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greene08
07-23-2008, 01:23 PM
I just finished installing my RS4 rear sway bar with new brackets last night. I must have to say that it is quite the noticeable difference even when you don't push the car! The car doesn't lean as much in the corners, the steering feels more direct and has better turning weight. All in all the $125 I have into the project was well worth the cost. Oh, and it only took me 55 minutes start to finish. I am no professional but a hobby worker at best.

Parts:
- OEM RS4 Rear Sway Bar # 8E0-511-409-AL
- OEM RS4 Rear Sway Bar Brackets # 8E0-511-439
- OEM RS4 Rear Sway Bar Bracket Bushings # 8E0-511-327B

*Audi updates its part numbers so they may be updated since the time of this guide. Please check with your Audi parts dealer if you think you have a discrepancy or PM me.*

Tools:
- Wheel Ramps
- 13mm Socket
- 15mm Socket
- Safety Glasses!

*It has come to my attention that some have had better luck with using a 16mm socket on the outside link bolts of the rear sway. They have also used 3" and 6" extensions for their sockets to get better access to some bolt locations. My assumption is that you will use whatever you deem necessary at the time. Make sure you have a complete metric socket set with you--it is always a good idea.*

Step 1: I started by backing the car up on the wheel ramps. I used ramps so that I could apply the parking brake and keep the car in gear to prevent accidents.

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/safetyfirst.JPG

Step 2: Remove the 15mm bolt (one for each side) from the stock sway bar axle link.

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/rightaxlelink.JPG

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/leftaxlelink.JPG

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/axlelinkbolt.JPG

Step 3: Remove the (2) 13mm bolts from the stock sway bar brackets (4 bolts total--2 per side).

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/stockrightbracket.JPG

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/stockleftbracket.JPG

Step 4: Remove the (2) 15mm bolts from the exhaust hangars to allow the exhaust to hang down (4 bolts--2 per side). CAUTION: Have a jack stand under the exhaust to prevent it from sagging too low--you can adjust as needed.

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/exhausthangarbracket.JPG

Step 5: Remove the old sway bar. This will take some contortion on your part and some trial and error. I eventually brought one end out from in-between the exhaust near the gas tank and was then able to slide the other end out. How I got there is hard to explain, just try to get one end as far into the wheel well as possible and you'll be in good shape. CAUTION: DO NOT break the blue plastic link in the drivers side wheel well. You'll be sorry.

Step 6: Install the new sway bar in the reverse fashion you removed the stock unit. This still takes some trail and error as it is bigger but it was twice as fast going in as the old was coming out.

Step 7: Loosely install the left and right 15mm axle link bolts. We will tighten these later.

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/rs4swayrightaxlelink.JPG

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/rs4swayleftaxlelink.JPG

Step 8: Loosely install the left and right 13mm sway bracket bolts. Make sure the brackets are properly seated over the bushings and not pinching in any place.

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/rs4swayrightbracket2.JPG

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/rs4swayleftbracket2.JPG

Step 9: Once all bolts are loosely installed and all bushings are seating properly you can go through and tighten up your bolts. There are 6 bolts in total (2-15mm and 4-13mm). These do not need to be wrenched to the point of stripping, just a good snug fit is all that is necessary. A little blue locktite is never a bad idea either, however I didn't use any.

Step 10: Install the exhaust hangar brackets with the (2) 15mm bolts per side. Before you cinch the bolts tight you may want to check the alignment of your exhaust to the rear bumper cutouts. You can adjust left/right as necessary before tightening the bolts completely.

Step 11: Re-check your work and all bolts, clean up your tools, drive the car off the ramps and you're done!

NOTE: This is the bar installed. The bar should be oriented in the shape of a "u" when installed properly. If the bar makes a "rainbow" shape when looking at the center you have it installed backwards.

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/rs4swayinstall.JPG

NOTE: The new brackets are larger than the stock brackets and fit exceptionally well. Anyone who says the stock brackets are OK with the larger bar is WRONG.

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/brackcomparison.JPG

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/bracketcomparison2.JPG

The 18mm stock sport bar and the 22mm RS4 sway bar side-by-side.

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/swaybars.JPG

What a great improvement! Now I just need a suspension to compliment this. And wheels, tires, brakes, engine upgrades, seats... yikes! [wrench]

ice cream man
07-23-2008, 02:17 PM
woah great write up.

CZA420tAvant
07-23-2008, 02:22 PM
interesting, the GB from Performance cafe says the old brackets fit fine???

greene08
07-23-2008, 03:08 PM
I bought all of the parts, including the new brackets from Performance Cafe. The GB assumed you would re-use the stock brackets. You can certainly get them on--with a lot of work. If something needs to be forced on it wasn't meant to be there.

Teddy M
07-23-2008, 03:24 PM
looks good..hope it improves alot

PerfCafe
07-23-2008, 05:10 PM
I bought all of the parts, including the new brackets from Performance Cafe. The GB assumed you would re-use the stock brackets. You can certainly get them on--with a lot of work. If something needs to be forced on it wasn't meant to be there.

nice install guide man! The brackets do fit fine ... maybe new brackets will fit easier because they are new and do not have any road/driving wear on them especially for b6 cars which some have seen higher mileage than later model cars. But the brackets for all b6/b7 cars be it a4, s4, rs4 for the rear sway bar is an identical part number.

ice cream man
07-23-2008, 06:30 PM
interesting, the GB from Performance cafe says the old brackets fit fine???

they fit with some "elbow grease" literally [wrench]

AvantNoir
07-23-2008, 07:29 PM
Very nice write up.[wrench][up]

toro
07-23-2008, 08:31 PM
great, i will follow your instruction to install mine. really clear procedure. thanks a lot of write up.

Allan T
07-23-2008, 10:53 PM
Nice write up [up]

vtracer20
07-24-2008, 05:31 AM
do the bushing need to be greased? i havn't looked at my kit yet (in europe so i dont know)

rayiish
07-24-2008, 05:59 AM
LUBRICATION/GREASE IS NEEDED! If you don't have it you get this really annoying squeaking sound which will make you want to ripe out your own eardrums.

turbo4s
07-24-2008, 06:10 AM
does this sway bar tighten up the rear enough that you can break the rear end out in a turn.

CardNation
07-24-2008, 06:21 AM
Damn it, now I have to do this!

vtracer20
07-24-2008, 06:34 AM
cant wait to put on my setup pss9's + rs4 rear sway bar.....one more month !!!!!

PolishPete
07-24-2008, 06:53 AM
What part / where are you guys lubricating? At the bolts or on the rubber bushings?

greene08
07-24-2008, 08:37 AM
nice install guide man! The brackets do fit fine ... maybe new brackets will fit easier because they are new and do not have any road/driving wear on them especially for b6 cars which some have seen higher mileage than later model cars. But the brackets for all b6/b7 cars be it a4, s4, rs4 for the rear sway bar is an identical part number.

JB -- the bracket part numbers listed above in my guide are the larger brackets you sold me that I specified. That part number is NOT the same for the stock A4 sway bracket. This is evident in that the brackets are not the same size.

Guys, you can see from the pictures that the new brackets I bought are LARGER than the stock brackets. The larger brackets fit perfectly while the smaller units would have needed excessive force to install over the RS4 bushings.

I did not grease anything. The new RS4 sway bar already came with a thin layer of grease on the bushing bumper (the permanent rubber piece on the sway bar that the bushing sits on). The bushing does not sit directly on the bar. The bracket-to-bushing interface does not need grease. I have no noises and probably because I used the proper brackets.

Point of my story... buy the larger brackets!

greene08
07-24-2008, 08:40 AM
I have not tested the car fully but I would imagine it is stiff enough to kick the rear end out in a high speed tight radius turn, yes.

greene08
07-24-2008, 08:45 AM
What part / where are you guys lubricating? At the bolts or on the rubber bushings?

I didn't need to lubricate anywhere and have no noises what-so-ever. Definitely not at the bolts. There is already a thin film of grease between the bushings and the bushing mounts (permanent rubber stops) on the sway bar.

If you don't use the smaller brackets you should be just fine.

B6QTRO
07-24-2008, 06:28 PM
Damn, I need the larger brackets[headbang] I was installing mine today [wrench] and everything was fine until it was time to get the brackets on and it was a pain in the a$$! I hope my local dealer has them in stock if not I may need to order them from JB at Perf Cafe

B6QTRO
07-24-2008, 06:33 PM
BTW the part # on the A4 bracket is 8A0-511-439

greene08
07-24-2008, 11:31 PM
Double check the number. That might be for the same size brackets you currently have... I'm not sure. The number off the brackets I used IS 8E0 as I just looked at them again.

They worked perfect.

B6QTRO
07-25-2008, 03:56 AM
Double check the number. That might be for the same size brackets you currently have... I'm not sure. The number off the brackets I used IS 8E0 as I just looked at them again.

They worked perfect.

I meant to say the 8A is the stock part # on the bracket for the 18mm bar [:D]

greene08
07-25-2008, 08:35 AM
Ah... yes... that would be true my friend!

IceMole
07-25-2008, 09:02 AM
Nice writeup +rep

B6QTRO
07-25-2008, 06:07 PM
[wrench]Picked up the brackets and it's installed, Thanks for the write up[up]

drexplode
07-25-2008, 06:49 PM
someone make this a sticky, or put in the DIY list:

http://audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105668

Great write up, I need to do this! :-)

toothysaw2
07-26-2008, 02:55 PM
just want to second the need for the brackets... or at least second that they are different parts. took my car to get sway and coils installed and the guy who did it worked for audi for many years, first thing he asked was 'did you get the brackets for the sway bar?'.
told him about how nobody can agree if they're needed or not. so, yeah... gotta find some now.

greene08
07-27-2008, 11:30 PM
YES buy the brackets, they will make your life easier.

Glad the write-up has worked for you all so far. I still have to finish my write-up of the LED tail light install.

Maybe the mods will make this thread a sticky? It is just SO good how can you resist? Hell, I need to be an administrator. I'll just make write-ups and then sticky them myself.

Scott Evil
07-28-2008, 06:55 AM
"NOTE: The new brackets are larger than the stock brackets and fit exceptionally well. Anyone who says the stock brackets are OK with the larger bar is WRONG."

Agreed. For a casual wrencher, it makes the install easier.

It may exist somewhere, but an aftermarket bracket with a grease fitting would be a nice upgrade too.

PerfCafe
07-30-2008, 11:02 AM
YES buy the brackets, they will make your life easier.

Glad the write-up has worked for you all so far. I still have to finish my write-up of the LED tail light install.

Maybe the mods will make this thread a sticky? It is just SO good how can you resist? Hell, I need to be an administrator. I'll just make write-ups and then sticky them myself.

Just check w/my dealer haha correct part number for the brackets (RS4 only) are 8A0-511-439 please update! The one listed in your post is for the b6/b7 A4 etc which is where everyone is getting confused.

B6QTRO
07-30-2008, 11:27 AM
Just check w/my dealer haha correct part number for the brackets (RS4 only) are 8A0-511-439 please update! The one listed in your post is for the b6/b7 A4 etc which is where everyone is getting confused.

JB, The 8A part # is for the A4 not the RS4 sway. I double checked my old brackets and my receipt from the RS4 brackets that i purchased at the dealer.

BTW, Thanks for the prompt shipping of my sway bar[up]

PerfCafe
07-30-2008, 11:58 AM
JB, The 8A part # is for the A4 not the RS4 sway. I double checked my old brackets and my receipt from the RS4 brackets that i purchased at the dealer.

BTW, Thanks for the prompt shipping of my sway bar[up]

Are you sure you got the right brackets then? Because my dealership (whom I just got off the phone with) told me the 8A0 is for the RS4 ... [up]

B6QTRO
07-31-2008, 05:41 PM
Are you sure you got the right brackets then? Because my dealership (whom I just got off the phone with) told me the 8A0 is for the RS4 ... [up]

Yez zir[:D]

http://www.audizine.com/gallery/data/500/medium/IMG_2065.JPG

greene08
08-01-2008, 08:30 AM
Are you sure you got the right brackets then? Because my dealership (whom I just got off the phone with) told me the 8A0 is for the RS4 ... [up]

JB, the brackets you sold me are the 8E0 brackets and they worked perfectly for the RS4. They were larger than the stock brackets as shown in the picture from my install thread.

I think the guy at your dealership is now giving you bad information!

greene08
08-01-2008, 08:33 AM
See... 8E0 are the larger brackets...

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/bracketcomparison.JPG

akordboy
08-10-2008, 08:55 AM
Great write up!! Glad I seen this before I installed mine. [:D]

Frey7190
09-19-2008, 07:34 PM
interesting, the GB from Performance cafe says the old brackets fit fine???

Someone wrote a DIY using the stock brackets but had to do some modding of them using pliers and vise grips... not really interested in messing around with them so for $22 bucks there a steal :)

vtracer20
09-21-2008, 09:18 AM
only difference between stock and rs4 bracket is your need to use force to get the stocks to fit over rs4 bushing

Doctor
09-21-2008, 01:38 PM
I will be getting my Swaybar pretty soon...Looking forward to receiving it...

What I ordered is:

-1x 8E0 511 409 AL
-2x 8E0 511 327 D

AudiWxGuy
09-21-2008, 01:39 PM
It makes such a huge difference. I love it!

Doctor
09-21-2008, 01:43 PM
^^^^Really ha...? Yeah...Tell me more...I am looking even more to receiving it...
I am thinking of putting the front one too...

AvantYeti
09-21-2008, 02:13 PM
I did get right brackets when I installed mine, they are very slightly bigger. They actually came with the RS4 bar, I guess they normally don't?

Great write up BTW...

Dale

Allan T
10-14-2008, 01:11 PM
Does some of you know the part numbers for the front Rs4 swaybar?

Allan T

Doctor
10-14-2008, 01:53 PM
See... 8E0 are the larger brackets...

http://www.thegreenblattgroup.com/misc/bracketcomparison.JPG

I wish had noticed this one before my order...
Anywayz...15days delay to put my sway on...[=(]

DOBERMAN@UA
10-15-2008, 05:53 AM
Does some of you know the part numbers for the front Rs4 swaybar?

Allan T

I just called Audi dealer, he told me that for 05+ B7 front sway bar are the same for A4, S4 and RS4

Scott Evil
10-15-2008, 07:48 AM
You do not want a bigger front anti sway-bar.

Scott Evil
10-15-2008, 07:52 AM
parts list...
1 x B7 RS4 22mm rear stabilizer bar 8E0-511-409-AM or 8E0-511-409-AL (which ever one is the newer part number)
2 x Rubber bushings for bar - 8E0-511-327-B
2 x Clips for bar - 8E0-511-439
4 x Bolts for rear stabilizer bar - N-101-277-06

DOBERMAN@UA
10-15-2008, 07:55 AM
You do not want a bigger front anti sway-bar.

Bigger is not always better!

casuso
10-15-2008, 09:31 AM
Bigger is not always better!

That is what I say to my girlfriend but she does not agree![>_<]

Allan T
10-15-2008, 11:57 AM
parts list...
1 x B7 RS4 22mm rear stabilizer car 8E0-511-409-AM or 8E0-511-409-AL (which ever one is the newer part number)
2 x Rubber bushings for bar - 8E0-511-327-B
2 x Clips for bar - 8E0-511-439
4 x Bolts for rear stabilizer bar - N-101-277-06

Thanks for the part numbers [up]

Allan T
10-15-2008, 11:58 AM
That is what I say to my girlfriend but she does not agree![>_<]

Lol [:D]

Allan T
10-15-2008, 12:01 PM
You do not want a bigger front anti sway-bar.


I was just wondering if i just put a rear swaybar on my quattro a4, would i then ruin the setup of the car completely?

Scott Evil
10-15-2008, 12:37 PM
You will change the "setup." The result of a larger rear anti-swaybar is more oversteer (or if you prefer less understeer and more neutral). As the A4 is front heavy, understeer is normal for the factory suspension. Adding a larger front anti-swaybar will increase understeer.

The RS4 anti-swaybar upgrade is a cheap, direct bolt-on (with the parts as listed above) that improves the driving experience by making the car more neutral. Some drivers prefer that.

Allan T
10-15-2008, 01:10 PM
You will change the "setup." The result of a larger rear anti-swaybar is more oversteer (or if you prefer less understeer and more neutral). As the A4 is front heavy, understeer is normal for the factory suspension. Adding a larger front anti-swaybar will increase understeer.

The RS4 anti-swaybar upgrade is a cheap, direct bolt-on (with the parts as listed above) that improves the driving experience by making the car more neutral. Some drivers prefer that.

Cool, thx for the info. [up]

Doctor
10-16-2008, 01:29 AM
Got what was missing...

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/MikeDoctor/db2d2739.jpg

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k4/MikeDoctor/d872be98.jpg

Scrwedtxboy31
11-03-2008, 08:19 AM
sorry if this has been addressed already.. I have been looking around everywhere and havent seen it here yet either. I have 04 1.8t B6 will OEM RS4 22mm rear fit my set up?

DOBERMAN@UA
11-03-2008, 11:58 PM
Just 2 days ago installed rear rs4 sway bar, much much better then stock... ordered front rs4 sway bar yesterday....waiting for delivery

Scott Evil
11-04-2008, 05:53 AM
Just 2 days ago installed rear rs4 sway bar, much much better then stock... ordered front rs4 sway bar yesterday....waiting for delivery

You are going to have more understeer. Its easy enough to remove if you do not like the setup, but let us know your thoughts when you have it one.

AWDTURBO
11-04-2008, 06:34 AM
where would we buy a RS4 Sway Bar

DOBERMAN@UA
11-04-2008, 11:43 AM
You are going to have more understeer. Its easy enough to remove if you do not like the setup, but let us know your thoughts when you have it one.

I was told it would be delivered in one-two weeks...I'll keep you updated[drive]

Alkemix
11-04-2008, 12:22 PM
Alright... so i've heard a lot of places to buy RS4 sways. Where is it cheapest? Dealer?? Haven't people gotten the sway bar for $100 at dealers (maybe even sub $100?). I'm just asking about the dealers just cause I heard some recent talk that the cupra lip was a $30+ part from a dealer that most people are spending a $100+ on.

Can anyone elaborate?

vtracer20
11-04-2008, 12:28 PM
there have been 5 large rs4 group buys here on the zine...

PerfCafe
11-07-2008, 07:15 PM
there have been 5 large rs4 group buys here on the zine...


Let me know if you need one mate

Mike

whitevdub
11-07-2008, 07:18 PM
^what happened to JB???

quattro.it
11-08-2008, 09:12 AM
Thanks for the great install guide and pics. This is one mod I have been wanting to do.

Turn10
11-08-2008, 04:59 PM
I have read through this entire article and still do not understand the gains from installing the sway bar. Any explanation would be appreciated.

DOBERMAN@UA
11-09-2008, 06:03 AM
I have read through this entire article and still do not understand the gains from installing the sway bar. Any explanation would be appreciated.

In my case I have standart suspension, and I hate it, with rear sway bar handling much better

David2739
11-09-2008, 07:35 AM
I have a B7 A4 Avant 2.0T S-line. Does the rear RS4 sway bar makes a difference to get rid of the understeer?

Why is it that if you only change the rear sway bar you lose the understeer? I was thinking that once you change the stiffness and amount of roll at the rear you'll get more grip at the rear and not at the front...

Can sombody explain this?

excelT4
11-09-2008, 09:08 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-roll_bar

Turn10
11-09-2008, 12:01 PM
Ill think about buying one...

bblume
11-11-2008, 01:17 PM
I will think about getting one

Don't think just do it!
Impulse spending rules![up]

NothingBUTasian
11-11-2008, 01:41 PM
I installed mine this weekend. Interesting enough, I needed a 16mm instead of the 15. everything else was the same. Also, I bought both front and rear RS4 sways and my front sway is the same size as the one that I bought but the rear was a bit larger. I have the sport suspension and I know that the sway bar is a lil bigger then standard. Is it correct to say that the sport suspension front sway bar is the same size as the RS4 OEM front sway? Either that or I got jipped!....grrrr...what's the diameter of the RS4 Front swaybar?

Thanks in advance

joshua

DOBERMAN@UA
11-11-2008, 09:51 PM
I installed mine this weekend. Interesting enough, I needed a 16mm instead of the 15. everything else was the same. Also, I bought both front and rear RS4 sways and my front sway is the same size as the one that I bought but the rear was a bit larger. I have the sport suspension and I know that the sway bar is a lil bigger then standard. Is it correct to say that the sport suspension front sway bar is the same size as the RS4 OEM front sway? Either that or I got jipped!....grrrr...what's the diameter of the RS4 Front swaybar?

Thanks in advance

joshua

Stock, sport, sline or rs4 front sway bars they have the same diameter(29 mm), but the do have different catalog numbers. So it could be done from diffrent materials and rs4 sway bar would be much stiffer then others. My rs4 front sway bar will arive in a week(I hope), I'll give you the feedback

NothingBUTasian
11-12-2008, 06:37 AM
Stock, sport, sline or rs4 front sway bars they have the same diameter(29 mm), but the do have different catalog numbers. So it could be done from diffrent materials and rs4 sway bar would be much stiffer then others. My rs4 front sway bar will arive in a week(I hope), I'll give you the feedback

wow...I did not know that...hmm..perhaps I'll put it on anyways and see how it fairs...

NorcalPB
12-09-2008, 10:17 AM
I read somewhere that the torque for the brackets is 25nm and the outside bolts are 45nm. Can anyone confirm this? My friend said the torque specs for his 300zx tt was 70 ftlbs for the brackets! I know they're different cars but why would the tightness on his car e over 3x as much?

eskimopunk
12-09-2008, 01:10 PM
Just got mine yesterday, $130 from the dealer for the bar and bushings. and i just ordered the brackets at $17 because i didn't realize i needed them [headbang]

Scrwedtxboy31
12-10-2008, 10:26 AM
Just got mine yesterday, $130 from the dealer for the bar and bushings. and i just ordered the brackets at $17 because i didn't realize i needed them [headbang]

lmao

DOBERMAN@UA
12-13-2008, 12:51 AM
You are going to have more understeer. Its easy enough to remove if you do not like the setup, but let us know your thoughts when you have it one.

Yesterday installed RS4 front sway bar. I have stock suspension. Now I feel just a litle improvements in steering. Overall when I installed RS 4 sway bars cars feels much better

Scrwedtxboy31
12-27-2008, 11:18 AM
Let me know if you need one mate

Mike

I just got mine on xmas... everything looks good, ill do the install today if i have time! thanks perfcafe for the new digs!

Scrwedtxboy31
12-27-2008, 11:19 AM
Ill think about buying one...

Didnt notice how funny this really was... lmfao

MichiganAudiDvr
12-27-2008, 02:33 PM
I did this mod about 6 months ago. Do not try to install the RS4 bar with the old brackets. This is just stupid. Get your part numbers right and spend the few extra dollars it takes to get the job done properly.

You don't need to grease the new rubber bushings, they are ready to go and the brackets should easily slip right over them.

I don't know what is up with Perf Cafe and ECS Tuning, but they have both said on separate occasions that the old brackets will fit. Ironically, the people you talk to at these places have never actually gotten under the car to perform the swap, or they would clearly know better.

Scrwedtxboy31
12-27-2008, 03:09 PM
Yea I just went ahead and did what I knew was right and got the brackets with the bar.

q-car
12-27-2008, 03:54 PM
ECS now includes the new brackets with the sway. It's $139 plus shipping for the bar, the two new correct RS4 brackets and the rubber bushings.

JRMSLINEA4
12-27-2008, 08:06 PM
Do S-Line cars come with a bigger rear sway bar?

eMacPaul
02-02-2009, 11:22 AM
^^^ S-Line comes with 18 mm sway bar.

Also, I would like to make an addition needed for us Cabriolet owners: you will need a 10 mm XZN (aka 12 point, triple square) bit to unbolt the diagonal braces to lower the exhaust.

Great writeup!

PerfCafe
02-03-2009, 04:32 PM
ECS now includes the new brackets with the sway. It's $139 plus shipping for the bar, the two new correct RS4 brackets and the rubber bushings.

Well I am doing them for $149.00 shipped for AudiZine

bigga24
02-05-2009, 11:03 PM
Just want to say thanks for the write up! Installed this evening and can't wait to get going with it in the bends tomorrow.

gotboost
02-06-2009, 10:04 AM
Awesome guide, finally installed the bar after sitting in my room for a few months, took less than an hour. Man what a difference, car is very neutral now with less body roll.

rnp614
02-07-2009, 03:46 PM
Anyone have any issues with the new bar night lining up with all the holes after removing the old one? I'm debating buying ramps and a pair of jackstands versus just hiring someone to do this. I'm a complete car newb when it comes to working on them; I have sockets and tools, but the only thing I've done to a car is change my filter to a BMC. Tips?

wayneB7
02-07-2009, 05:05 PM
Anyone have any issues with the new bar night lining up with all the holes after removing the old one? I'm debating buying ramps and a pair of jackstands versus just hiring someone to do this. I'm a complete car newb when it comes to working on them; I have sockets and tools, but the only thing I've done to a car is change my filter to a BMC. Tips?

After installing these stabilizer bars on two previous cars, I attempted to install one on my A4 but decided I will let my trusty mechanic do it. I know it will be done right and he is on the hook if anything went/ goes wrong.

I came to that decision after noting that even though I had to drop part of the exhaust, I could not easily see the end links in the lower A-frames at each wheel, and not wanting to fit these blind, while on my back and the car on jack-stands, I said "screw it" and gave the car to the shop.

$98 later it was installed, no effort on my part and now I enjoy it even more knowing that it was done right. Tot up the cost of a pair of jackstands, a pair of ramps and factor in the fact that you say you are a complete car newb when it comes to turning a wrench ... does an hour of your mechanic's time cost that much? No matter that they say here, access is the problem -- moreso on these cars.

Oh and some say watch for the little plastic link on the driver's side ... you don't want to break that. [;)]

imola02
02-07-2009, 08:16 PM
I installed mine this afternoon and it was easier then expected. Hardest part I had was getting the old bar out. Fairly easy DIY.

PerfCafe
02-08-2009, 07:55 PM
Glad you guys are finding these easy to install

I am installing one here at the shop tonight and lowering a friends B7

nice and easy :)

Thanks for all the orders too :):)[up][wrench]

Scrwedtxboy31
02-12-2009, 08:14 AM
Anyone have any issues with the new bar night lining up with all the holes after removing the old one? I'm debating buying ramps and a pair of jackstands versus just hiring someone to do this. I'm a complete car newb when it comes to working on them; I have sockets and tools, but the only thing I've done to a car is change my filter to a BMC. Tips?

Dude get two ramp from walmart and 2 jack stands you will need them in the future either way.. DIY's are addicting and usually way cheaper.. plus thats how you learn.. this sway took a little patience but use the DIY HERE (http://www.a4mods.com/index.php?page=webcontent/pages/swaybar.html&category=2)

just make sure you have the right tools, I just did it so PM me if you have Q's maybe I can help out

Erocko
02-12-2009, 09:38 AM
Yeah, I got a pair of ramps from Checkers for $35, especially for the swaybar install.

They will definitely come in handy. Only scary part was that my front bumper was literally touching the ramps when I set up to install the front bar.

D0lphinGrey
05-15-2009, 12:35 PM
parts list...
1 x B7 RS4 22mm rear stabilizer bar 8E0-511-409-AM or 8E0-511-409-AL (which ever one is the newer part number)
2 x Rubber bushings for bar - 8E0-511-327-B
2 x Clips for bar - 8E0-511-439
4 x Bolts for rear stabilizer bar - N-101-277-06

I ordered bushings and brackets according to the part numbers in the FAQ

When I picked up the parts from my dealer, they are 8E0-511-327-D (instead of B) and N-101-277-07 (instead of 06). Not sure if they are the wrong parts?

eMacPaul
05-15-2009, 12:43 PM
If they fit over the bar easily (but not loosely or tightly), they're probably right.

D0lphinGrey
05-15-2009, 12:49 PM
^^Once the bushings are on the bar, how much gap should there be between the bottom "split" of the bushings? Or should there be no gap at all?

elwigglero
05-15-2009, 12:51 PM
^^^ they should be flush

scoobycarolan
05-15-2009, 12:58 PM
So I went to take mine off. I got to the last link and the bolt just kept spinning in place? I'm not sure how to tackle that thing. WTF should I do? I put it back on for now...

greene08
05-15-2009, 02:16 PM
Which link are you referring to? The end links or the bracket mounting points?

greene08
05-15-2009, 02:17 PM
I ordered bushings and brackets according to the part numbers in the FAQ

When I picked up the parts from my dealer, they are 8E0-511-327-D (instead of B) and N-101-277-07 (instead of 06). Not sure if they are the wrong parts?

Give it a test and follow what others have said. It should be a perfect fit with not much effort to fit over the bushings but not loosely fitting either.

You can refer to the part numbers at the beginning of this thread too for the correct numbers.

Quattro
05-15-2009, 11:45 PM
adding to FAQ, seems the person who requested this found this.

Scott Evil
05-16-2009, 05:41 AM
I ordered bushings and brackets according to the part numbers in the FAQ

When I picked up the parts from my dealer, they are 8E0-511-327-D (instead of B) and N-101-277-07 (instead of 06). Not sure if they are the wrong parts?

Audi fequently changes/upgrades parts as needed. What you have is the right stuff.

WayzataAudi
05-16-2009, 08:20 AM
Great write up! im really impressed, im gunna be using this when i install mine! [wrench]

D0lphinGrey
05-16-2009, 08:53 AM
Audi fequently changes/upgrades parts as needed. What you have is the right stuff.

Ok. Thanks for clearing that up.[up]

chaze
08-30-2009, 09:47 AM
I installed mine this weekend. Interesting enough, I needed a 16mm instead of the 15. everything else was the same. Also, I bought both front and rear RS4 sways and my front sway is the same size as the one that I bought but the rear was a bit larger. I have the sport suspension and I know that the sway bar is a lil bigger then standard. Is it correct to say that the sport suspension front sway bar is the same size as the RS4 OEM front sway? Either that or I got jipped!....grrrr...what's the diameter of the RS4 Front swaybar?

Thanks in advance

joshua
NECROBUMP UPDATE > New thread
I'm with you here man... I just upgraded to the H&R bar and found that the bolts on the ends of the bar were 16mm vice the 15mm. Which sucked because my metric set only went up to 13, so I had gone out to buy the 15 and then had to go out again for the 16.
For cross-reference I have an 08 sedan/fwd/non-sport suspension.

Anyway, like others I fought the 16mm bar for a while before getting it out but the 20mm H&R bar took it like a man and went right in. I used the second set of holes (tighter setting iirc) and it makes a huge difference. Was really the finishing touch to my Koni/Vogtland set. Finished about 9 pm last night and then proceeded to go wake up some neighbors with my tires. Oops probably took at least 500 miles of life off them.

If the OP sees this, can you edit the original to say that you might need a 16mm socket for the outside bolts? Also, 3" and 6" extensions were lifesavers as well.

thanks/cheers,

gfcipriani
09-08-2009, 03:23 PM
After installing these stabilizer bars on two previous cars, I attempted to install one on my A4 but decided I will let my trusty mechanic do it. I know it will be done right and he is on the hook if anything went/ goes wrong.

I came to that decision after noting that even though I had to drop part of the exhaust, I could not easily see the end links in the lower A-frames at each wheel, and not wanting to fit these blind, while on my back and the car on jack-stands, I said "screw it" and gave the car to the shop.

$98 later it was installed, no effort on my part and now I enjoy it even more knowing that it was done right. Tot up the cost of a pair of jackstands, a pair of ramps and factor in the fact that you say you are a complete car newb when it comes to turning a wrench ... does an hour of your mechanic's time cost that much? No matter that they say here, access is the problem -- moreso on these cars.

Oh and some say watch for the little plastic link on the driver's side ... you don't want to break that. [;)]

OK. So what is the blue plastic link on the driver's side wheel well? What is this part for and why is breaking it such a bad thing? Just wondering, not like I am out to break it off or anything. But my curiousity is piqued!

[confused]

akasch
09-08-2009, 04:41 PM
OK. So what is the blue plastic link on the driver's side wheel well? What is this part for and why is breaking it such a bad thing? Just wondering, not like I am out to break it off or anything. But my curiousity is piqued!

[confused]

I think they are talking about the auto level sensor

gfcipriani
09-09-2009, 10:27 AM
I think they are talking about the auto level sensor

?? What exactly is this and what does it do?

Gingerkid
09-09-2009, 11:49 AM
^^^^for headlight leveling system.

greene08
12-11-2009, 04:20 PM
^^^^for headlight leveling system.

Correct. Don't break it because it isn't just a simple re-installation with a new piece.

Glad the guide is working well... I was going to clean it up a bit but figured it works for most as is.

mikecurrey
04-10-2010, 09:24 AM
Does anyone have a number for them? I ordered an RS4 bar from them and have not heard back to complete the order.

MCT9891
04-11-2010, 01:17 AM
this'll come in handy when i install mine, thanks.

LennyLenihan
06-01-2010, 06:51 PM
Just did this install. . . great DIY. I would recommend just taking the exhaust down first, gives you more wiggle room if you don't have woman-hands. Took about 2 hours, but that's because I had to use the stock brackets. They work, but you definitely need vice grips to get them to fit. No squeaking or anything on the test drive though - looks and feels all good. Noticeably corrected the understeer in cornering.

beantown
06-01-2010, 09:18 PM
OP, completely forgot to thank you after installing mine last week. Great write-up!

paden501
06-02-2010, 11:07 AM
^^^ S-Line comes with 18 mm sway bar.

Also, I would like to make an addition needed for us Cabriolet owners: you will need a 10 mm XZN (aka 12 point, triple square) bit to unbolt the diagonal braces to lower the exhaust.

Great writeup!

I just wanted to clarify here before I go and spend money on this.... The RS4 sway bar WILL fit on an A4 Cabriolet right? I just need to unbolt the additional diagonal braces?

Thanks.

medo145
06-04-2010, 08:14 AM
someone should update this (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?267071-The-*NEW*-B7-FAQ-New-Member-Guide-v2-A-MUST-READ) with the right clip part number.

what's the best place to get these parts?

i found the parts on ecs for a total of $149.52 for parts plus $16.37 for shipping, grand total $165.89

is this the best price i'm going to get? thanks

RS4 Rear Sway Bar, 22mm (http://www.ecstuning.com/ES7096/ES6689/) $115.78
Sway Bar Bushing Bracket (http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/8E0511439/ES240479/) $10.72
Sway Bar Mount Bushing (http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/8E0511327B/ES7059/) $6.15

AvantinUSP
06-04-2010, 03:29 PM
DTH = $125 for all.

medo145
06-04-2010, 05:43 PM
thanks, you saved me 40$

beantown
06-04-2010, 07:41 PM
someone should update this (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?267071-The-*NEW*-B7-FAQ-New-Member-Guide-v2-A-MUST-READ) with the right clip part number.

what's the best place to get these parts?

i found the parts on ecs for a total of $149.52 for parts plus $16.37 for shipping, grand total $165.89

is this the best price i'm going to get? thanks

RS4 Rear Sway Bar, 22mm (http://www.ecstuning.com/ES7096/ES6689/) $115.78
Sway Bar Bushing Bracket (http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/8E0511439/ES240479/) $10.72
Sway Bar Mount Bushing (http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/8E0511327B/ES7059/) $6.15

Your in MA right? Set up an online account at bernardiparts.com. That's where I bought mine from and the total with all parts I think was around $120.

They ship out the same day, so it was like 2 days for ground shipping.

redlegs13m
08-14-2010, 02:15 PM
Just did this today lucky for me, my friend works at a shop so we used the lift. Very easy install after reading this it will all click once you get under the car. Great write up! Thanks[wrench][drive]

beefcake
08-15-2010, 12:04 AM
Nice, I want that.

jma57
08-15-2010, 07:04 AM
A friend and I installed the bar yesterday, easy job especially with two people, one to push and hold exhaust down, while the other changes bars.
I had gotten mine from Europa parts for about 130.00 with hardware, checked today, price up about 20.00.

rensho
08-15-2010, 11:57 AM
Even if you have to pay someone $100 to install this, the upgrade to the handling is fantastic.

B72.0T
09-23-2010, 01:47 PM
Will do this tomorrow.

palestar
09-23-2010, 03:41 PM
Will do this tomorrow.

Installing mine Sunday with H&R Sport springs.. pretty excited!

B72.0T
09-23-2010, 05:21 PM
Installing mine Sunday with H&R Sport springs.. pretty excited!

Good stuff, hoping it wont be hard at all :D Since hes done it in 55 minutes. Funny thing is I got quoted 2.5 hours of labor at Euro Auto Source in York, PA. Which is like $180 for installation. I said no thanks, so I'll be doing my own tomorrow [:)] Are you installing your springs on oem shocks? S-line or non?

beantown
09-23-2010, 05:36 PM
Good stuff, hoping it wont be hard at all :D Since hes done it in 55 minutes. Funny thing is I got quoted 2.5 hours of labor at Euro Auto Source in York, PA. Which is like $180 for installation.

Dude, they're trying to screw you.

I am lucky enough to be friends with the owners of my body shop so they let me use their lift/tools relatively for free [:D]

So when I installed the sway there (albeit with lil help from the mechanic), it took literally 30 minutes tops.

B72.0T
09-23-2010, 07:58 PM
Dude, they're trying to screw you.

I am lucky enough to be friends with the owners of my body shop so they let me use their lift/tools relatively for free [:D]

So when I installed the sway there (albeit with lil help from the mechanic), it took literally 30 minutes tops.

When he said 2.5 hrs I said "2.5 hrs to install a sway bar!?!?" I exaggerated that shit over the phone too. Not gonna get me on that one =)


And beanie was there a good amount of difference when you installed it?

beantown
09-24-2010, 05:23 AM
And beanie was there a good amount of difference when you installed it?

The difference wasn't as though the clouds parted and a beam of sunlight shined down, but I did feel significant response when driving hard/cut turns. Overall, glad I upgraded.

palestar
09-24-2010, 05:47 AM
Good stuff, hoping it wont be hard at all :D Since hes done it in 55 minutes. Funny thing is I got quoted 2.5 hours of labor at Euro Auto Source in York, PA. Which is like $180 for installation. I said no thanks, so I'll be doing my own tomorrow [:)] Are you installing your springs on oem shocks? S-line or non?

Yah the sway bar part looks pretty easy, the springs might be a bit more challenging. I'm putting the H&R's on s-line shocks, hopefully they'll hold up a while until I can get coils down the road.

jaustin
11-29-2010, 04:42 PM
So whats the current cheapest place to pickup all this stuff at?

hbtwice
11-29-2010, 05:39 PM
i'm looking at this: rear RS4 Sway bar 22mm, the kit is ~ $136

http://www.europaparts.com/audi-rs4-rear-sway-bar-kit-22mm.html


So whats the current cheapest place to pickup all this stuff at?

this may be a stupid question, but if i do not lower my car, will the rear sway bar upgrade have a drastic effect on my cornering and driving? I have no plans to lower the car with springs or coilovers anytime soon, but for < $150 to do a performance mod, i'm very intrigued.

beantown
11-29-2010, 07:23 PM
i'm looking at this: rear RS4 Sway bar 22mm, the kit is ~ $136

http://www.europaparts.com/audi-rs4-rear-sway-bar-kit-22mm.html



this may be a stupid question, but if i do not lower my car, will the rear sway bar upgrade have a drastic effect on my cornering and driving? I have no plans to lower the car with springs or coilovers anytime soon, but for < $150 to do a performance mod, i'm very intrigued.

Paired with suspension, you will feel a tighter response in handling. In your case, you probably will benefit, however the feel wont be as prevalent. That said, you should upgrade seeing as though it's only $150. [:D]

djpaw
12-10-2010, 07:47 AM
Got this done at AMS.

Big difference !!

greene08
12-14-2010, 08:58 AM
Is this install guide still working for everyone? I can make updates to my original post if anyone thinks it is necessary.

Cheers!

Mitch

greene08
12-14-2010, 08:58 AM
Is this install guide still working for everyone? I can make updates to my original post if anyone thinks it is necessary.

Cheers!

Mitch

ckrebs86
02-24-2011, 07:49 AM
Thanks so much for this write up! If anyone is currently looking for the RS4 sway they have them on ECStuning for a special price of $119.95 with free shipping.. All parts included! I just ordered mine and will be doing this DIY as soon as the parts come in! Thanks again Greene!

naiku
02-24-2011, 08:36 AM
I used this DIY a couple weeks ago, piece of cake of a job to do, I did it on my own and had no problems. Took less than an hour, did not put loktite on the bolts though, but not sure if I should go back and put it on them.

audi8844
03-11-2011, 10:45 AM
I am hopefully going to finally have time, and proper weather, to install this tomorrow! I think I read this somewhere, but didn't see it here, but is it necessary to grease any parts to prevent squeaking of the joints under load? Or is this not really a problem? If so, what would be a good grease to buy? Thanks!

b7kevin
03-11-2011, 10:49 AM
I am hopefully going to finally have time, and proper weather, to install this tomorrow! I think I read this somewhere, but didn't see it here, but is it necessary to grease any parts to prevent squeaking of the joints under load? Or is this not really a problem? If so, what would be a good grease to buy? Thanks!

I've seen many other sway bars always included with grease and periodic regreasing was required.

mr shickadance
03-11-2011, 11:02 AM
mobil 1 high temp synthetic bearing grease....hard to find locally but you can source it online its red and if you buy one sleeve of it, it will last you a lifetime....plus your kids lifetime, and maybe thier kids....

audi8844
03-11-2011, 11:08 AM
^^ Thanks! Would this work alright, or should I be getting something different?

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Lucas-Oil-14-oz-396-893-g-Red-and-Tacky-multipurpose-extreme-pressure-grease/_/N-25ap?counter=0&filterByKeyWord=grease&fromString=search&itemIdentifier=693860_0_0_

audi8844
03-11-2011, 11:13 AM
mobil 1 high temp synthetic bearing grease....hard to find locally but you can source it online its red and if you buy one sleeve of it, it will last you a lifetime....plus your kids lifetime, and maybe thier kids....

Thanks! I will definitely get some of that

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Mobil-12-5-oz-354-369-g-wheel-bearings-chassis-suspension-universal-joints-synthetic-grease/_/N-25ap?counter=2&filterByKeyWord=bearing+grease&fromString=search&itemIdentifier=1436_0_0_

Found some! Apparently it is at my local autozone.

I appreciate the help

JEENYUS
03-11-2011, 11:28 AM
although is the write-up it says that the old brackets cannot be used, i know for a fact they can be used. i did it on my car. no sure if the B6 is different from the b7, but i would imagine not. you can bend the old existing brakets to fit just fine. the fit is snug, but it works.

rjkotler
03-11-2011, 12:24 PM
I will post an add in the classifieds but I have an extra set of Audi RS4 Sway Bar Bushing Brackets.
OE Part #: 8E0511439

Makes this install super easy. $15.00 shipped anwhere in the 48 states.

PM me if you are intrested.

greene08
03-11-2011, 02:37 PM
If you use the proper brackets, the same number that I originally posted (don't re-use your existing smaller ones) it wont squeak. I put on 10k miles with no issues and no grease using the right equipment.

It is so worth it!

ColumbusAudiA4
03-24-2011, 11:19 AM
Just ordered all the parts needed for upgrade from GenuineAudiParts.com for like 130. Can't wait to install. Seems like a great improvement for such little cost. Thanks for the write up.

mauismile
03-24-2011, 05:34 PM
Waiting form mine in the mail. Can't wait to DIMyself!! Great post !!

Soul Kitchen
03-24-2011, 06:16 PM
nice write up + helpful illustrations.

Definitely going to be buying one of these when I get around to it..

Cottonmouth
05-09-2011, 05:25 AM
I did the install a few days ago and everything went pretty smooth. Only took me about 45 minutes. The best tool I had was a big piece of cardboard to lay on. Made it real easy to slide around under there.[wrench]

doughboy17
07-23-2011, 06:55 PM
I appreciate the DIY write up! I ordered the kit, including brackets, plus six new bolts from ECS Tuning, received it, and was pumped up about my mechanic installing it. He only charges $50/hr., so I expected to pay $50 - $100 max. I was disappointed that he ended up charging $150, but he is perfectionistic and very customer service oriented (the poor guy just had his orange RS4 totaled at less than 20mph when a girl in an SUV crossover pulled out in front of him on a highway and stopped in the middle of the road [she was texting]).

I have had only limited time with the car since it was installed. I was on the gas with my wife and kids in the car when I threw it into a corner. While screams of joy erupted in the back seat, my wife began yelling at me, soooo ... I really could not tell whether there was much of a difference in body roll or understeer ** maybe a little. I'll need to run it through its paces tomorrow. I cannot tell a difference in ride quality (a good thing).

I'll report back when I know more.

TehC0de
08-07-2011, 05:17 PM
Just installed mine today on a 2003 B6 1.8T quattro. Maybe the B6's are different than the B7's but I used the stock brackets, and did not have to bend/force/reshape in any fashion. They only thing I did, just to be safe, was put a light coating of lithium grease, and it slid right on no problems. So I am very curious as to where people are reporting issues with the stock brackets.

greene08
08-07-2011, 05:19 PM
Just installed mine today on a 2003 B6 1.8T quattro. Maybe the B6's are different than the B7's but I used the stock brackets, and did not have to bend/force/reshape in any fashion. They only thing I did, just to be safe, was put a light coating of lithium grease, and it slid right on no problems. So I am very curious as to wear people are reporting issues with the stock brackets.

It really depends if you had the factory sport package and yes, the years can be slightly different if memory serves well.

tchuck
10-21-2011, 01:11 AM
FWIW, I installed my bar today on my '04 A4 sport pkg. The new brackets and bushings I received with my kit from Europa Parts were larger than the brackets and bushings I removed with the old bar. The new parts fit perfectly and installed easily.

jrtrainor
02-06-2012, 10:04 PM
Just finished installing mine and the difference is much more noticeable than i was expecting. it coupled with the s-line suspension i already had is killer. definitely makes it hard to justify going to the KW V1. Thanks for the DIY took no time at all to get it installed.

TMurt
02-07-2012, 01:36 PM
Does anyone know where the whole kit is still available for a better price? All the links here have been bumped up by $50 or so. Also how does the upgrade affect ride comfort?

audi8844
02-07-2012, 01:40 PM
Just finished installing mine and the difference is much more noticeable than i was expecting. it coupled with the s-line suspension i already had is killer. definitely makes it hard to justify going to the KW V1. Thanks for the DIY took no time at all to get it installed.

But MUCH better in addition to KW V1s!

Operator
02-07-2012, 05:23 PM
Does anyone know where the whole kit is still available for a better price? All the links here have been bumped up by $50 or so. Also how does the upgrade affect ride comfort?

Best price I've seen new is ECS.

TMurt
02-07-2012, 05:35 PM
Best price I've seen new is ECS.

ya I was looking at that but it doesn't include brackets, so I guess I'd need to buy those separately. Probably way too late to hope for a group buy discount

latte
02-12-2012, 01:37 PM
ya I was looking at that but it doesn't include brackets, so I guess I'd need to buy those separately. Probably way too late to hope for a group buy discount

The ECS kit for $130 includes everything ( sway bar, bushings and brackets ). Also I didnt read through all the pages so not sure if it's different on my 2008 A4 Avant but the bolts at the end of the bars are 16mm and the bolts holding the exhaust hangers are 13mm unlike the first page instructions... But everything else was spot on. Install was super easy with this DIY. The most difficult or time consuming part was wiggling the original bar out, everything else was simple. Great mod, would recommend it to anyone.

TMurt
02-12-2012, 02:26 PM
The ECS kit for $130 includes everything ( sway bar, bushings and brackets ). Also I didnt read through all the pages so not sure if it's different on my 2008 A4 Avant but the bolts at the end of the bars are 16mm and the bolts holding the exhaust hangers are 13mm unlike the first page instructions... But everything else was spot on. Install was super easy with this DIY. The most difficult or time consuming part was wiggling the original bar out, everything else was simple. Great mod, would recommend it to anyone.

Thanks! it was hard to tell because the picture doesn't show it. Do you know another place to buy it for a similar price? I just saw ECS has an ETA arrival of April 13th

latte
02-12-2012, 04:52 PM
Yeah the only way you can tell is if you scroll down and click on what's included. No I was waiting on ECS also but got lucky and found someone who bought the kit from them but never installed it. ECS was the best price I could find prior to that.

TMurt
02-12-2012, 05:19 PM
Yeah the only way you can tell is if you scroll down and click on what's included. No I was waiting on ECS also but got lucky and found someone who bought the kit from them but never installed it. ECS was the best price I could find prior to that.

Thanks for the help! I guess I'll just keep my eyes open in the classified, considering everything else is 170+

TMurt
03-16-2012, 01:49 PM
just installed last night, took a couple hours only because a couple of the bolts had completely rusted and had to be carefully taken out. Handles very well, 90 degree curve (15mph advised) at 47mpg before any tire noise [:D]

Thanks for the write up

Operator
03-28-2012, 08:51 PM
Finished up a hour or so ago. Only one bloody knuckle and two scratched up forearms. Sadly the car is still on stands so I won't be able to go for a test drive.

jrtrainor
04-01-2012, 09:29 AM
Finished up a hour or so ago. Only one bloody knuckle and two scratched up forearms. Sadly the car is still on stands so I won't be able to go for a test drive.

Your gonna enjoy the difference. It isn't the same as putting in all new suspension as the front will still wash out but it takes quite a bit more to get it to do so with the rs4 rsb.

funky_snowman
06-09-2012, 12:50 PM
Against my better judgement, I ordered the rs4 bar and put it on my quattro 2.0t with sport suspension last night. Sorry guys, but as I feared, this bar is overkill. Coilovers that would further stiffen the rears in relation to the front (as many coils do) would only make this a worse choice. It's not the worse thing ever, and it definitely makes the car feel more entertaining, but it's not really something i would personally want to have on my car if i were driving a curvy wet highway and needed to avoid a hazard. That said, I now have the 20mm s4 bar on order and will be selling my rs4 bar (w/ bushings and brackets) if anyone wants to buy it from me.

mcpcartier
07-04-2012, 10:21 AM
Against my better judgement, I ordered the rs4 bar and put it on my quattro 2.0t with sport suspension last night. Sorry guys, but as I feared, this bar is overkill. Coilovers that would further stiffen the rears in relation to the front (as many coils do) would only make this a worse choice. It's not the worse thing ever, and it definitely makes the car feel more entertaining, but it's not really something i would personally want to have on my car if i were driving a curvy wet highway and needed to avoid a hazard. That said, I now have the 20mm s4 bar on order and will be selling my rs4 bar (w/ bushings and brackets) if anyone wants to buy it from me.

To each his own. I just swapped out my 18mm S-line for the 22mm RS4 bar and couldn't be happier. Surprised at how much of a difference it made. Much more sensitive with regards to steering, overall just feels nice and tight. Took it out on a few parkways, freeway ramps, and some surface streets and loved the feel everywhere. Not overkill for me, just what I wanted.

jrtrainor
07-04-2012, 11:54 PM
To each his own. I just swapped out my 18mm S-line for the 22mm RS4 bar and couldn't be happier. Surprised at how much of a difference it made. Much more sensitive with regards to steering, overall just feels nice and tight. Took it out on a few parkways, freeway ramps, and some surface streets and loved the feel everywhere. Not overkill for me, just what I wanted.

Ya kinda confused at how this is overkill it does just the job and with coils I can't get the car to under or oversteer. A good power slide if you drive it like a jack ass but going around a corner it's so much more planted. I can take corners at at least double the recommended speed without loss of traction. But hey maybe some body roll is just what some people need to feel comfy behind the wheel.

Sly Raskal
07-07-2012, 02:04 PM
I read somewhere that the torque for the brackets is 25nm and the outside bolts are 45nm. Can anyone confirm this? My friend said the torque specs for his 300zx tt was 70 ftlbs for the brackets! I know they're different cars but why would the tightness on his car e over 3x as much?

Has anyone been able to verify if the bolts need to be torqued down to these specs?

Sly Raskal
08-02-2012, 04:25 PM
Bump for my last post. Hoping to get an answer on this....

greene08
08-02-2012, 06:08 PM
When I originally did this install I just tightened them snug and checked them after 100 miles. Wish I could help more.


Bump for my last post. Hoping to get an answer on this....