View Full Version : new s4 bi turbo??
i HEARD that they decided against it.. whats the news on it?
VZWalex
05-13-2008, 11:47 PM
Still up in the air bro .. no official post from Audi yet ...
again, the head of powertrain of VW announced at the Vienna Motor Symposium that it would be a supercharged v6 producing ~350hp, and a detuned version producing ~290hp going in the new facelifted A6
dennisS4
05-14-2008, 07:22 AM
i wanna see another twin turbo in 2009 real bad that would be sick
Noffy
05-14-2008, 09:07 AM
again, the head of powertrain of VW announced at the Vienna Motor Symposium that it would be a supercharged v6 producing ~350hp, and a detuned version producing ~290hp going in the new facelifted A6
This is correct. it is no longer "up in the air"
wow i cant beleive they are going with a supercharger.. i hate superchargers..
miamiboy305
05-22-2008, 02:19 PM
maybe they are slapping the twins on the rs4 ????
B18b1ex
05-25-2008, 06:55 PM
I'm posting this in all 6 of the B8 S4 threads, because I' tired of the same shit!
I really don't know why there are 3-4 threads about the same sh*t, the car is going to be SC. If you don't like it oh well, buy a 335. I said this before and an audi person told me that Audi took a hit on the 2.7t because of people like us who chip the cars, then when stuff breaks we put it back to stock and we claim warranty.
BMW is going thru the same stuff with the 335, their tech are checking for the chips and even for evidence that the wiring harness was tampered with. If that is found before stuff breaks they are voiding warranties until an inspection can be do by a special BMW corporate tech, and you only get one chance at this reprieve.
Regardless people are bitching about a car nobody has driven, but has about the same power as currently available, a flat torque curve, weighs less, better weight distribution, new Quattro system and lets not forget around 20% better fuel economy.
People lets really think before we speak, and I'll say it again, many of those bitching about the car will not be buying one anyway!
GramCracker
05-28-2008, 06:56 AM
I'm posting this in all 6 of the B8 S4 threads, because I' tired of the same shit!
I really don't know why there are 3-4 threads about the same sh*t, the car is going to be SC. If you don't like it oh well, buy a 335. I said this before and an audi person told me that Audi took a hit on the 2.7t because of people like us who chip the cars, then when stuff breaks we put it back to stock and we claim warranty.
BMW is going thru the same stuff with the 335, their tech are checking for the chips and even for evidence that the wiring harness was tampered with. If that is found before stuff breaks they are voiding warranties until an inspection can be do by a special BMW corporate tech, and you only get one chance at this reprieve.
Regardless people are bitching about a car nobody has driven, but has about the same power as currently available, a flat torque curve, weighs less, better weight distribution, new Quattro system and lets not forget around 20% better fuel economy.
People lets really think before we speak, and I'll say it again, many of those bitching about the car will not be buying one anyway!
BMW is really cracking down on 335 tuning. They are blacklisting cars and taking away warranties like there's no tomorrow apparently.
just gotta be more carefull with them finding out!! thats all!
B18b1ex
05-28-2008, 10:48 AM
just gotta be more carefull with them finding out!! thats all!
How do you propose to hide the tool marks for your messing with the wiring loom? If you touch it they will be able to tell, there is no justifiable reason to be in that ECU box!. Just like Audi they will check as soon as something breaks.
How do you propose to hide the tool marks for your messing with the wiring loom? If you touch it they will be able to tell, there is no justifiable reason to be in that ECU box!. Just like Audi they will check as soon as something breaks.
yeh i know, but im sure there are smart people out there that can hide this!
GramCracker
05-28-2008, 01:20 PM
just gotta be more carefull with them finding out!! thats all!
Nope. Sorry.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141717
quattro.it
05-28-2008, 09:50 PM
It's s/c: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/technical/audi-reveals-details-on-new-supercharged-v6-tfsi/#more-5967
I'm looking forward to hearing what the final hp will be, hopefully it will be more than the current S4. B8 S4 w/350hp that has decent fuel economy? Sounds pretty cool to me.
0330QA4
05-29-2008, 05:01 AM
Can people really stop keeping all these B8 S4 threads open they all say the same shit in them.
Tiesto
05-29-2008, 05:11 AM
Can people really stop keeping all these B8 S4 threads open they all say the same shit in them.
That would make too much sense though, some idiots still think it's going to be a Twin Turbo. [rolleyes]
B18b1ex
05-29-2008, 12:16 PM
Nope. Sorry.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141717
It's funny to me because people here and on E90 gave me shit for saying that they were going to void warranties. Who's laughing now, I guess I'll be back on equal footing again no more turning up the boost. [:D][race]
quattro.it
05-30-2008, 08:06 AM
Okay, now look at this from Worldcarfans posted yesterday afternoon.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080529.011/audi-2010-engine-product-offensive-leaked
Audi S4 (B8)
"The sports version of the current generation A4 will see the 4.2-liter V8 from the B7 generation get dropped, and instead, return to its B5 roots with the all new 245kW (333hp) 3.0-liter V6 bi-turbo TFSI. Available in Avant form as well as sedan, the S4 will be available in 6-speed manual transmission or double-clutch 7-speed S-tronic."
It isn't very clear from this story exactly when it will be available in the U.S. It does say March/April '09. Supercharged or tt it sounds pretty sweet to me.
bloodstar57
05-30-2008, 08:43 AM
Magnuson Moss Warranty Act: Read it and understand. The burden of proof is on the manufacturer and/or dealer. It is against federal law to deny service or repair under warranty.
Tiesto
05-30-2008, 09:41 AM
Magnuson Moss Warranty Act: Read it and understand. The burden of proof is on the manufacturer and/or dealer. It is against federal law to deny service or repair under warranty.
Just another reason why Audi would rather not deal with tuners and go SC, now we all get hurt by this.
B18b1ex
05-30-2008, 10:08 AM
Magnuson Moss Warranty Act: Read it and understand. The burden of proof is on the manufacturer and/or dealer. It is against federal law to deny service or repair under warranty.
They don't have to prove anything, you altered their design to operate outside it's parameters, that alone is reason enough for you to lose. They will call in their engineers who will say that your car was operating above their safe threshold and thus caused damage. What will you counter with? "NO it it did not." You will not be able to fight, and in the meantime what will you drive?
Bottom line is you will not beat them.
Cargo8
05-30-2008, 11:04 AM
Okay, now look at this from Worldcarfans posted yesterday afternoon.
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080529.011/audi-2010-engine-product-offensive-leaked
Audi S4 (B8)
"The sports version of the current generation A4 will see the 4.2-liter V8 from the B7 generation get dropped, and instead, return to its B5 roots with the all new 245kW (333hp) 3.0-liter V6 bi-turbo TFSI. Available in Avant form as well as sedan, the S4 will be available in 6-speed manual transmission or double-clutch 7-speed S-tronic."
It isn't very clear from this story exactly when it will be available in the U.S. It does say March/April '09. Supercharged or tt it sounds pretty sweet to me.
The article is mistyped I think. They are referring to the correct engine (the brand new one revealed by Audi), but it is not bi-turbo, it is supercharged, although still called 3.0 TFSI.
bloodstar57
05-30-2008, 12:29 PM
They don't have to prove anything, you altered their design to operate outside it's parameters, that alone is reason enough for you to lose. They will call in their engineers who will say that your car was operating above their safe threshold and thus caused damage. What will you counter with? "NO it it did not." You will not be able to fight, and in the meantime what will you drive?
Bottom line is you will not beat them.
Went through this on my own. Start pulling up federal law and a Lawyer and they will fix your Vehicle. BTW Have you read the Act in entirety?
B18b1ex
05-30-2008, 01:57 PM
Went through this on my own. Start pulling up federal law and a Lawyer and they will fix your Vehicle. BTW Have you read the Act in entirety?
Last time I looked at it, it really was meant to cover replacing stock parts with equivalent aftermarket parts, not for the use of performance enhancing products which can affect the life span of the powertrain. If you won on something like this it is because they choose to let you. When I have the chance I look at it again.
Louis J.
05-30-2008, 04:00 PM
I really don't know why there are 3-4 threads about the same sh*t, the car is going to be SC. If you don't like it oh well, buy a 335.
Regardless people are bitching about a car nobody has driven, but has about the same power as currently available, a flat torque curve, weighs less, better weight distribution, new Quattro system and lets not forget around 20% better fuel economy.
People lets really think before we speak, and I'll say it again, many of those bitching about the car will not be buying one anyway!
Well said. Same goes for those putting down the looks of the B8 or saying that it looks like a BMW when they've never seen one in person...I have and not only is it superbly sexy but it looks nothing like a BMW. As I've said before, people are going to be eating their words...
Nope. Sorry.
http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141717
Scary sh*t...note to self: update signature!
booch
05-30-2008, 05:58 PM
this was on jalopnik too, it's all based on that excel file going around. obviously the authors are just assuming TFSI means turbo without giving it a second thought.
Vuel Egham
05-30-2008, 06:14 PM
The story from the E92 forum has been posted here many times. That guys car is a nightmare anyway, no matter how pretty it is. Either way 'You gotta pay to play' sorry if people don't like hearing it. Just man up and get the Dinan tune if you get a 335i, save yourself the headache in the long run.
And I can't wait for the official Audi announcement about the B8 S4. Let's wait and see what it ends up costing.
DeMOROlized
05-30-2008, 08:15 PM
The article is mistyped I think. They are referring to the correct engine (the brand new one revealed by Audi), but it is not bi-turbo, it is supercharged, although still called 3.0 TFSI.
It's not so much mistyped, but more a case of idiots at WCF don't know what they are talking about. The 3.0 SC engine has been announced at a Vienna symposium a few weeks ago. It's a done deal.