My Audi Experience Has Sucked.......

[SickAvant]

This car has been nothing but a headache. I will never purchase another AUDI again, and will let everyone know what I have experienced. So many issues wow.

[Phrost]

So what happened? It's okay, you can share your feelings here [;)]

[dreamcar=rs4]

yes please explain

[autoverruckt]

That's too bad but it certainly happens. I don't want to jinx myself but let me say I would definitely get another Audi. And fortunately for me 2 out of the 3 dealers in my town have been excellent. Good luck with your next ride.

[mal100]

it happens to all car makers some cars just come off the line bad i had a 2005 subaru legacy gt, i had one of the first ones out in pittsburgh and i had to replace the block 3 times and the clutch 4 times and it had under 30k miles i had to replace the oil almost once a month just because it kept leaking it, it was a major hassle, and my family had a bunch of other subaru's before it and never had any problem's, even after all this we got another subaru and weve had no problems with this one so its just bad luck and one rotten apple doesnt spoil the rest

[nSun]

I have to say I'm thinking the same way right now. But I just got a mk2 TT 3.2q and i'm hoping it it doesn't give me the headache my a4 is giving me these days.....

[BWeller]

I bought my first audi 2 months ago and I can't imagine myself driving anything else. It sucks you had a bad experience. I think we all would like some more info on why?

[AudiWxGuy]

I had bad tires when I first got the car. Audi replaced them free of charge after 3 visits to the dealer and since then, the car has been heaven to drive.

[80sGuy]

I had the worst experience in the first 900 miles; anywhere from a failed tail lamp bulb to a rattling/sliding loose bolt that's lodged underneath the carpeting area from mfg defect. Couple visits to the dealer and more than a few hours later, the car's been great since. Not to mention, the car turns LOTS of heads when it is driven, and parked!

[Tgr_Clw]

This car has been nothing but a headache. I will never purchase another AUDI again, and will let everyone know what I have experienced. So many issues wow.

A+ post. Will read again. Thank you for sharing in this much detail.

[bcramer]

A+ post. Will read again. Thank you for sharing in this much detail.

That's what I was thinking...[confused]

Sorry to hear that you have had a bad experience, but as others have said it happens to every make of car.

[ultimatetaba8]

LOL.

Give it a chance, man. If you like the car, that is. I had problems left and right, and was on the verge on lemoning it. Imagine this...my motor had to be replaced within the first month I owned it. [headbang]. It runs flawless right now..*knock on wood*

[supamannn99]

lol one single car cannot determine the fate of the whole entire brand and its other models.

[Slo.Mo.Shun.]

lol one single car cannot determine the fate of the whole entire brand and its other models.

X2.

Since the car had 1k miles it has been moded and driven hard, I have not had any engine or trans issues ("knock on a sequoia tree"). To this day it has been surprisingly reliable. Sure I have had some boost leaks here and there, but I'm asking 200% of the car so I cant complain.

I have only had an ESP issue and a few little things that only a car owner with OCD towards its car can notice (All replaced under warranty). Yet I'm extremely satisfied with the car.

[supamannn99]

Everytime I step into the car, it puts a smile on my face.

[davis449]

I had a problem Mercedes. That car was just a bad one. I would probably buy another if I didn't like my Audi so much.

[Quigaboo]

This car has been nothing but a headache. I will never purchase another AUDI again, and will let everyone know what I have experienced. So many issues wow.

Well thought out and organized thread. Thanks to you I will not only never purchase and Audi again, I have just filed a lawsuit against Audi demanding they take my car back now and refund me all the monies I have spent thus far. When they asked why, I said "beacuse SickAvant said they were bad cars that are nothing but a headache"

[LimiTed]

A+ post. Will read again. Thank you for sharing in this much detail.

LOL seriously. this is almost as bad as the people who post with mysterious thread titles.

[Rotond0000]

LOL.

Give it a chance, man. If you like the car, that is. I had problems left and right, and was on the verge on lemoning it. Imagine this...my motor had to be replaced within the first month I owned it. [headbang]. It runs flawless right now..*knock on wood*

same here...i had a ton of problems and i still have some....but i love the car too much to get rid of it...and its doing just fine now....several trips to the dealerhsip can be a pain but i gave it a good chance and things are alright *knock n wood also*

[Louis J.]

A+ post. Will read again. Thank you for sharing in this much detail.

+1. Thanks for wasting people's time with this thread.

[EuroA4]

Thanks for sharing. Maybe your username has something to do with it?

[davis449]

+1. Thanks for wasting people's time with this thread.

Wait now, hold on. This thread has already turned itself around. Instead of us arguing about his uninformative, waste-of-time post, most of us are touting how few problems we have with our Audi's and how happy we are that we bought/own them.[;)][:D]

[LampyB]

dude you bought a lemon. don't get bitter about it, but you stand just as much of a chance at getting another lemon from any other car company out there. don't sit there and cry about it, just get a different audi with a solid history.

[kepone]

I can sort of feel what the OP is feeling though..

We in the Vw/Audi community are so used to the little parts that break all the time that we forget that you dont have issues like that with most other manufacturers. It is amazing to me how replacing coilpacks and MAF's twice a year has become acceptable and commonplace and almost a bragging right within our community.

VWAG products just aren't reliable, they are great to drive, great interiors, etc but when it comes to overall product reliability for ANY VWAG model, they are full of fail compared to the japanese competition.

The Audi dealership experience leaves a lot to be desired too.

Also, the reliability in the first 2 years of production in any VWAG model is always highly questionable, they never seem to fully work the bugs out until the 3rd year in.

I'll put it to you this way, i love my audi despite the problems it has given me in under 1 year of ownership ( same with my VW before it ), but i would NEVER recommend that my Mother buy's one.

[Vito Roma]

Thanks For Giving Us Details!!

[windextor]

hmm...i have owned 3 and loved every second in all of them completely regardless of coil packs...there is no way I will willingly leave audi...and I even convinced my mom to get a Q7 and she loves the hell out of it...they have been awesome for my family and the people at hoehn audi are all extremely nice and willing to help out wherever possible...

[B7A4Sport]

Everytime I step into the car, it puts a smile on my face.

YEH-YA! [:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

I just had dinner with my father last night, and even he had to call me while we parted ways on the free-way in our own cars to tell me how he wishes he had mine instead of his Benz! Muahahahahahaha [evilsmile]

[A4addict]

I have sex with my car every night:

All you need is a lot of lube, a couple of cans of fully synthetic oil, Bon Jovi CD's, a CD player, strawberry scented candles and a picture of your 3rd grade Math teacher: good to go!

[Scott Evil]

^^ You know I can almost picture that--which makes me throw up a little bit, inside my mouth.

[barkerd427]

kepone - Do you really know what you are talking about? Your statement of reliability at best is outdated. Also, most other cars have some sort of common failure item. Even your coveted "japanese competition" has had problems and still do. Do your homework.

[INTEGRATION]

There's no use being EMO if you're not gonna tell us what's wrong. As far as I'm concerned you could have a lemon...which a problem that can be solved without being emo on the forum.

[SGVA4]

before we all shove crap done kepone's throat he is making a good point. My family has owned a fair share of Japanese/German automobiles.

We never had problems with: 92 Acura Integra GSR, 95 Honda Accord EX, 98 Lexus ES300 and 05 Nissan 350Z

But we had alot of minor engine and computer board failure with:

98 BMW 525i, 01 Mercedes Benz C280 and most recently my moms 05 BMW X5.


Since I gave up my Z for an Audi, it took a lot of researchin' on the reliability before I bought one. The A4 have improved over the years but is it as reliable and trouble free as a Lexus IS350 or Infinity G35? I do not think so...

[4-tified]

before we all shove crap done kepone's throat he is making a good point. My family has owned a fair share of Japanese/German automobiles.

We never had problems with: 92 Acura Integra GSR, 95 Honda Accord EX, 98 Lexus ES300 and 05 Nissan 350Z

But we had alot of minor engine and computer board failure with:

98 BMW 525i, 01 Mercedes Benz C280 and most recently my moms 05 BMW X5.


Since I gave up my Z for an Audi, it took a lot of researchin' on the reliability before I bought one. The A4 have improved over the years but is it as reliable and trouble free as a Lexus IS350 or Infinity G35? I do not think so...

There are cars with a bit less trouble per 100 vehicles, and some that have more. The majority fall within a small that separates them.

Go to a Lexus site or Infiniti or even Honda and you'll read people complaining there as well.
There are simply people who can not accept even the slightest issue happening to their car.

It's not fair to lump ALL problems that have happened on any given A4, and then say that any A4 will have all those problems.
There are some A4's that have failed coilpacks, MUCH less so with the B7.
There are some that have camshaft issues relating to fuel pump problems.
However, overall there are very very few A4's that have all those issues.

Most cars will have some issue that will need dealer attention, and that's the reality. Paying more for a car does NOT equate to having less problems. It simply means that greater care was put into providing better materials along with perhaps better overall design.
I will say that most higher priced vehicles, especially German cars, do look a lot better even with age. The build materials tend to still look good even 10 years down the road. I can't say that for a lot of mainstream American or Japanese cars.

[kepone]

We just have to face the facts man.. we don't drive the most reliable cars out there. I would still take an Audi over a Honda, but i will never be so fanboyish as to not admit the glaring faults of the VW products that we all love so much.

For Example-

My Mother has owned a 2001 Accord EX since that car was first released, that car is driven by someone that does not maintain it at all, she takes it to the dealership maybe once every 40k miles, does oil changes maybe every 10k and uses the cheapest oil that Jiffy Lube offers.. Never serviced the gearbox.. that car has been driven all over the country, in all climates, also to Mexico and Canada and etc ( she is a road trip junky ), that car now has just under 200,000 miles, and she just had her first real mechanical problem- It was rear ended by a drunk driver..She got it patched up by some shitty body shop in Baltimore, and it's good as new again.. No mechanical failure whatsoever..

Do you guys think that any Audi made in the last 20 years could do that? I highly doubt it

My Aunt ( Mom's sister, she lives in Philly ) has a Camry, i think it's a 1999, she bought it new, She commutes from Philly to Baltimore every other day for work, also does not maintain her car at all, her car has just over 150,000 miles on it now, and just had it's first mechanical problem, a simple alternator change, which i did in 30 minutes on the side of i95 on new years eve, parts totalling under $130 from pep boys after the core charge. This car is still on it's original spark plugs, it was never taken to the dealership after 10k miles. The car still runs smooth and strong.

Can you honestly say that an Audi/VW or even a modern mercedes or bmw can do that?

These things are commonplace in the JDM world and even in the american car world.. You just can not kill a Chevy Cavalier, or a Saturn.. Seriously, just try to do it LOL..their interiors fall apart, but the car's just won't leave you stranded unless it's a dead battery or something..

Regardless of that i will always choose a german car, Japanese cars are totally soul-less to drive and the ones that drive well are buzzy and harsh and outright fatiguing to drive for long periods of time.

VW's and Audi's of this generation are much better than they were even as recently as 2000, but still they pale in comparison to the reliability of the average Japanese car.

My mom also just bought a fully loaded 08 Accord, very nice ride, i fully expect it to be as reliable as the older one she still has.

I'm not trying to bash Audi or start a flame war, i do own one after all, but you just have to face reality guys. I'm now on my second VWAG car, I do meticulously maintain my rides, and I have had way more issues than truthfully anyone i know with a JDM car, especially Honda and Toyota ( I'll admit that Mitsubishi's are pieces of shit, especially the new ones )

[kepone]

Oh, I would still love to know what the OP's actual issues were.

[autoverruckt]

We just have to face the facts man.. we don't drive the most reliable cars out there. I would still take an Audi over a Honda, but i will never be so fanboyish as to not admit the glaring faults of the VW products that we all love so much....



Holy long post batman! But I agree - owned 7 Japanese cars all with steller reliability but relatively boring. Then I drove a German car and it was game over. If I settle down and keep a car for more than 5 years it will be Japanese.

[Noffy]

This isn't a real audi owner, this guy is a bmw owner or somthing, he hasn't even posted back.. He is just trying to get us audi loving fools panties in a bunch. And from the looks of this thread it has work. Lets just lock this thread and be done with it.

[ItsThat2.0T]

what a troll topic

[AvantNoir]

Thanks for the great post SickAvant http://rdefined.com/phpbb/images/smiles/s.gifhttp://rdefined.com/phpbb/images/smiles/bs.gif

[supamannn99]

i have a feeling that the OP isn't going to return to this thread :D

[barkerd427]

I could also tell stories of my families problems with Honda's and Toyota's. Several of my friends have also had problems. And I know of many uber-reliable VAG cars also. Our cars may be less reliable than some Japanese models, but I am sure that they are more reliable than some of the Honda's and Toyota's. If you take a look at some of the long-term test cars that magazines review, you will see that those cars have many problems also. I don't think the problems were usually with the engine like our cars, but some of the problems would have been more annoying and a few were reocurring problems.

[chlubb]

but I still like chicks :)
sorry, couldnt resist.

I have had 4 Audis - 0 problems
Brothers had 5 VW's - 0 problems
Other brother had 3 Hondas - minor stupid probs on each from bad paint, sensors, engine malf.

In the end, you can find the same opposite list I am sure, they are all nearly the same these days at this quality level from what I have seen, some have dumb probs, some dont.

[OceanBlueB7]

We just have to face the facts man.. we don't drive the most reliable cars out there. I would still take an Audi over a Honda, but i will never be so fanboyish as to not admit the glaring faults of the VW products that we all love so much.

For Example-

My Mother has owned a 2001 Accord EX since that car was first released, that car is driven by someone that does not maintain it at all, she takes it to the dealership maybe once every 40k miles, does oil changes maybe every 10k and uses the cheapest oil that Jiffy Lube offers.. Never serviced the gearbox.. that car has been driven all over the country, in all climates, also to Mexico and Canada and etc ( she is a road trip junky ), that car now has just under 200,000 miles, and she just had her first real mechanical problem- It was rear ended by a drunk driver..She got it patched up by some shitty body shop in Baltimore, and it's good as new again.. No mechanical failure whatsoever..

Do you guys think that any Audi made in the last 20 years could do that? I highly doubt it

My Aunt ( Mom's sister, she lives in Philly ) has a Camry, i think it's a 1999, she bought it new, She commutes from Philly to Baltimore every other day for work, also does not maintain her car at all, her car has just over 150,000 miles on it now, and just had it's first mechanical problem, a simple alternator change, which i did in 30 minutes on the side of i95 on new years eve, parts totalling under $130 from pep boys after the core charge. This car is still on it's original spark plugs, it was never taken to the dealership after 10k miles. The car still runs smooth and strong.

Can you honestly say that an Audi/VW or even a modern mercedes or bmw can do that?

These things are commonplace in the JDM world and even in the american car world.. You just can not kill a Chevy Cavalier, or a Saturn.. Seriously, just try to do it LOL..their interiors fall apart, but the car's just won't leave you stranded unless it's a dead battery or something..

Regardless of that i will always choose a german car, Japanese cars are totally soul-less to drive and the ones that drive well are buzzy and harsh and outright fatiguing to drive for long periods of time.

VW's and Audi's of this generation are much better than they were even as recently as 2000, but still they pale in comparison to the reliability of the average Japanese car.

My mom also just bought a fully loaded 08 Accord, very nice ride, i fully expect it to be as reliable as the older one she still has.

I'm not trying to bash Audi or start a flame war, i do own one after all, but you just have to face reality guys. I'm now on my second VWAG car, I do meticulously maintain my rides, and I have had way more issues than truthfully anyone i know with a JDM car, especially Honda and Toyota ( I'll admit that Mitsubishi's are pieces of shit, especially the new ones )

Every 'reliable' car that you just mentioned, has the complexity of a VW beetle. What do you expect? Of course they're bulletproof. They're built like a jeep. I'll take the VAG design goals and executions every damnned day over ANYthing Japanese. My car may strand me someday, but that's why I have roadside assistance! [drive]

[80sGuy]

Regarding a new car: If there are symptoms that's associated with its little problems, find the fault and take care of it right away and it'll take care of you in the long run. Also, if you're going to mod your ride to the max, you're bound to have problems sooner or later - no one can blame you.

Used cars are a bit different because you don't really know until the problem arises and in what extended time it has been prolonged from the previous owner(s). I previously owned an '83 Porsche 944 (used) and it ran great...until a few months later, the thing started to nickel and diming me to near death, after a four year period and $6500 later (yes, nickels and dimes do add up), it didn't felt like it and it felt more like a hobby and I was constantly enjoying the works that I was putting in to it, at the end, it all added up and I finally got rid of it.
I personally knew of others that owns the same type of car, but their problems, if any, were nothing compared to mine and are much more reliable. I guess the previous owner haven't a clue as to maintaining a car.

Japanese makes are more reliable, but they do tend to have their little problems too and often times they are usually a quick and easy fix. If that's your concern, then I think it's time to visit your local Honda dealer and trade in your A4 for..say a Civic or something. I'm sure the salesmen on the floor would kill to steal that trade of yours in no time.
But I wouldn't trade in all the fun for something that can be remedied, or reliable and boring. Have a 'Honda' with an Audi, but don't just have a Honda.

[chlubb]

Do you guys think that any Audi made in the last 20 years could do that? I highly doubt it


Yes I do and had one. i had a 1987 Audi 4000q, an utter tank. 250k miles without anything but regular maintenance. It was my winter beater.

Ever seen what people do to the 20vt, more reliable at ultra tuned levels than most engines today. Granted, i think the older cars were more reliable since they were simpler and there was less electronic gadgetry.

The 1974-87 Mercedes 300SL convertible was one of the most reliable cars ever, engines would go 500k without a rebuild, check the antique car review guides.

BTW, check the Honda forums on the 01-06 Accord (i think, dont quote me on the exact year), there was a TSB for cracked engine blocks, it was common on the V6, boy talk about an ISSUE!

A few quotes here and there cant tell the story, all in all I have beaten my fair share of german cars with no problems and my brothers Hondas and Acuras had issues (tranny on S2K, paint on MDX as well as electronics, engine on Civic R).

BTW, as for the American car Cavalier quote, I had a 96 Tahoe, it lasted 1 year before the 4wd, tranny and transfer case needed replacing from very light off-road use.

As I said above, there are stories on each side and the grass always looks greener on the other side but all in all, the cars today are neck in neck in issue areas, some companies have their issues in one area or another but all are at fault.

Remember those JDpower reports never show anyone with 0 issues per 100 cars, its usually X had 90/100 and X #2 had 95 with the worst being usually 140/100cars so everyone seems to be around an average of each car could have a reportable problem in some way shape or form.

[quattro.it]

You're right... I'd dump it for a Camry I were you.

[tribe]

... and will let everyone know what I have experienced...


Start with us please[;)]

[LadyHawk]

LOL. Funny thread. Random. I have an Audi sitting in my parking lot with a possible sludge issue that may not be fixed by the dealer for various reasons. And she will continue to sit until I can get her running, I don't care how long it takes. I would STILL N E V E R buy anything but an Audi again. I became a life time Audi owner on my test drive! I also have a beater of a VW (2001 Jetta GL with serious issues) and it gets my family where we need to go. Seeing as my 6 year old plans a Bugati as his 1st car I'd say we are in this for the long haul. For the record, prior to this we had 4 Japanese cars, only one didn't have a serious and pretty much car ending malfunction, and don't even let me get started on Pontiac.

[80sGuy]

LOL. Funny thread. Random. I have an Audi sitting in my parking lot with a possible sludge issue that may not be fixed by the dealer for various reasons. And she will continue to sit until I can get her running, I don't care how long it takes. I would STILL N E V E R buy anything but an Audi again. I became a life time Audi owner on my test drive! I also have a beater of a VW (2001 Jetta GL with serious issues) and it gets my family where we need to go. Seeing as my 6 year old plans a Bugati as his 1st car I'd say we are in this for the long haul. For the record, prior to this we had 4 Japanese cars, only one didn't have a serious and pretty much car ending malfunction, and don't even let me get started on Pontiac. Never use the word 'NEVER' again unless you can handle the consequences of its outcome.

[lfloodt]

i'm on my 3rd A4. 1st one, b5 2.8q, had it until 135k no major problems until i totaled it.

2nd one, b5 2.8q, 170k, minor issues(control arms, coolant temp sensor) and that's it until I sold it.

I put miles and miles on these cars and was nothing but satisfied.

3rd one, B6 avant just bought in december, coil pack issue but the dealer fixed it for free the day it happened under Audi warranty.

plus you can't beat Audi/german styling! audi for life!

[CX-7&A4]

The only real problem I've had is with interior trim, some pieces are degrading.

Oh and the CVT has 7 preselected gears, not six. [:)]


6Spd Multitronic CVT

[80sGuy]

Yes, I meant to say 7 preset 'virtual' gears. I am still stuck on some of the previous models that I've encountered.
Thanx for the noting.

[SilverB7FL]

I think there is also a different group of people on the forums, we actually care about our cars and will make sure everything is 100% right on them b/c of that. I've had my audi into the dealership countless times for things "normal" ppl wouldn't even notice b/c I care about my car. Back when I didn't give a crap other then if it got me from point A to B and was clean I never brought it in unless something caused it not to get to point A to B.

[kepone]

I find it funny that some people are referring to Hondas and Toyotas as " simple vehicles".. Honda after all is the company that invented Variable Valve Timing and had it on vehicles almost a decade before anyone else. 8000 rpm redline in a sub 20k car? Yep, honda did that first too..Highest specific hp/liter output in a production car in all of automotive history? Yep, Honda ( that car is reliable as a glacier too, thats the S2000 at 120 hp/liter NA )

Don't mistake reliable for Simple.. Just because our cars have " superior german engineering " does not make them any more reliable.

As far as the person with the rock solid 87 audi, I did say the past 20 Years LOL, that would be 21.

Audi has knowingly engineered parts that break regularly to make more money from it's customers, there is no other reason why Coilpacks and MAF's still fail constantly even though these problems have been reported by just about every Audi owner for almost 10 years. Same goes for the CVT gearboxes, center diff's in some quattro cars, peeling interior buttons, ripping diverter valves, leaky valve cover gaskets and etc.. You just don't see those issues on Japanese cars.

Again, just face reality. And again, regardless of the issues i will stick with german cars forever.

My Audi has spent way more time at the dealership than just about any vehicle i have ever owned.

I think that if you guys really searched for long term reliability reports, you won't see any VWAG products in the top 20 manufacturers, despite the fact that they always win awards for " initial build quality".

I hope you guys dont think im trying to bash or flame anyone or any manufacturer, i just want to make sure that all fanboyism is set aside and people merely acknowledge the truth.

The OP is still a douschenozzle.

[CX-7&A4]

I wouldn't call a CVT a gearbox but, The other CVT's(Murano) have had serious problems, nissan in general, everyone around me that's owned one has had problems, either a lemon, it catching on fire, etc. The 2005 Honda Oddy is seriously unreliable.

The S2K is a torqueless little thing, it can have all the HP it want's but Honda's engines still feel bland but easy revving.

The RX-8 has 238HP(torqueless, but making this power through a Manual) from a 1.3L Rotary with a Maximum RPM of 9000, now that's engineering, it is a gas guzzling oil burner, the gas guzzling part is going to be fixed though with the 2nd gen rotary.

Certain things that you've mentioned have been replaced under warranty for most.

[kepone]

I wouldn't call a CVT a gearbox but, The other CVT's(Murano) have had serious problems, nissan in general, everyone around me that's owned one has had problems, either a lemon, it catching on fire, etc. The 2005 Honda Oddy is seriously unreliable.

The S2K is a torqueless little thing, it can have all the HP it want's but Honda's engines still feel bland but easy revving.

The RX-8 has 238HP(torqueless, but making this power through a Manual) from a 1.3L Rotary with a Maximum RPM of 9000, now that's engineering, it is a gas guzzling oil burner, the gas guzzling part is going to be fixed though with the 2nd gen rotary.

Certain things that you've mentioned have been replaced under warranty for most.

As far as the Honda Oddy, i dont know anything about the newest year ones, but ive got a couple of friends/family members that have older ones and they have been flawless for the most part, though one of my cousins with a Toyota Sienna did have a side airbag spontaneously deploy on her once though, DOH!

As far as the S2k being a gutless/torqueless thing, it will still beat any audi short of a rs4 or r8 on a road course. If you keep that engine on boil, it is an amazingly fast track car, keep it off boil and it's an easy to drive ultra reliable gas sipper.


As far as the RX8 being torqueless also, the same applies, you keep that car in the powerband and it will match a e46 m3's laptime , as top gear proved in season 6 or 7. As far as better engineering and getting that much power out of a 1.3 liter, you can not calculate a rotary's displacement the same way you calculate a piston based engine. As any rotary expert will tell you, the displacement at rest and in motion are different, in motion a 1.3 rotary is more like a 2.6 liter, and even still that is not fully accurate. The Rotary will never have good mileage, or be reliable due to it's basic design. While fuel economy and reliability are not the strong points of any rotary, it does have other strongpoints, like nearly zero engine vibration, no theoretical redline, and they take to forced induction really well ( BTW, the rotary engine pre-dates most piston engine designs for those of you that don't know, also on another note did you guys know that SOHC and DOHC engines predate OHV engines? Contrary to belief, OHV is newer technology lol, go GM! )


The one thing i really don't get is why no japanese manufacturer seems to be able to build an interior as nice as an Audi, even on their lux cars like Lexus. They are always overstated and gaudy and not as solid feeling as Audi, case in point the Acura RL- that thing's dashboard looks like it came out of a shuttlecraft from the starship Enterprise.

http://image.automotive.com/f/miscellaneous/2008-acura-rl-is-hi-tech-luxury-priced-affordably/7165585+w630+cr1+re0+ar1/2008-acura-rl-interiorjpg.jpg

I mean seriously, that center stack looks like someone crammed a mid 90's compaq presario in there.

[Tiesto]

What is it with japanese cars and massive goofy looking knobs in the center console...

[chlubb]

hey guys, i think everyone missed the point. there are still incredible generalizations that german cards are unreliable and japanese are 100% reliable. I thought I had given plenty of example as others have that we arent getting anywhere.
Also, the point that Audi knowingly engineered bad parts is almost on the side of conspiracy theory. What I think is better said is that they didnt fix the parts they new were troublesome when they should have, we can all agree on that.

MAF fixes across the board would be nice, but we gotta hit Bosch at their chinese factory level to bring up the quality. Since the Japanese use Chinese made MAF's as well, whats the deal?

Again, Porsche is #1 on JDP, not that we care about JDP but long term as well they are up there. In the Euro mags, VW consistently as a company places at the top and the Golf is the #1 sold car in Europe and was the world I believe (may have changed).

To me, if the Germans could fix a few nigling problems that are usually eletrical in nature, no one would complain any further but for some reason these stupid recurring issues like MAFs, coilpacks, etc have brought a huge stigma against them as being overly unreliable in some circles.

As was said above, most of us here dont buy our cars to glue the hoods shut and hope for the best but would most likely head these issues off before they hit with update parts and consider it done.

Again, this is from someone with 600,000 miles of combined VW/Audi/MB ownership experience and never 1 of those mentioned problems.

[A4_cabrio]

Thought about replying to SickAvant - but decided he doesnt deserve more than one line.
Try to guess my answer

[Rotond0000]

i dont think hes gonna come back to even read this ... i mean he did say that he doesnt want anything to do with audis ever again....

LLOOOOOSSAHH

[chlubb]

agreed, enough said.
i love my cars, no need to make everyone.
this dead horse just comes up so often from misguided people that just like to complain.

[B7...kyle...A4]

this guy just had a bit of bad luck boo hoo! ah wel there gotta be atleast one person out of all the millions of audi lovers/owners that has a problem.

[Quigaboo]

This was a great thread. Almost as good as the guy who wanted free stuff for his brand new A4.