How Do you guys match up against E46 M's

[NastyNoggy]

Just wanna know how well all you basic mod guys (i.e chip intake exhaust ect...)match up against E46 M3's

[Nogaro_PhiDelt]

im not sure, but there is one down the street I can't wait to meet on the road sometime..lol

[VonPooper]

stage 2 matches up pretty darn well.

[revhards4]

it has been covered before and I'll say it again, a good pump gas chip such as GIAC or VAST plus turbo back and it's damn close. I can tell you that from a stop light the M stands no chance. From personal experience I raced an M3 with my old 00 S4 with turbo back (test pipes) and a GIAC chip and I started to pull at the end of third gear and on. BUT, this e46 M3 was not stock...exhaust for a fact and the rest of the mods unkown since the guy would not roll down his heavily tinted windows and talk to me.[:D]

[esss_pho]

i eat them for lunch...

i ran a modded m-tec m3 from a roll and a dig..same outcome he saw my awe license plate frame..

my mods are an abt chip, 710n's, and a uuc vm1 exhaust

[FrimmelNoJerz]

ive never raced one before but ive been witness to a few of them.
bart raced tonngi in his e46 m3 and they were dead even says bart.
if you know anything about barts car its puts down amazing numbers for a stage 2+ car.
he raced another one that was cammed and tuned if i remember correctly and got a few lengths on it. im pretty sure they dont stand a chance. bart if you read this add some knowledge.

[b5rs4]

i raced one on the freeway and he didn't even have a chance.but i have a stg3 so i figured he was stock, he later gave me the thumbs up, nice guy .

[2001S4CT]

well never raced one but I did race a Carrera 4 and I creeped away from him slowly it was the most exciting day of my S4's carreer

[b5rs4]

nice carrera kill

[EUROTEK//S4]

stock for stock, the m3 will kill the s4. but a moded s4 will take a m3 for sure.

[saucys4]

i pulled about a car and a half from a highway roll

[audiwop]

I'm stage 2+ and on pump gas I ran my buddy who was driving one and I pulled on him. From a dig we both agreed he wouldn't have had to much hope.

[SLC_S4]

stock for stock, the m3 will kill the s4. but a moded s4 will take a m3 for sure.

When I was stock I actually kept up pretty well with m3s, although eventually they would pull on me. So though they would end up a little bit quicker, I definitely wouldn't say that an m3 would KILL an s4 stock vs stock.

[apesco5]

I'm basically stock tiptronic with just a darintake and i raced one from a roll and i got him by a car up untill about 130 and then we stopped because he wasn't gaining at all, but i think it was smg not six speed.

[FrimmelNoJerz]

how much does smg vs 6spd matter? ive been waiting to race this kid at school(who is a giant vagina and does not surprise me at all) who has the smg and convertible option. i say that puts him at a severe disadvantage

[b5rs4]

how much does smg vs 6spd matter? ive been waiting to race this kid at school(who is a giant vagina and does not surprise me at all) who has the smg and convertible option. i say that puts him at a severe disadvantage
you will destroy him smg sucks all though bmw made it a little better after 03 but it doesn't matter still sucks and convertible haahahahhaha add at least 200pounds anyway he is still a vagina lol so he won't have the honor to see your tail lights getting smaller.

[Das General]

yeah but we are talking about justin here. His car, although stage III, somehow manages to make less power than a stock hyundai.

[Bart]

ive never raced one before but ive been witness to a few of them.
bart raced tonngi in his e46 m3 and they were dead even says bart.
if you know anything about barts car its puts down amazing numbers for a stage 2+ car.
he raced another one that was cammed and tuned if i remember correctly and got a few lengths on it. im pretty sure they dont stand a chance. bart if you read this add some knowledge.

Hey thanks frimmel. Yeah, I raced tonngi and we were dead even every single time we did a pull. Off the line though, I couldn't see him anymore (for obvious reasons, thanks quattro!). I'm actually just stage 2, so I don't have downpipes yet (just the rear cat delete, which isn't much).

I raced tonngi's friend though (Mike) in his e46 m3 with headers and full straight pipes as well as a few supporting mods and I pulled 2+ cars on him. Everytime I raced tonngi though, I was heatsoaked (errr). When I raced Mike's M3, I just turned the car on and warmed it up. I solved that problem though, with a front mount [up]

Frimmel do you remember when we were coming back from that bbq that Val set up, I raced that other kids M3 (the dark blue one)? I had about 2 lenghts on him as well.

So yeah..

stock m3 vs stock s4 = m3
modded m3 vs chipped s4 = either dead even, or really close.
my s4 vs modded m3 = [up]

[FrimmelNoJerz]

dont forget your s4 vs my s4=[down] for me

[lil' is 300]

I raced a Z4 M Coupe a couple time and beat it everytime on the strip. Those are lighter than E46 M3's, but E46 should be easier (I was stage 2...but my cars a freak). Stage 2 + should pull on E46 M3's...not much but you'll pull.

[Bart]

dont forget your s4 vs my s4=[down] for me

Yeah I didn't forget that, but after you got your new tune from EPL you pulled on me remember.

[B501S4]

we dominate

[FrimmelNoJerz]

^^well that goes without saying


Yeah I didn't forget that, but after you got your new tune from EPL you pulled on me remember.

you may have been heatsoaked though. i dont like to leave these things up to chance. well get going next time im home. expect a new torque converter to deal with.

[Bart]

That's fine, by than I'll have piggie pipes and my front mount installed :)

[Das General]

but my cars a freak

I think mine is a freak too. I can pull on my roommates evo (300wheel/wtq)

Although, today I was in a 420wheel evo and even with 3 people it was nuts. Meth ftw.

[lil' is 300]

I have a significant chunk of weight reduction so that always helps. [:)]

Status Racing Seats 90
Kosei K1-TS 17x8 50
Spare Tire Removal 50
Deka Light Battery 40
ASP Tru-Dual Exhaust 20
No Cats/Stainless DPs 20
Potenza RE-01R 4
Total 274

Need to get the vortrag cf hood/shell put on for another Vortrag 30lbs...that should be just over 300lbs lighter [:D] oh does it make a difference! (take out backseats for another 50lbs hehe)

[Bart]

I have a significant chunk of weight reduction so that always helps. [:)]

Status Racing Seats 90
Kosei K1-TS 17x8 50
Spare Tire Removal 50
Deka Light Battery 40
ASP Tru-Dual Exhaust 20
No Cats/Stainless DPs 20
Potenza RE-01R 4
Total 274

Need to get the vortrag cf hood/shell put on for another Vortrag 30lbs...that should be just over 300lbs lighter [:D] oh does it make a difference! (take out backseats for another 50lbs hehe)

You need to give me your car.

[Das General]

eh...no weight reduction for me.

Flywheel 12 lbs
Custom exhaust - couple lbs lighter

that's it. but i still rock n roll on highway pulls.

[lil' is 300]

You need to give me your car.

You're just feeling withdrawal. Bring ol' yeller up here. These winters are FUN! I do a donut video each year, you need to join in [:)]

[///M3 TO S4]

you will destroy him smg sucks all though bmw made it a little better after 03 but it doesn't matter still sucks and convertible haahahahhaha add at least 200pounds anyway he is still a vagina lol so he won't have the honor to see your tail lights getting smaller.

You're just spouting shit out of your ass and have NO idea what your'e talking about. I've owned TWO M3's, the SMG tranny have been exactly the same since 02. A stock E46 M3 would lay the biggest hurting on an stock S4, they run 12's stock with a (read GREAT) driver. As i've said before, and i'm not going to go thread hunting so don't ask there is a guy in bimmerforums who went 12.6@109 with a stock tire/weight/everything M3 on a cold day in NJ. He posted a video, and he was a vetern member. He was a professional drag racer for a living, so yes, he can drive. But shows the car has it in it. No even stage 2 S4 has a chance against an E46 M3, sorry. As much as I love these cars, and love owning one facts are facts. Some of you guys raced people who blow at driving, plain and simple.

[AB18]

A stage 2 S4 is dead even with a e46 M3. Lillis300, 300pd makes a ton a dif,great work on the weight reduction. A 3350pd S4 is a good weight.

[revhards4]

An M3 is a beautiful and fast machine...but no match for a 2+ S4. I don't care if you owned 10 M3's in the past. 350hp and 400trq from a stop light and it's game over! The driver of the M3 might think he left it in reverse![drive]

[lil' is 300]

No even stage 2 S4 has a chance against an E46 M3, sorry. As much as I love these cars, and love owning one facts are facts. Some of you guys raced people who blow at driving, plain and simple.

You are completely loaded with shit. Come on...I mean obviously a BMW fanboy at heart. I've beaten an E46 M3 before downpipes on pump gas. That makes me stage 2...and faster than a E46 M3. What now? I cheated? lol

I remember hearing about that 12.6 pass and iirc he was on slicks. But it's just a glory run, you don't see anybody repeating those results consistently. Likewise, I'd like to see what a professional drag racer can do with a Stage 2 S4 in the 1/4. 12.6-12.5 is more than possible on stock turbos.

[FrimmelNoJerz]

agreed. not to mention in your "great driver" clause youre clearly forgetting the majority of M3 drivers are image driver douche bags with no skillz. not to say that you are but most people ive met thus far sporting the M cap are...for lack of a better term awful.
<3 tonngi
no homo

[Bart]

I beat a straight pipe M3 w/ headers with just a chip. 2 car lenghts. M3's are overrated.

[Das General]

I beat a cammed, every bolt on sans f/i e36. iirc 280 wheel.

he had it coming though, but i was only chipped.


i have yet to race an e46

[VonPooper]

you will walk a stock e46 if you are a healthy stage 2.

[speedydragon]

I wonder what the pro drag racer would run on the 335i. Supposedly the 335i is making the same or more hp than the m3, with lots more torque.

[Bart]

Yea the 335i's are sick cars..

[2kblacks4]

at the drag strip tonight i talked to a guy with a e46 smg with cf hood, header, didn't quite hear what he said for exhaust, but pretty sure he had something other than oem as well as a few other thing,he said that his best was a 14.5. probably a shitty driver, but that is the time he gave me. i

i raced an e46 when i was just chipped and he just barley pulled on ever so slightly. but i was right there with him the whole time. the old guy wouldn't even make eye contact with me, much less talk.

[Aggv]

I would have thought the E46 wouldnt be as much of a problem as they are for a chipped S4. That's one of 2 cars i would consider selling my S4 for, the other is a 911.

[///M3 TO S4]

I beat a cammed, every bolt on sans f/i e36. iirc 280 wheel.

he had it coming though, but i was only chipped.


i have yet to race an e46

Too bad the MOST EVER recorded was 263whp for a cammed, full bolt-on E36 M3.....280whp is not possible in and E36....not at all. Most Cammed E36 M3's make about 240-250whp with full bolt-on's.

[b5rs4]

You're just spouting shit out of your ass and have NO idea what your'e talking about. I've owned TWO M3's, the SMG tranny have been exactly the same since 02. A stock E46 M3 would lay the biggest hurting on an stock S4, they run 12's stock with a (read GREAT) driver. As i've said before, and i'm not going to go thread hunting so don't ask there is a guy in bimmerforums who went 12.6@109 with a stock tire/weight/everything M3 on a cold day in NJ. He posted a video, and he was a vetern member. He was a professional drag racer for a living, so yes, he can drive. But shows the car has it in it. No even stage 2 S4 has a chance against an E46 M3, sorry. As much as I love these cars, and love owning one facts are facts. Some of you guys raced people who blow at driving, plain and simple.
you are right stock vs stock m3 wins by alot (b5),now m3 vs stg2 might be close but a stg3 will destroy a stock m3 , now I thought I read somewhere that smg got tweeked in 03 but if that's not true then ok.. I'm not going to look around for that article either, but again if that's true smg still sucks .

[ms4cd]

You're just spouting shit out of your ass and have NO idea what your'e talking about. I've owned TWO M3's, the SMG tranny have been exactly the same since 02. A stock E46 M3 would lay the biggest hurting on an stock S4, they run 12's stock with a (read GREAT) driver. As i've said before, and i'm not going to go thread hunting so don't ask there is a guy in bimmerforums who went 12.6@109 with a stock tire/weight/everything M3 on a cold day in NJ. He posted a video, and he was a vetern member. He was a professional drag racer for a living, so yes, he can drive. But shows the car has it in it. No even stage 2 S4 has a chance against an E46 M3, sorry. As much as I love these cars, and love owning one facts are facts. Some of you guys raced people who blow at driving, plain and simple.


I have to agree on this. My of my friends have M3's and my old S2 S4 could only pull on 100 octane map. On 91 I would loose, but then again I had a mild APR chip.

[lil' is 300]

I wonder what the pro drag racer would run on the 335i. Supposedly the 335i is making the same or more hp than the m3, with lots more torque.

I don't want to toot my own horn here, but I raced a bone stock 335i over the summer and walked him much harder than the M3. Told him afterwards once he gets a chip he'll be walking me...maybe. [:D]

[esss_pho]

yea the 335 in stock form is a slouch...it looks good on paper

i ran one on my way up to school and i pulled him...he gave me a thumbs up

[VonPooper]

the 335 could be a potential s4 replacement for me some day..i dig em.

[stockblacks4]

the 335 could be a potential s4 replacement for me some day..i dig em.

They have cought my eye. Specially this kid on campus who has atleast an exhaust. It's on temp tags, so I guess he just got it. I would love to ride in one with atleast a chip. That would be fun.
I just hate bmw interiors, they don't do it for me.

[lil' is 300]

The #1 reason I bought the B5 S4 was for AWD. I know there's a 335XI AWD but i'm not a fan of BMW's X-Drive...I was really temped...until I saw the price tag. There really isn't anything out there that can replace this bitch.

AWD, turbo, four doors, 6 cylinders and bolt on mod friendly. Any other choice? Nope. B5 S4. [:)]

[Das General]

Too bad the MOST EVER recorded was 263whp for a cammed, full bolt-on E36 M3.....280whp is not possible in and E36....not at all. Most Cammed E36 M3's make about 240-250whp with full bolt-on's.

Not really true. You don't know everyones numbers. But hey, that is what the guy said. His car was gorgeous too.

[EUROTEK//S4]

your comparing a TTV6 with a N/A I6 !?!? [rolleyes][:o]

tubo M3 .vs. TTV6 would be a fair comparison [:D]

[EUROTEK//S4]

.....the M3 will also get the FAT PIG S4 in the twisty's ..lol..

[lil' is 300]

That makes no sense. No, we're comparing a B5 S4 to a E46 M3. Our cars came from the factory with boost. That's why it's faster...is your point saying that you should add a turbo to the inline-6 to make things fairer? Then how bout we upgrade our little K03s? It'll go back and forth but that's not the point.

The point is Stage 2/+ S4 > E46 M3. Not modified to hell, single turbo aftermarket M3 [rolleyes]

[lil' is 300]

I think a turbo M3 vs. Biturbo GT28RS would be a fair comparison. Balls out vs. balls out. *fart*.

[stockblacks4]

I think a turbo M3 vs. Biturbo GT28RS would be a fair comparison. Balls out vs. balls out. *fart*.

agreed. [up]

[FrimmelNoJerz]

i agree only with the fart.

[00S4Boy]

Heres a question why the fuck is the standard for turbo e46's the gt35. That thing is small, i mean sure it's a good turbo to add some pep, but a GT4202r would be a much better monster for the e46.

[AB18]

Umm yeah for a basically track only e46 M3. The gt35r flows MORE the enough air to add more then just pep. Its one of the best ALL AROUND turbos for the car. There easy to get, reliable and make for a very good all around fast car.

[b5rs4]

I think a turbo M3 vs. Biturbo GT28RS would be a fair comparison. Balls out vs. balls out. *fart*.
would like to see that!

[B6driver]

would like to see that!

in the meanwhile... stg 3 S4 vs supercharged m3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDaqKOaorks

[Bart]

The HPF 750 turbo kit for the m3 is nice and all.... but they didn't break into the 11s.

Turbo M3 vs GT28RS S4 = LOL
Turbo M3 vs K04/RS6 S4 = S4.
Turbo M3 vs K04/RS4 S4 = Close race?

[Boris]

all this is irrelevent. I used to own an e46 m3 before I sold it for the bitch s4 i have now.. now with a chip the s4 i think is in competition with a m3..e46...its drivers game and a matter of how healthy each car is, shoot, actual m3's? they were all over the place man, they arent all created equal, it s aknown fact some are stronger than tohers stock..some 280 some 296 at wheels some less

smae with s4..

But this is irrelevent because I think its close between chiped ko3 s4 and m3..but irrelevent because who gives ahit a shit, about the ko3 s4....

This car was meant for ko4's or more..now in this form it bats the shitt out of the m3...fuk the m3 and all its pretentious american owners, theyre mostly dickheadss that circlejerkk each other on forums and know many useless facts, and are fools that think whatver they pay more for is better..
they are some of the bes t customers on earth...

the m3 is wonderful, but not most its owners in us...the s4 with ko4 or more will rape little m3, m3 with superhcarger is also a joke
makes high number at peak , but its bullshitt numbers,..unles s its some craxy sshit like a bhs stage 2 or some ridiculous 20 thousand dollar setup..lol, even then, wihtout slicks..they make no threat in 1st and second gear

[2001S4CT]

A buddy of mine has a A6 2.7T and whenever we pull its a joke how badly i beat him. Now he just got a M3 that he is picking it up on tuesday. 6speed convertible

Can i still leave him to see my cars ass?

M3 stock 6speed Convertible VS Stage 2 TIP S4

whacha think

[tonggi]

Hey thanks frimmel. Yeah, I raced tonngi and we were dead even every single time we did a pull. Off the line though, I couldn't see him anymore (for obvious reasons, thanks quattro!). I'm actually just stage 2, so I don't have downpipes yet (just the rear cat delete, which isn't much).

I raced tonngi's friend though (Mike) in his e46 m3 with headers and full straight pipes as well as a few supporting mods and I pulled 2+ cars on him. Everytime I raced tonngi though, I was heatsoaked (errr). When I raced Mike's M3, I just turned the car on and warmed it up. I solved that problem though, with a front mount [up]

Frimmel do you remember when we were coming back from that bbq that Val set up, I raced that other kids M3 (the dark blue one)? I had about 2 lenghts on him as well.

So yeah..

stock m3 vs stock s4 = m3
modded m3 vs chipped s4 = either dead even, or really close.
my s4 vs modded m3 = [up]


OH BART and the excuses,

Frimmel is there and will be my witness. We raced at night. its colder at night. and you were not heatsoaked......


Mike sucks at driving...and his headers got loose from the head which is why you killed him. But I dont care, you beat him. Im your witness.

But you cant beat me... And stop lying about being heatsoaked. thats like the excuse besides boost leak....

And of course bart will say something. BUT frimmel was there. He knows that it was cool that night. and it was not humid or even hot enough to get you heatsoaked..

plus u will be home htis weekend. : ) We need someone to video tape it. I want the person in your car so i can see myself on video. [:p] hahahaha jk

[DLSJ5]

The HPF 750 turbo kit for the m3 is nice and all.... but they didn't break into the 11s.

Turbo M3 vs GT28RS S4 = LOL
Turbo M3 vs K04/RS6 S4 = S4.
Turbo M3 vs K04/RS4 S4 = Close race?

HPF's M3 ran 11.66 at 129. A Customer car ran 11.3 at 133.

[AB18]

In terms of looks,i have to be honest, the m3 looks better then the s4 from the factory. In terms of pure performance, prolly the S4 is the better canidate. Lets be honest, theres not many cars out there that can run high 11s and have the reliabilty of ko4s and stage 3 setup.

[FrimmelNoJerz]

blablablablabla heatsoak, i suck, m3s are for gays

just do it again and get it on video. its not like you guys arent basically neighbors. and for reference it was cooler than usual out but bart did race(murder) that spanish kid with the 325(waste of fuel) and me a couple times. but we were all booking it to white castle.

[raykwok]

well stg2 beat m3's, switch out tranny's lol

[10SecS4]

The E46 M3 has to be one of the most overrated cars out there. I think it might have something to do with the way they're driven, though. To have a chance of seeing the advertised peak HP, you really gotta rev the piss out of that motor and shift just before the rev limiter. A lot of these young punks that drive them don't realize this and they don't pay attention to where they shift. It can make a huge difference.

I used to smoke these all the time in my old stage II Cactus Green S4. It wasn't even close.

I even raced an E46 M3 in my $1K Dodge Spirit a year or two ago and had him until we started to hit Autobahn-like speeds. My best trap ever in it was a 103-104. Here's the video:

http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/spirit_rt/spirit_vs_e46m3.wmv

On most of those runs, the M3 did not start pulling until 120-130.

[DLSJ5]

The E46 M3 has to be one of the most overrated cars out there. I think it might have something to do with the way they're driven, though. To have a chance of seeing the advertised peak HP, you really gotta rev the piss out of that motor and shift just before the rev limiter. A lot of these young punks that drive them don't realize this and they don't pay attention to where they shift. It can make a huge difference.

I used to smoke these all the time in my old stage II Cactus Green S4. It wasn't even close.

I even raced an E46 M3 in my $1K Dodge Spirit a year or two ago and had him until we started to hit Autobahn-like speeds. My best trap ever in it was a 103-104. Here's the video:

http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/spirit_rt/spirit_vs_e46m3.wmv

On most of those runs, the M3 did not start pulling until 120-130.

When I was stock with 3.91 gears, I pulled on 3 Stage 2+ S4's, so results may vary. [up] At Sac, I also ran a 12.89 at 108 in the LEFT LANE. [:D]

[10SecS4]

When I was stock with 3.91 gears, I pulled on 3 Stage 2+ S4's, so results may vary. [up] At Sac, I also ran a 12.89 at 108 in the LEFT LANE. [:D]You should have made some passes in the right lane... You might have been able to trap 110-112. [:D]

My best run in the Spirit was a 13.0. That was with a couple bolt ons and a blown headgasket. So yeah, the Spirit and E46 M3 are pretty close in performance. A driver's race. [:D]

http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/spirit_rt/whitey_13.0.wmv

[Jung]

how much does smg vs 6spd matter? ive been waiting to race this kid at school(who is a giant vagina and does not surprise me at all) who has the smg and convertible option. i say that puts him at a severe disadvantage

you both are giant inflamed vaginas... uhh yeah a healthy s4 at stage 2 should be able to get one. esp one with the smg.

[AMC]

You should have made some passes in the right lane... You might have been able to trap 110-112. [:D]

My best run in the Spirit was a 13.0. That was with a couple bolt ons and a blown headgasket. So yeah, the Spirit and E46 M3 are pretty close in performance. A driver's race. [:D]

http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/spirit_rt/whitey_13.0.wmv

lol what did that ugly hting have inside besides im guessing gutted?

[10SecS4]

lol what did that ugly hting have inside besides im guessing gutted?No sir, full interior. That run against the E46 M3 was actually in my red 1991 Spirit R/T. It's totally mint with all original paint and 70K original miles. It seriously looks like it's about a 2 year old car.

[DLSJ5]

You should have made some passes in the right lane... You might have been able to trap 110-112. [:D]

My best run in the Spirit was a 13.0. That was with a couple bolt ons and a blown headgasket. So yeah, the Spirit and E46 M3 are pretty close in performance. A driver's race. [:D]

http://www.titsup-racing.com/video/spirit_rt/whitey_13.0.wmv

lol, I remember those spirit vids from awhile back, that thing is quick!

[tonggi]

lol so much hate in these thread. I will admit to the following

the Audi S4 is fast. very very fast. and can be very fast with very little. so on the highway or on the quarter mile they are fast.

the M3 overrated? overrated cause people who race them think they are the fastest thing on the highway.thats not what they are even meant for. I want to resurrect this thread so people who are so narrow minded can possibly learn a thing or two.

Im not gonna deny the M3 isnt the fastest thing nor is it a slouch.

The s4 and the m3 were made for different purposes.

S4 : comfy car meant to go fast with its biturbo engine.

m3: a little harsh stock ride and meant to handle on a road course/ auto x /etc but something I would never say is "lets take it to the track" crap.

each car has its own pros and cons and when people start noticing those and giving respect where respect is deserved is when people will understand real motorsports.



on a side note, its like people comparing the 911 Turbo to a C6 Z06. the C6 is faster, handles better and is cheaper yet peopel still hate. but car for car (both meant to do almsot the same thing) Z06 wins.

[AMC]

yo tonggi this thread is OLD lol

[spinny]

tonggi is just mad cuz his B5 got wrecked and now he's driving some ratty ass M3 :)

[AudiA4_20T]

tonggi is just mad cuz his B5 got wrecked and now he's driving some ratty ass M3 :)

and hes gay

[Das General]

tonggiiiiii

[spinny]

and hes gay


Definitely loves the cawk.

He gave me a reach around when he did my suspension on my E46 M3.

[Evilevo]

M3s are slow, Even turboed ones ;)

[tonggi]

and hes gay

stop stalking me Clinticus

[tonggi]

M3s are slow, Even turboed ones ;)

yes they are slow I am not disagreeing with you. but what you dont get is in quarter mile you will kill m, highway, etc.

come to an autocross or track day and it will be a different story. so its all different. : ) but no one understands that.

[tonggi]

Definitely loves the cawk.

He gave me a reach around when he did my suspension on my E46 M3.

I'm mad I didn't get to ask you to part out some M3 parts from your car.

I would of more than willingly have done so. : )

[VonPooper]

metrosexual 3?

[tonggi]

metrosexual 3?

Ill take that as a compliment thanks[up]

[S4_NE]

A buddy of mine has a A6 2.7T and whenever we pull its a joke how badly i beat him. Now he just got a M3 that he is picking it up on tuesday. 6speed convertible

Can i still leave him to see my cars ass?

M3 stock 6speed Convertible VS Stage 2 TIP S4

whacha think

you should win out of a roll and out of a dig, I am stg 3 TIP and I have beat up m3's real easy (with bolt on on the M3's) , but I would not mind doing a run on a turbo or S/C M3


LOL i just realizee this thread is old my bad i need more coffee lol

[Audi S4 Turbo]

Just raced 2 that were both were supercharged.


Both were AA supercharged and beat one by 1 1/2 car and the other was neck and neck....

[VonPooper]

Ill take that as a compliment thanks[up]

ooh mah gawd i love metro guys

[Evilevo]

When i get my BBK. I will gladly run one on a road course.

[MacDaddy]

my bone stock S4 has no chance.

unless its snowing.

[obijohn22]

BBK will not save you from an M3 on a road course. you need to jack up the body and put a whole new chassis under the S to turn and stop like an M3. and if the M3 has had any suspension work whatsoever, it will be embarrasing. no doubt you have a much faster car though[up]

[Dowskeet]

Kinda hard to compare 2 doors vs. 4 doors dont you think?

[markmemcaj]

Too bad the MOST EVER recorded was 263whp for a cammed, full bolt-on E36 M3.....280whp is not possible in and E36....not at all. Most Cammed E36 M3's make about 240-250whp with full bolt-on's.



do you smoke crack maybe for a 3.0 but a 3.2 e36 with a euro intake manifold porsche maf,long tubes,uuc exhuast and sun cams put down 310 whp on a mustang dyno


when i was stage 2 + pulling 4.3 fats times i took a dinan stage 2 e46 that had a racing hart header and sun cams witha decked head by 2-3 car lengths revhard was there it was during woodward dream cruise

[audimeister]

http://www.audiworld.com/news/01/s4_racing/winnings4.jpg

This is what happened when maxed-out (if you can call 400hp k04 cars maxed-out) B5 S4's raced then-new maxed-out e46 m3's (and Porsche GT3's, etc.)

[sexpert]

stage 2 plus > e46 with exhaust intake and tune

[tonggi]

When i get my BBK. I will gladly run one on a road course.

sorry to burst your bubble but if u think a BBK will save u against an M3 on a track. you are sadly mistaken. you dont need a BBK for the track. just track pads and your golden


BBK will not save you from an M3 on a road course. you need to jack up the body and put a whole new chassis under the S to turn and stop like an M3. and if the M3 has had any suspension work whatsoever, it will be embarrasing. no doubt you have a much faster car though[up]

You are correct. an M3 with the perfect alignment settings and coilovers even cup kit, game over. Even E36 M3s can walk Stage 3 S4s on the track. But of course people will come here syaing that guy can't drive blah blah blah. People with S4s that track. and there arne't man are serious and mean business so im sure they know what they are doing.

But quarter mile and high way pulls. a healthy Stage 2+ S4 will always pull on an M3 (I admit the truth unlike some here. [;)] )

[VonPooper]

http://www.audiworld.com/news/01/s4_racing/winnings4.jpg

This is what happened when maxed-out (if you can call 400hp k04 cars maxed-out) B5 S4's raced then-new maxed-out e46 m3's (and Porsche GT3's, etc.)


RESPECT.

[tonggi]

RESPECT.

thanks. I dont think you have one single post in this thread that contributes to the discussion. [confused]

[tike0rz]

I walked my ex and her 6spd e46 m3 convertible with a giac chip, second gear roll to mid third.

[tonggi]

I walked my ex and her e46 m3 convertible with a chip

the convertibles weigh a lot more. and ur ex. aka girl? try again. : )

[tike0rz]

the convertibles weigh a lot more. and ur ex. aka girl? try again. : )

I wouldn't judge her if I were you...

[Spooled1.8]

We'll Find out soon. S is mine, M is brothers car. I'm older as well as wiser :)....

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a133/Spooled18/S4006.jpg

[gutray]

I did a highway pull with a buddy that has a Stage 2 Active Autowerks blower on his E46. He flat walked me from a 60 roll. For comparison im stage 2+. Earlier that day we both dynoed he hit 460 rwhp, 300 ftlbs. I was 298 awhp, 350 ftlbs.

[tike0rz]

HP > Torque on a roll...

[sexpert]

i love seeing a healthy stage 3 vs those cars

[MacDaddy]

considering 70% of the S4's weight is in the front and the entire engine is ahead of the middle of the front wheels, i'm really not surprised the M3 with its 50/50 weight distribution is faster on a track.

[VonPooper]

thanks. I dont think you have one single post in this thread that contributes to the discussion. [confused]

ok captain cool beans.

[tonggi]

ok captain cool beans.

Another useless one. [:p] keep racking up that post count bro [up]


I did a highway pull with a buddy that has a Stage 2 Active Autowerks blower on his E46. He flat walked me from a 60 roll. For comparison im stage 2+. Earlier that day we both dynoed he hit 460 rwhp, 300 ftlbs. I was 298 awhp, 350 ftlbs.

460 wheel? thts great numbers coming from AA


considering 70% of the S4's weight is in the front and the entire engine is ahead of the middle of the front wheels, i'm really not surprised the M3 with its 50/50 weight distribution is faster on a track.

70%? that much in the front? can't be? E46 m3 is not 50/50 btw i believe its like 55/45 or something close there but not perfectly 50/50

[calvinf1]

E46 M3 $uck$

[fourings06]

im 2+ and I went from a 50 mph roll on the highway with one from my town, i pulled 2 cars fairly quick and added one or two by the end. He's got full exhaust, thats all I know.

My car - giac / 007's / 2.5" downpipes with no cats / no catback (open dump) / race density motor and trans mounts.

[ThirdStrike]

i cant see a stock e46m3 beating a BPU+ b5s4 ... lol i couldnt see the one i pulled on when i was stage 2 because he was in my rear view.

[spinny]

E46 M3 $uck$


Did you sell your E46 and go B5 Calvin??

[adr3naline fix]

Hell I am a Stage 3 A4 and I pulled on a 2002 M3 with chip, cat back, and some other mod I forgot...3 times in a row. :)

[AMC]

E46 M3 $uck$

umm first of all u can say sucks its not blocked. second of all y did u bring up an old thread?

[bone_doc S4]

me vs 2 different AA Sced Stg 2 M3s, sorry for the dark vid but you get the idea...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op6gw3MRxvg&feature=channel

Also have run a buddy's VF Stg 2.5, we were even on Run 1 and he got me by .5Cl on 2nd run

[laxman851]

Kinda hard to compare 2 doors vs. 4 doors dont you think?

the B piller makes alot of 4 door cars stiffer than 2 door cars... ie: e36 m3

[laxman851]

sorry to burst your bubble but if u think a BBK will save u against an M3 on a track. you are sadly mistaken. you dont need a BBK for the track. just track pads and your golden

How do you figure brake fade is not an issue with b5 s4's?

[s4nicetry]

considering 70% of the S4's weight is in the front and the entire engine is ahead of the middle of the front wheels, i'm really not surprised the M3 with its 50/50 weight distribution is faster on a track.

It's actually only ~60%, still pretty nose heavy though.

[B5stgIII]

I raced an 05 with full exhaust, some chip, and an intake and it was pretty much a walk in the park. The m3 was making a lot of noise but I could see it in all 3 mirrors by the middle of 3rd gear. started at 35mph roll each time.

[MDB]

My brother owned a S4 and we would race quite often S4 6speed vs. E46 M3 6speed and stock to stock the M would pull the S4. We did a full stage 2 kit to the S4 and the M stayed stock, lol was not even a race. I use to have to put him back in his place with the Supra after this happened. With that being said I am in the market for a S4 to daily, i love the way the Audi drives.

[Mattgfx]

beat a e46 m3 with full exhaust and intake 6speed.. pulled hard in 3rd gear.. and 2nd started to pull pretty well.. mods in sig

[imola]

me vs 2 different AA Sced Stg 2 M3s, sorry for the dark vid but you get the idea...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op6gw3MRxvg&feature=channel

Also have run a buddy's VF Stg 2.5, we were even on Run 1 and he got me by .5Cl on 2nd run

What PSI are you running?