B7 A4 2.0T VS BMW 335i

[Goped220]

I just raced one and skooled him! LOL

[Six Speed Turbo]

I just raced one and skooled him! LOL

I know there will be others (probably several) to flame on you. So good luck with this one buddy.

[marty was here]

huh who what?


ps i really hate the 335i

[shamrok]

what? who hates other cars?

[Widget]

A 335 is like your buddies hot girlfriend. You wouldn't complain if it was yours.....

[gpxluke]

I have raced with my frd's 335 once, I can only keep up with him from a dead stop to about 60 miles/hour....but no man, u can't walk on it...FOR SURE

[EuroA4]

A 335 is like your buddies hot girlfriend. You wouldn't complain if it was yours.....



Quote of the day!! Couldn't have said it better. [up]

[coryliv]

not that this hasn't been beaten to death already but you could outrun anything with a bad driver in the other car. numbers don't lie. if you had equal drivers in both cars your car would lose. if you want to start talking upgrades then chip the 335. its a faster car and a more expensive one too. but it is fun though beating someone off the line. and i'm sure the driver in the 335 was left making excuses for why he was beat.

[s4raf88]

I dont think he was being serious the OP or when he passed the 335i on the highway he didnt know they were racing, or he has a turbo upgrade? Other than that nice win!

[greene08]

You can't compare two cars with different drivers. Period. End of story.

A 335i in stock form destroys a stock 2.0T in every performance test. Especially if both are manual or automatic.

Is your car an automatic and theirs a manual? Or vise versa?

A 335i has 300hp/300tq vs the A4s 200hp/207tq. Weight is close enough not to matter. That is the end of the story.

[a4dc89]

the 335 will smoke so many cars on the road its not even funny. when i drive my dad's 335 manual i walk all over my friend's b7 s4 automatic. now tell me that its possible a 2.0t was able to beat a 335.

did i mention that the 335 is under dynoed from the factory and is more like 350 bhp and 375 torque?
http://paultan.org/archives/2006/08/17/bmw-335i-has-350hp-instead-of-302hp/

[Six Speed Turbo]

Told you. I seen this coming.

[lokeh]

haha wouldn't matter if your car was manual and his was automatic. that thing is still damn quick as an auto. I test drove one before I bought the a4 2.0T. you can't hang with one unless you got an upgraded turbo or the driver is retarded.

[supamannn99]

racing in straight lines.. WEAK.

there's no way you could've beat him. a 335 is an S5 competitor so in essence you just raced an S5 and beat him.

[Goped220]

It all about the driver!

[lnferno]

With my B7 2.0T with K04, FMIC, APR Fuel Pump, and other supporting mods, my dyno #s were just about the same as a stock 335xi on the same dyno. I'm curious to hear more details on how you "skooled him"? Was this on a road course? Did the guy not know how to drive? [confused]

[Goped220]

It was on the interstate. I was behind him passed him. Then let him go in front and passed him. Then from a third gear pull lined up both cars and beat him by four car length.

[supamannn99]

lol four car lengths. are you sure it wasnt a 328? was it a coupe or sedan? both the sedan and coupe are lighter than the A4.

not to mention they also have two more cylinders, one more turbo than our engines do. the other driver was probably shitty, or giving you a self esteem boost. sorry to kill your thunder

[lnferno]

Are you absolutely positive this wasn't a 328 because aside from the exhaust, they look just like the 335s? I'm just not buying it unless the guy just did not know how to drive and was not in the right gear. Especially from a highway roll. The final drive ratios of those things are much better suited for highway speeds than down low, especially compared to our cars. In stock form, they trap ~104-107 MPH in the 1/4. It just doesn't add up. He must have been in his highest gear or something and didn't downshift.

[Goped220]

Yes it was a White 335i Coupe!

[Goped220]

supamannn99 how is the 91 octane in Cali I hear it’s the bomb.

[era]

lol

[vroompshert]

335i gives the e46 M3's a run for their money

meaning they will walk over our cars...unless we do some mad modding

[vroompshert]

let me reiterate... MAD modding haha

[Goped220]

Not really buddie. I ran a E46 M3 SMG and it was close, he beat me.

[vroompshert]

Quote from car & driver... question them if you don't believe me, buddy

[supamannn99]

man those things are sexy. everytime they roll by, i turn my head.

[supamannn99]

supamannn99 how is the 91 octane in Cali I hear it’s the bomb.

its expensive.

[Goped220]

Yah I know VP race gas it too!

[Goped220]

vroompshert ask Farnbacher Loles who won the 2007 Grand Am Rolex GT!

[R1NSE]

If it was only about the cars, then there would never be a reason to race. Its about the driver as well. Its the same reason they play the games in sports and just don't compare stats.

I am not totally in favor street racing but don't think anyone should be dogging you about it either. You beat him. Congrats.

[ABanT]

You don't have enough mods to beat him. What do you have? Chip, exhaust, FMIC?
He was probably just playing with you, watching you work your car like a dog while he just feathers the pedal and catches up to you.

[Goped220]

Look guy face the truth I beat him. I have some mods full exhaust, test pipe, coilovers, chip APR stage 2 software no front mount. And no big turbo yet and stock clutch.

[s4raf88]

The way I see it he passed you after you passed him then you caught up or pulled up next to him and pulled away, without him knowing it was a race? Anyways nice win again if you guys raced!

[lokeh]

haha yea seriously.

you either beat a guy that had no idea you were racing.

or

he is a terrible driver and doesn't know how to hit the gas since I would imagine that the one you saw was an automatic, since most of the stock ones are.

conclusion, this thread was exactly what I thought it was....hilarious!

[b00st]

you didn't beat him...end of story.

your mods aren't enough to take him down. this is a simple one.

even at a bad driver all he has to do is push the gas in....his car will pull back up to you.

chip, exhaust is not enough for you car to come close...especially from a roll.

[tivs31]

what would happen if say the guy in the 335 was maybe an idiot and tanked only 87 octane in his car?

wouldn't his stated hp and torque claims go considerably down?

just an idea [confused]

[camhabib]

Just read the OP post and: HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH.

Just because you were able to pull ahead of the guy does not mean 1) that you were racing or that 2) you beat him. I love how everyone on here is always like "I raced a XYZ." Did someone get out of the car and say "hey, lets race from right here to right there." No. For all you know, he could have been completely oblivious to your existence and was just on his way to work. Not to mention a 335 could probably even beat you in reverse, nevermind going the correct way.

[davis449]

Look guy face the truth I beat him. I have some mods full exhaust, test pipe, coilovers, chip APR stage 2 software no front mount. And no big turbo yet and stock clutch.

Yeah, I know what you mean man. I have pretty much the same mods you do and I just smoked a C55 AMG.[rolleyes][down]

[camhabib]

Yeah, I know what you mean man. I have pretty much the same mods you do and I just smoked a C55 AMG.[rolleyes][down]

Yes, we're sure you did. Same case as above, the chances of him actually trying to beat you vs the chance of him just f**king with your head, not too good. If "beating" someone just entails getting to some arbitrary point before the car besides you, regardless of their intent, then sh*t, my Dodge Ram 3500 turbo diesel beats my neighbors SLR every morning.

[AAAA]

my money is on that it was a 328ci

[EuroA4]

Right!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHj0zbhjLZI

[davis449]

Yes, we're sure you did. Same case as above, the chances of him actually trying to beat you vs the chance of him just f**king with your head, not too good. If "beating" someone just entails getting to some arbitrary point before the car besides you, regardless of their intent, then sh*t, my Dodge Ram 3500 turbo diesel beats my neighbors SLR every morning.

Damn, your sarcasm detector must be broken! Sorry, but you absolutely FAIL with your post![down][:D]

[camhabib]

Damn, your sarcasm detector must be broken! Sorry, but you absolutely FAIL with your post![down][:D]

Its just slightly hard to here the sarcastic tone through the computer. Must have broke when beat out that McLaren F1 the other day. My apologies tho.

[R1NSE]

Your moms called and its dinner time corn dogs and
http://nw.mit.edu/codeigniter2x/core/nathanwilson/images/why/hater_tots.jpg

you all are ruthless ...

[Noffy]

I definetly think the driver has a lot to do with the racing. But, on the interstate you dont really have to turn, or slow down, and maybe not even shift. All you have to do is push down the gas pedal. I think he was probably listening to the radio and not even paying attention. Or it was someone who didn't care or had a lot of previous speeding tickets so they could risk another. I love my B7 would take it most days ver a 335i, but the two are no where close in performance. Whats to stop me from posting a thread that said I just skooled a GT3, nothing, but i did and none of you can prove i didn't. A4 warp speed button is under the passenger side visor and is password protected for safety reasons.

[b00st]

Yes, we're sure you did. Same case as above, the chances of him actually trying to beat you vs the chance of him just f**king with your head, not too good. If "beating" someone just entails getting to some arbitrary point before the car besides you, regardless of their intent, then sh*t, my Dodge Ram 3500 turbo diesel beats my neighbors SLR every morning.


shit then i just beat about 200 cars today on the way to work. maybe even more. [evilsmile]

[SGVA4]

Told you. I seen this coming.

LOL[hail]

[davis449]

Its just slightly hard to here the sarcastic tone through the computer. Must have broke when beat out that McLaren F1 the other day. My apologies tho.

Man that's why I threw up the classic rolleyes smiley. That's the dead give away for sarcasm. Followed of course by the thumbsdown for the OP thinking he beat a car that's a full second quicker to 60 than his car could achieve if he was a professional driver, not to mention the good 90 whp more in BMW (yes, OP, you heard right, they are dyno'd STOCK at 300 to the wheels, welcome to BMW's famous underrating of their HP). It's ok though, no worries camhabib.[:D]

[supamannn99]

i once raced a bugatti veyron and i beat him by car lengths.

[supamannn99]

Man that's why I threw up the classic rolleyes smiley. That's the dead give away for sarcasm. Followed of course by the thumbsdown for the OP thinking he beat a car that's a full second quicker to 60 than his car could achieve if he was a professional driver, not to mention the good 90 whp more in BMW (yes, they are dyno'd STOCK at 300 tot he wheels, welcome to BMW's famous underrating of their HP). It's ok though, no worries.[:D]

really? they underate their HP? that's pretty cool. talk about customer satisfaction huh.

[davis449]

really? they underate their HP? that's pretty cool. talk about customer satisfaction huh.

Yeah, BMW is famous for this. They underrate their HP all the time. I've referenced this is many arguments with many people about the superiority of the G35 Sedan/Coupe to the BMW 3 Series Sedan/Coupe. There's a road test in Car and Driver or Road & Track (I can't recall which I read it in) where they tested the 260 HP G35 against the 225 HP e46 330i in a test between 2003 and 2005 and the differences were SO negligible (I mean slight) that it was more so pathetic that the Infiniti won than the BMW lost the comparison. But yeah, the current 335i is independently dynoing right around 300 HP rwhp.

[Noffy]

Yeah, BMW is famous for this. They underrate their HP all the time. I've referenced this is many arguments with many people about the superiority of the G35 Sedan/Coupe to the BMW 3 Series Sedan/Coupe. There's a road test in Car and Driver or Road & Track (I can't recall which I read it in) where they tested the 260 HP G35 against the 225 HP e46 330i in a test between 2003 and 2005 and the differences were SO negligible (I mean slight) that it was more so pathetic that the Infiniti won than the BMW lost the comparison. But yeah, the current 335i is independently dynoing right around 300 HP rwhp.


I wonder about this, what benefit is there to bmw to advertising their cars with less power? I would more likely say that in the article you referenced earlier that the result were specific to that dyno and no generalizable across all vehicles.

p.s. by questioning this I claim no expertise and also lend now arguement to the idea that a lowly A4 would skool such a car. I want no part of that lol.

[tomasmdiego]

there is no way you beat himm!!! need proof to believe

[INTEGRATION]

Since this this topic magically appeared again... I'll magically post up these pics again:

http://www.integration-r.com/images/AudiA4QT/5-13-07/335A4_1.jpg

http://www.integration-r.com/images/AudiA4QT/5-13-07/335A4_5.jpg

Remember, the 335i can take the new S5 on track.

[Con]

you passed him on the highway. aka he wasn't racing you.

[tivs31]

most german cars typically underestimate thier hp claims, I don't really know why, but just about 9 time out of 10, when you strap a stock german car up to a dyno thier wheel hp #'s match up with thier manufacturer's claimed crank hp #'s.

I think it's just a way to give less focus on the engine and more on the overall package maybe? Sometimes it's even done to aviod infringing on thier higher hp variants, like for instance if the 335 got thier true hp # correct, they would be at about 345-350 hp at the crank with 15% loss in the drivetrain. That would start getting pretty darn close to m3 territory, therefore perhaps cutting the sales of the e92 m3, but then again put a e92 m on the dyno and I would be pretty sure the same holds true.

The 2.0t is no slouch either in that case as well, putting down similar #'s in comparison to whp vs crank hp [up]

[mxp]

hahaha yea right ... i couldn't beat him in my car when i had stage 3 ... sure you beat him

[Unleaded20T]

I don't think that an A4 2.0L T or 3.2L can beat a 3.5L in a bmw 3 series unless is tweaked and the bmw is not.

[Louis J.]

Yawn...thanks for sharing your shortcomings.

[b00st]

yeah i saw a post on the 335. they took a bunch of stock 335s and threw them on dyno. they calculated the crank HP to be between 327CHP to 355CHP. In a follow-up, they're now stating that the 275 rear-wheel horsepower number that was reported was actually the lowest of four pulls; one even generated 283 ponies. And all of this was with 92 F ambient temps - the sort of air that usually kills the output of boosted engines. A few quick taps on our trusty calculator shows that this engine is likely putting out closer to 350 hp and 360 lb-ft of torque.


The publication then strapped a second sample to the same dyno, but this time in 78 F weather. Three runs yielded an average of 285 RWHP, with the other two varying from that by a maximum of three HP.

BMW's turbocharged 335i is rated by the manufacturer at 300 HP and 300 lb-ft of torque at the crankshaft, which seemed a bit low to us considering the 255 HP rating of its naturally-aspirated brethren. Sure, the turbo system was designed to maximize the usable powerband instead of creating moonshot-like peak power, but a mere 17% bump in the power ratings just didn't compute.

Investigating the matter further, Automobile Magazine strapped down a 335i to a Dynojet chassis dyno. Such a device measures power at the rear wheels, and translation into crankshaft numbers requires that one account for drivetrain losses. Taking into account the loss of 15% or thereabouts that we'd expect to see from a Dynojet run (don't get hung up trying to determine a precise "loss" number, because there is much more to it than just an estimation of friction), something in the neighborhood of 255 HP would be expected at the rear wheels from 300 HP at the crank - but that wasn't the case. The 335i instead laid down 276 HP, as well as spinning the rollers with 300 lb-ft of torque as measured at the rear wheels. That's about 37% healthier than the 330i.

So, what's up? Yes, the new SAE J1349 dyno standard is supposed to eliminate this sort of rating tomfoolery, but it's only accurate under one specified set of conditions. Dynometers, such as the Dynojet, attempt to correct the results back to a set of conditions, but they're slightly different than those used for J1349. That likely accounts for only a few percentage points of difference, though. More likely is that the Bimmer's engine management system, rather than simply establishing a limit for boost, is constantly attempting to maximize airflow while controlling detonation. Such a system cannot easily be corrected, and putting such a vehicle on a dyno under optimum conditions (usually with particularly cool ambient air temps) can yield results well in excess of the manufacturer's ratings, and this likely explains why the measured torque peak is disproportionate to the horsepower peak.

All this power - accessible at nearly any engine speed, judging by the broad torque curve - gives the 335i performance that nearly rivals that of the previous-gen M3, with the quarter-mile disappearing in 13.6 seconds and with a trap speed of 104 MPH. That sort of performance puts it in the running as Sleeper of the Year.

[supamannn99]

Remember, the 335i can take the new S5 on track.

not when im in the S5. :D

[davis449]

I wonder about this, what benefit is there to bmw to advertising their cars with less power? I would more likely say that in the article you referenced earlier that the result were specific to that dyno and no generalizable across all vehicles.

p.s. by questioning this I claim no expertise and also lend now arguement to the idea that a lowly A4 would skool such a car. I want no part of that lol.

This test, as in all the major magazines tests, were using numbers given to them by the manufacturers for ALL vehicles manufactured. In other words, the same numbers printed in the brochures at the dealership.

[Goped220]

Just to calrify something my boy at Farnbacher Loles has a stock Audi A3 2.0T 6 Speed with just a custom maped software that pulls 275 Horse Power And 290 Torque! Thank you and have a nice day.

[FireWire]

^ 2.0t b7 > 335i coupe? very doubtful

[supamannn99]

enzoballin claimed his mustang had 1000WHEEL HP

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=194125

lawlz



like always,



its not true if there's no dyno sheets to prove it. Thank you and have a nice day.

[davis449]

Just to calrify something my boy at Farnbacher Loles has a stock Audi A3 2.0T 6 Speed with just a custom maped software that pulls 275 Horse Power And 290 Torque! Thank you and have a nice day.

Man you need to come in here armed with something more than that claim. Do you even understand the difference between crank and wheel horsepower? Do you know what drive train loss is? Even if Farnbacher has proof of those numbers, do you have proof that you pull those numbers with your software at the wheels? I'm sorry, but if my friend's 242 fwhp GTI can't beat a 335i, then there's no way in hell you can. I seriously know that guy wasn't racing you. You're a poser, get over it. Thank you.

[shadyday]

i drive a 335, i'm actually in the process of getting out of it, possibly gunna pick up a 2.0T A4...& i'm sorry but there is NO WAY that you smoked a 335..i test drove the A4 & it's slow! it's speed, or lack there of, has been the only thing really holding me back from committing completely!

[Goped220]

Davis449 this is wheel horse power I am talking about, real number off the dyno. I will let you answer if I know the difference between crank and wheel horse power smart one!

[Goped220]

Shadyday i will smoke you any day & any time! Thank you!

[davis449]

Davis449 this is wheel horse power I am talking about, real number off the dyno. I will let you answer if I know the difference between crank and wheel horse power smart one!

I would continue to argue with you, but at this point I'm almost convinced you started this thread just to start shit. Especially after the above post. I would LOVE to see you post up the dyno of that 276 whp on pure software. Do it and prove that the dyno that did it is accurate and you can have this argument. Till then it's hearsay.

[Louis J.]

Someone here was clearly shortchanged at birth and now needs to make up for it...

[Fobia]

Since this this topic magically appeared again... I'll magically post up these pics again:

http://www.integration-r.com/images/AudiA4QT/5-13-07/335A4_1.jpg

http://www.integration-r.com/images/AudiA4QT/5-13-07/335A4_5.jpg

Remember, the 335i can take the new S5 on track.
based on what? the 5th gear review? cause she doesnt look like she knows how to drive that car

[Goped220]

I am not starting shit davis449. I am just tell you what is out there. Yes the car is pure software. I will get the dyno sheet up to prove it to you. I guess you will eat your own word cowboy.

[Bryan]

加油...

[greene08]

I'm looking at my next car to be the S5 or the 335i Coupe (with ECU upgrade). I have yet to test drive the S5 but I find the BMW ride and steering feel to be much more accurate and invigorating than my A4 and even my buddies S4.

One of the main reasons for understating the power ratings is to lessen the insurance premiums for the car's owner. The lower the HP rating, the lower the car's insurance risk rating, the lower the cost to insure.

Insurance companies can only base a car's risk off of the manufacturer supplied information and not on what someone says the car has. For that, I love the Germans! Too bad our A4s do not overstate their power ratings. :-(

[d. wig]

i drive a 335, i'm actually in the process of getting out of it, possibly gunna pick up a 2.0T A4...& i'm sorry but there is NO WAY that you smoked a 335..i test drove the A4 & it's slow! it's speed, or lack there of, has been the only thing really holding me back from committing completely!

why are you considering the switch if you don't mind me asking??

[A4addict]

What's a BMW335i? Is that another one of those European cars popularized by homosexuals?

Back on topic:
I smoked an S4. Skooled him big time.

[Goped220]

LOL! Nice man. Good Job Keep Up The Good Work.

[INTEGRATION]

based on what? the 5th gear review? cause she doesnt look like she knows how to drive that car
http://www.vb-h.net/biography.htm more e-skillz than you.


加油...

他媽的...

[Goped220]

English Please!

[b00st]

this isn't finished yet?[headbang]

[mxp]

Yawn...thanks for sharing your shortcomings.

QFTW

[SEXICÄN]

I raced a guy in a 335 and i was in a S5!

[supamannn99]

http://www.vb-h.net/biography.htm more e-skillz than you.



他媽的...

LOL [>_>]

[Six Speed Turbo]

LOL[hail]

I just call it as I see it. This one just happened to be very easy to call.[:D] Audiziners will always catch these posts and slam the members who post them, NEVER FAILS. I find it funny that people who have been members for a while still post them (even if it may be true) because they already know what the outcome will be.

[Six Speed Turbo]

Shadyday i will smoke you any day & any time! Thank you!

Goped220- I don't know you personally, but you are sounding pretty immature right meow. Meow first off, if people don't believe you prove them wrong (if you can). If not, well then meow you look like you're posting false information. Meow, there is no reason to have a pissing match in a public forum like little kids............MEOW !!!![:D]

[Six Speed Turbo]

I raced a guy in a 335 and i was in a S5!

Who won??

[Grk_A4]

This argument should come to an end when he posts his dyno sheets. If he has any. Until then these threads will always be a good source of amusement!

As for bmw understating their power ratings I have come across numerous statements(on this site), that say they use it as a marketing niche for the new M3. If they stated the realistic power ratings of the 335 well then no one would buy an M3. Considering the 335 is much cheaper and with a chip would perform almost as good if not as good as the new M3, well then there isn't much of a reason to buy the M3 is there. Unless of course you just want to show ppl who has the larger ****. Hell I can't wait to see the 135i on a dyno same engine with a considerable weight reduction. I won't be surprised if it literally flies!!! lol

[shadyday]

why are you considering the switch if you don't mind me asking??

to be honest, i've had a couple BMW's before my 335, my last 2 car's were Evo's & i just want to give the Audi a try. i LOVE the refined look of the '08 SLine, audi is an amazingly built car, i love all wheel drive & i just don't like 95% of the bmw owners i've come across. it doesn't seem like anybody bought the 335 because they love driving & are enthusiasts...it's more of the "i drive a bmw, fuck you" attitude & it's pretty lame!

so i'm gunna pick up the audi & see if it changes me to an Audi enthusiast!

[shadyday]

Goped220- I don't know you personally, but you are sounding pretty immature right meow. Meow first off, if people don't belive you prove them wrong (if you can). If not, well then meow you look like you're posting false information. Meow, there is no reason to have a pissing match in a public forum like little kids............MEOW !!!![:D]

+1

[4-tified]

I don't think that an A4 2.0L T or 3.2L can beat a 3.5L in a bmw 3 series unless is tweaked and the bmw is not.

The BMW 335i has a 3.0 twin turbo engine, not a 3.5 liter.

[4-tified]

Insurance companies can only base a car's risk off of the manufacturer supplied information and not on what someone says the car has. For that, I love the Germans! Too bad our A4s do not overstate their power ratings. :-(


Insurances companies can base the premiums on any number of things, and they mainly base it on prior history of the car brand/line.
It doesn't matter much to most insurance companies if a BMW makes 400hp as long as those who pay the premiums are not making high claims.
The power claim is quite low on the list of how to calculate premiums.

A much more important factor for insurance premiums is the drivers age.
Most BMW/Audi owners are not under 21. These brands tend to be owned by older people with much better driving skills and thus lower premiums.
I can own a Z06 Corvette fully covered and pay less than half of what a 21 year old will pay for a fast but cheap SRT4 with less coverage.
I pose a lower risk to the insurance company than the younger guy with a fast car.

BMW didn't rate the power of the 3 series so that young drivers can have lower insurance premiums. [:D]

[Goped220]

Grk A4 ella re ti kanis?

[3.2some]

Grk A4 ella re ti kanis?
opa re ellinas?apo pou eisai???

[d. wig]

to be honest, i've had a couple BMW's before my 335, my last 2 car's were Evo's & i just want to give the Audi a try. i LOVE the refined look of the '08 SLine, audi is an amazingly built car, i love all wheel drive & i just don't like 95% of the bmw owners i've come across. it doesn't seem like anybody bought the 335 because they love driving & are enthusiasts...it's more of the "i drive a bmw, fuck you" attitude & it's pretty lame!

so i'm gunna pick up the audi & see if it changes me to an Audi enthusiast!

yea.. i think you will love the audi community.. this is my third audi and i was close to dishing out the extra cash and getting a 335.. but, out here they are everywhere and the people that drive them, drive like idiots..rather not be associated with that

[VZWalex]

yea.. i think you will love the audi community.. this is my third audi and i was close to dishing out the extra cash and getting a 335.. but, out here they are everywhere and the people that drive them, drive like idiots..rather not be associated with that

^^ x2 thats why I am working on convering my girl from BMW to Audi .. she already Loves my car ... so I know when the B8's come out here in the states it should not be a problem

[OverSpun]

LOL. The 335 was in 6th gear and didnt downshift then, or even try to race. Funny thread.

[Goped220]

Heraklion, Crete

[lokeh]

meow, why is this debate still going on meow?

I thought we already sum'd it up meow...

335i > k03......meow!

meow > you at pissing contest.....

[Goped220]

I really don't care what you guys think. You’re all talk anyways. I know what happen I was in the car driving. So end of story. Thank you.

[TonyD]

One time I raced a giraffe. It won.

[3.2some]

Heraklion, Crete
ego apo kavala

[Noffy]

I really don't care what you guys think. You’re all talk anyways. I know what happen I was in the car driving. So end of story. Thank you.


well I have been trying to stay out of this silly conversation, but why do you say "you are all talk" when it is really you that has done the talking with out any proof? I don't understand what you mean, honestly. Also where are those dyno graphs you said you would get, I would like to see this A3, sounds bad ass.

thanks

[Goped220]

The A3 was tuned by the man him self he flew in from england to tune it. Also he tuned some race porsche for the Grand Am Cup. I will get the dyno up asap i need to get it from my boy.

[Grk_A4]

ego aptin patra tha to sikosoume xana. euro 2008!!!

[3.2some]

Ellathara reeeeeeee!!!!!

[Goped220]

Stiko seto to gamei maeno then boro nai peremeno! Euro 2004!

[lokeh]

I really don't care what you guys think. You’re all talk anyways. I know what happen I was in the car driving. So end of story. Thank you.

meow, but you do care hence why you keep coming back and reading meow comments and responding to meow.

that is what caring is meow.

either that or you are a post meow and just want the attention meow....

leave while you still have meow dignity, oh wait nvm meow doesn't have that either anymore meow....[evilsmile]

[Goped220]

meow! LOL!

[Six Speed Turbo]

Yes right MEOW!

Stop this ridiculous arguing, post the stupid dyno graphs or accept defeat.

[Goped220]

Yes Sir! Why don't believe the man from England is capable so doing it just from his laptop. LOL!

[lnferno]

I really don't care what you guys think. You’re all talk anyways. I know what happen I was in the car driving. So end of story. Thank you.


You were able to see what gear he was in from your driver seat? [rolleyes] Your story has more holes than this

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ec/NCI_swiss_cheese.jpg/550px-NCI_swiss_cheese.jpg

[Goped220]

Your a clown that can't even drive i bet!

[camhabib]

Even if you were stupid enough to pump enough money into your A4 to get it to put out nearly the same numbers as a 335i, the BMW is still lighter and better balanced then an A4 will ever be. I don't think anyone here is doubting you got in front of a 335i, its just everyone here knows that you weren't "racing" him.

[SGVA4]

There must be a reason that you beat him: He wasn't racing YOU at all.

Theres just no way in hell that a 2.0T can smoke a 335I. I raced one in my Z and I can only keep up until around 90mph. After that, the TT was just too much.

I had intake, full true dual HKS exhaust, motordyne 5/16 iso thermal spacer and HP was rated around 315hp.

[swoardrider]

I just raced one and skooled him! LOL

I just drove Laguna on Monday and ran faster than a Z06, a new 911 4S, and every other car in my run group on street tires except a new 911 Turbo, which I was just as fast as until we hit the hill and straight away.

Does this mean I can claim my A4 smokes Z06's?. F^*k no! All it means is that I was a better driver than them. In fact my car had the worst power to weight ratio out there.

I believe you when you say you beat a driver that was driving a 335i. But don't think for a second car vs. car, that a KO3 A4 will outrun a 335i.

I've ran down straightaways over 1000 times in front of, and behind E46 M3's, S2000's, EVO's, 350Z's, and STI's. All of these cars are slightly tuned, and have similar power to weight ratios of the 335i. I'm running at 3750lbs and on APR 100oct, test pipe, and 18lbs race rims. They never pass me, but I can never gain one inch on any of these cars. And I guarantee, everyone is WOT.

[supamannn99]

a 335's engine compared to ours is like a 2.0+1.0 liter with two extra huge cylinders and two K04 Turbos on each side. its lighter too. wow what a car.

[OverSpun]

I really don't care what you guys think. You’re all talk anyways. I know what happen I was in the car driving. So end of story. Thank you.

Haha... Bring your car to socal and we'll see. [:D]

http://autobahnexotics.com/Images/335/33534f2.jpg
[O_O]

[Goped220]

Come to NY if you can follow me up the Saw Mill Parkway thru all the turns doing 120 MPH the whole you win. If you want a challenge I will do 140 mph with the traction control off!

[chrislane31]

Any dyno plots?

[lnferno]

Your a clown that can't even drive i bet!


LOL The Vette and M3 drivers in my sig would probably disagree with you [;)]

[supamannn99]

lawl

dont mess with inferno man.

[Louis J.]

Your a clown that can't even drive i bet!

Funny, that's exactly what I was thinking...about you.

[s4raf88]

Haha this is still going on I've read every page, its pretty funny this must be like the 3000hp enzo thread. Or maybe this is a 3000hp A4!!!!!!!! Also you said this was on a highway, not a track, while I dont doubt your tracking skills, on a straight away you starting off beside him makes me doubt you smoked his car from a roll.

[Goped220]

That video sucks. Go watch Farnbacher Loles Racing Team if you want to see skill!

[davis449]

The A3 was tuned by the man him self he flew in from england to tune it. Also he tuned some race porsche for the Grand Am Cup. I will get the dyno up asap i need to get it from my boy.

I wasn't gonna post back up in this thread, but now I just can't resist. So now you're quoting numbers from a 2.0T A3 to back your shit up? God, you're more of a moron than I thought. You do realize that he's FWD, which means he has much less drive train loss than you do (you have Quattro). You can't quote the same gains he has cause he will put it to the pavement more efficiently than you and to top it off, go look at the APR numbers from their website. You aren't near 276 at the crank, even with exhaust. It's also a fact that the typical 2.0T mods do more for the transverse engine than the longitudinal (have I lost you yet?). The numbers prove it. Now, I'm out cause I have DEFINITELY proved you're an idiot. Don't come back at me or anyone else unless you have a dyno of your car at 276+ awhp. Bye bye loser.[down]

[lnferno]

That video sucks. Go what Farnbacher Loles Racing Team if you want to see skill!

Here's a novel idea -- how about if you post up vids of YOU racing. Let's see your mad skills! [drive] [hail] ....Audizine is still waiting on your proof...I think we should grab a snickers bar, because we're going to be waiting for that proof for a while. [:D]

[Six Speed Turbo]

Here's a novel idea -- how about if you post up vids of YOU racing. Let's see your mad skills! [drive] [hail] ....Audizine is still waiting on your proof...I think we should grab a snickers bar, because we're going to be waiting for that proof for a while. [:D]

Inferno - I agree. Bring on the chocolatey goodness. Fat kids gotta eat.

Goped220 - I keep hearing you talk about this racing god. It seems like everytime someone asks you something about you, you refer back to this guy and dodging the questions. We're interested with you, not the guy who has already "PROVEN" himself to the world. Maybe YOU should watch his videos and stay off the forums. You have failed to produce your "PROOF". Yet you keep on attacking other members on the forum and talking about this guy to cover up your inadequecies. Like I said before show us the "PROOF" and we'll shut up and get off your back if not, well then you should probably do the same.

[supamannn99]

this is why im on audizine. i love reading this shit. lmao.

[era]

Goped's grammar hurts my eyes![O_O]

[Berk@sheepsquad]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2361/2402601000_430cfac2a5_o.jpg

[ckpepper02]

I flew past a 135i in my 2.7T AR!!






he made a right turn.

[ckpepper02]

I can do Laguna Seca in 49 secs boyeeeee!!!!!







ForzaMotorsport2...

[AlexK]

I cant believe this is still going.

[muffinman]

Don't mess with Goped, his e-peenor is bigger than yours [O_O]

[Goped220]

Lol!

[AAAA]

Come to NY if you can follow me up the Saw Mill Parkway thru all the turns doing 120 MPH the whole you win. If you want a challenge I will do 140 mph with the traction control off!

dude what are you, about 12? i always wonder if assclowns like you actually exist, or if its just some old timer playing tricks on us to grit our teeth. its a scary thought...

[Noffy]

I just drove Laguna on Monday and ran faster than a Z06, a new 911 4S, and every other car in my run group on street tires except a new 911 Turbo, which I was just as fast as until we hit the hill and straight away.

Does this mean I can claim my A4 smokes Z06's?. F^*k no! All it means is that I was a better driver than them. In fact my car had the worst power to weight ratio out there.

I believe you when you say you beat a driver that was driving a 335i. But don't think for a second car vs. car, that a KO3 A4 will outrun a 335i.

I've ran down straightaways over 1000 times in front of, and behind E46 M3's, S2000's, EVO's, 350Z's, and STI's. All of these cars are slightly tuned, and have similar power to weight ratios of the 335i. I'm running at 3750lbs and on APR 100oct, test pipe, and 18lbs race rims. They never pass me, but I can never gain one inch on any of these cars. And I guarantee, everyone is WOT.

Being a better driver means a lot more at Laguna than it does on some str8 stretch of freeway. Any fools can press the pedal to the floor and drive str8. You barely have to shift cause you are already at speed, and you don't have to turn, I am not sure how "better" you coudl really be in that environment.

Inferno: I am sad to say, cause I wanted to see it and be happier with my car, but I don't think we will see that proof ever. Because it isn't there, Goped doesn't have it, and noone else does either, Unfortunatey

[Goped220]

Look guy I am sorry my friend will not give me the dyno sheet because it was tuned under contract with the tuner from England. So believe whatever you want I am here just to tell you was is going out there in the art of tuning! Thank you!

[camhabib]

Look guy I am sorry my friend will not give me the dyno sheet because it was tuned under contract with the tuner from England. So believe whatever you want I am here just to tell you was is going out there in the art of tuning! Thank you!

Either way, whether the car can produce those numbers or not, you're an idiot. An idiot for either trying to convince people you could beat a lighter and more powerful car or an idiot for spending the obscene amount of money necessary to make your car get those numbers. You should probably stfu at this point because either way, you lose. End of story.

[Goped220]

camhabib go shove it! MASSHOLE!

[camhabib]

camhabib go shove it! MASSHOLE!

uhh.....
http://www.kevininscoe.com/pub/lol.jpg

[Goped220]

LOL! That was great!

[Stak3407]

This thread is whack!! I just posted because everyone else seems to have, see ya!!

[kurupt_hawaiian]

This thread is whack!! I just posted because everyone else seems to have, see ya!!

Same Here!

[tvieira24]

He wasn't racing, if he was you'd have gotton schooled. A stock 335i will embarass most modded a4's.

[Goped220]

tvieira24 so how the tip I hear its super fast. Anyways do you know what a 335xi dynos out cause i know. If i run APR race file do you know what I will dyno at cause i know. Do you know what the max Horse power the 2.0t FSI motor can hold? So Shut the F**K UP! MASSHOLE!

[tvieira24]

tvieira24 so how the tip I hear its super fast. Anyways do you know what a 335xi dynos out cause i know. If i run APR race file do you know what I will dyno at cause i know. Do you know what the max Horse power the 2.0t FSI motor can hold? So Shut the F**K UP! MASSHOLE!

The tip is pretty slow but my EVO's pretty quick [;)] Pissing match aside, you're a tool.

Either way, you have to keep in mind that not every 2.0 FSI motor has the same internals. The ones in the A3's and GTi's are capable of handling more power than our A4's are.

You also have to take into account the fact that you suck at life and should really understand that a 335i OR 335xi makes about as much power to the wheels stock as your car does with your mods. Add a simple one mod Vishnu tune and you're blown out of the water.

[lnferno]

Inferno: I am sad to say, cause I wanted to see it and be happier with my car, but I don't think we will see that proof ever. Because it isn't there, Goped doesn't have it, and noone else does either, Unfortunatey

For me, it's a moot point. Dinan or Vishnu tuned 335i's are slow [:p]

[ItsThat2.0T]

What the hell is going on in this topic, no way I'm reading every page.

[3.2some]

What the hell is going on in this topic, no way I'm reading every page.
it's a good read, trust me

[Louis J.]

Goped220 claims he raced and beat a 335 and logically everybody else thinks he's either full of BS or he's calling out for attention. The first few posts made for good drama but it's now turned into an accident...it's awful and sad but you just can't stop watching.

[lnferno]

Ah-ha! I knew I remembered seeing this:

Goped's 213 AWHP Dyno Graph (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2393129&postcount=44)

...and how did you pull on a car from a highway roll that has better highway gearing than your A4 and has about 60 more HP than you? [confused]

[tvieira24]

For me, it's a moot point. Dinan or Vishnu tuned 335i's are slow [:p]

When ya got a K04 under the hood, the grass isn't so green on the other side [:D]

How much power ya puttin down on the K04?

[lnferno]

When ya got a K04 under the hood, the grass isn't so green on the other side [:D]

How much power ya puttin down on the K04?

I have two K04s under the hood [:p]

[tvieira24]

Ah-ha! I knew I remembered seeing this:

Goped's 213 AWHP Dyno Graph (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2393129&postcount=44)

...and how did you pull on a car from a highway roll that has better highway gearing than your A4 and has about 60 more HP than you? [confused]

PWNED!

I was in the "goped doesn't even drive yet" crowd but now I'm stuck between thinking that maybe you really DID think they were racing you and now I'm sitting here feeling bad for you.

Either way, doing a fly by past a F16 doesn't mean you're faster than a jet.

[tvieira24]

I have two K04s under the hood [:p]

In the B7?

[lnferno]

In the B7?
In the B5

[era]

Ah-ha! I knew I remembered seeing this:

Goped's 213 AWHP Dyno Graph (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2393129&postcount=44)

...and how did you pull on a car from a highway roll that has better highway gearing than your A4 and has about 60 more HP than you? [confused]

Classic pwnage

[Goped220]

I have a 2.7T Motor with RS6 Turbos.

[Goped220]

tvieira24, I guess you dont know how much an unbulit 2.0T FSI motor can hold. YOU JACK OFF!

[A4addict]

http://www.ricesigns.com/real_pictures/bump_signs.jpg



tvieira24, I gues you dont know how much an un bulit 2.0T FSI motor can hold. YOU JACK OFF!

Dude.. is this the way you talk in real life? You're speech impediment is so bad that it affects your typing?

[Goped220]

LOL! I dont spell check cause i dont care about you guys enough!

[tvieira24]

In the B5

What'd the B7 put down?

[Goped220]

K04 is wack anyways. You got to go all out APR Stage 3 Garrett GT Series Turbo!

[tvieira24]

Well in comparison to your weak ass dyno, the K04 is looking pretty damn good.

I guess you could probably smoke a K04 B7 with your mods though, but you couldn't touch a APR Stage 3?



Ah-ha! I knew I remembered seeing this:

Goped's 213 AWHP Dyno Graph (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2393129&postcount=44)

[Goped220]

I am getting one of the first batches of the APR stage 3 with the software map to put a 390 wheel horse power on the dyno if all the air fuel ratios are right!

[tvieira24]

And I'm gonna buy a Veyron as soon as I have a ton of money sitting around, but the fact that you're not gonna beat that 335i without that magical turbo upgrade.


Ah-ha! I knew I remembered seeing this:

Goped's 213 AWHP Dyno Graph (http://www.audizine.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2393129&postcount=44)

[Goped220]

To bad i just got a Bugatti Veyron from Miller Motors in Greenwich, CT!

[tvieira24]

To bad i just got a Bugatti Veyron from Miller Motors in Greenwich, CT!

Yer ghey.

[Goped220]

so is your father!

[Goped220]

oh yah and tip is the gheyist!

[tvieira24]

so is your father!

My fathers dead. Thanks asshole.

[AAAA]

tvieira24, I guess you dont know how much an unbulit 2.0T FSI motor can hold. YOU JACK OFF!

It doesn't matter how much the 2.0t can hold. Most of us are well aware of that. There isn't even a legit kit out right now for the longitudinal setup that puts the motor at its limits, so what's your point? We're not talking about how much the motor can hold, we're talking about how much power your motor has.....or doesn't have to go up against a car that would smear you all over a 3 block radius of your house.


I am getting one of the first batches of the APR stage 3 with the software map to put a 390 wheel horse power on the dyno if all the air fuel ratios are right!

I highly doubt anyone from APR is contemplating giving you one of their first turbo kits that has not even been confirmed of its production. If they are making this kit for us, they're not discussing it with a tool like you, Stanley.

[lnferno]

What'd the B7 put down? It dyno'd higher than a stock 335xi on the same dyno [;)]

[s4raf88]

My fathers dead. Thanks asshole.


That right there is very wrong, why would you say that his father is gay, did you know him, did you ever see him or spoken to him. Then again your defense for saying this is that everyone is calling you a tool, well I guess there saying that well because, read all the stupid shit you've been saying.

Anyways back to topic, I really hope that your not a grown ass man becasue thats just embarrassing, the way you carry your self on this forum. I guess I shouldnt be talking because I'm 19, but I know my place and wont disrespect the people that are always here to answer any questions that I have.

Now I'm all for being on your side here but please, when people post these "kill" stories they usually walk us through the step by step events that took place, you simply stated that you killed a 335i. Tell me exactly what happened, and I'll be more than happy to back you up. [race]

[AAAA]

It dyno'd higher than a stock 335xi on the same dyno [;)]

But not all of us are crazy enough to run on 100oct all the time Mr. Inferno....[:D]

[lnferno]

But not all of us are crazy enough to run on 100oct all the time Mr. Inferno....[:D]


That was on pump gas [cool] Unfortunately, I never did dyno on the 104 program on the latest setup back then [:(]

[Louis J.]

Will somebody please, pretty please pass the crack pipe?

[EuroB6]

damn man..i cant believe no one believes him...it is possible..























335 was probably in limp mode at the time...sorry, just had to

[Phrost]

Goped, did you flash your hazard lights after you passed him and continued to accelerate?

[Goped220]

Yes!

[supamannn99]

thread of the month right here.

[Goped220]

here is how you dyno and tune a car- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpOFHc3U-Wo

[coryliv]

wow this thread might soon be as long as the thread with pics of everyone's girlfriends...

[AudiGuy666]

what a stupid thread/

[Stak3407]

tvieira24 so how the tip I hear its super fast. Anyways do you know what a 335xi dynos out cause i know. If i run APR race file do you know what I will dyno at cause i know. Do you know what the max Horse power the 2.0t FSI motor can hold? So Shut the F**K UP! MASSHOLE!

Uhhh what's a masshole?

[supamannn99]

i fucking love this thread

[tvieira24]

Uhhh what's a masshole?

A scientific term for a very large hole in the massachusetts region.

[Noffy]

Uhhh what's a masshole?


It is what someone from Conneticut refers to a driver from Boston or somewhere else in Mass.

[vtracer20]

i guess were not gonna see any dyno sheets to prove anything...:( bummer

[Stak3407]

It is what someone from Conneticut refers to a driver from Boston or somewhere else in Mass.

Ugh, interesting lol, you learn something new everyday.

[ItsJ]

interesting.....

[bcramer]

Holy back from the dead Batman!

[lyjw88]

this thread is hilarious lol

[Grishbok]

this thread is like an std, right when you think its finally gone, it comes back with a vengeance.

[windextor]

how did you even find this thread just to write "interesting..." haha

[Rotond0000]

im drunk....

this thread is rediculuso

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g87/mpr4005/Epic-fail-guy-dance-1.gif

[bcramer]

im drunk....

this thread is rediculuso

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g87/mpr4005/Epic-fail-guy-dance-1.gif

Haha,

Remember, remember the 5th of November.

[Clown4]

Since this this topic magically appeared again... I'll magically post up these pics again:

http://www.integration-r.com/images/AudiA4QT/5-13-07/335A4_1.jpg

http://www.integration-r.com/images/AudiA4QT/5-13-07/335A4_5.jpg

Remember, the 335i can take the new S5 on track.

sorry guys, i hate to break yall's bubbles.
BUT from these 2 pictures, I'll still take b7 any day over the 335.
First off, I love an Audi, and I can't deny that I think BMW's damn hot, too.
And a car's worth depends on the owner's perspective.
A car can be great either in performance, the feeling it sends off to the driver, or just the sheer pride that the driver feels when s/he knows that it's an AUDI.

I love to see any b7/b6/b5's beat the fuck outta 335, e46/e92 m3's, and I know they can with mods. That's when those bmw's are stock or slightly tuned. But, since I own an Audi, and I love the way it looks from various angles, I'd love to think it's the best car.

It's just like, you won't complain about how dumb your kids are, or brag around how clever and good looking they are like you are some jerks. You love it in your heart, no matter if it's superior than others or inferior. Let's be realistic here, would you be proud to own a f430? and yes, it's hella fast, and it's a damn hot ferrari. But you know what? people with pagani zonda F, gumpert apollo, rolls royce phantom would think your f430's just some kid's toy. Is that a good analogy? not too shabby I guess.

[Frizholy]

im rofling and loling and lmaoing at this thread...

[Alky]

*yawwwwwn*

[Bryan]

Seriously, any possible our A4 2.0T can beat 335i ??VF-GT2871 BT ?...
List mods u think may beat 335i......
I REALLY HATE BMW 335I.
cheers =P

[Rotond0000]

im rofling and loling and lmaoing at this thread...

lololololololol[>_<]

[Clown4]

Seriously, any possible our A4 2.0T can beat 335i ??VF-GT2871 BT ?...
List mods u think may beat 335i......
I REALLY HATE BMW 335I.
cheers =P

haha, I second that!
I don't hate them as much though :P

[Bryan]

^^ Too many 335i in Vancouver area, its like more than Honda Civic =__="

[gpultro]

335i are gay and slow i make them wish they had my car and there girl friends want to ride with me

[yettavr6]

We have both. I'd take the Audi any day....but there is no way an A4 is beating a 335 without a complete BT upgrade. You would need some serious mods to beat a stock 335, and a 335 with a chip = Game Over. A stock 335 will run high 13's, and a 335 with just a chip can dip into the 12's. What does a 2.0t need to hit 12's? I'm not saying it can't be done with some $$$, but alot of people on here with a chip, intake, exhaust, and TP can't even hit 13's. But again, overall i like the Audi better. The B7 with the 335's motor and seats would be the best car ever [:D]

[yettavr6]

335i are gay and slow i make them wish they had my car and there girl friends want to ride with me

[rolleyes] What exactly makes a car "gay" ? FWIW, VW and Audi are very popular among gay people, me being one of them.

[davis449]

[rolleyes] What exactly makes a car "gay" ? FWIW, VW and Audi are very popular among gay people, me being one of them.

I remember a couple years ago reading that the number one "gay guy" car was the e46 3 series.

[ItsJ]

lol someone negged me, who was it..... i haven't been on this forum for a while, i didn't even know this was possible on this forum....i'm one of the the few old members of the forum, a 2k subscriber...

I love these post and this forum this was why i bumped it.....I have a 335i now, but I have had great audis. I just couldn't get as good of a deal on the S5, as I did on the fully loaded 335i, I will have an audi again, but for now definitely enjoying the 335, great car.

you guys are hilarious, i'm going to read more stuff i have missed out on, now give me some positive reps im a good guy, even though i am driving your bastard cousin.

[gpultro]

sorry for the gay comment i meant to say slow crapy car is that better am i forgiven

[gpultro]

i own e 46s as well they are nothing special hate to break it to you lol

[FLAudiMotion]

BUMP! for a great thread!

HAHA! Just kidding!

Can't we do like a reverse bump on this thing or something?

[monkey323i]

there goes another immature thread...

it is NOT actually your 2.0T beat 335i...

it is you DRIVER luckily beat the DRIVER in 335i cuz he prob did terrible shifting making the 4.6-4.8sec car to 6.5sec one or he didn't even intend to push hard.


try this...

Same driver, can 2.0T beat S5 in straight line? No.
can 2.0T beat S5 in real track? No.


Truth is, 335i is NOT ONLY faster than S5 in straight line.
335i is close to 1 sec faster than S5 in real race track. (check 5-th gear's test)


What do you intend to say in this post?
are you trying to say that BMW sucks? slow? or prove that you have amazing skill?
Truth is, eveyrone here knows 335i is a lot faster than stock 2.0T and they all know it depends on driver = =.


regular stock 3.0 Twin-turbo (No-turbo Lag) engine making it 300hp+.
this twin-turbo V6 is even lighter than E46 M3's V6 engine.

Great handling, very neutral car to drive (NO A4's heavy nose with famous known understeer), prefect balanced braking, and with engine of the year.


A truthly drivers car. and yet people in audi/infiniti/benz forums keep posting treads like "Oh, I just smoked a 335i tonight." the jealousy of people who own 335i?

For those people who saying "BMW sux" or ugly interior exterior sth.


You drive an Audi, doesn't mean that Audi FTW.
You say it looks ugly doesn't mean it is really ugly, but some other people love it.
Please at least have some respect towards other brands.


It would be pointless to see forum filled with these treads like:
"I just smoked 350z with my 2.0T tonight"
"I just smoked M3 with my 1.8T tonight"
"I just smoked S2000 with my 1.8T tonight"

Thank you.

[monkey323i]

335i are gay and slow i make them wish they had my car and there girl friends want to ride with me


thank you for demonstrating us an example of immauture reply, xD


how long is your 300hp+ 17PSI turbo lag again?


One of the reason why Nissan's VQ engine and BMW's engines often got engine reward is that their smooth rev hp curve. Unlike audi's Turbo engine, they got instant power no need to wait for turbo lag xD.
u press it, u get it right away.

If they had ur car, I wonder how much ^^^^ they may say for "omg wtf is the lag = ="


anwayz, this post is really pointless..
Im out.

[snosk8tr123]

there goes another immature thread...

It would be pointless to see forum filled with these treads like:
"I just smoked 350z with my 2.0T tonight"
"I just smoked M3 with my 1.8T tonight"
"I just smoked S2000 with my 1.8T tonight"

Thank you.

How is that pointless lol.. Its actually pretty interesting and entertaining to read.

[snosk8tr123]

BTW i was faster in my 2.0t with chip, tp, and coilovers, than a 335 with JB2, downpipes, and intake, around the Streets of Willow Track [:D]

250hp fat pig vs. 400hp lighter, faster car

[E46HoodRich]

I remember a couple years ago reading that the number one "gay guy" car was the e46 3 series.

well i heard it was b7 a4 audis. all chicks drive audis.at least down here in miami. BMW > audi all day ... gay car or not. [hail]BMW[hail]

[E46HoodRich]

a modded b7 a4 will beat a stock 335. once you chip the 335 theres no way a b7 will hang without building the motor. did you race a sedan or coupe? post a video next time.

[E46HoodRich]

there goes another immature thread...

it is NOT actually your 2.0T beat 335i...

it is you DRIVER luckily beat the DRIVER in 335i cuz he prob did terrible shifting making the 4.6-4.8sec car to 6.5sec one or he didn't even intend to push hard.


try this...

Same driver, can 2.0T beat S5 in straight line? No.
can 2.0T beat S5 in real track? No.


Truth is, 335i is NOT ONLY faster than S5 in straight line.
335i is close to 1 sec faster than S5 in real race track. (check 5-th gear's test)


What do you intend to say in this post?
are you trying to say that BMW sucks? slow? or prove that you have amazing skill?
Truth is, eveyrone here knows 335i is a lot faster than stock 2.0T and they all know it depends on driver = =.


regular stock 3.0 Twin-turbo (No-turbo Lag) engine making it 300hp+.
this twin-turbo V6 is even lighter than E46 M3's V6 engine.

Great handling, very neutral car to drive (NO A4's heavy nose with famous known understeer), prefect balanced braking, and with engine of the year.


A truthly drivers car. and yet people in audi/infiniti/benz forums keep posting treads like "Oh, I just smoked a 335i tonight." the jealousy of people who own 335i?

For those people who saying "BMW sux" or ugly interior exterior sth.


You drive an Audi, doesn't mean that Audi FTW.
You say it looks ugly doesn't mean it is really ugly, but some other people love it.
Please at least have some respect towards other brands.


It would be pointless to see forum filled with these treads like:
"I just smoked 350z with my 2.0T tonight"
"I just smoked M3 with my 1.8T tonight"
"I just smoked S2000 with my 1.8T tonight"

Thank you.

couldnt have said it better... end thread/ / /

[GTMRS4]

It would be pointless to see forum filled with these treads like:
"I just smoked 350z with my 2.0T tonight"
"I just smoked M3 with my 1.8T tonight"
"I just smoked S2000 with my 1.8T tonight"

Thank you.


How is that pointless....i've smoked all three of those cars with my 1.8T

[JMG]

there goes another immature thread...

it is NOT actually your 2.0T beat 335i...

it is you DRIVER luckily beat the DRIVER in 335i cuz he prob did terrible shifting making the 4.6-4.8sec car to 6.5sec one or he didn't even intend to push hard.


try this...

Same driver, can 2.0T beat S5 in straight line? No.
can 2.0T beat S5 in real track? No.


Truth is, 335i is NOT ONLY faster than S5 in straight line.
335i is close to 1 sec faster than S5 in real race track. (check 5-th gear's test)


What do you intend to say in this post?
are you trying to say that BMW sucks? slow? or prove that you have amazing skill?
Truth is, eveyrone here knows 335i is a lot faster than stock 2.0T and they all know it depends on driver = =.


regular stock 3.0 Twin-turbo (No-turbo Lag) engine making it 300hp+.
this twin-turbo V6 is even lighter than E46 M3's V6 engine.

Great handling, very neutral car to drive (NO A4's heavy nose with famous known understeer), prefect balanced braking, and with engine of the year.


A truthly drivers car. and yet people in audi/infiniti/benz forums keep posting treads like "Oh, I just smoked a 335i tonight." the jealousy of people who own 335i?

For those people who saying "BMW sux" or ugly interior exterior sth.


You drive an Audi, doesn't mean that Audi FTW.
You say it looks ugly doesn't mean it is really ugly, but some other people love it.
Please at least have some respect towards other brands.


It would be pointless to see forum filled with these treads like:
"I just smoked 350z with my 2.0T tonight"
"I just smoked M3 with my 1.8T tonight"
"I just smoked S2000 with my 1.8T tonight"

Thank you.

Very well said, and I agree with most of what you are saying. Expanding on that a little bit, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Many people think the 3 series is ugly as sin, I happen to like the 335i coupe, but hate the sedan. Truthfully, the interior is hideous and unappealing. This is all my opinion.

I KNOW the 335 is 300+ hp twin turbo, rwd etc, etc... but I CHOSE the Audi S4 because it has 4 doors and isn't ugly to me like the 335 sedan and I could sit in it all day and feel like I'm in a cockpit instead of just in the driver's seat. Even my friend, who drives an M3, was impressed with the interior and said his interior was crap compared. But that's all opinion.

So one week I drove a 335i, e46 M3, Audi A5, and the S4 I bought. Even though I knew the S4 wasn't the fastest driving machine I chose it for the 4 doors, looks, interior, and quattro. That was my choice.

Here's where I am going with this. A few times I have gotten the ricer flyby from Evos, to STIs, to M3s, to A4s, to 335i's. What I don't understand is the need to "beat" them or "smoke" them. What does that prove exactly? That I made the right decision to buy what I bought? It's like saying, "my Capt Crunch cereal will kick your Cheerio's ass!!! PWN3D!!" Sure, the Cheerios might be more nutritionally healthy for you, but you know what... I like effin' Capt Crunch. What is the GD point in all these comparisons and showboating FROM BOTH SIDES? Why do we feel like we have to brag if we smoked a faster car? Why do faster cars feel they have to brag about owning a faster car? Isn't it all just pointless and immature? Same thing goes for the A4 drivers who get BT then brags they can beat an S4. So what? So what if I don't have the time to get a BT installed on my car? I just wanted it fast out of the box... it's not like I'm going to start a racing career on the circuit. I could have easily took the money I spent on the S4 to get an A4 and BT it and smoke you too... but that's not my choice. So people who like to talk smack and brag about "kills" just keep that to yourself, no one really cares as much as you and your ego do.

As for BMW drivers, stop putting yourself on a pedestal. Believe it or not, as much as BMW is a great brand, not everyone thinks they are the best cars in the world, otherwise everyone who can afford one would have one. I would have one. I chose not to. Does that make you special? Does that make me stupid? No, it's just taste and option. You are no better, you just spent you money on X instead of Y.

[Sharkfin]

Very well said, and I agree with most of what you are saying. Expanding on that a little bit, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Many people think the 3 series is ugly as sin, I happen to like the 335i coupe, but hate the sedan. Truthfully, the interior is hideous and unappealing. This is all my opinion.

I KNOW the 335 is 300+ hp twin turbo, rwd etc, etc... but I CHOSE the Audi S4 because it has 4 doors and isn't ugly to me like the 335 sedan and I could sit in it all day and feel like I'm in a cockpit instead of just in the driver's seat. Even my friend, who drives an M3, was impressed with the interior and said his interior was crap compared. But that's all opinion.

So one week I drove a 335i, e46 M3, Audi A5, and the S4 I bought. Even though I knew the S4 wasn't the fastest driving machine I chose it for the 4 doors, looks, interior, and quattro. That was my choice.

Here's where I am going with this. A few times I have gotten the ricer flyby from Evos, to STIs, to M3s, to A4s, to 335i's. What I don't understand is the need to "beat" them or "smoke" them. What does that prove exactly? That I made the right decision to buy what I bought? It's like saying, "my Capt Crunch cereal will kick your Cheerio's ass!!! PWN3D!!" Sure, the Cheerios might be more nutritionally healthy for you, but you know what... I like effin' Capt Crunch. What is the GD point in all these comparisons and showboating FROM BOTH SIDES? Why do we feel like we have to brag if we smoked a faster car? Why do faster cars feel they have to brag about owning a faster car? Isn't it all just pointless and immature? Same thing goes for the A4 drivers who get BT then brags they can beat an S4. So what? So what if I don't have the time to get a BT installed on my car? I just wanted it fast out of the box... it's not like I'm going to start a racing career on the circuit. I could have easily took the money I spent on the S4 to get an A4 and BT it and smoke you too... but that's not my choice. So people who like to talk smack and brag about "kills" just keep that to yourself, no one really cares as much as you and your ego do.

As for BMW drivers, stop putting yourself on a pedestal. Believe it or not, as much as BMW is a great brand, not everyone thinks they are the best cars in the world, otherwise everyone who can afford one would have one. I would have one. I chose not to. Does that make you special? Does that make me stupid? No, it's just taste and option. You are no better, you just spent you money on X instead of Y.


Well fucking said, I completely agree. Drivers need to stop with those competitions because it doesn't prove anything, I'm perfectly happy with my 2.0T and no performance mods (yet) when other say that your slow and need to do this and that to make it "fast". I was looking for a solid all around vehicle not a fast car that lacks in other areas. It's my car and I enjoy it and that is all that matters.

[Latin Audi]

i beat a learjet today

[quattrosaint]

i beat a learjet today

just a learjet.......................get that thing chipped.

Why does everyone care what others drive. We are all fortunate enough to be able to drive great cars, some even lucky enough to have mod money. A real car person can appreciate cars/manufactures other than their own.

[xplosiveg06]

there is no way a a4 2.0t will out accelerate a 335i unless its heavily modded and the 335i is stock.


e46 non-ms are also slow as balls esp the 325 and 328

[Doctor]

there is no way a a4 2.0t will out accelerate a 335i unless its heavily modded and the 335i is stock.

At last, someone with a common sense...
I wonder what are some people thinking of when saying alla kind of funny things...

[marcus1701]

BMW's are great cars.....but it isn't individual like Audi. When you drive a 3 series you are driving the same cars most high school kids get for their first car along with old people and everyone in between. They are always the "safe bet" when it comes to buying.

When you get an Audi you're part of a more exclusive club IMO. Audi people will usually say hi to other Audi people and know what they bought is special. With BMWs I come across too many retirees, or soccer moms that seem to just buy their 5 series for sake of having a "nice" car only knowing the badge, and thinking that's all that matters.

If I see an old guy drive an Audi, I always think to myself he must be into cars a little. Seriously, owning both....I've had a lot of bad looks in my Z4 even from other BMW owners!! What also sucks is there seems to always be a better Bimmer on the road like the 6 series. If I had a 335i I'd feel like shit compared to an M3, not so with Audis.

[Sharkfin]

BMW's are great cars.....but it isn't individual like Audi. When you drive a 3 series you are driving the same cars most high school kids get for their first car along with old people and everyone in between. They are always the "safe bet" when it comes to buying.

This is the one thing that does bother me about BMW's, they are everywhere and everyone has them. As an auto enthusiast I'd like something a little more than that. It bothers me even more that the majority of these owners no nothing and have a bimmer because it's a bimmer not because of the quality of the car or the driving experience.

[80sGuy]

I just smoked a salmon today and the other day, I smoked some marshmallows.

[Charlescrs6]

BMW's are great cars.....but it isn't individual like Audi. When you drive a 3 series you are driving the same cars most high school kids get for their first car along with old people and everyone in between. They are always the "safe bet" when it comes to buying.

When you get an Audi you're part of a more exclusive club IMO. Audi people will usually say hi to other Audi people and know what they bought is special. With BMWs I come across too many retirees, or soccer moms that seem to just buy their 5 series for sake of having a "nice" car only knowing the badge, and thinking that's all that matters.

If I see an old guy drive an Audi, I always think to myself he must be into cars a little. Seriously, owning both....I've had a lot of bad looks in my Z4 even from other BMW owners!! What also sucks is there seems to always be a better Bimmer on the road like the 6 series. If I had a 335i I'd feel like shit compared to an M3, not so with Audis.

I couldn't disagree more. Around here at least, it's all the kids that get 2.0T's as their first cars. Moms are driving BMW's but also A6's and occasionally A4's.

[vwchop]

I couldn't disagree more. Around here at least, it's all the kids that get 2.0T's as their first cars. Moms are driving BMW's but also A6's and occasionally A4's.

lol idk about thay buddy i couldnt agree more with. marcus1701. and i also have a buddy with a chipped 335 coupe and from a 2nd roll id say he puts about 3 or 4 trailer truck lenghs on me by the time he gets to 140ish. but my car is also a 3.2. and iv beat a few 2.0t a4s.

[E46HoodRich]

BMW's are great cars.....but it isn't individual like Audi. When you drive a 3 series you are driving the same cars most high school kids get for their first car along with old people and everyone in between. They are always the "safe bet" when it comes to buying.

When you get an Audi you're part of a more exclusive club IMO. Audi people will usually say hi to other Audi people and know what they bought is special. With BMWs I come across too many retirees, or soccer moms that seem to just buy their 5 series for sake of having a "nice" car only knowing the badge, and thinking that's all that matters.

If I see an old guy drive an Audi, I always think to myself he must be into cars a little. Seriously, owning both....I've had a lot of bad looks in my Z4 even from other BMW owners!! What also sucks is there seems to always be a better Bimmer on the road like the 6 series. If I had a 335i I'd feel like shit compared to an M3, not so with Audis.

what the hell are you talking about??? lmao what exclusive club? ive been part of the bmw community for 6 years.even "soccer moms" and old men driving bmw's give me the thumbs up when they see me on the streets. idk what planet your from.when you buy a bmw your getting a top notch car all around. not only for safety. a 328i will out-perform a b7 in the str8's and twisties (all around).i dont know why you guys think audis are the shIt. lv'e driven my buddies b7 and to be honest. its the same sh!t as my "1999 328i".my car is alot older then a b7 and still manages to out-perform it.
audis are nice cars. down here in miami 60% of the younger girls drive audis.and the real reason why i convinced my buddy to get one is for the girls.not for performance.

if i were to make threads on all the cars i spank AZ will be filled up with


"MY 1999 328i murdered a b7 2.0t."
"MY 1999 328i murdered a b7 2.0t."
"MY 1999 328i murdered a b7 2.0t." hahaha

[Tru NY Player]

i dont know if your 328i could actually beat a 2.0t and i say you race your buddy when you get the chance unless hes modded..

anyway..im agreeing with all the pacifists on the forum and quit being hating ass bashers..

bmw and audi are both great cars..we are exclusive to euro and everyone here in the americas would love to have our cars when they see us in the streets...

petty ass shit.. take it to the track and dont forget your video camera and a witness..

END OF THREAD

[E46HoodRich]

i dont know if your 328i could actually beat a 2.0t and i say you race your buddy when you get the chance unless hes modded..

anyway..im agreeing with all the pacifists on the forum and quit being hating ass bashers..

bmw and audi are both great cars..we are exclusive to euro and everyone here in the americas would love to have our cars when they see us in the streets...

petty ass shit.. take it to the track and dont forget your video camera and a witness..

END OF THREAD

how do you figure? look at edmunds.com the performance is the same except your car weight 300 pounds more then mine.and you go extreme drivetrain loss due to the quattro.
i know for sure a 328i will win cuz i've already raced one.way before you were even thinking bout getting the b7 and still looking at b6's lol.unless the b7 has a chip it has no chance exspecially with quattro.and u forget everyone in my familly has audis.and i've driven all of them lmao i deffinetlly know the difference. + that day we raced when my car was in limp mode. i took of on your car. my car jumped into limp mode thats why i couldnt get out of 2nd gear.but i was gone.

[Tru NY Player]

keep talking that shit..but whos car runs? thought so..
im waiting on YOU to show YOU what the b7s about..

[E46HoodRich]

keep talking that shit..but whos car runs? thought so..
im waiting on YOU to show YOU what the b7s about..

my car runs.if i had the keys i'll show you it runs.lol.i dont have my keys and neighter do you cuz ur parents actually take the car away from u on stupid shit like "no miles" so were even.lmao

"ayo It aint tricking if you got it."

i already know what they about. i've driven/raced/hot-boxed/farted/waxed/and soon when i get my keys ima put it to shame again.ur audi is nice.but the facts prove my beamer out performs it. and its alotttttttt older.
fix it up so you can get on my level cuz ur not going to win if your stock. i already showed you what my car does in limp mode. lmao wait till i get it on the streets. your gonna wanna trade it in.

[E46HoodRich]

your the one talking shit cuz i know damn rite u saw my car take off on yours when we raced. and i was in "limp mode" even justin knows my car is faster just by sitting in it.

[Tru NY Player]

YEAH RIGHT! Wrong as fuck like last night too..and they didnt take away my keys..im not driving it because I dont want to go over the miles otherwise my WARRANTY goes out like ive said a hundred times already..

why the fuck would i drive my car without getting it checked one last time with the warranty? So quit hating biased ass bmw rider

[JMG]

your the one talking shit cuz i know damn rite u saw my car take off on yours when we raced. and i was in "limp mode" even justin knows my car is faster just by sitting in it.

This is what I'm talking about. Do you want a cookie for racing this guy? You win a medal? What exactly did you do that makes you awesome in this case? I don't want to assume anything, but you guys sound really young and you sound like your parents pretty much bought your cars for you. So what do we give you credit for again? Telling your parents what to buy for you? One guy chose A B7, another chose a E46. Here's my point again:

SO WHAT?

They are both pretty much the same price. You could have gotten either car. You got X instead of Y. You guys seem to be relying on your vehicles to prove your worth. Doesn't that sound like a waste of energy? Vehicles can be bought... are you saying your self worth and pride is only as big as your wallet? In that case, ALL S4/RS4/335/M3/M6 etc.. drivers are all better than you. All of them. They are smarter, and more awesome... because their cars are faster.

[E46HoodRich]

funny thing is you never mentioned nothing about my car taking off on yours. so i know for damn sure you saw me take off on you.lmfao.lol.that was my whole point i was tryna make so everyone can see.i dont give a fnck about the rest of the bullsh!t u said.lol

[Tru NY Player]

it didnt..it went limp like a little bitch..i stopped once i seen you not going anywhere..

anyway..

we're pretty much brothers so yeah..i consider theres a rivalry between us..bmw vs audi..one of the oldest ones in the book..

yeah im young and im driving a bad ass car..the same one you old guys have..
f.y.i. bought and paid for myself..

so mr. moderator..lemme get at that cookie..

[E46HoodRich]

This is what I'm talking about. Do you want a cookie for racing this guy? You win a medal? What exactly did you do that makes you awesome in this case? I don't want to assume anything, but you guys sound really young and you sound like your parents pretty much bought your cars for you. So what do we give you credit for again? Telling your parents what to buy for you? One guy chose A B7, another chose a E46. Here's my point again:

SO WHAT?

They are both pretty much the same price. You could have gotten either car. You got X instead of Y. You guys seem to be relying on your vehicles to prove your worth. Doesn't that sound like a waste of energy? Vehicles can be bought... are you saying your self worth and pride is only as big as your wallet? In that case, ALL S4/RS4/335/M3/M6 etc.. drivers are all better than you. All of them. They are smarter, and more awesome... because their cars are faster.

dude he is my freind and im trying to prove a point cuz he should know the difference between cars and i wouldnt expect him to come on here and give me bullshit since he knows my car isnt as slow as he claims.lol when i already showed him plenty of times. i have respect for audi's and its not a contest to see whos cock is bigger. im correcting his mis-represented facts.

o and none of those cars got sh!t on me once i get the 1 series.

[Tru NY Player]

what mis-represented facts?
i thought i already made it clear..audis better than bmw..lol

[E46HoodRich]

it didnt..it went limp like a little bitch..i stopped once i seen you not going anywhere..

anyway..

we're pretty much brothers so yeah..i consider theres a rivalry between us..bmw vs audi..one of the oldest ones in the book..

yeah im young and im driving a bad ass car..the same one you old guys have..
f.y.i. paying the car for myself..


he didnt buy it. but hes IS taking over the payments
i fixed that for you BROTHA! lol

it went limp after i was in front of you. the only reason you got ahead is cuz it went limp.if not i was already in the lead and gone. we'll see sonn and we'll capture it on video for the AZ world.

[E46HoodRich]

what mis-represented facts?
i thought i already made it clear..audis better than bmw..lol

thats mis-representaion of the audi nation. cuz we all know bmw rule europe

[Tru NY Player]

no no.. i think i had it right when i said it..
look at all these guys beating bmws up..lol

[E46HoodRich]

thats cuz all these guys are noobs.[rolleyes]

these are all the experts http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=355178&highlight=audi