most hated cars!!!!! haha

[hyperlight944]

ok well i want too know when your on the street racing or just cruising and you see a acr that wants too race you which one is your most hated lol im gonna start off

1. e46 m3's (e36 m3 owners are cooler for some reason lol )
2. GTO's ( pos slow junk with a huge engine)
3. 350z's (no reason just dont like em)
4. hondas of course ( unless a bike haha )
5. srt-4's ( aka the ultimate car too the one driving it hahaha)

neways anyone else wana add on haha? [drive]

[vladbe]

STI's and evo's because everytime they see my car they want to race me. Most of the time they try so hard they end up trying to run me off the road they are so jealous for some reason?!

[S4 in_lowplaces]

350 z

[McKennaS4]

mustangs. lol

[StevenH]

ok well i want too know when your on the street racing or just cruising and you see a acr that wants too race you which one is your most hated lol

The retard factor here seems to increase more and more every day.

[hyperlight944]

wow bro way too be a dick about what someone posts ....if you dont like the post dont read or participate in it

[jcg05c]

yea your post has no relevance. More like your the retard for not being able to read the title of the post.

Ive actually been having alot of trucks try to race my lately.

[AudiSportB5S4]

i agree with sti and evo. e46 M3, i feel for them SOMEWHAT only because i had an e36 and e46, but e36 owners are far cooler. much more like our community with b5 s4s just nice ppl, for the most part at least. but, sti and evos are queen of the rice nest to me. [:D][cool][drive]

[Jung]

Def agree that b5 s4's are th coolest.. b6 owners are mostly dicks with too much money who buy the tip and never actually realize it's an s4. Evo's and Sti's are too extreme, like a hooker who wears too much makeup, they have wings off the yazoo and mostly sound like im getting attacked by a swarm of killer bees. B5 S4's are like classy, sexy women..
I think all of the b6 and e46 owners should go live on an island in the pacific and beat each other with their clubs. I HATE American muscle minus the Corvette, which i have mad respect for. We pwn everything else american in every category. esp stage III. I also dislike American Ricers like the SRT-4 and Cobalt SS. Although I do love "ricers" such as the RX7, Skyline, and Silvia because they're legendary

[volks88]

mustangs, and any riced out junk. my most hated car i see tho is the pt cruiser. god i hate those and the people who buy them[:D]

[StevenH]

wow bro way too be a dick about what someone posts ....if you dont like the post dont read or participate in it

Ok, I will post a response in line with your post.

OmgZ, roflo! I knowz the sti drivers is so stoopidz becuz they dont think Da b5 s4 is da hottest ride eva! and mustangz are dum just becuz LOL!

Starting a post with "when you're on the street racing" is never going to receive a warm response.

[S4 in_lowplaces]

Hahahaah^^

[JMTx86]

ok well i want too know when your on the street racing or just cruising and you see a acr that wants too race you which one is your most hated lol im gonna start off

1. e46 m3's (e36 m3 owners are cooler for some reason lol )
2. GTO's ( pos slow junk with a huge engine)
3. 350z's (no reason just dont like em)
4. hondas of course ( unless a bike haha )
5. srt-4's ( aka the ultimate car too the one driving it hahaha)

neways anyone else wana add on haha? [drive]

ME I
Like e36 m3's
Hate GTO's
Hate 350z (like the g35 sedan/older m45's)
LOVE hondas (LS-Vtec FTMFW)
F! SrT4s

[up]

[bigverge]

^^^There is absolutly no reason to get excited over what someone post you dont like the way they post or their "intenet lingo" just keep to yourself its just a tread on a forum man. You sound like someone insulted your mother.

E46 owners always bust chops especially a buddy of mine when he got his last year thought he was the fastest thing to hit the streets of toronto till I showed him what a real German car is.

[audiwop]

The absolute worst car to run into were I live is a 98 corolla with 4 mexican house keepers going from job to job. They drive like mad woman, I fear them all day.

[Speedymon]

Chrysler 300M....uggghhhh.

[ThirdStrike]

mustangs. lol

x10000
and i especially hate the blown ones.. then i dont usually win [:)]

[AMC]

i hate uall lol i own a mustang and i love audi's stop hating! lol

[ThirdStrike]

i hate uall lol i own a mustang and i love audi's stop hating! lol

mustang drivers seem to think their car's are invincible. i know it hurts their feelings when a vw pulls them.. but youre not like that are you? [;)]

[AMC]

lol no where near...i win some i lose some...just coming back i was racing a gti and won but i wasnt rude lol bt ive lost to vdubs (i only have a v6, modded tho)

[GQ//S4]

350z's, trucks who think their fast, rsx type s's, gti's, and bmw's. e46 m3 drivers always seem to give me decent respect and just stare at the car, never try to race....

[VonPooper]

it's not so much the actual cars that i hate...it's the drivers around here. everybody is in such a hurry and they think they're invincible with their cars\suvs...especially in LA. Not to mention that 90 percent of those drivers either don't have insurance or have no license. LA traffic FTMFL.

[Nexus1155]

Most newer BMW drivers, and some of the older non M series think their all hot shit... Mustangs do think theyre invincible... anything with a 4 inch tip out of the back if you're not turbocharged because that can ruin your power more than it helps.. and a car with a wing that struggle to go over 100mph... not like aero takes too much on a box lol

[ThirdStrike]

it's not so much the actual cars that i hate...it's the drivers around here. everybody is in such a hurry and they think they're invincible with their cars\suvs...especially in LA. Not to mention that 90 percent of those drivers either don't have insurance or have no license. LA traffic FTMFL.

and omg u fukers are coming here by the hundred everyday! our roads are becoming like CA roads. full of CA drivers [down][down][down]

[generationjdm]

STI's and evo's because everytime they see my car they want to race me. Most of the time they try so hard they end up trying to run me off the road they are so jealous for some reason?!Why would they be so jealous, last time i check you could be a b5 s4 for under 10k a super clean 1 for 16k a cheap evo is twice as much. I think a lot of people that drive b5 s4ss really think there still driving a 50k dollar car...

[ThirdStrike]

Why would they be so jealous, last time i check you could be a b5 s4 for under 10k a super clean 1 for 16k a cheap evo is twice as much. I think a lot of people that drive b5 s4ss really think there still driving a 50k dollar car...

lol that shit right there is CLASSIC^
i dont know about you guys but i DO have that mind set [:D][:D]

[JMTx86]

Why would they be so jealous, last time i check you could be a b5 s4 for under 10k a super clean 1 for 16k a cheap evo is twice as much. I think a lot of people that drive b5 s4ss really think there still driving a 50k dollar car...

I think its b/c they feel as if they got ripped off. . . I got a couple of buddies with sti's and they have so many problems when modified (not to say we don't). But i say this to them when they call my car slow, "how does it feel every time you floor it knowing you possibly might blow that POS up" 2 night later my boy put a rod through the side of his block with a vf39 and 600cc injectors ON A WEEK TUNE! So you tell me why they are jealous, 400whp on oem turbos with few problems beside basic ish. However the EVO are pimp, they are just ugly as all hell, even after they drop the wing. [:D]

[generationjdm]

I think it's clear is was refering to him driving a audi and them driving a evo or sti, i doubt he was thinking about the mods or reliability...

[JaredVL]

So much hate in this thread, spend all this energy on making your cars faster and then you wont care as much.

[StevenH]

But i say this to them when they call my car slow, "how does it feel every time you floor it knowing you possibly might blow that POS up" 2 night later my boy put a rod through the side of his block with a vf39 and 600cc injectors ON A WEEK TUNE! So you tell me why they are jealous, 400whp on oem turbos with few problems beside basic ish. [:D]

S4's are reliable? I am much more worried about parts breaking in my S4 than I ever was with my STi. If something broke in the STi it cost 1/4 of what it does to fix the audi. 400whp on OEM turbos? We're not driving Rs4's... They may be OEM, but they're not stock and it costs ~$5k to get them in the car and running properly. EVO's have hit this number on the stock turbo time after time...

[lil' is 300]

I hate everyone. Including other B5 S4's. http://www.xbox360.is/style_emoticons/default/pissed.gif

[JaredVL]

I hate everyone. Including other B5 S4's. http://www.xbox360.is/style_emoticons/default/pissed.gif

equal opportunity hater [:p]

[hodan]

Def agree that b5 s4's are th coolest.. b6 owners are mostly dicks with too much money who buy the tip and never actually realize it's an s4. Evo's and Sti's are too extreme, like a hooker who wears too much makeup, they have wings off the yazoo and mostly sound like im getting attacked by a swarm of killer bees. B5 S4's are like classy, sexy women..
I think all of the b6 and e46 owners should go live on an island in the pacific and beat each other with their clubs. I HATE American muscle minus the Corvette, which i have mad respect for. We pwn everything else american in every category. esp stage III. I also dislike American Ricers like the SRT-4 and Cobalt SS. Although I do love "ricers" such as the RX7, Skyline, and Silvia because they're legendary

Hookers can't have too much makeup.

[VonPooper]

Why would they be so jealous, last time i check you could be a b5 s4 for under 10k a super clean 1 for 16k a cheap evo is twice as much. I think a lot of people that drive b5 s4ss really think there still driving a 50k dollar car...

hmmm...beautiful,tuner-friendly, 4door luxury sedan(relatively rare)...


or a tuner-friendly tin can owned by every other person i know.....

[generationjdm]

Thats funny, the s4 might be the most unfriendly tuner car out there, while the evo is the most by far... The car cant be that rare theres 1000 on this board alone.. I bet they made more s4ss then MR evos

[JaredVL]

11000 b5 s4s to the states originally, much much less left today

[SilverSurferS4]

hmmm...beautiful,tuner-friendly, 4door luxury sedan(relatively rare)...


or a tuner-friendly tin can owned by every other person i know.....


Agree'd!!
Sure evo's and sti's can run and beat some stage 3 S4's but they are ugly... with the s4 I get a complete car in every way, all my friends with evo's and sti's wish they had our interiors... with some ko4's 400awhp is more then enough for me atleast on the street.

[generationjdm]

11000 b5 s4s to the states originally, much much less left today13,557 to be exact

[burns420]

Although i love the car, G35 drivers are mostly dicks. I just traded mine for a A4, but every meet i went to, every track day or BBQ, just couldnt stand most of the people there. a lot of them think they own an exotic.

[VonPooper]

Thats funny, the s4 might be the most unfriendly tuner car out there, while the evo is the most by far... The car cant be that rare theres 1000 on this board alone.. I bet they made more s4ss then MR evos


haha ok....i bet they made more evo mr models than imola 6spd avants...whatever.

[Go_S4]

I hate the RS4 because I can not afford one!!

[Bimmer2Audi]

I live right next to Josh Kalis, the pro skateboarder, and he owns a Modified Tuning shop less than a mile from my house.

There is a Super fast Silvia Conversion S14, Blown (TT?) 350Z, His Insane Discovery Auto E39 M5 (From Teckademics Movie), His Bro's E46 M3, a Supera TT, a couple STI's and Evo's, and a 10sec. DSM. Thats just a couple, and they're always out on the street to/from the shop. I had some work on my E36 done there.

Least favorite cars to race= Fat ass, Bald Vette Drivers who just smile at you. Also 90's Mustang/Camaros/Trans Ams/Firebird ect. With just an Exhaust and think they're hardcore with their V8...

[Silver streak]

(so what if there is a little hate hear, it gets you motivated)

Basically I hate all of the above, but #1 on my list is the FORD Lighting pick up, yes PICK UP. My last encounter was when I was minding my own business and joe six pack pulls up to my right, in the lane that is supposed to turn right, and two brian less idiots with 1 screaming blond bitch are looking over like there shit don't stink. Unfortunately I was in my work vehicle and they blew the crap out of me, even with me jumping the light. I am waiting for a rematch in my S4!

[S4-ORCE]

Hate E46 M3's one wanted to race today so I owned him :)

[Jung]

I live right next to Josh Kalis, the pro skateboarder, and he owns a Modified Tuning shop less than a mile from my house.

There is a Super fast Silvia Conversion S14, Blown (TT?) 350Z, His Insane Discovery Auto E39 M5 (From Teckademics Movie), His Bro's E46 M3, a Supera TT, a couple STI's and Evo's, and a 10sec. DSM. Thats just a couple, and they're always out on the street to/from the shop. I had some work on my E36 done there.

Least favorite cars to race= Fat ass, Bald Vette Drivers who just smile at you. Also 90's Mustang/Camaros/Trans Ams/Firebird ect. With just an Exhaust and think they're hardcore with their V8...

OMFG there are so many god damn hicks in Wisconsin that drive those P.O.S. late model firebirds and transams, and camaros. they are so crappy.. I quote from one of them talking to me at a stoplight in a 1999ish camaro (2 mid 20's white males. probably skinheads): "Hey kid... Your car is a piece of sh*t man! What in heck is a Audi? It's from them damn Europeens aint it?" Then he proceeds to rev his engine.. Pwn3d. smoked him thru 3rd gear and decided nto to waste anymore gas
on the dbag... my friends dad is one of those fat bald guys who drives a vette. It's a bad ass car with the Borla exhaust and everything, but ppl who drive them think that they are god's gift to everyone... douches

[1997gtx]

Play nice all. We all love the B5 S4, that's why we're on this forum. If you don't own a B5 S4, I think it'd be best to reserve judgement on them until you own one. And if you don't know first hand about the other cars you rag on, I think it's best you reserve judgement as well.

I don't know why a lot of people talk crap when they have no idea what they are talking about.

Play nicely all~
--Adam

[T3R Audi]

Any ricer with a spolier higher than the roof and a folgers coffee can exhaust.
Also the car i absolutly disgust is the Scion TC, and every guido who thinks there fast.

[HighDesertAudi]

To be perfectly honest I've only had one car in the last year try to race me, it was a 2.8L A4 that kept doing ricer flybys. Maybe it's because I don't try and start races.


Cars that I dislikes would be:
Newer Mustangs, GTOs, etc I respect Corvettes and older Muscle cars though.
Most Hondas/Acuras/DSM's


I like Subaru's and EVOs but some of the drivers are major tools. BMW drivers usualy have an attitude, but I like there cars so I forgive them (next car I get is going to be an E46 M3 for the summer/track, keep the S4 for winter duty)

[fastdreams]

Meh. I find redeeming qualities in just about any car. I love cars and the freedom they give me.

I dislike people that drive poorly and put me and mine at risk because they are too lazy not to suck. Typical human qualities of greed and selfishness, lack of common sense, laziness, come out all the more when people get behind the wheel.

[2ndEngineS4]

yea your post has no relevance. More like your the retard for not being able to read the title of the post.

Ive actually been having alot of trucks try to race my lately.

Dude. . .your avatar is just evil. . .I tried to look at the booty and almost had a seizure.

[BurnAll4S4]

i hate anyone who is cocky. i dont care if you drive a honda, vw, domestic, geo, s4, whatever.

[AB18]

I honestly don't know why theres so much hate. I love stis/evos/m3s, and pretty much every other nice/fast car. Im a true enthusiast at heart, you won't find me ragging on them.

[generationjdm]

I hate people who go and buy Audis or Bmws for 7k and then think there the #hit and then try to act rich or think they have this special title even knowing the average neon or civic roaming around cost twice as much...

[generationjdm]

haha ok....i bet they made more evo mr models than imola 6spd avants...whatever.Evo8 FQ400 total made 100.. 405bhp 335tq 0-60 3.5 seconds... Thats a rare car

[VonPooper]

a real car with the interior of a truck stop bathroom in arkansas.

[2ndEngineS4]

Evo8 FQ400 total made 100.. 405bhp 335tq 0-60 3.5 seconds... Thats a rear car

I'm starting to think that you are serious about this evo thing. . .stop it's scaring me.

[Vuel Egham]

I honestly don't know why theres so much hate. I love stis/evos/m3s, and pretty much every other nice/fast car. Im a true enthusiast at heart, you won't find me ragging on them.

I agree, except most Nissan's are garbage, at least inside. I drove a new Maxima recently. It was a complete POS. I was appalled by the interior for a car that costs nearly as much as an A4. Simply horrible, why would anyone buy one over a new Accord?

But, I can't imagine another car for under $20,000 that I would rather have right now than my S4. Comfortable, fast, AWD. Hard to beat that.

[S4Soul]

I hate mustangs... just because my last car was a mustang and that thing was the epitome of a ford (fixed or repaired daily). I like to pull up next to them and get my aggression out on them... show them the german engineering is superior in every way [;)]

[ThirdStrike]

a real car with the interior of a truck stop bathroom in arkansas.

rofl.
oh and the evo MR is just a evo with more boost and a stronger motor.. rare... i think not[down]

[Team Freddy]

rofl.
oh and the evo MR is just a evo with more boost and a stronger motor.. rare... i think not[down]


QFT

If you like cheap interiors and a "limited production" car then the Evo MR is for you.

http://freddyherrera.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=9127&g2_serialNumber=1

[Bimmer2Audi]

I hate racing people that always claim their car is broke after a race.

Example: "Oh doood, I would have killed you if my waterpump and throttle body wern't going bad!"

Then don't talk ish before you race if your car isn't in racing condition!


Or.....

High School Kids that say: "My dad's 5.0 would smoke you! My uncle's F430 would eat your POS Audi!, My friend's mom's boss has a ________."

We need more respect between us car enthusiasts![:(]

[volks88]

I quote from one of them talking to me at a stoplight in a 1999ish camaro (2 mid 20's white males. probably skinheads): "Hey kid... Your car is a piece of sh*t man! What in heck is a Audi? It's from them damn Europeens aint it?" doubtful on being skinheads...what u ran into was your classic backwoods dumb phucks from beaver damn wi lol

[ThirdStrike]

doubtful on being skinheads...what u ran into was your classic backwoods dumb phucks from beaver damn wi lol

lololol yeee-haaa!

[Sinister]

I really don't like Evo's. I know they can be fast, but everyone who owns one drives it off the lot and thinks it's a 1000hp killer. Not to mention the Evo scene around here is made of up jerks and idiots who upgraded from a civic to an Evo.

I know the STi's are a close comparison to the Evo, but around here the STi/WRX scene is made up of nice people who mostly just want to drive and have fun, not race everythink that has wheels.

[nvrfollow]

mustangs, and any riced out junk. my most hated car i see tho is the pt cruiser. god i hate those and the people who buy them[:D]

Exactly what i was going to say. Ever since i was a kid everytime i saw a pt cruiser i'd bite the pin out of an imaginary grenade and toss it at the cruiser, stupid childhood thing i guess, the sparkley purple woody convertible cruiser with flames...wow

[Jung]

doubtful on being skinheads...what u ran into was your classic backwoods dumb phucks from beaver damn wi lol

rofl... u know what I'm talkin about, ur from Scansin [:D].
have u ever gone hicking? its loads of fun. u just find a bunch of these "backwoods dumb phucks" sitting in their trucks, blast "Peanut Butter Jelly Time", and drive/drift around them until they decide to chase you, then u run.
this is what we do in wisconsin... I don't speak for us all. lol. Wow, looking back at what i just said makes me look likea hick.. damnit[az]

[so.cal.sparky]

mini-vans

[mikeyvuitton]

i hate B7 owners.
but on another notice to all the evo trash talk,
The Audi/Dub Community is one of the best,
You have every age, and every kind of person who just like audis.
and we just dont shit, cause we know were the best lol.

[Kievskiy]

..."this thread is worthless without pictures".....

[bdowning]

i absolutely hate srt-4's. though some can give you a freakin run. theyre usually just driven by a bunch of young, cocky scrubs looking to race anything that comes close to looking performance oriented

[A4Sam2.8]

i hate:

1) SUVs
2) Mustangs
3) Gtos
.....basically american muscle

from their waaaay outdated technology and inefficient engines to their handling comparable to a wet dog turd.. How can you get >300 hp out of a 4.6 v8? ( thanks 2005 ford mustang gt for the example )

[A4Sam2.8]

and in response to evo-bashing, i don't know much about the people who are driving them, so i wont comment on that aspect, but the car itself is pretty amazing, got a chance to drive one last spring... if you get the oppertunity, i would advise you do the same.. fast

and i know what everyone is talking about, nothing more annoying than being asked to race everytime you compliment another persons car.

can't we all just be friends? haha

[ChumbaWumba]

..."this thread is worthless without pictures".....

saw this on a detour from traffic one day...had to stop and take pics

no not this...he is not the culprit.....
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s75/ooChumbaWumbaoo/zzzz.jpg

his brother that thinks hes a skyline is.....
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s75/ooChumbaWumbaoo/zzz.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s75/ooChumbaWumbaoo/zz.jpg

neways....yeah...i hate all THAT kinda shit...

[A4Sam2.8]

sick riiiimzzz bro!

nice "sky" paint sceme too!

[rouellettea4]

Theres a lot of cars that annoy me but I cannot just go out and discriminate against any certain models or brands. If its clean and its fast, I respect. I do find Mustangs in general to be gross, but I have pulled with some extremely respectable ones, always had a soft spot for the light blue Mach 1's (color thing haha). SRT-4 I hate the styling and find them annoying but I think it's because I'm jealous that they can squeeze out such redic power for so cheap, but they don't even have power windows in the back seat so it's all good. [up]

[Got_Boost?]

some douche driving a firebird said that he would go ''home'' and get his 8 second blown 454 corvette and beat my cars ass and i noticed he had jersey plates and made it sound like he would be right back to race me he said i paid more for my piece of shit than it cost to build his vette then my girl chimed in with''yeah go get the vette cause that piece of shit firebird wouldnt do the trick anyways'' gotta love it

[lil' is 300]

some douche driving a firebird said that he would go ''home'' and get his 8 second blown 454 corvette and beat my cars ass and i noticed he had jersey plates and made it sound like he would be right back to race me he said i paid more for my piece of shit than it cost to build his vette then my girl chimed in with''yeah go get the vette cause that piece of shit firebird wouldnt do the trick anyways'' gotta love it

Did this actually happen in Rochester, NY? lmao.... rednecks rule.

[Jung]

saw this on a detour from traffic one day...had to stop and take pics

no not this...he is not the culprit.....
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s75/ooChumbaWumbaoo/zzzz.jpg

his brother that thinks hes a skyline is.....
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s75/ooChumbaWumbaoo/zzz.jpg
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s75/ooChumbaWumbaoo/zz.jpg

neways....yeah...i hate all THAT kinda shit...

WHOA nice E46... Beretta.

[saucys4]

we should have a sighting/picture thread for rice

[Jung]

^^ totally... I have a picture of a Kia Spectra on my phone, with chrome 14" rims and a fullout body kit, with, get this... a dual center exhaust.. it's amazing..I don't have a hookup to the computer from my phone, but if someone does and wants this amazing picture, pm me lol... It's great fun.

[JMTx86]

I really don't like Evo's. I know they can be fast, but everyone who owns one drives it off the lot and thinks it's a 1000hp killer. Not to mention the Evo scene around here is made of up jerks and idiots who upgraded from a civic to an Evo.

I know the STi's are a close comparison to the Evo, but around here the STi/WRX scene is made up of nice people who mostly just want to drive and have fun, not race everythink that has wheels.

Hmmm I like evo's but hate the kids who have them as first whip, the kids around me that go from civics to evo are generally running some serious numbers. And I love hondas but hate STI's

[zoldman]

G35 owners tend to be pretty obnoxious

[saucys4]

the new nissan maxima owners are so annoying. in about 40 miles of driving i had 3 different encounters with them one night.

[VonPooper]

maximas could be a good race if you're stock.

[kavalaris]

i think we are all forgetting the Prius.

[mikeyvuitton]

and the echo.
http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/rides/10436/__lg__/1147983332_car.jpg?riP6yTHBrE3D.q.a

[b6onboost]

Hybrid owners...because when asked about their car they say it like they just saved the world.

Especially Prius owners. As they spend more money on one of the ugliest cars just to make a point that they are better than other drivers.

I have nothing against the enviornment or saving gas money. I just HATE the attitude.

[Jung]

Hybrid owners...because when asked about their car they say it like they just saved the world.

Especially Prius owners. As they spend more money on one of the ugliest cars just to make a point that they are better than other drivers.

I have nothing against the enviornment or saving gas money. I just HATE the attitude.

http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/images/south%20park.jpg

[Jung]

wtf still no god damn picture.

[BurnAll4S4]

i hate b5 s4's

[kavalaris]

Hybrid owners...because when asked about their car they say it like they just saved the world.

Especially Prius owners. As they spend more money on one of the ugliest cars just to make a point that they are better than other drivers.

I have nothing against the enviornment or saving gas money. I just HATE the attitude.

except that there arent really doing that much more for the environment. would be better off getting a diesel powered car, much more economical.

[b6onboost]

^ Agreed.

Which helps prove my point that most hybrids aren't bought by people seeking ultimate economy, but rather the image of being enviornmentally conscious.

In reality its no different than Luxury car owners seeking a wealthy image, but when they act like their car makes them a better person...thats the attitude I hate.

[VonPooper]

insert mb c230 owners?