audi's bastard child (big, oafish looking) when comparing them to the B7 and B8 A4's.

[xtort44]

B6 USP sedan is my fave platform still besides the b7 rs4. It's the last of the classy euro look for Audi I feel. BAT 1.8T ultrasport quattro... Hard to beat, just add front seats. Too bad they never developed a b6 rs4 variant in either form. I do give a slight edge to the b7 s-line avant. Winner in my book and I've had 3 b5 s4, 2 b6 s4, 2 b7 a4 and rs4. Currently rolling a stage 3 casa b5 s4.

[NyteEscape]

I guess the only solution is to get both 'eh???

did that. b5 definitely feels lighter on back roads, but the b6 feels a lot more solid. enough to the point where my b5 almost feels like it flexes.

[biketsai]

My view has definitely changed for the B6. The bodystyle grew on me however the only one I would drive is the USP.

[Seerlah]

^Didn't you convert your mother? I remember the pics, and that thing was nice.

[burner799]

did that. b5 definitely feels lighter on back roads, but the b6 feels a lot more solid. enough to the point where my b5 almost feels like it flexes.

uhh I think you're doing it wrong

[NyteEscape]

uhh I think you're doing it wrong

how so?

[The*Fall*Guy]

Nope... Still dont like em... I bought my old b5 new in 98 when i was 21.. I loved that car to death til i sold it 3 yrs ago.. now im looking for another one as a project.. Im older, make more money and can afford to get a B7 or B8 if i want to... But i never will.. They went down hill and away from the ultimate sport sedan that the B5 is... Long live the B5.. 40 yrs from now it will be the B5's that command big money at Barrett Jackson[:p]

[spyder101]

B6 A4's are boxes on wheels.
B7 A4's are more aerodynamic, much like going back to the B5.
B8 A4's are just plain gross, the front bumpers suck and is almost as big an A6.
In my opinon, the B5 chassis is hands down the best. Simplified technology (at least to me), minimized "over engineering", sleek lines and best all around performance.

[Fukenfast]

Pretty sure no mom would want a car with a back seat so small. Definitely a sport compact, especially the 01'

[20A4Audi1.8t01]

My view has definitely changed for the B6. The bodystyle grew on me however the only one I would drive is the USP.

x2!

But I still dont see me owning anything but a B5! [evilsmile]

[20A4Audi1.8t01]

^Didn't you convert your mother? I remember the pics, and that thing was nice.

and yes he did [up]

[Seerlah]

Nope... Still dont like em... I bought my old b5 new in 98 when i was 21.. I loved that car to death til i sold it 3 yrs ago.. now im looking for another one as a project.. Im older, make more money and can afford to get a B7 or B8 if i want to... But i never will.. They went down hill and away from the ultimate sport sedan that the B5 is... Long live the B5.. 40 yrs from now it will be the B5's that command big money at Barrett Jackson[:p]

I was watching the auctions on Speed Channel lately and was thinking to myself what would a fully restored, rebuilt, 2.0 GT30xx with all amenities go for when it would be considered a classic. I am not sure how old the car has to be to be considered a classic, but the B5 will def be that for anyone whom is a European car enthsiest.

[redwoods4]

i like the b6 look great , i will love to own one it has that sporty appeal.

[B6bomber]

So all these people saying that they would not drive a B6 unless it was an ultrasport, what do you like so much?

Also FTR B6 > B7 > B5 IMO

[NyteEscape]

So all these people saying that they would not drive a B6 unless it was an ultrasport, what do you like so much?

Also FTR B6 > B7 > B5 IMO

im going with B6 > B5 > B8 > B7 primarily because i hate the tail end of the b8.

[Seerlah]

So all these people saying that they would not drive a B6 unless it was an ultrasport, what do you like so much?

Also FTR B6 > B7 > B5 IMO

Woooahhh, you're stepping over the line there buddy[:p]. But it is your opinion.

I myself don't see why people have such disgust for the B6. I do agree, the USP bumper makes it look so much better. But color combo and the way the owner would accessorise it would also play a major role. Wheels make a world of a difference when it comes to any car. I am rather stuck on the b5 and would def consider a B6. Why? Soon they will be the price of B5s[drive]. And a B5 may become harder and harder to find is good condition.

[TMorris]

B6 A4's are boxes on wheels.
B7 A4's are more aerodynamic, much like going back to the B5.


You know that the B6/B7 are basically the same when it comes down to it. Pretty much the same exact size. People do the B6 to B7 conversions and you cant tell the difference. It was just a facelift.

[.Mad Hatter.]

ya, the difference between the B6 and B7 are MINIMAL, both in and out especially on early model B7s.

[spyder101]

ummm... I'm not sure what you two are smoking but, the B6 and B7 chassis are like night and day, not even close to being the same. I'm looking at both right now in my shop and nothing is the same on the exterior which is what I'm talking about, not the interior. Bumpers, fenders, doors , headlights and taillights are all different.

[offroader1006]

ummm... I'm not sure what you two are smoking but, the B6 and B7 chassis are like night and day, not even close to being the same. is the same on the exterior which is what I'm talking about, not the interior. Bumpers, fenders, doors , headlights and taillights are all different.

nothing you listed is related to sharing a chassis, which they do, and are similar cars because of it.




OG thread BTW. Evil posting, noob getting banned. awesome. i miss old school AZ[:(]


this was best part of the thread though:


http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7277/loos.png

and i still feel the same way. still have my B5. people like the b6 for the same reason i dont, it's bigger and more luxurious. you can't knock em for it though, its their opinion.

[dcampana]

I personally think each platform will provide an owner with different characteristics. B5 I think is more of the sport base, B6 more crusier based, and the newer models (B7 and B8), are a mix of trying to be "eye" candy, with long rolling body lines and the interior gadgets.

I personally prefer the look and feel of the B5, but to each their own.

[JohnBanks]

I would like a b8,

[NeedingAnAudi]

I hate b6's. I skip 2002-2005 and go straight from b5's to b7's. Idk why, but the taillights and the front grill on the b6 just make me hate the body style. Guess I'm just crazy [>_<]....

[b5andm3]

B6 USP=Pure sex

[Kyle H]

I LOVE the b6 avants.

[absolutegtr]

I have owned three B5's and my one and only B6. IMHO, the regular plain-jane B5 A4 looks like a toyota camry. As a matter of fact, one day at work, the boss told me to move my "gold Toyota". I was laughing inside. Not only that, when i first bought that gold B5, all my friends though it was a toyota camry at first glance...Maybe it was the goldish color, I dunno.

B6 is far greater than B5. Both inside and out.

[keeganhartman]

I mean clearly it is all a matter of opinion, but for me I will never like the b6. The USP and S4 are nice, but the regular models just are lacking.

[terraflata]

I didn't read all the way through. But if you think the B6 is too big and far from a sporty car, the newest A4 looks like the size of an A6, if Audi didn't have the A3 I would say they lost the closest thing to the original A4's.

[qttroking]

The B6 was such a letdown style wise.

[M_souren]

Depends what combo we're talking about...
Ive driven pretty much every combo, 1.8t 5 and 6 speed and TIP, 3.0 6 speed and TIP. Maybe its the weight, maybe its the way the car drives or feels, but the 1.8t doesn't seem to make sense; its just too bulky of a car.
The v6, however, seems more proper. Its down on power from a modded 1.8t but just felt (to me) so much more....solid? (I guess is the word) A smoother engine for a smoother car. It just suites the car better, IMO.

[vinny.dtw]

There is no comparison in terms of refinement between the b5 vs b6/7/8. I'd pick a B5 for the track, simply because it can be had for cheap. But for a daily driver? No way. But then again I"m quite biased.

[spooledberries]

I have drove both. I like the B5 better because it is smaller.

[RockyMountainB5]

B6 is the fat ugly sister of the hot-bodied b5