S4 vs RSX Type-S

[DefiantS4]

For the record, I don't condone organized street racing... when I have a score to settle with someone, it's done at the track or on a deserted road with just the two of us.

We've got a girl here with an RSX Type-S who claims to be running 13s in the 1/4, with nothing but boltons and tuning. She stands by her claim, and every time I've said something even remotely questioning it she gets defensive and sometimes violent[rolleyes]. Is it even possible for this car to run 13s without nitrous or another power adder?

Right now it looks like she'll be running against my stock '01.5 S4. Any predictions? Do you guys think she's full of it too? I will make her go from a dead stop... nobody runs from a roll at the track[:p].

[VRsic]

You will win.

[BoostTed]

Originally posted by DefiantS4
For the record, I don't condone organized street racing... when I have a score to settle with someone, it's done at the track or on a deserted road with just the two of us.

We've got a girl here with an RSX Type-S who claims to be running 13s in the 1/4, with nothing but boltons and tuning. She stands by her claim, and every time I've said something even remotely questioning it she gets defensive and sometimes violent[rolleyes]. Is it even possible for this car to run 13s without nitrous or another power adder?

Right now it looks like she'll be running against my stock '01.5 S4. Any predictions? Do you guys think she's full of it too? I will make her go from a dead stop... nobody runs from a roll at the track[:p].

define bolt on's, simple intake and exhaust or does she have internal work done like cams, high compression pistons, port and polish etc...

if you are worried about losing run at a high altitude track, you will have the advantage there.

oh yea forgot to add my friend runs 13.4 at 10X.X with just bolt ons so it is possible for a civic/integ/rsx to run in the 13's without the bottle or FI

[Kevin]

RSX-S are pretty damn fast with basic bolt ons. And if she has had tuning as well then its not unbelievable she can run high 13's.

its pretty restricted as a stock motor, and can unleash some beastly power.

[EVIL-AUDI]

Get a chip, then it's over.

[D0WNxSH1FT]

13's w/ just bolt ons? if shes just I/H/E, ull win. stock RSX-S runs a low 15. if shes got Hondata (ECU reflash) thats another story, but i have no doubt that your stock S4 will win, just dont mess up the launch.

[cj-S4]

Who really cares, you are driving and Audi, she is driving a Honda, end of discusion.

With that said, chip your car, then most cars out there won't even come close to it.

[D0WNxSH1FT]

Originally posted by cj-S4
Who really cares, you are driving and Audi, she is driving a Honda, end of discusion.

With that said, chip your car, then most cars out there won't even come close to it.
be nice, what if she was driving an NSX.[rolleyes] at the track no one cares about brands, its about #s, torque and acceleration.

[DefiantS4]

She has a decent list of mods.... ones that I remember are a DC header, Greddy catback, and the Hondata programming. My roommate who had a low 13-sec Cobra rode with her once and said it was not 13-sec material... we'll just have to wait and see. A stock S4 will run high 13s/low 14s, correct? If she's not BSing it should be a close run.

I'm really not that worried about it. If I lose, more power to her. I'm just trying to have some fun with her[:D]

[indica]

Originally posted by EVIL-AUDI
Get a chip, then it's over.


agreed, throw an x-chip in and grab some salsa! its snack time!

[Ben@SpeedBarn]

Yeah I beat a typeS at the track. All I had was a chipped 1.8t and it was super hot. He had an intake. I heard exhausts don't help those cars too much. They only have 140 ft lbs and a lot of the exhuasts out there lose torque to gain a little HP. I don't know what the hondata can do but it would take a decent amount to catch up to s4 speed i would think.

With no internal work i would bet on the S4. A chipped S4 I would say definately.

[D0WNxSH1FT]

Hondata is key to RSX tuning. i still dont think shes gonna keep up w/ an S4. there 6.7sec cars stock, S4 is a 5.4sec car. plus she might not drive that well. oh and i wouldnt go by the mustang's "feelings" cause the RSX rides like a Jeep compared to a Mustang, so obviously it felt slower.

[ZzzzingZing]

I would think that the S4 would crush the RSX-s. I walked one of those in my GLI 16v, which was admittedly worked over, but none-the-less.... Given the grip and power, you should be able to row that boat right past her. [:D]

[[]D[][]V[][]D]

Originally posted by VRsic
You will win.

Well said my friend-well said.

[2.7Thai]

Taking nothing away from Acura, I use to have an GSR myself, wouldn't it be kind of a silly race to get into? If you win, you just beat an Acura(whcih in S4 terms, is not exactly something to write home about) and if you lose, then you just lost to an Acura which is definately nothing to write home about. So I dont see the point in this. But if we are dicussing this for fun , then I think you can take her, especially at a dead stop lauch. She will lay rubber while your heavy lowend torque will drive all four of your wheels to a pretty nice lead. The Quattro is not just there for the snow...

[Vtec_Killer]

My TIP 01 S4 rocks RSXs all day long. Only forced induction or NAWZ will give those cars a prayer.

But like cj-S4 said, you drive an Audi...who cares?

[jones3000]

Is she cute? If not, don't waste your time. If she is, tell her to flash you if she loses.[:D] That'll show if she's B-sing or not.

[Act of God]

audi=vw
acura=honda

I can see the preference to german cars, but its pretty much the same.

[Ben@SpeedBarn]

similar...but in japan an rsx really is a Honda but in germany an s4 is still an audi

[D0WNxSH1FT]

in japan the Honda Integra Type R (DC5-R...better than our DC5-S) is the worlds fastest Front Engine FWD car, running a 14.0 1/4mi w/ 220hp. Acura's are just rebadged Honda's, just like Infiniti is a rebadged Nissan, and Toyota w/ Lexus, etc. VW bought/merged w/ Audi, it didnt create Audi (Auto Union).

[EVIL-AUDI]

Well said.

[DefiantS4]

Well, it's over.

I didn't actually race her with the S4, my roommate did. I was in my other car, a 96 Impala SS clone with a decent list of modifications. We started off the night by running both my cars against each other... to my surprise they were dead even. I then figured I'd humiliate her even more by racing her with the big 4400# purple blob[:p]. We managed to get the RSX in between both cars when we ran.... and it was hilarious. From a stop, I was 2 car lengths ahead by 60mph (we didn't go past 60). She then wanted to go from 20 since that was her strong point... let's just say we gangbanged the poor girl[:D].

[D0WNxSH1FT]

good kill??? so is she cute? **this thread is useless w/o pics**

[creep]

nice run. but did you get her number?

[quattroanillos5]

if you launch your car right i don't think she'll be able to catch up in the quarter..... but depending on her bolt ons she might give you a good run for your money..... I had my crx with the b18c1 swap with bolt ons running mid to low 13's......

[buck]

Originally posted by D0WNxSH1FT
13's w/ just bolt ons? if shes just I/H/E, ull win. stock RSX-S runs a low 15. if shes got Hondata (ECU reflash) thats another story, but i have no doubt that your stock S4 will win, just dont mess up the launch.

my buddies RSX-S ran a 14.8 STOCK. Chip that thing and get it breathing better - and low 14's to high 13's is feasible.

BTW: who the heck does rolling starts? An acceleration race starts from a dead stop.... rolling starts are for people who can't launch.

[DefiantS4]

Originally posted by buck
rolling starts are for people who can't launch.

That's what I told her and she got pissy[:D]. Drag racing isn't done from a roll.

I wouldn't say she's that hot, but she's got huge knockers for a short girl. And I've always had her # [;)]

[MR VTEC]

she wanted to roll because vtec engages at a higher rpm and honda aren't known for torque

[indica]

Originally posted by buck
rolling starts are for people who can't launch.

yeah that and those of us with already overly abused stock clutches! [:D]

a chipped s4 and some 100 octane will do wonders to the stock clutch. [eek]

[EuroTall]

well all the speculation should end here.
I raced my friend in his RSX not too long ago in Stock mode in my 01.5 S4.....and walked it decently.
then I got the x chip and it's not even close anymore.

Now, I give him a 'quick' 1 mississippi count head start and still KILL it at the end of the 1/4....i'll do 2 mississippis next time... then it might be close.

proven experience right here. Yes my friends RSx is modded but only slightly...exhaust and intake...he needs that Hondata program if he's gonna even dream about NOT seeing my tail lights...

I still dont think he'll have anything to worry me with the Hondata programming.

[MR VTEC]

does ur friend have a type s because the 2 cars are different

[DRA4]

What is wrong with these girls bragging about their Acuras beating S4s, same thing happend to me, this girl in her integra LS bragging about beating my bro's S4, i just laugh in her face, guess what she don't speak to me no more, talk about being a sore looser, she can't even beat my 2.8.

[madrussian]

Umm... RSX Type-S isnt all that fast.

My buddy's Civic Si w/ custom Headers, AEM Intake, and Apexi N-1 ran my buddy w/ an RSX who has an Injen intake and they were dead even w/ the Si winning 2 of 3 runs.

And the Si only pulls a car length or so on me in the 1/4, and I'm a fatass B6.

So long story short, I think that if you know how to drive and shift right, you should be able to beat or at the very least stay even w/ an RSX.

[Keven1.8T]

I know a rsx-s that did 14.2 or so on the 1/4 mile. The car was stock with about 150-200 pounds of weight reduction.

[audia]

so...was the driver staring at his stop watch while doing this? or was there someone sitting on the passenger seat counting 1 mississippi, 2 mississippi, etc..?[rolleyes]

RSX type-s are pretty fast...and yes, reducing weight makes a car faster..but a full second??

[Keven1.8T]

Yes, integra type R can do the 1/4 mile in 14.4 stock.
Rsx-s are a little slower stock, but with weight reduction they can be impressive.

[Ben@SpeedBarn]

Cutting off almost a second from the 1/4 mile time would definately take more than losing 150-200lbs.

[D0WNxSH1FT]

2002+ Integra Type R can do 1/4mi in 14.0sec flat. its the worlds fastest FF car.

[SEXICÄN]

I raced a RSX-s up a 1 mile hill and i took him. All i am is chipped and the only mods i could tell was intake on his car. We started off as him in front of me and the road came into 3 lanes and we took off. He barely stayed in front of me but once i hit 2nd gear it was over.

[D0WNxSH1FT]

Hills = Honda Death. we dont have the torque. but at a drag strip the RSX-S should have no problem taking down a low 8sec A4. (referring to stock)

...its hard to compare modded cars cus you dont know how much HP are getting to the wheels, unless u dyno, and even then u dont know if everything is running correctly, rich, lean, or if the parts that are installed work well together.

[Act of God]

Thats the worst part about them, the utter lack of torque. It made me swear off 4 bangers forever.

It is fun, however, to beat the piss out of those little VTech engines

[D0WNxSH1FT]

RSX has i-VTEC. (new version of old VTEC)

VTech is a telephone.

i love 4bangers, especially turbo'd 4bangers...evo drool.

[SEXICÄN]

Yeah, the whole torque problem is why i never went with a honda even throughtout highschool. I remember when i had an MR2 MKII that i killed this 97ish Civic vtec with every bolt on and i was stock. I love turbo even though its a little hard to hear mine[:(]

[audia]

MKIIs..actually, MR2s are seriously under-rated. Can't really compare it with civics.[:D]

Some girls use to open my front hood and say, "where's the engine?" and i'd say, "it's an electric vehicle. it doesn't have an engine." and they'd be like..."oh, wow...cool." [:D]

[audia]

warning - offtopic:

downxsh1ft: it seems like you know your hondas, so i wanted to ask...is the civic type-r coming to the US? also, is there any good forums for the ep3?

[D0WNxSH1FT]

Civic Type R...i havent heard that it is coming here, and i doubt that it would b/c it would take away from EP3, and DC5 (RSX) sales. There are rumors of the S2000 being discontinued and the CRX coming back.

clubSI.com might be good, im not really sure. im at work and my ClubRSX message board is blocked, if it wasnt i could search it for which EP3 boards are good. (you could try it, www.clubrsx.com you dont have to be a member to search i dont think, you'd def find a good site, soo many people post on CRSX). If your really considering the EP3 is say get an RSX, unless money is an issue, just personal preference.

[audia]

Actually, this is my friend's car..and he'll be pist as hell if the type-r comes to the US. hehe..
I told him about clubsi.com, but it seems like they don't have much info on the hatchbacks..just the previous model coupes.

I remember reading in Motortrend or some other automotive magazine saying Honda got the "ok" from Acura. Does that even make sense, though? It's like giving yourself the "ok." heh..

[dubking26]

not for nothing but dont sleep on a honda.Thats where most of you guys get things totally wrong. I own a mid 12 sec a4,my cousin has a s4 with chip and exhaust and was only able to run a 13.5 et. so think twice before you go running this chick.
infact my best friend rsx runs low 11's turbocharged and managed a 12.98 before going turbo.