My engine build part 2 - swain tech coated parts

[winston@podi.ca]

I finally got my exhaust manifold, turbine housing and downpipe back from Swain Tech with their White Lightning ceramic coating on them.

The coating is pretty thick and is very gritty to the touch.

Now that the parts are installed it's time to break in the new clutch and engine and see if this reduces heat as advertised.

http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_2993.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_2994.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_2995.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_2996.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_2997.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_2998.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_2999.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3000.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3001.JPG

Downpipe installed

http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3002.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3016.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3017.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3018.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3019.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3020.JPG

Turbine and manifold installed

http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3003.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3004.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3023.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3024.JPG
http://podi.ca/winstontemp/blitzkrieg/swain/IMG_3026.JPG

[AudiA4_20T]

Nice Winston!

[dirtybrd]

Make sure all of that grease is off before start up or it'll be there forever!

[martini]

look like you need another hose clamp on that turbo outlet!
hah

the white is strange to see under a hood.... looks cool though

[A4ringedONE8T]

Nice, I like the polished SS look better. I really doubt that can do too much but never hurts to try I guess

[dirtybrd]

That style coating has been used on v8 cars headers for years. It's good stuff, as long as no oil gets on it if it's hot, stains easily.

[eurostylzmk4]

ah very good choice . we only use swain on our turbo applications etc.. being that was all that was used on the race cars. im sure you will absolutely love it .. just try not to handle it much cause the oils will stain the coating and print it up

[ehfour]

Whoa

Looks weird!~ Love that you are trying something different

[kwan]

What did it run you for the coatings?

[zemun2]

Winston,
I like how you post "my finished build" unlike other posts "my future build" that go on for 9 months...[up][up]

[winston@podi.ca]

Make sure all of that grease is off before start up or it'll be there forever!

Thanks for the heads up. I did take the car around the block once but nothing really got hot by doing that. I heard a clunk and freaked out that something broke or fell off. Turns out it was a ratchet we forgot to take out beside the battery. [:p]

I'll take some brake cleaner and scrub off the grease before I break the engine in tomorrow.


the white is strange to see under a hood.... looks cool though

Nice, I like the polished SS look better. I really doubt that can do too much but never hurts to try I guess

Wait until you see what it is all going to look like when I'm done. [wrench]


Winston,
I like how you post "my finished build" unlike other posts "my future build" that go on for 9 months

If I had to drag this build out for 9 months I'd probably go into mad depression, part out my Avant and go buy Volvo

[mtbrider]

looks good!!

[Silence]

Sweet Winston! Who made the dp and manifold?

[Redgoat]

I thought you wanted to have a ceramic coating on the inside of the exducer that way the heat didnt sit there and heat up the turbine.. and the coating on the outside just holds it in..

Wouldnt it be better to coat the inside and outside of the manifold and turbine??

My thoughts on this is that way the parts dont get hot the heat just flows through, if it isnt coated on the inside the parts just get really hot and have no way to get the heat off of the parts.

thoughts on this?

[dirtybrd]

You want to keep heat inside the exh. not dissipate it.

[Redgoat]

If im thinking correctly gasses flow faster when they are hotter, correct?

I thought coating the inside would push the heat through faster, therefor keeping the temps of the parts (manifold, turbine housing) lower.

Wouldnt just coating the outside allow the parts to get hotter than normal.

I always thought it was advised to coat the inside and the outsides allowing the gasses to flow faster and keep the parts cooler.

I may be totally wrong on all of this, but hey.. thats why im here. To learn [;)]

[dirtybrd]

It's no different than wrapping a TP. You want to keep the heat inside for better scavenging.

[Redgoat]

So would you see any benefit from coating the inside as well?

[Silence]

No, even if it did help, you would cause a restriction in flow, which would be much worse at the speeds exhaust gases move.

[winston@podi.ca]

Sweet Winston! Who made the dp and manifold?

Blitzkrieg hand made the exhaust manifold and downpipe with integrated highflow cat.

[winston@podi.ca]

As the others have stated you coat the outside to keep the heat in so the gases stay as hot as possible.

You don't want to coat the inside of the manifold or the turbine housing as it would change its flow characteristics. And if a small piece of the coating flaked off it would cause damage to the turbine blades.

Here is the description of the White Lightning product: http://swaintech.com/store.asp?pid=10969

[Maverick]

very nice, snow white, lol. May I ask how much?

[Silence]

Blitzkrieg hand made the exhaust manifold and downpipe with integrated highflow cat.

Wow. Looks pretty sick. Can't wait to see final outcome.

[winston@podi.ca]

very nice, snow white, lol. May I ask how much?

$425 to coat all 3 parts

The 3 day shipping via UPS there and back cost almost as much. [:(]

[audimymind]

looks like it needs some lotion hahah clean tho

[Maverick]

$425 to coat all 3 parts

The 3 day shipping via UPS there and back cost almost as much. [:(]

damn man, you are crazier than i thought! level 10 is full, i think you are at level 11 as well as some other people! but anyway, that's nice!

[rxrep]

Sick as always. I went cheap route and just wrapped and did turbo blanket. Really helped on all temps and also my turbo hits full boost almost 200RPM sooner.
Your car is always making me want to start modding.... again.

[winston@podi.ca]

damn man, you are crazier than i thought! level 10 is full, i think you are at level 11 as well as some other people! but anyway, that's nice!

Well the question I had to ask myself is this:

Is 5 days of downtime worth $200?


Sick as always. I went cheap route and just wrapped and did turbo blanket. Really helped on all temps and also my turbo hits full boost almost 200RPM sooner.
Your car is always making me want to start modding.... again.

Did someone say turbo blanket? [:p]

I'm hoping the coating, turbo blanket (if required) and extra displacement will give 400-600rpm faster spool.

http://www.podi.ca/winstontemp/IMG_3031.JPG

[mtbrider]

^^^I got the same turbo blanket

[317ssayzarc]

wheres that from?

[dougyfresh]

look like you need another hose clamp on that turbo outlet!
hah



Nice catch!

[A4ringedONE8T]

I didnt get a blanket but I did get a polished heatshield, thing these make a difference?

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-ACS-002&Category_Code=BCS

[CO AVANT]

Damn Winston, sick look to that coating. Car is looking good again! Can't wait to hear the results...

[winston@podi.ca]

I didnt get a blanket but I did get a polished heatshield, thing these make a difference?

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ATP-ACS-002&Category_Code=BCS

The turbo blanket >>> than any heat shield.

The Swain Tech coating cost $50 more than the turbo blanket so it might be something you want to consider.

Otherwise you can buy one of these blankets from Alamo Motorsports at alamo_wholesale (at) yahoo (dot) com

More info on the blankets here: http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:2LgmKeDuKBkJ:www.miataturbo.net/showthread.php%3Ft%3D5990

[A4ringedONE8T]

I really got it because it covered up the hot side of the turbo so when it turns its wonderful brown color its not quite as visible. Also to match the polished compressor, I didnt really expect to gain anything from it, just wanted something different looking

[317ssayzarc]

link on which turbo blanket you guys have got?

[winston@podi.ca]

Read post #34 [rolleyes]

[317ssayzarc]

hey man, no need for the sarcasm, the link doesnt work for me...

just trying to get some info on this, id like to milk every last drop from my 2.0 build [up]

[AudiA4_20T]

Read post #34 [rolleyes]

Nice wise ass comment Winston the link doesnt work!

[317ssayzarc]

Nice wise ass comment Winston the link doesnt work!

hey clint lets all play nice... jk

he prob thought im some noob, understandably, since im not usually in the b6 forum...

just trying to fit in [=(]

[winston@podi.ca]

It should work now that I replaced the dead 404 link with the Google cached one. [:D]

Note to self to test all links prior to posting.

*ahem*

[317ssayzarc]

thank you sir [;)]

[winston@podi.ca]

And if the cached link for some reason doesn't work check these out. Same thing but costs $50 more.

http://www.boostlogic.com/parts/supra/info_supra_T4Blanket.html
http://www.titanmotorsports.com/bolotubl.html

[317ssayzarc]

its works [:D]